Board 8 > It is now considered rape to touch a girl's butthole during sex without asking

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CLEANYOURBONG 12/08/11 1:41:00 PM #101:	Or any sort of privilege in the US. WHAT DO YOU THINK PATRIARCHY LITERALLY IS i am going to make you cry if i have to, i swear to god -- BW: 0776 5899 8987 <cite>CLEANYOURBONG posted [p:527310] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> Or any sort of privilege in the US.WHAT DO YOU THINK PATRIARCHY LITERALLY ISi am going to make you cry if i have to, i swear to god -- BW: 0776 5899 8987 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExThaNemesis 12/08/11 1:41:00 PM #102:	From: CLEANYOURBONG \| #094 this is equally as unacceptable as rape you freakin nerd. this is equally as unacceptable equally unacceptable -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "I was wrong." - SmartMuffin <cite>ExThaNemesis posted [p:527311] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> From: CLEANYOURBONG \| #094this is equally as unacceptable as rape you freakin nerd.this is equally as unacceptableequally unacceptable -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg"I was wrong." - SmartMuffin </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wg64Z 12/08/11 1:43:00 PM #103:	ITT: Every character in Mad Men is a rapist and should be treated as such. <cite>wg64Z posted [p:527312] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> ITT: Every character in Mad Men is a rapist and should be treated as such. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kangolcone 12/08/11 1:43:00 PM #104:	*ExThaNemesis posted...* This never had anything to do with white privilege. Or any sort of privilege in the US. So then you admit white privilege exists? What about male privilege? If so, then how is it not a patriarchy? -- I speak the truth but I guess that's a foreign language to yall <cite>kangolcone posted [p:527313] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> ExThaNemesis posted...This never had anything to do with white privilege. Or any sort of privilege in the US.So then you admit white privilege exists?What about male privilege? If so, then how is it not a patriarchy? -- I speak the truth but I guess that's a foreign language to yall </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuarezYNWA 12/08/11 1:43:00 PM #105:	I'm totally against rape and I realize how big of a problem that it is. With that said you can prove that you didn't rape someone and the accusation alone can still ruin your life. I remember out west a teacher was accused by two students of rape. The trial went on a long time, he lost his job, was vilified by the community and after a while the girls admitted they made it up. His life was pretty much over at that point. The main problem in our society isn't that people are often falsely accused of crimes -- it's that despite that we're supposed to be "innocent until proven guilty" in our legal system the media and most people in general have a "guilty until proven innocent" mentality. -- Not changing this sig until Rundblad wins the Norris. The Sens are LIONS <cite>SuarezYNWA posted [p:527314] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> I'm totally against rape and I realize how big of a problem that it is.With that said you can prove that you didn't rape someone and the accusation alone can still ruin your life. I remember out west a teacher was accused by two students of rape. The trial went on a long time, he lost his job, was vilified by the community and after a while the girls admitted they made it up.His life was pretty much over at that point.The main problem in our society isn't that people are often falsely accused of crimes -- it's that despite that we're supposed to be "innocent until proven guilty" in our legal system the media and most people in general have a "guilty until proven innocent" mentality. -- Not changing this sig until Rundblad wins the Norris.The Sens are LIONS </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eeeevil Overlord 12/08/11 1:43:00 PM #106:	How in the world is groping someone drunkenly equivalent to rape?? Both are bad, but there are different levels of badness, y'know. Same way stabbing someone in the arm isn't the same as murdering them. Saying the former isn't as bad as the latter isn't saying the former is an acceptable thing! Jeeze ExTha, stop arguing with this guy. I took the same initial viewpoint as him (and still stand by that viewpoint) and I still think he's beneath you. -- James - Board 8's Resident Warm And Safe, Slipper-Wearing User & The Cream of Porcupine Tree Fanboyism <cite>Eeeevil Overlord posted [p:527315] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> How in the world is groping someone drunkenly equivalent to rape?? Both are bad, but there are different levels of badness, y'know. Same way stabbing someone in the arm isn't the same as murdering them. Saying the former isn't as bad as the latter isn't saying the former is an acceptable thing!Jeeze ExTha, stop arguing with this guy. I took the same initial viewpoint as him (and still stand by that viewpoint) and I still think he's beneath you. -- James - Board 8's Resident Warm And Safe, Slipper-Wearing User& The Cream of Porcupine Tree Fanboyism </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CLEANYOURBONG 12/08/11 1:45:00 PM #107:	i'm only "beneath him" because i'm a troll. i am more intellectually honest -- BW: 0776 5899 8987 <cite>CLEANYOURBONG posted [p:527316] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> i'm only "beneath him" because i'm a troll. i am more intellectually honest -- BW: 0776 5899 8987 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eeeevil Overlord 12/08/11 1:47:00 PM #108:	Not gonna lie, have no idea what you even mean by that. I wasn't aware that honesty is something that can have varying levels of intellectuality. -- James - Board 8's Resident Warm And Safe, Slipper-Wearing User & The Cream of Porcupine Tree Fanboyism <cite>Eeeevil Overlord posted [p:527317] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> Not gonna lie, have no idea what you even mean by that. I wasn't aware that honesty is something that can have varying levels of intellectuality. -- James - Board 8's Resident Warm And Safe, Slipper-Wearing User& The Cream of Porcupine Tree Fanboyism </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CLEANYOURBONG 12/08/11 1:47:00 PM #109:	equally as unacceptable != equivalent in badness. please stop being disingenuous -- BW: 0776 5899 8987 <cite>CLEANYOURBONG posted [p:527318] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> equally as unacceptable != equivalent in badness. please stop being disingenuous -- BW: 0776 5899 8987 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CLEANYOURBONG 12/08/11 1:48:00 PM #110:	google intellectual honesty in quotes then, you mongoloid. got dang -- BW: 0776 5899 8987 <cite>CLEANYOURBONG posted [p:527319] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> google intellectual honesty in quotes then, you mongoloid. got dang -- BW: 0776 5899 8987 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Theon_Greyjoy 12/08/11 1:48:00 PM #111:	*CLEANYOURBONG posted...