Board 8 > You know what I never got? (Harry Potter spoilers)

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SpeedYoshi 07/11/11 5:01:00 PM #1:	Why Harry could only see the horses that pull the hogwarts carriages after Cedric's death. Like.. he watched his mom die.... -- Don't worry guys, I have all the clubs <cite>SpeedYoshi posted [p:79770] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> Why Harry could only see the horses that pull the hogwarts carriages after Cedric's death. Like.. he watched his mom die.... -- Don't worry guys, I have all the clubs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 07/11/11 5:02:00 PM #2:	It's explained as needing to "understand" seeing death or something like that. -- Mistake you're making - overlooking the fact that we might not want to be saved. <cite>Panthera posted [p:79771] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> It's explained as needing to "understand" seeing death or something like that. -- Mistake you're making - overlooking the fact that we might not want to be saved. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BoshStrikesBack 07/11/11 5:03:00 PM #3:	you know what i didn't get why the epilogue was so unreadable -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBpfwpOPXNc&NR=1&feature=fvwp I watch Planet Chasers Starlight Excellent all day, every day. <cite>BoshStrikesBack posted [p:79772] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> you know what i didn't getwhy the epilogue was so unreadable -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBpfwpOPXNc&NR=1&feature=fvwpI watch Planet Chasers Starlight Excellent all day, every day. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 07/11/11 5:07:00 PM #4:	He never even remembered his parents' death growing up; he willingly accepted the Dursleys' explanation of how they died. Inconsistency maybe, but at least there's an out. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://i.neoseeker.com/n/2/nintendo_quality_seal.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:79773] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> He never even remembered his parents' death growing up; he willingly accepted the Dursleys' explanation of how they died.Inconsistency maybe, but at least there's an out. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://i.neoseeker.com/n/2/nintendo_quality_seal.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpeedYoshi 07/11/11 5:08:00 PM #5:	What about the flash backs? -- Don't worry guys, I have all the clubs <cite>SpeedYoshi posted [p:79774] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> What about the flash backs? -- Don't worry guys, I have all the clubs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpeedYoshi 07/11/11 5:09:00 PM #6:	Also, does that mean someone who deludes themself into not remembering someone died won't see them either? -- Don't worry guys, I have all the clubs <cite>SpeedYoshi posted [p:79775] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> Also, does that mean someone who deludes themself into not remembering someone died won't see them either? -- Don't worry guys, I have all the clubs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 07/11/11 5:10:00 PM #7:	Sure why not. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://i.neoseeker.com/n/2/nintendo_quality_seal.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:79776] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> Sure why not. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://i.neoseeker.com/n/2/nintendo_quality_seal.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Diet Water 07/11/11 5:11:00 PM #8:	NEWSFLASH: Harry Potter wasn't very well written -- PSN Sfandi http://oi53.tinypic.com/2qd0ppj.jpg <cite>Diet Water posted [p:79777] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> NEWSFLASH: Harry Potter wasn't very well written -- PSN Sfandihttp://oi53.tinypic.com/2qd0ppj.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SBell0105 07/11/11 5:13:00 PM #9:	How about all those people that had seen no death and then walked straight into the front of the Horseless Carriage? Did they crash into an invisible horsey or did they walk right through it because it doesn't exist to them? -- (\__/) (='.'=] <You must have one dusty computer <cite>SBell0105 posted [p:79778] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> How about all those people that had seen no death and then walked straight into the front of the Horseless Carriage?Did they crash into an invisible horsey or did they walk right through it because it doesn't exist to them? -- (\__/)(='.'=] <You must have one dusty computer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Some_Character 07/11/11 5:15:00 PM #10:	The horses exist either way. People can ride them even if they can't see them. -- SomeC - sheer explosives since meeting that crazy hobo. BlAcK TuRtLe grabbed the Guru victory, slow but steady. <cite>Some_Character posted [p:79779] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> The horses exist either way. People can ride them even if they can't see them. -- SomeC - sheer explosives since meeting that crazy hobo.BlAcK TuRtLe grabbed the Guru victory, slow but steady. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grand Kirby 07/11/11 5:16:00 PM #11:	*SpeedYoshi posted...