Board 8 > transience presents: the 50 most essential 2d video games, part 2 - the top 3

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neonreap
09/16/11 8:33:00 PM
#251:


Kotetsu534 posted...
Other than Crash 1-3 and the R&C games, there aren't any non-Mario 3D platformers that there's even a tenuous argument for (unless I'm forgetting something, which I might be!).

so then why is Mario 64 not argued down?

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transience
09/17/11 3:58:00 AM
#252:


Mario 64 proved 3d platforming could really work. it is still seen as a great game by a lot of people 15 years later. it was proof of concept of the N64. that seems to be an easy pick.

I put Ocarina of Time #1 even though it isn't directly influencing a genre or games, and I don't see much argument there.

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LinkMarioSamus
09/17/11 4:23:00 AM
#253:


Dude no, Mario Galaxy should be #1. Or at least in the top 5.

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Kotetsu534
09/17/11 4:25:00 AM
#254:


I think SM64 is the most overrated game of all time, but it is one of the most essential 3D games (by any reasonable definition of the word). Not even I would deny that!

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Lopen
09/17/11 5:59:00 AM
#255:


Well I don't really think Ocarina deserves number one or close to it, personally.

I'm just not seeing what it does that's so important that you need to play it... but that's largely because I dislike the game I imagine.

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transcience
09/17/11 6:03:00 AM
#256:


it just kind of stands over every video game. it is the 10/10 by which all others strive for. I guess I'd compare it to Mario 3 as far as the ultimate 3d game goes.

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Liquid Wind
09/17/11 6:07:00 AM
#257:


LinkMarioSamus posted...
Liquid Wind posted...
Fixed, although none of the four are really all that "essential".


no.

OoT/WW/TP are one essential game, you just have to pick a version. MM stands alone as a 3D zelda title as an essential game that nintendo DIDN'T clone into oblivion
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LinkMarioSamus
09/17/11 6:23:00 AM
#258:


Kotetsu534 posted...
I think SM64 is the most overrated game of all time, but it is one of the most essential 3D games (by any reasonable definition of the word). Not even I would deny that!

Oddly enough, I am somehow a huge fan of Mario 64 in spite of me not being a huge fan of Ocarina of Time or Majora's Mask. The most likely answer I can think of is that Mario 64 is less like other games in its series than Ocarina is.

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Liquid Wind
09/17/11 6:25:00 AM
#259:


mario galaxy is pretty much SM64 in space, it's just less offensive when mario does this than zelda because there is zero emphasis on story in mario, it's just a fun pick up and play platformer
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ZFS
09/17/11 6:34:00 AM
#260:


Er, I wouldn't say that. Mario Galaxy is more like a 2D Mario game in 3D; Mario 64 is like an adventure game with platforming elements.

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