* "sexual assault" as someone being a drunk ass and groping a girl at a party this is equally as unacceptable as rape you freakin nerd. get banned. XFD -- EndOfDiscOne http://theradishpress.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/thomyorke.jpg <cite>Theon_Greyjoy posted [p:527320] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> CLEANYOURBONG posted..."sexual assault" as someone being a drunk ass and groping a girl at a partythis is equally as unacceptable as rape you freakin nerd. get banned.XFD -- EndOfDiscOnehttp://theradishpress.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/thomyorke.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExThaNemesis 12/08/11 1:48:00 PM #112:	Yeah I'm gonna go do something else, like study for finals or practice my misogyny. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "I was wrong." - SmartMuffin <cite>ExThaNemesis posted [p:527321] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> Yeah I'm gonna go do something else, like study for finals or practice my misogyny. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg"I was wrong." - SmartMuffin </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CLEANYOURBONG 12/08/11 1:48:00 PM #113:	equally as unacceptable != equivalent in badness. please stop being disingenuous x10000000000000 please ty -- BW: 0776 5899 8987 <cite>CLEANYOURBONG posted [p:527322] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> equally as unacceptable != equivalent in badness. please stop being disingenuousx10000000000000 please ty -- BW: 0776 5899 8987 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CLEANYOURBONG 12/08/11 1:49:00 PM #114:	i am above this now, even though i haven't raised a single valid point and have largely looked like a fool this entire time! toodles yall!! -- BW: 0776 5899 8987 <cite>CLEANYOURBONG posted [p:527323] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> i am above this now, even though i haven't raised a single valid point and have largely looked like a fool this entire time! toodles yall!! -- BW: 0776 5899 8987 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuarezYNWA 12/08/11 1:52:00 PM #115:	It's funny too that you think this is equally as unacceptable as rape. It's actually something that is consistently laughed off or let go of as not a big deal in many a place. Rape is not. -- Not changing this sig until Rundblad wins the Norris. The Sens are LIONS <cite>SuarezYNWA posted [p:527324] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> It's funny too that you think this is equally as unacceptable as rape. It's actually something that is consistently laughed off or let go of as not a big deal in many a place. Rape is not. -- Not changing this sig until Rundblad wins the Norris.The Sens are LIONS </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CLEANYOURBONG 12/08/11 1:53:00 PM #116:	that's a problem with normalization due to patriarchy. please go to school and learn about sociology and anthropology, then get on my level -- BW: 0776 5899 8987 <cite>CLEANYOURBONG posted [p:527325] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> that's a problem with normalization due to patriarchy. please go to school and learn about sociology and anthropology, then get on my level -- BW: 0776 5899 8987 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kangolcone 12/08/11 1:53:00 PM #117:	*ExThaNemesis posted...* Yeah I'm gonna go do something else, like study for finals or practice my misogyny. So you engage with a troll for the better part of the day, but then run away when an honest question(s) is presented to you. Typical. Run away now little boy. Go study and think that your skin oolor and gender had nothing to do with getting you to where you are today. Note I didn't say you got where you are solely because of your gender and skin color, but that it helps with access and opportunity. -- I speak the truth but I guess that's a foreign language to yall <cite>kangolcone posted [p:527326] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> ExThaNemesis posted...Yeah I'm gonna go do something else, like study for finals or practice my misogyny.So you engage with a troll for the better part of the day, but then run away when an honest question(s) is presented to you.Typical. Run away now little boy. Go study and think that your skin oolor and gender had nothing to do with getting you to where you are today.Note I didn't say you got where you are solely because of your gender and skin color, but that it helps with access and opportunity. -- I speak the truth but I guess that's a foreign language to yall </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paperwarior 12/08/11 1:56:00 PM #118:	How is "getting accused of non-consensual fingering during consensual sex" a greater danger than "getting accused of non-consensual sex even though the sex was consensual?" As for the actual law... yes, if you're penetrating someone without their consent with a broom handle or something, I'd consider that rape. -- Now playing: Super Mario 3D Land, Final Fantasy IV: The After Years (PSP), Final Fantasy V, Saints Row the Third <cite>paperwarior posted [p:527327] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> How is "getting accused of non-consensual fingering during consensual sex" a greater danger than "getting accused of non-consensual sex even though the sex was consensual?" As for the actual law... yes, if you're penetrating someone without their consent with a broom handle or something, I'd consider that rape. -- Now playing: Super Mario 3D Land, Final Fantasy IV: The After Years (PSP), Final Fantasy V, Saints Row the Third </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metroid composite 12/08/11 1:57:00 PM #119:	*ExThaNemesis posted...* yes, feminazi is probably a term used in poor taste, but it's fitting as a descriptive term for how a lot of feminists are trying to shift all legislation and the entire moral zeitgeist as a whole drastically in their favor. Really? Name 10 such feminists, who have an anti-male stance, and who are influencing legislation directly. Surely, if there are so many such feminists, this wouldn't be a terribly difficult task.... -- Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision <cite>metroid composite posted [p:527328] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> ExThaNemesis posted...yes, feminazi is probably a term used in poor taste, but it's fitting as a descriptive term for how a lot of feminists are trying to shift all legislation and the entire moral zeitgeist as a whole drastically in their favor.Really?Name 10 such feminists, who have an anti-male stance, and who are influencing legislation directly. Surely, if there are so many such feminists, this wouldn't be a terribly difficult task.... -- Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExThaNemesis 12/08/11 1:59:00 PM #120:	Oh I missed what you said. I know white privilege exists, and never said it didn't. That was the assumption you ran in here flailing around. And to an extent, male privilege exists too, but there's no 'patriarchy' that feminists want to tear down. Not anymore, anyway. I think a bigger problem with privilege in general is American privilege. God do we feel entitled here. It's kind of sickening. and on another note, privilege is the most obnoxious word to spell. THERE SHOULD BE A D IN THERE. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "I was wrong." - SmartMuffin <cite>ExThaNemesis posted [p:527329] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> Oh I missed what you said.I know white privilege exists, and never said it didn't. That was the assumption you ran in here flailing around. And to an extent, male privilege exists too, but there's no 'patriarchy' that feminists want to tear down. Not anymore, anyway.I think a bigger problem with privilege in general is American privilege. God do we feel entitled here. It's kind of sickening.and on another note, privilege is the most obnoxious word to spell. THERE SHOULD BE A D IN THERE. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg"I was wrong." - SmartMuffin </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CLEANYOURBONG 12/08/11 2:00:00 PM #121:	Oh I missed what you said. I know white privilege exists, and to an extent so does male privilege, but there's no 'patriarchy' that feminists want to tear down. I think a bigger problem with privilege in general is American privilege. God do we feel entitled here. It's kind of sickening. awwww, baby comin back with his tail between his legs, and some milquetoast post that doesn't contain anything that could be argued with what a weak-willed BETA MALE HERP also yes, most feminists do want to tear down patriarchy you naive goon -- BW: 0776 5899 8987 <cite>CLEANYOURBONG posted [p:527330] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> Oh I missed what you said.I know white privilege exists, and to an extent so does male privilege, but there's no 'patriarchy' that feminists want to tear down.I think a bigger problem with privilege in general is American privilege. God do we feel entitled here. It's kind of sickening.awwww, baby comin back with his tail between his legs, and some milquetoast post that doesn't contain anything that could be argued withwhat a weak-willed BETA MALE HERPalso yes, most feminists do want to tear down patriarchy you naive goon -- BW: 0776 5899 8987 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExThaNemesis 12/08/11 2:00:00 PM #122:	From: metroid composite \| #120 Name 10 such feminists, who have an anti-male stance, and who are influencing legislation directly. Surely, if there are so many such feminists, this wouldn't be a terribly difficult task.... they influence it with their votes, they influence the zeitgeist with things like those insane slutwalks that completely ignore how the world works because they want everything catered to their incredibly jaded worldviews. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "I was wrong." - SmartMuffin <cite>ExThaNemesis posted [p:527331] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> From: metroid composite \| #120Name 10 such feminists, who have an anti-male stance, and who are influencing legislation directly. Surely, if there are so many such feminists, this wouldn't be a terribly difficult task....they influence it with their votes, they influence the zeitgeist with things like those insane slutwalks that completely ignore how the world works because they want everything catered to their incredibly jaded worldviews. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg"I was wrong." - SmartMuffin </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark Young Link 12/08/11 2:01:00 PM #123:	Board 8: We aren't afraid to take trolls seriously. -- You'll get what's coming to you Ulti, wait and see. - Takfloyd_mkII__ <cite>Dark Young Link posted [p:527332] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> Board 8: We aren't afraid to take trolls seriously. -- You'll get what's coming to you Ulti, wait and see. - Takfloyd_mkII__ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CLEANYOURBONG 12/08/11 2:02:00 PM #124:	using the world slut so casually just proves how suppressed your woman hating is. i would not at all be surprised if you are a virgin -- BW: 0776 5899 8987 <cite>CLEANYOURBONG posted [p:527333] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> using the world slut so casually just proves how suppressed your woman hating is. i would not at all be surprised if you are a virgin -- BW: 0776 5899 8987 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssj4supervegeta 12/08/11 2:02:00 PM #125:	*Liquid Wind posted...* foolm0ron posted... Girls can already cry rape after giving consent and you can get screwed over, it doesn't really matter what the law says anymore this, we really should start making people sign contracts at this point. "Do you have protection?" "Yes i'll just need you to sign here, here, and initial here, or im not wearing a condom" -- PSN: Vejolta Bromaciaaaaaaaaaaaa! <cite>ssj4supervegeta posted [p:527334] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> Liquid Wind posted...foolm0ron posted...Girls can already cry rape after giving consent and you can get screwed over, it doesn't really matter what the law says anymorethis, we really should start making people sign contracts at this point."Do you have protection?" "Yes i'll just need you to sign here, here, and initial here, or im not wearing a condom" -- PSN: VejoltaBromaciaaaaaaaaaaaa! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExThaNemesis 12/08/11 2:02:00 PM #126:	Yeah after determining that guy was a troll I put him on my ignore list. No point, really. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "I was wrong." - SmartMuffin <cite>ExThaNemesis posted [p:527335] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> Yeah after determining that guy was a troll I put him on my ignore list. No point, really. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg"I was wrong." - SmartMuffin </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuarezYNWA 12/08/11 2:03:00 PM #127:	*CLEANYOURBONG posted...