* Why Harry could only see the horses that pull the hogwarts carriages after Cedric's death. Like.. he watched his mom die.... He never saw his mom die. He was in the crib at the time. He also never saw actually Quirrel die except in the movies. That's their own plothole to deal with. -- Okay, I rolled a 14. What's that mean? Hsu That you're a cheater. This is a 12-sided die. Chan <cite>Grand Kirby posted [p:79780] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> SpeedYoshi posted...Why Harry could only see the horses that pull the hogwarts carriages after Cedric's death. Like.. he watched his mom die....He never saw his mom die. He was in the crib at the time.He also never saw actually Quirrel die except in the movies. That's their own plothole to deal with. -- Okay, I rolled a 14. What's that mean? HsuThat you're a cheater. This is a 12-sided die. Chan </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 07/11/11 5:16:00 PM #12:	you know what i didn't get why the epilogue was so unreadable J.K. Rowling wrote it really early in the process. Apparently she really wanted to use it, but it would've been so much better if she had just rewritten it entirely while writing Deathly Hallows. -- Full rap metal jacket ~ Method Man <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:79781] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> you know what i didn't getwhy the epilogue was so unreadableJ.K. Rowling wrote it really early in the process. Apparently she really wanted to use it, but it would've been so much better if she had just rewritten it entirely while writing Deathly Hallows. -- Full rap metal jacket ~ Method Man </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 07/11/11 5:18:00 PM #13:	NEWSFLASH: Harry Potter wasn't very well written I'd argue against this. The universe may not be very well-constructed, especially since humor often takes priority over logic when it comes to explaining why things are the way they are, but I think the actual stories themselves are fine. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://i.neoseeker.com/n/2/nintendo_quality_seal.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:79782] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> NEWSFLASH: Harry Potter wasn't very well writtenI'd argue against this. The universe may not be very well-constructed, especially since humor often takes priority over logic when it comes to explaining why things are the way they are, but I think the actual stories themselves are fine. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://i.neoseeker.com/n/2/nintendo_quality_seal.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 07/11/11 5:21:00 PM #14:	As for potholes, remember when Petunia said she remembered how Lily would turn tea cups into rats? Isn't using magic illegal when you're in the Muggle world? -- Full rap metal jacket ~ Method Man <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:79783] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> As for potholes, remember when Petunia said she remembered how Lily would turn tea cups into rats? Isn't using magic illegal when you're in the Muggle world? -- Full rap metal jacket ~ Method Man </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SBell0105 07/11/11 5:22:00 PM #15:	i hate potholes. -- (\__/) (='.'=] <You must have one dusty computer <cite>SBell0105 posted [p:79784] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> i hate potholes. -- (\__/)(='.'=] <You must have one dusty computer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Some_Character 07/11/11 5:22:00 PM #16:	It's stops being illegal after you turn 17. -- SomeC - sheer explosives since meeting that crazy hobo. BlAcK TuRtLe grabbed the Guru victory, slow but steady. <cite>Some_Character posted [p:79785] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> It's stops being illegal after you turn 17. -- SomeC - sheer explosives since meeting that crazy hobo.BlAcK TuRtLe grabbed the Guru victory, slow but steady. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Azp2k32 07/11/11 5:24:00 PM #17:	*Mr Lasastryke posted...* As for potholes, remember when Petunia said she remembered how Lily would turn tea cups into rats? Isn't using magic illegal when you're in the Muggle world? I don't believe using magic was illegal unless you were under 17. -- http://www.nbc.com/parks-and-recreation/exclusives/ron-dancing-animated.gif <cite>Azp2k32 posted [p:79786] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> Mr Lasastryke posted...As for potholes, remember when Petunia said she remembered how Lily would turn tea cups into rats? Isn't using magic illegal when you're in the Muggle world?I don't believe using magic was illegal unless you were under 17. -- http://www.nbc.com/parks-and-recreation/exclusives/ron-dancing-animated.