Board 8 > Calling things cheap is bulls***.

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TheKoolAidShoto
09/30/11 2:20:00 PM
#51:


Also, apparently, if you b*** enough about things being cheap, it'll be banned. MetaKnight just got banned in Brawl

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=301032

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TheKoolAidShoto
09/30/11 2:26:00 PM
#52:


Holy s*** there's a ledge grab count in the rules.

TC's FRIEND MIGHT BE ON TO SOMETHING

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LeonhartFour
09/30/11 2:28:00 PM
#53:


Removing the meta from metagame I see

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WazzupGenius00
09/30/11 2:31:00 PM
#54:


There is a 50 Ledge Grab Limit for all other characters. If a game goes to time and one player goes over the Ledge Grab Limit for their character, they will automatically lose the game.

the f*** is this s***, this sounds like something that would be in that one fake(?) ruleset for some Smash Club, you know, the one where you had to attend like three times without playing first and if someone got a smash ball you literally had to set down your controller and let them kill you with the final smash

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blindhobo13
09/30/11 2:34:00 PM
#55:


Meta Knight banning and Ledge Grab Limit to prevent planking/stalling ACTUALLY IN THE "OFFICIAL" RULES should seriously tell people that Brawl is a bad competitive game and should not be played competitively.

**** that game.
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WazzupGenius00
09/30/11 2:43:00 PM
#56:


Is Ledge Grab one of those stats you can see at the end of the match, or do they have to have someone there literally counting it for each player

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metroid composite
09/30/11 2:45:00 PM
#57:


TheKoolAidShoto posted...
From: metroid composite | #048
But you've played with men who enjoy losing?

People who can "man up" to a loss, understand the other guy was better, and learn it from it


I see you only read the first sentence of my post.

(I kind-of consider what you described as the default, or at least most people whom I've played competitive games with fall under this category. Not that I haven't played with those whiners who makes up excuses for losing, but in my experience such people are usually young and male).

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blindhobo13
09/30/11 2:48:00 PM
#58:


From: WazzupGenius00 | #056
Is Ledge Grab one of those stats you can see at the end of the match, or do they have to have someone there literally counting it for each player


I would be shocked if there's a counter for that since I'm sure the developers didn't consider Ledge Grabbing to be a "technique" of consequence.
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TheKoolAidShoto
09/30/11 2:53:00 PM
#59:


From: metroid composite | #057
I see you only read the first sentence of my post.


That is how I treat all of your posts, to be fair

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metroid composite
09/30/11 3:10:00 PM
#60:


TheKoolAidShoto posted...
That is how I treat all of your posts, to be fair

Oh, well, I suppose I should actually put some content into my introductory sentences instead of just the usual useless fluff.

Also, I should totally put KoolAid insults in my later sentences, because you'll never read it, mwahaha... :P

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paperwarior
09/30/11 3:26:00 PM
#61:


Do people actually abuse ledge invincibility frames so much that it needs to be limited by law?

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SpeedYoshi
09/30/11 3:33:00 PM
#62:


From: Dark Young Link | #022
There's your cheapness right there considering Kirby is broken in the first Smash Brothers. :P


kirby isn't broken, he's just good

PIKACHU is broken

Fox is better than Kirby iirc

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LeonhartFour
09/30/11 3:35:00 PM
#63:


Kirby, Pikachu, and Ness were considered the best in the original Smash, I thought.

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blindhobo13
09/30/11 3:37:00 PM
#64:


From: LeonhartFour | #063
Kirby, Pikachu, and Ness were considered the best in the original Smash, I thought.


Pikachu/Fox
Kirby/Falcon
Everyone else
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Azp2k32
09/30/11 3:43:00 PM
#65:


My old friends used to be b****es about that. Every character they played in SSBM was specifically to counter my Jigglypuff and... I don't even know what they said was cheap. Probably rest. I mostly remember them banning breaking eggs in Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg and destroying their Stars in Kirby Air Ride's City Trial. Apparently, both of those were extremely cheap tactics. Ones they were also awful at using.