* that's a problem with normalization due to patriarchy. please go to school and learn about sociology and anthropology, then get on my level Even if this patriarchy theory were true (I'm not saying it isn't) that doesn't change the fact that it's still not viewed as being equally unacceptable and you are therefore wrong. I could teach you a thing or two about trolling but those days are past me. -- Not changing this sig until Rundblad wins the Norris. The Sens are LIONS <cite>SuarezYNWA posted [p:527336] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> CLEANYOURBONG posted...that's a problem with normalization due to patriarchy. please go to school and learn about sociology and anthropology, then get on my levelEven if this patriarchy theory were true (I'm not saying it isn't) that doesn't change the fact that it's still not viewed as being equally unacceptable and you are therefore wrong.I could teach you a thing or two about trolling but those days are past me. -- Not changing this sig until Rundblad wins the Norris.The Sens are LIONS </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExThaNemesis 12/08/11 2:03:00 PM #128:	Yeah Curt you were way better than that guy. Why can't we get any quality trolls during contest season anymore? -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "I was wrong." - SmartMuffin <cite>ExThaNemesis posted [p:527337] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> Yeah Curt you were way better than that guy.Why can't we get any quality trolls during contest season anymore? -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg"I was wrong." - SmartMuffin </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Cobain 12/08/11 2:04:00 PM #129:	i rather like this guy and his "in your face" style -- i consider myself a very positive influence on the youths of my community http://sonicgenerationart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/slider15.jpg <cite>Sir Cobain posted [p:527338] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> i rather like this guy and his "in your face" style -- i consider myself a very positive influence on the youths of my communityhttp://sonicgenerationart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/slider15.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExThaNemesis 12/08/11 2:05:00 PM #130:	Yeah but you've got to be able to intersperse the style with semi-believable views at least. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "I was wrong." - SmartMuffin <cite>ExThaNemesis posted [p:527339] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> Yeah but you've got to be able to intersperse the style with semi-believable views at least. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg"I was wrong." - SmartMuffin </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuarezYNWA 12/08/11 2:06:00 PM #131:	*ExThaNemesis posted...* Yeah but you've got to be able to intersperse the style with semi-believable views at least. Like that time that I trapped SmartMuffin into an argument about education being a standard for intelligence and then slapped him in the face with the fact that I got accepted into a better school than he did. Good times. -- Not changing this sig until Rundblad wins the Norris. The Sens are LIONS <cite>SuarezYNWA posted [p:527340] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> ExThaNemesis posted...Yeah but you've got to be able to intersperse the style with semi-believable views at least.Like that time that I trapped SmartMuffin into an argument about education being a standard for intelligence and then slapped him in the face with the fact that I got accepted into a better school than he did.Good times. -- Not changing this sig until Rundblad wins the Norris.The Sens are LIONS </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kangolcone 12/08/11 2:06:00 PM #132:	*ExThaNemesis posted...* Oh I missed what you said. I know white privilege exists, and to an extent so does male privilege, but there's no 'patriarchy' that feminists want to tear down. I think a bigger problem with privilege in general is American privilege. God do we feel entitled here. It's kind of sickening. The country has slightly more women than men, yet they represent 17% of Congressional Representatives. 2.4% of Fortune 500 CEOs are women. This is a society that features men almost exclusively on positions of power. Either you are arguing that women are inherently inferior and don't deserve these positions or you don't understand the concept of patriarchy. -- I speak the truth but I guess that's a foreign language to yall <cite>kangolcone posted [p:527341] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> ExThaNemesis posted...Oh I missed what you said.I know white privilege exists, and to an extent so does male privilege, but there's no 'patriarchy' that feminists want to tear down.I think a bigger problem with privilege in general is American privilege. God do we feel entitled here. It's kind of sickening.The country has slightly more women than men, yet they represent 17% of Congressional Representatives. 2.4% of Fortune 500 CEOs are women.This is a society that features men almost exclusively on positions of power. Either you are arguing that women are inherently inferior and don't deserve these positions or you don't understand the concept of patriarchy. -- I speak the truth but I guess that's a foreign language to yall </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 12/08/11 2:06:00 PM #133:	It kind of boggles my mind that people who want to whine about this definition change have chosen to go at from the most bizarre, backwards way imaginable. There's an obvious flaw with it in that it specifies only penetration as rape, so technically if a girl ties you down and decides to start chomping (as in, literally biting) on your dick for a while, she assaulted you but didn't rape you, which is rather weird. The definition definitely still has the "only females can be raped" thing going on even if it no longer explicitly says so. That said, this whole "it's now rape to touch a girl" thing is bogus. This is basically the definition that's been used in practice anyway, and it still has the same approach - it's not rape if you finger a girl while you're having sex unless she's already told you not to. If you bang a girl and she tells you to stop after a while, you haven't raped her yet, not unless you keep going. Same principle applies here, this just means that doing things to a girl against her will that aren't sticking your dick in her are now officially seen as more serious than they were before. -- We clasped our hands, our hands in praise of a conquerors right to tyranny <cite>Panthera posted [p:527342] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> It kind of boggles my mind that people who want to whine about this definition change have chosen to go at from the most bizarre, backwards way imaginable. There's an obvious flaw with it in that it specifies only penetration as rape, so technically if a girl ties you down and decides to start chomping (as in, literally biting) on your dick for a while, she assaulted you but didn't rape you, which is rather weird. The definition definitely still has the "only females can be raped" thing going on even if it no longer explicitly says so. That said, this whole "it's now rape to touch a girl" thing is bogus. This is basically the definition that's been used in practice anyway, and it still has the same approach - it's not rape if you finger a girl while you're having sex unless she's already told you not to. If you bang a girl and she tells you to stop after a while, you haven't raped her yet, not unless you keep going. Same principle applies here, this just means that doing things to a girl against her will that aren't sticking your dick in her are now officially seen as more serious than they were before. -- We clasped our hands, our hands in praise of a conquerors right to tyranny </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paperwarior 12/08/11 2:06:00 PM #134:	Extha, patriarchy