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 07/11/11 5:25:00 PM #18:	Ah. Thanks, I never got that. -- Full rap metal jacket ~ Method Man <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:79787] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> Ah. Thanks, I never got that. -- Full rap metal jacket ~ Method Man </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpeedYoshi 07/11/11 5:26:00 PM #19:	From: Grand Kirby \| #011 He never saw his mom die. He was in the crib at the time. He also never saw actually Quirrel die except in the movies. That's their own plothole to deal with. Hm, this I could get behind. Don't remember that part of the movie, but whatever comes first is canon. -- Don't worry guys, I have all the clubs <cite>SpeedYoshi posted [p:79788] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> From: Grand Kirby \| #011He never saw his mom die. He was in the crib at the time.He also never saw actually Quirrel die except in the movies. That's their own plothole to deal with.Hm, this I could get behind.Don't remember that part of the movie, but whatever comes first is canon. -- Don't worry guys, I have all the clubs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheConductorSix 07/11/11 5:28:00 PM #20:	and if she did magic while she was young enough to still use teacups, it didn't count because at that age they can't control it. same reason Harry didn't get in trouble for turning his teachers hair blue, sending snakes free, etc. Harry Potter is VERY well written. At points it sacrifices a tad bit of logic to let the childish imagination wander, but the story never wavers or suffers because of it. -- Realo won gold at the Sex Olympics with a BROKEN FRIGGIN NECK.-Voltch <cite>TheConductorSix posted [p:79789] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> and if she did magic while she was young enough to still use teacups, it didn't count because at that age they can't control it.same reason Harry didn't get in trouble for turning his teachers hair blue, sending snakes free, etc.Harry Potter is VERY well written. At points it sacrifices a tad bit of logic to let the childish imagination wander, but the story never wavers or suffers because of it. -- Realo won gold at the Sex Olympics with a BROKEN FRIGGIN NECK.-Voltch </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpeedYoshi 07/11/11 5:31:00 PM #21:	From: Azp2k32 \| #017 I don't believe using magic was illegal unless you were under 17. It's illegal in front of muggles isn't it? Didn't they trey and convict harry of that? -- Don't worry guys, I have all the clubs <cite>SpeedYoshi posted [p:79790] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> From: Azp2k32 \| #017I don't believe using magic was illegal unless you were under 17.It's illegal in front of muggles isn't it? Didn't they trey and convict harry of that? -- Don't worry guys, I have all the clubs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grand Kirby 07/11/11 5:31:00 PM #22:	*Mr Lasastryke posted...* As for potholes, remember when Petunia said she remembered how Lily would turn tea cups into rats? Isn't using magic illegal when you're in the Muggle world? Rowling'd. http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/en/faq_view.cfm?id=77 -- Okay, I rolled a 14. What's that mean? Hsu That you're a cheater. This is a 12-sided die. Chan <cite>Grand Kirby posted [p:79791] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> Mr Lasastryke posted...As for potholes, remember when Petunia said she remembered how Lily would turn tea cups into rats? Isn't using magic illegal when you're in the Muggle world?Rowling'd.http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/en/faq_view.cfm?id=77 -- Okay, I rolled a 14. What's that mean? HsuThat you're a cheater. This is a 12-sided die. Chan </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 07/11/11 5:31:00 PM #23:	Deathly Hallows Part 2 HYPE sig change. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://tinyurl.com/6gkwasp <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:79792] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> Deathly Hallows Part 2 HYPE sig change. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://tinyurl.com/6gkwasp </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
therealmnm 07/11/11 5:32:00 PM #24:	The biggest plothole is the use of Time Turners for ONE book, then copping out by apparently "destroying them all" in Book Five. Of course using time travel is always a slippery slope so I'm not really surprised that Rowling didn't touch on it again after PoA. -- Currently playing: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow, Mega Man Zero Collection, Dead Rising 2, Metal Gear Solid 4, Metroid: Other M <cite>therealmnm posted [p:79793] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> The biggest plothole is the use of Time Turners for ONE book, then copping out by apparently "destroying them all" in Book Five. Of course using time travel is always a slippery slope so I'm not really surprised that Rowling didn't touch on it again after PoA. -- Currently playing: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow, Mega Man Zero Collection, Dead Rising 2, Metal Gear Solid 4, Metroid: Other M </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VincentLauw 07/11/11 5:33:00 PM #25:	From: therealmnm \| #024 The biggest plothole is the use of Time Turners for ONE book, then copping out by apparently "destroying them all" in Book Five. Of course using time travel is always a slippery slope so I'm not really surprised that Rowling didn't touch on it again after PoA. I don't really see how that is a plothole. At all. -- http://img.imgcake.com/smilegifge.gif <cite>VincentLauw posted [p:79794] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> From: therealmnm \| #024The biggest plothole is the use of Time Turners for ONE book, then copping out by apparently "destroying them all" in Book Five. Of course using time travel is always a slippery slope so I'm not really surprised that Rowling didn't touch on it again after PoA.I don't really see how that is a plothole.At all. -- http://img.imgcake.com/smilegifge.