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OmarsComin
09/30/11 4:12:00 PM
#66:


skilless cheesing noob

I see this way too much in RTS games. I've been called a noob several times in the last month in War 3, for such things as:

-Staying at tier 1 and pumping huntresses
-Teching to tier 3 and getting chimaeras
-having a level 6 demon hunter

I need to have some witty retort already copied and ready to paste because they always leave right after complaining, there's no time to respond!

I find complaints like these especially illegitimate because it is super easy to scout at any time in WC3. Unless they're hiding buildings around the map, I guess.
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Biolizard28
09/30/11 4:29:00 PM
#67:


Best comeback for anything

"Skilless cheesing noob"
"Are you coming on to me?"

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WazzupGenius00
09/30/11 6:17:00 PM
#68:


here's that Brawl Club I was talking about external image

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BoshStrikesBack
09/30/11 6:39:00 PM
#69:


You forgot Metaknight.


No.


I would be very, very interested in hearing a defense for Metaknight. Seriously, how doesn't he make the game overly-centralized? His best matchup is against himself.

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Some_Character
10/01/11 8:52:00 AM
#72:


UltimaterializerX posted...
OmarsComin posted...
skilless cheesing noob

I see this way too much in RTS games. I've been called a noob several times in the last month in War 3, for such things as:

-Staying at tier 1 and pumping huntresses
-Teching to tier 3 and getting chimaeras
-having a level 6 demon hunter

I need to have some witty retort already copied and ready to paste because they always leave right after complaining, there's no time to respond!

I find complaints like these especially illegitimate because it is super easy to scout at any time in WC3. Unless they're hiding buildings around the map, I guess.

If you play night elf and nothing else, you cheese end of story. Their icons should be varying grades of cheese.

And yes I'm aware they have massive weaknesses against Orc and Human.


Then do you just play Undead?

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BoshStrikesBack
10/01/11 9:19:00 AM
#73:


MK has a lot of 45-55 matchups, though I will agree he falls in the Blademaster category. The entire game became about him and no one else.

Really now? Thing's must have changed since I stopped paying attention to the community! Who's a 45-55 matchup, exactly?

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Swifticuffs
10/01/11 9:21:00 AM
#74:


don't worry my cousins would constantly cry if I ever edge guarded them

what am I supposed to do, spike them and possibly die because it's an improbable way out there? lol whiners

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Swifticuffs
10/01/11 9:21:00 AM
#75:


From: BoshStrikesBack | Posted: 10/1/2011 12:19:12 PM | #073
MK has a lot of 45-55 matchups, though I will agree he falls in the Blademaster category. The entire game became about him and no one else.

Really now? Thing's must have changed since I stopped paying attention to the community! Who's a 45-55 matchup, exactly?


Snake probably is one

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Accel ACE
10/01/11 9:44:00 AM
#76:


GTM posted...
i once had someone unplug my controller while recovering

told me it wasnt cheap and I had to "work around it"

never played smash with him ever again

smash, ruining friendships since 2001


...Doesn't the game pause when a controller is unplugged? Or did the old games not do that?

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WazzupGenius00
10/01/11 9:53:00 AM
#77:


Nah, old games don't do that.

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OmarsComin
10/02/11 4:17:00 PM
#78:


If you play night elf and nothing else, you cheese end of story. Their icons should be varying grades of cheese.

I play mostly Night Elf on ladder, and occasionally Orc. Shoe and I play custom games on most nights and we both play random there.

I don't see NE as a particularly cheesy race, though - against everyone but human they have only one viable hero, and there's solid counters to everything they do. If you want to complain about cheese in Warcraft III there's a much stronger case for orc with the Blademaster, and human with their bull**** "tower up and expand everywhere" strategy.

No one complains about UD of course because LOL UD. They've basically patched that race out of the game.
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