is literally just male privilege. It's not a massive conspiracy of guys in dark suits or something to deliberately "keep women down." And I know it's less bad than it was, and that there are some bat** feminists, but frankly if you think a large number women are out to get you and falsely accuse you of rape, you've got a persecution complex too. -- Now playing: Super Mario 3D Land, Final Fantasy IV: The After Years (PSP), Final Fantasy V, Saints Row the Third <cite>paperwarior posted [p:527343] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> Extha, patriarchy is literally just male privilege. It's not a massive conspiracy of guys in dark suits or something to deliberately "keep women down." And I know it's less bad than it was, and that there are some bat** feminists, but frankly if you think a large number women are out to get you and falsely accuse you of rape, you've got a persecution complex too. -- Now playing: Super Mario 3D Land, Final Fantasy IV: The After Years (PSP), Final Fantasy V, Saints Row the Third </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CLEANYOURBONG 12/08/11 2:08:00 PM #135:	welp, not gonna argue if i'm blocked readers, take note: extha's casual use of completely unprovoked woman shaming and blaming is extremely telling of his personality. he probably holds a deep grudge against them because he's never been intimate with one. patriarchy most certainly does exist, so does white privilege, and it shapes how we treat each other every day. just because something is the status quo doesn't make it immune from breaking it down and examining it critically. people like extha will never do this, and will remain in pitiable ignorance for life -- BW: 0776 5899 8987 <cite>CLEANYOURBONG posted [p:527344] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> welp, not gonna argue if i'm blockedreaders, take note: extha's casual use of completely unprovoked woman shaming and blaming is extremely telling of his personality. he probably holds a deep grudge against them because he's never been intimate with one. patriarchy most certainly does exist, so does white privilege, and it shapes how we treat each other every day. just because something is the status quo doesn't make it immune from breaking it down and examining it critically. people like extha will never do this, and will remain in pitiable ignorance for life -- BW: 0776 5899 8987 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paperwarior 12/08/11 2:09:00 PM #136:	Oh yeah, the definition not including whatever weirdness that is is still kind of lacking, but I'd say it's better than "Forceful carnal knowledge of a woman without her consent." -- I had a nightmare where Ulti forced me to eat brain matter. ;_;-MegaWentEvil <cite>paperwarior posted [p:527345] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> Oh yeah, the definition not including whatever weirdness that is is still kind of lacking, but I'd say it's better than "Forceful carnal knowledge of a woman without her consent." -- I had a nightmare where Ulti forced me to eat brain matter. ;_;-MegaWentEvil </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kangolcone 12/08/11 2:09:00 PM #137:	*ExThaNemesis posted...* Oh I missed and on another note, privilege is the most obnoxious word to spell. THERE SHOULD BE A D IN THERE. You are priveleged. You have white privilege. It's the difference in noun versus verb. -- I speak the truth but I guess that's a foreign language to yall <cite>kangolcone posted [p:527346] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> ExThaNemesis posted...Oh I missedand on another note, privilege is the most obnoxious word to spell. THERE SHOULD BE A D IN THERE.You are priveleged.You have white privilege.It's the difference in noun versus verb. -- I speak the truth but I guess that's a foreign language to yall </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metroid composite 12/08/11 2:09:00 PM #138:	*ExThaNemesis posted...* they influence it with their votes, they influence the zeitgeist with things like those insane slutwalks that completely ignore how the world works because they want everything catered to their incredibly jaded worldviews. Their votes? So...what, you're arguing for the democratic tyranny of the majority? FYI, men vote too. Their slutwalks? You mean these? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SlutWalk As a general rule I think the message there is fine; it shouldn't be your fault for getting raped just because you wore certain clothing. For all that sure: sometimes wearing certain clothing can get you screwed (like wearing gang symbols in gang territory) and that would be your fault if you did that. But like...showing cleavage? No, unless you think it's ok for men to get raped if they go outside shirtless. -- Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision <cite>metroid composite posted [p:527347] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> ExThaNemesis posted...they influence it with their votes, they influence the zeitgeist with things like those insane slutwalks that completely ignore how the world works because they want everything catered to their incredibly jaded worldviews.Their votes? So...what, you're arguing for the democratic tyranny of the majority? FYI, men vote too.Their slutwalks? You mean these?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SlutWalkAs a general rule I think the message there is fine; it shouldn't be your fault for getting raped just because you wore certain clothing. For all that sure: sometimes wearing certain clothing can get you screwed (like wearing gang symbols in gang territory) and that would be your fault if you did that. But like...showing cleavage? No, unless you think it's ok for men to get raped if they go outside shirtless. -- Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExThaNemesis 12/08/11 2:10:00 PM #139:	From: paperwarior \| #134 Extha, patriarchy is literally just male privilege. It's not a massive conspiracy of guys in dark suits or something to deliberately "keep women down." And I know it's less bad than it was, and that there are some bat**** feminists, but frankly if you think a large number women are out to get you and falsely accuse you of rape, you've got a persecution complex too. I won't deny that I'm a bit worried about the possibility, but I don't think it's an unreasonable worry. Hell I just sat in a novel writing workshop where several women thought it was okay to pepper spray men who approached them asking for directions. There are some really strange people out there. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "I was wrong." - SmartMuffin <cite>ExThaNemesis posted [p:527348] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> From: paperwarior \| #134Extha, patriarchy is literally just male privilege. It's not a massive conspiracy of guys in dark suits or something to deliberately "keep women down." And I know it's less bad than it was, and that there are some bat**** feminists, but frankly if you think a large number women are out to get you and falsely accuse you of rape, you've got a persecution complex too.I won't deny that I'm a bit worried about the possibility, but I don't think it's an unreasonable worry.Hell I just sat in a novel writing workshop where several women thought it was okay to pepper spray men who approached them asking for directions. There are some really strange people out there. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg"I was wrong." - SmartMuffin </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExThaNemesis 12/08/11 2:12:00 PM #140:	From: metroid composite \| #138 No, unless you think it's ok for men to get raped if they go outside shirtless. I don't think it's okay for anyone to get raped no matter what they wear. But that isn't the point. The point is that the slutwalks are blatantly ignoring the issue that whether they want to believe it or not, wearing enticing clothing while you're out by yourself is more likely to get you raped. Preaching the message that it's okay and encouraging that behavior is dangerous. But it's typical of hyper-feminists. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "I was wrong." - SmartMuffin <cite>ExThaNemesis posted [p:527349] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> From: metroid composite \| #138No, unless you think it's ok for men to get raped if they go outside shirtless.I don't think it's okay for anyone to get raped no matter what they wear. But that isn't the point. The point is that the slutwalks are blatantly ignoring the issue that whether they want to believe it or not, wearing enticing clothing while you're out by yourself is more likely to get you raped.Preaching the message that it's okay and encouraging that behavior is dangerous. But it's typical of hyper-feminists. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg"I was wrong." - SmartMuffin </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 12/08/11 2:16:00 PM #141:	From: metroid composite \| #138 For all that sure: sometimes wearing certain clothing can get you screwed (like wearing gang symbols in gang territory) and that would be your fault if you did that. But like...showing cleavage? No You'll have to explain why doing certain things that might get you in trouble means you deserve it but others don't. I mean it's all kind of irrelevant since I don't think there's a particularly large correlation between choice of clothing and being raped, but I'm pretty sure you either do or do not deserve to suffer solely for dressing a certain way (unless you only mean wearing gang symbols as a member of the gang who is fully aware of their own participation in various unsavoury activities against the other gang in question, and never anything where the person hasn't done anything directly violent themselves) -- We clasped our hands, our hands in praise of a conquerors right to tyranny <cite>Panthera posted [p:527350] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> From: metroid composite \| #138For all that sure: sometimes wearing certain clothing can get you screwed (like wearing gang symbols in gang territory) and that would be your fault if you did that. But like...showing cleavage? NoYou'll have to explain why doing certain things that might get you in trouble means you deserve it but others don't. I mean it's all kind of irrelevant since I don't think there's a particularly large correlation between choice of clothing and being raped, but I'm pretty sure you either do or do not deserve to suffer solely for dressing a certain way (unless you only mean wearing gang symbols as a member of the gang who is fully aware of their own participation in various unsavoury activities against the other gang in question, and never anything where the person hasn't done anything directly violent themselves) -- We clasped our hands, our hands in praise of a conquerors right to tyranny </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExThaNemesis 12/08/11 2:22:00 PM #142:	There's no "you have it coming," for being raped, or jumped by a gang. Nothing like that is permissible, no matter what your clothes choice. What I'm saying is that you should be cognizant of ways to lessen the chances of that happening to you, not spreading the message that INCREASING those chances is A-okay because you think the world is going to cater to you. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "I was wrong." - SmartMuffin <cite>ExThaNemesis posted [p:527351] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> There's no "you have it coming," for being raped, or jumped by a gang. Nothing like that is permissible, no matter what your clothes choice.What I'm saying is that you should be cognizant of ways to lessen the chances of that happening to you, not spreading the message that INCREASING those chances is A-okay because you think the world is going to cater to you. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg"I was wrong." - SmartMuffin </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metroid composite 12/08/11 2:24:00 PM #143:	*Panthera posted...* You'll have to explain why doing certain things that might get you in trouble means you deserve it but others don't. I mean it's all kind of irrelevant since I don't think there's a particularly large correlation between choice of clothing and being raped, but I'm pretty sure you either do or do not deserve to suffer solely for dressing a certain way (unless you only mean wearing gang symbols as a member of the gang who is fully aware of their own participation in various unsavoury activities against the other gang in question, and never anything where the person hasn't done anything directly violent themselves) Wearing provocative clothing is something a lot of women do without consequence. I'll grant you: if you go to Iran and wear provocative clothing: that's out of the ordinary, you're going to stand out, and you might end up in trouble as a result. But a police officer saying "we could reduce rape if only all the women in this city would stop wearing provocative clothing" is kind-of absurd. I think the people who are going to rape are going to rape regardless, and it doesn't matter what women around them are wearing. Are rapists slightly more likely to target provocatively-dressed women given the choice? I guess that's possible, but I think it would be a seriously false conclusion to blame the woman even in that case. What's the argument? "If only she dressed a little less slutty maybe there would be one less rape in the world." -- Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision <cite>metroid composite posted [p:527352] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> Panthera posted...You'll have to explain why doing certain things that might get you in trouble means you deserve it but others don't. I mean it's all kind of irrelevant since I don't think there's a particularly large correlation between choice of clothing and being raped, but I'm pretty sure you either do or do not deserve to suffer solely for dressing a certain way (unless you only mean wearing gang symbols as a member of the gang who is fully aware of their own participation in various unsavoury activities against