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SBell0105 07/11/11 5:34:00 PM #26:	I missed out on a lot in Book 5 since it was the first one I read and had no idea what was going on. They destroyed all the Time Turners? -- (\__/) (='.'=] <You must have one dusty computer <cite>SBell0105 posted [p:79795] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> I missed out on a lot in Book 5 since it was the first one I read and had no idea what was going on. They destroyed all the Time Turners? -- (\__/)(='.'=] <You must have one dusty computer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 07/11/11 5:35:00 PM #27:	http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/en/faq_view.cfm?id=77 Hmm... I'm skeptical about the idea that it was "nothing too serious" - IIRC, in Prisoner of Azkaban they make a very big deal about using magic illegally in the Muggle world. I like the alternative explanations better! Though, yeah, you could also go with "that's not how it happened because Petunia was exaggerating." -- Full rap metal jacket ~ Method Man <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:79796] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/en/faq_view.cfm?id=77Hmm... I'm skeptical about the idea that it was "nothing too serious" - IIRC, in Prisoner of Azkaban they make a very big deal about using magic illegally in the Muggle world. I like the alternative explanations better! Though, yeah, you could also go with "that's not how it happened because Petunia was exaggerating." -- Full rap metal jacket ~ Method Man </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grand Kirby 07/11/11 5:39:00 PM #28:	The first question is also answered in more detail. http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/en/faq_view.cfm?id=21 While I always thought the whole "Harry had to understand Cedric's death" thing was a copout, from the way she explains it, it was mainly added as a way to avoid confusing readers with something random at the end of the book that wouldn't be answered until later. That kind of justifies it a little. -- Okay, I rolled a 14. What's that mean? Hsu That you're a cheater. This is a 12-sided die. Chan <cite>Grand Kirby posted [p:79797] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> The first question is also answered in more detail.http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/en/faq_view.cfm?id=21While I always thought the whole "Harry had to understand Cedric's death" thing was a copout, from the way she explains it, it was mainly added as a way to avoid confusing readers with something random at the end of the book that wouldn't be answered until later. That kind of justifies it a little. -- Okay, I rolled a 14. What's that mean? HsuThat you're a cheater. This is a 12-sided die. Chan </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheConductorSix 07/11/11 5:40:00 PM #29:	Time Turners were a slippery slope but it was explained in the book as "You can't go back and change anything, just do more of what you already did." Basically, it was giving Hermoine something to do while Harry was off growing his legend. This was the point of the series where Rowling didn't really know the path for Hermoine and it shows. We had the whole "Hermoine is a Genius and Over Achiever" thing, so Rowling just ran with it and used it to eventually tie into Harry's story. Thankfully, starting with Book 4, Rowling stuck Hermoine with Ron while Harry was off being a BOSS. -- Realo won gold at the Sex Olympics with a BROKEN FRIGGIN NECK.-Voltch <cite>TheConductorSix posted [p:79798] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> Time Turners were a slippery slope but it was explained in the book as"You can't go back and change anything, just do more of what you already did."Basically, it was giving Hermoine something to do while Harry was off growing his legend. This was the point of the series where Rowling didn't really know the path for Hermoine and it shows. We had the whole "Hermoine is a Genius and Over Achiever" thing, so Rowling just ran with it and used it to eventually tie into Harry's story. Thankfully, starting with Book 4, Rowling stuck Hermoine with Ron while Harry was off being a BOSS. -- Realo won gold at the Sex Olympics with a BROKEN FRIGGIN NECK.-Voltch </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
therealmnm 07/11/11 5:41:00 PM #30:	*VincentLauw posted...* From: therealmnm \| #024 The biggest plothole is the use of Time Turners for ONE book, then copping out by apparently "destroying them all" in Book Five. Of course using time travel is always a slippery slope so I'm not really surprised that Rowling didn't touch on it again after PoA. I don't really see how that is a plothole. At all. Well plothole might not be an accurate description. But thinking of all the other times within the books that a Time Turner would have been useful, and you'd think that someone SOMEWHERE would be able to get their hands on one and try to prevent something from happening. -- Currently playing: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow, Mega Man Zero Collection, Dead Rising 2, Metal Gear Solid 4, Metroid: Other M <cite>therealmnm posted [p:79799] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> VincentLauw posted...From: therealmnm \| #024The biggest plothole is the use of Time Turners for ONE book, then copping out by apparently "destroying them all" in Book Five. Of course using time travel is always a slippery slope so I'm not really surprised that Rowling didn't touch on it again after PoA.I don't really see how that is a plothole.At all.Well plothole might not be an accurate description. But thinking of all the other times within the books that a Time Turner would have been useful, and you'd think that someone SOMEWHERE would be able to get their hands on one and try to prevent something from happening. -- Currently playing: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow, Mega Man Zero Collection, Dead Rising 2, Metal Gear Solid 4, Metroid: Other M </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 07/11/11 5:45:00 PM #31:	But it's like Realo said, the HP universe is a single-timeline-theory sort of place. You can't go back and change anything, you can only do what you "already" went back and did. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/imgx/1/5/2/7/4/5/7/1/orig-15274571.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:79800] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> But it's like Realo said, the HP universe is a single-timeline-theory sort of place. You can't go back and change anything, you can only do what you "already" went back and did. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/imgx/1/5/2/7/4/5/7/1/orig-15274571.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheConductorSix 07/11/11 5:51:00 PM #32:	Hermoine was already signed up for those classes, all she did was miss them. So she went back in time and didn't miss them and missed the other ones. At no point in time was she ever in BOTH classes, always one or the other. -- Realo won gold at the Sex Olympics with a BROKEN FRIGGIN NECK.-Voltch <cite>TheConductorSix posted [p:79801] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> Hermoine was already signed up for those classes, all she did was miss them. So she went back in time and didn't miss them and missed the other ones. At no point in time was she ever in BOTH classes, always one or the other. -- Realo won gold at the Sex Olympics with a BROKEN FRIGGIN NECK.-Voltch </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BoshStrikesBack 07/11/11 5:53:00 PM #33:	At no point in time was she ever in BOTH classes, always one or the other. Nope, one-timeline theory. -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBpfwpOPXNc&NR=1&feature=fvwp I watch Planet Chasers Starlight Excellent all day, every day. <cite>BoshStrikesBack posted [p:79802] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> At no point in time was she ever in BOTH classes, always one or the other.Nope, one-timeline theory. -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBpfwpOPXNc&NR=1&feature=fvwpI watch Planet Chasers Starlight Excellent all day, every day. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 07/11/11 5:53:00 PM #34:	I disagree, with the use of the Time Tuner, she WAS in both classes at once, just like how Harry was in two places at once at the end of the book when he summoned the Patronus. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/imgx/1/5/2/7/4/5/7/1/orig-15274571.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:79803] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> I disagree, with the use of the Time Tuner, she WAS in both classes at once, just like how Harry was in two places at once at the end of the book when he summoned the Patronus. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/imgx/1/5/2/7/4/5/7/1/orig-15274571.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KimPilgrim 07/11/11 5:55:00 PM #35:	Yeah pretty sure she didn't end up missing any classes. Single timeline, multiple existences. -- ~LtM http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1028/ltm.png <cite>KimPilgrim posted [p:79804] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> Yeah pretty sure she didn't end up missing any classes.Single timeline, multiple existences. -- ~LtMhttp://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1028/ltm.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 07/11/11 5:58:00 PM #36:	From: JaKyL25 \| #031 But it's like Realo said, the HP universe is a single-timeline-theory sort of place. You can't go back and change anything, you can only do what you "already" went back and did. The problem with this logic (and it's a problem all time travel plots need to deal with if they go for the single timeline thing) is that if you can't go back and change anything because you already did it, you have to have done it in the first place. The act of going back in time to change things has to originate from somewhere -- Mistake you're making - overlooking the fact that we might not want to be saved. <cite>Panthera posted [p:79805] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> From: JaKyL25 \| #031But it's like Realo said, the HP universe is a single-timeline-theory sort of place. You can't go back and change anything, you can only do what you "already" went back and did.The problem with this logic (and it's a problem all time travel plots need to deal with if they go for the single timeline thing) is that if you can't go back and change anything because you already did it, you have to have done it in the first place. The act of going back in time to change things has to originate from somewhere -- Mistake you're making - overlooking the fact that we might not want to be saved. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nintendogirl1 07/11/11 6:00:00 PM #37:	Time Travel paradoxes whoo. She was always in both places at once and she never missed any lessons, because if she did, she couldn't have gone back in time and been in it, because that would have caused a paradox. It's a closed loop with no start, which is, of course, a paradox. -- Yay! <cite>nintendogirl1 posted [p:79806] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> Time Travel paradoxes whoo. She was always in both places at once and she never missed any lessons, because if she did, she couldn't have gone back in time and been in it, because that would have caused a paradox. It's a closed loop with no start, which is, of course, a paradox. -- Yay! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 07/11/11 6:00:00 PM #38:	Well of course, it originates from the future. Don't look at time on a 3 Dimensional level! -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/imgx/1/5/2/7/4/5/7/1/orig-15274571.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:79807] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> Well of course, it originates from the future. Don't look at time on a 3 Dimensional level! -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/imgx/1/5/2/7/4/5/7/1/orig-15274571.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KimPilgrim 07/11/11 6:03:00 PM #39:	Once the Time Turner is created, all future events involving that Time Turner will automatically occur. -- ~LtM http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1028/ltm.png <cite>KimPilgrim posted [p:79808] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> Once the Time Turner is created, all future events involving that Time Turner will automatically occur. -- ~LtMhttp://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1028/ltm.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpeedYoshi 07/11/11 6:03:00 PM #40:	there are 2 hermiones twins! -- Don't worry guys, I have all the clubs <cite>SpeedYoshi posted [p:79809] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> there are 2 hermionestwins! -- Don't worry guys, I have all the clubs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nintendogirl1 07/11/11 6:22:00 PM #41:	From: KimPilgrim \| #039 Once the Time Turner is created, all future events involving that Time Turner will automatically occur. The guy that invented the time turner obviously went back in time and left the plans on his desk so he could invent it. -- :D <cite>nintendogirl1 posted [p:79810] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> From: KimPilgrim \| #039Once the Time Turner is created, all future events involving that Time Turner will automatically occur.The guy that invented the time turner obviously went back in time and left the plans on his desk so he could invent it. -- :D </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheConductorSix 07/11/11 6:25:00 PM #42:	This is why discussing TT is so difficult and why it's best not to use it. Hermoine techinically WAS in both classes, but she couldn't go back and take more or different classes that she hadn't already been apart of if that makes sense. As the book explained it, the Time Turners can't change things that had already happened. So Dumbledore couldn't use it to erase Voldemort for instance. -- Realo won gold at the Sex Olympics with a BROKEN FRIGGIN NECK.-Voltch <cite>TheConductorSix posted [p:79811] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> This is why discussing TT is so difficult and why it's best not to use it.Hermoine techinically WAS in both classes, but she couldn't go back and take more or different classes that she hadn't already been apart of if that makes sense.As the book explained it, the Time Turners can't change things that had already happened. So Dumbledore couldn't use it to erase Voldemort for instance. -- Realo won gold at the Sex Olympics with a BROKEN FRIGGIN NECK.-Voltch </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 07/11/11 6:34:00 PM #43:	I don't think the TT is hard to explain at all, personally. You cannot change anything, ever. Full stop. It already happened. -- "I'll tell you Sess' placement in an hour" - l3fty "OK, Ryan f*ing Seacrest" - Sess <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:79812] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> I don't think the TT is hard to explain at all, personally.You cannot change anything, ever. Full stop. It already happened. -- "I'll tell you Sess' placement in an hour" - l3fty"OK, Ryan f*ing Seacrest" - Sess </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 07/11/11 6:38:00 PM #44:	What I don't get is why Hermione was always late to her classes when she could time travel. I mean, besides for foreshadowing reasons. -- http://img.imgcake.com/AitchDeeTee/panicdancegifta.gif http://backloggery.com/herodeltiempo/sig.gif <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:79813] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> What I don't get is why Hermione was always late to her classes when she could time travel.I mean, besides for foreshadowing reasons. -- http://img.imgcake.com/AitchDeeTee/panicdancegifta.gifhttp://backloggery.com/herodeltiempo/sig.