the other gang in question, and never anything where the person hasn't done anything directly violent themselves)Wearing provocative clothing is something a lot of women do without consequence. I'll grant you: if you go to Iran and wear provocative clothing: that's out of the ordinary, you're going to stand out, and you might end up in trouble as a result. But a police officer saying "we could reduce rape if only all the women in this city would stop wearing provocative clothing" is kind-of absurd. I think the people who are going to rape are going to rape regardless, and it doesn't matter what women around them are wearing. Are rapists slightly more likely to target provocatively-dressed women given the choice? I guess that's possible, but I think it would be a seriously false conclusion to blame the woman even in that case. What's the argument? "If only she dressed a little less slutty maybe there would be one less rape in the world." -- Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IngmarBirdman 12/08/11 2:26:00 PM #144:	The country has slightly more women than men, yet they represent 17% of Congressional Representatives. 2.4% of Fortune 500 CEOs are women. This is a society that features men almost exclusively on positions of power. Either you are arguing that women are inherently inferior and don't deserve these positions or you don't understand the concept of patriarchy. Have you ever looked at statistical data for IQ's of men and women? The average is about the same. But women have a lower standard deviation than men - they cluster around the average moreso. There are more men who are way above average, as well as men who are way below average. So of all the really intelligent people and really stupid people, most of them are men. The people that occupy these positions of power number less than 1% of U.S. citizens. For the sake of example say that really intelligent people earned these positions, it makes sense that most of them are men. Saying that it should be 50-50 or something and that more women should be there is the same thing as saying we need to have more women in prison and on death row. Men are just high-risk, high-reward. -- "Ovelia ... SPOILERS IN THE KEYWORDS WOOPS" - Vormav <cite>IngmarBirdman posted [p:527353] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> The country has slightly more women than men, yet they represent 17% of Congressional Representatives. 2.4% of Fortune 500 CEOs are women.This is a society that features men almost exclusively on positions of power. Either you are arguing that women are inherently inferior and don't deserve these positions or you don't understand the concept of patriarchy.Have you ever looked at statistical data for IQ's of men and women? The average is about the same. But women have a lower standard deviation than men - they cluster around the average moreso. There are more men who are way above average, as well as men who are way below average. So of all the really intelligent people and really stupid people, most of them are men.The people that occupy these positions of power number less than 1% of U.S. citizens. For the sake of example say that really intelligent people earned these positions, it makes sense that most of them are men. Saying that it should be 50-50 or something and that more women should be there is the same thing as saying we need to have more women in prison and on death row.Men are just high-risk, high-reward. -- "Ovelia ... SPOILERS IN THE KEYWORDS WOOPS"- Vormav </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 12/08/11 2:32:00 PM #145:	From: metroid composite \| #143 Wearing provocative clothing is something a lot of women do without consequence. I'll grant you: if you go to Iran and wear provocative clothing: that's out of the ordinary, you're going to stand out, and you might end up in trouble as a result. But a police officer saying "we could reduce rape if only all the women in this city would stop wearing provocative clothing" is kind-of absurd. I think the people who are going to rape are going to rape regardless, and it doesn't matter what women around them are wearing. Are rapists slightly more likely to target provocatively-dressed women given the choice? I guess that's possible, but I think it would be a seriously false conclusion to blame the woman even in that case. What's the argument? "If only she dressed a little less slutty maybe there would be one less rape in the world." I'm not entirely sure what you're arguing now, considering in the post you replied to I specifically said that I don't think that clothing choice actually has a statistically noteworthy impact on the frequency of rape. -- Mistake you're making - overlooking the fact that we might not want to be saved. <cite>Panthera posted [p:527354] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> From: metroid composite \| #143Wearing provocative clothing is something a lot of women do without consequence. I'll grant you: if you go to Iran and wear provocative clothing: that's out of the ordinary, you're going to stand out, and you might end up in trouble as a result. But a police officer saying "we could reduce rape if only all the women in this city would stop wearing provocative clothing" is kind-of absurd. I think the people who are going to rape are going to rape regardless, and it doesn't matter what women around them are wearing. Are rapists slightly more likely to target provocatively-dressed women given the choice? I guess that's possible, but I think it would be a seriously false conclusion to blame the woman even in that case. What's the argument? "If only she dressed a little less slutty maybe there would be one less rape in the world."I'm not entirely sure what you're arguing now, considering in the post you replied to I specifically said that I don't think that clothing choice actually has a statistically noteworthy impact on the frequency of rape. -- Mistake you're making - overlooking the fact that we might not want to be saved. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kangolcone 12/08/11 2:37:00 PM #146:	*ExThaNemesis posted...