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nintendogirl1 07/11/11 6:39:00 PM #45:	From: XIII_rocks \| #043 You cannot change anything, ever. Full stop. It already happened. So how did it happen? If Hermione uses a TT at 9pm on Monday and goes back to 8pm. She's hanging in the common room at 7.59 and is chatting with Harry. A minute later Hermione appears out of nowhere in the Room of Requirement. She hasn't touched a TT yet, so how the ** did the 2nd Hermione show up? -- Paradox. <cite>nintendogirl1 posted [p:79814] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> From: XIII_rocks \| #043You cannot change anything, ever. Full stop. It already happened.So how did it happen? If Hermione uses a TT at 9pm on Monday and goes back to 8pm.She's hanging in the common room at 7.59 and is chatting with Harry. A minute later Hermione appears out of nowhere in the Room of Requirement. She hasn't touched a TT yet, so how the ** did the 2nd Hermione show up? -- Paradox. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nintendogirl1 07/11/11 6:41:00 PM #46:	From: HeroDelTiempo17 \| #044 What I don't get is why Hermione was always late to her classes when she could time travel. I mean, besides for foreshadowing reasons. It only turned back exactly an hour. She needed to finish one class, find an empty location and turn back time one hour and then run to her class. Assuming classes are an hour long, she's consistently going to be late for half her classes. -- That one is easy. <cite>nintendogirl1 posted [p:79815] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> From: HeroDelTiempo17 \| #044What I don't get is why Hermione was always late to her classes when she could time travel.I mean, besides for foreshadowing reasons.It only turned back exactly an hour. She needed to finish one class, find an empty location and turn back time one hour and then run to her class. Assuming classes are an hour long, she's consistently going to be late for half her classes. -- That one is easy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarvelousGerbil 07/11/11 6:42:00 PM #47:	You know what I don't get? Why were house elves in it... at all... ever... -- http://i.imgur.com/WRgfu.gif <cite>MarvelousGerbil posted [p:79816] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> You know what I don't get? Why were house elves in it... at all... ever... -- http://i.imgur.com/WRgfu.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 07/11/11 6:44:00 PM #48:	*nintendogirl1 posted...* From: XIII_rocks \| #043 You cannot change anything, ever. Full stop. It already happened. So how did it happen? If Hermione uses a TT at 9pm on Monday and goes back to 8pm. She's hanging in the common room at 7.59 and is chatting with Harry. A minute later Hermione appears out of nowhere in the Room of Requirement. She hasn't touched a TT yet, so how the ** did the 2nd Hermione show up? Come again? Not exactly sure what you're asking. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/imgx/1/5/2/7/4/5/7/1/orig-15274571.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:79817] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> nintendogirl1 posted...From: XIII_rocks \| #043You cannot change anything, ever. Full stop. It already happened.So how did it happen? If Hermione uses a TT at 9pm on Monday and goes back to 8pm.She's hanging in the common room at 7.59 and is chatting with Harry. A minute later Hermione appears out of nowhere in the Room of Requirement. She hasn't touched a TT yet, so how the ** did the 2nd Hermione show up?Come again? Not exactly sure what you're asking. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/imgx/1/5/2/7/4/5/7/1/orig-15274571.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 07/11/11 6:44:00 PM #49:	From: nintendogirl1 \| #045 From: XIII_rocks \| #043 You cannot change anything, ever. Full stop. It already happened. So how did it happen? If Hermione uses a TT at 9pm on Monday and goes back to 8pm. She's hanging in the common room at 7.59 and is chatting with Harry. A minute later Hermione appears out of nowhere in the Room of Requirement. She hasn't touched a TT yet, so how the ** did the 2nd Hermione show up? She showed up at 8 PM because she WILL touch a TT at 9 in the future. Temporal casualty, or predestination paradox. You guys should read Homestuck -- http://img.imgcake.com/AitchDeeTee/panicdancegifta.gif http://backloggery.com/herodeltiempo/sig.gif <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:79818] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> From: nintendogirl1 \| #045From: XIII_rocks \| #043You cannot change anything, ever. Full stop. It already happened.So how did it happen? If Hermione uses a TT at 9pm on Monday and goes back to 8pm.She's hanging in the common room at 7.59 and is chatting with Harry. A minute later Hermione appears out of nowhere in the Room of Requirement. She hasn't touched a TT yet, so how the ** did the 2nd Hermione show up?She showed up at 8 PM because she WILL touch a TT at 9 in the future.Temporal casualty, or predestination paradox.You guys should read Homestuck -- http://img.imgcake.com/AitchDeeTee/panicdancegifta.gifhttp://backloggery.com/herodeltiempo/sig.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpeedYoshi 07/11/11 6:45:00 PM #50:	how else would JKR fit the acronym SPEW into the books? and yeah, the time travel makes no sense if we're talking singular timeline -- Don't worry guys, I have all the clubs <cite>SpeedYoshi posted [p:79819] in You know w... [t:59705466]...</cite> <quote> how else would JKR fit the acronym SPEW into the books?and yeah, the time travel makes no sense if we're talking singular timeline -- Don't worry guys, I have all the clubs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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