* From: metroid composite \| #138 No, unless you think it's ok for men to get raped if they go outside shirtless. I don't think it's okay for anyone to get raped no matter what they wear. But that isn't the point. The point is that the slutwalks are blatantly ignoring the issue that whether they want to believe it or not, wearing enticing clothing while you're out by yourself is more likely to get you raped. Preaching the message that it's okay and encouraging that behavior is dangerous. But it's typical of hyper-feminists. Except Muslim women get raped while wearing a burka that shows only their eyes. Men who rape aren't thinking about the clothing. Because rape while sexual in nature is about power and dominance, not sexual gratification. -- I speak the truth but I guess that's a foreign language to yall <cite>kangolcone posted [p:527355] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> ExThaNemesis posted...From: metroid composite \| #138No, unless you think it's ok for men to get raped if they go outside shirtless.I don't think it's okay for anyone to get raped no matter what they wear. But that isn't the point. The point is that the slutwalks are blatantly ignoring the issue that whether they want to believe it or not, wearing enticing clothing while you're out by yourself is more likely to get you raped.Preaching the message that it's okay and encouraging that behavior is dangerous. But it's typical of hyper-feminists.Except Muslim women get raped while wearing a burka that shows only their eyes.Men who rape aren't thinking about the clothing. Because rape while sexual in nature is about power and dominance, not sexual gratification. -- I speak the truth but I guess that's a foreign language to yall </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mershaaay 12/08/11 2:43:00 PM #147:	Man this is like my third 150+ post debate topic in like 5 days -- SephirothG, channeling awesomeness from Mershiness. The Resurrection <cite>Mershaaay posted [p:527356] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> Man this is like my third 150+ post debate topic in like 5 days -- SephirothG, channeling awesomeness from Mershiness.The Resurrection </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metroid composite 12/08/11 2:43:00 PM #148:	*IngmarBirdman posted...* Have you ever looked at statistical data for IQ's of men and women? The average is about the same. But women have a lower standard deviation than men - they cluster around the average moreso. ...Have YOU looked at statistical data for IQ for men and women? They differ a lot depending on which statistical study you're referring to. Just as often the standard deviation is equal depending on study. There are also cases where one gender or the other scores higher (and it's inconsistent which one scores higher). You're probably thinking of Jensen who didn't cite his sources, and at any rate Jensen cites a pretty minor difference (a standard deviation difference of 13 rather than 14). -- Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision <cite>metroid composite posted [p:527357] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> IngmarBirdman posted...Have you ever looked at statistical data for IQ's of men and women? The average is about the same. But women have a lower standard deviation than men - they cluster around the average moreso....Have YOU looked at statistical data for IQ for men and women? They differ a lot depending on which statistical study you're referring to. Just as often the standard deviation is equal depending on study. There are also cases where one gender or the other scores higher (and it's inconsistent which one scores higher).You're probably thinking of Jensen who didn't cite his sources, and at any rate Jensen cites a pretty minor difference (a standard deviation difference of 13 rather than 14). -- Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
insanity domain 12/08/11 2:45:00 PM #149:	Provocative clothing does give a rapist an incentive to target his (let's face it, most rapists are male) victim. If you think it doesn't, then you probably think it's not a bad idea hanging around a bad neighborhood wearing really expensive clothing and with an iPod or expensive watch showing, since you're gonna get robbed by a mugger regardless if you conceal your belongings or not. -- Visit GameSpot for more Jesus, including 24 screenshots. <cite>insanity domain posted [p:527358] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> Provocative clothing does give a rapist an incentive to target his (let's face it, most rapists are male) victim. If you think it doesn't, then you probably think it's not a bad idea hanging around a bad neighborhood wearing really expensive clothing and with an iPod or expensive watch showing, since you're gonna get robbed by a mugger regardless if you conceal your belongings or not. -- Visit GameSpot for more Jesus, including 24 screenshots. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kangolcone 12/08/11 2:46:00 PM #150:	*IngmarBirdman posted...* Have you ever looked at statistical data for IQ's of men and women? The average is about the same. But women have a lower standard deviation than men - they cluster around the average moreso. There are more men who are way above average, as well as men who are way below average. So of all the really intelligent people and really stupid people, most of them are men. The people that occupy these positions of power number less than 1% of U.S. citizens. For the sake of example say that really intelligent people earned these positions, it makes sense that most of them are men. Saying that it should be 50-50 or something and that more women should be there is the same thing as saying we need to have more women in prison and on death row. Men are just high-risk, high-reward. First, I would like to see these numbers. However, it's laughable if you think privilege, access, and opportunity don't play into that. Do you really think that men's brains are so inherently different in construction to justify this? Or as I have argued that this only further validates the existing patriarchy? Secondly, it would be nice if you could point out where I advoacted 50-50. But you can't honestly think that only 14 of the 500 most profitable companies are run by women because of standard deviations instead of thousands of years of reinforcement of male over female dominance. -- I speak the truth but I guess that's a foreign language to yall <cite>kangolcone posted [p:527359] in It is now ... [t:61286921]...</cite> <quote> IngmarBirdman posted...Have you ever looked at statistical data for IQ's of men and women? The average is about the same. But women have a lower standard deviation than men - they cluster around the average moreso. There are more men who are way above average, as well as men who are way below average. So of all the really intelligent people and really stupid people, most of them are men.The people that occupy these positions of power number less than 1% of U.S. citizens. For the sake of example say that really intelligent people earned these positions, it makes sense that most of them are men. Saying that it should be 50-50 or something and that more women should be there is the same thing as saying we need to have more women in prison and on death row.Men are just high-risk, high-reward.First, I would like to see these numbers. However, it's laughable if you think privilege, access, and opportunity don't play into that. Do you really think that men's brains are so inherently different in construction to justify this? Or as I have argued that this only further validates the existing patriarchy?Secondly, it would be nice if you could point out where I advoacted 50-50. But you can't honestly think that only 14 of the 500 most profitable companies are run by women because of standard deviations instead of thousands of years of reinforcement of male over female dominance. -- I speak the truth but I guess that's a foreign language to yall </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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