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Jeff Zero
07/02/11 2:05:00 PM
#151:


OmarsComin posted...
oh **** CPU tails on the S2 Emerald Stages, punk is what he is

Yes. Yes he is. I have some Summer 2009 nightmares about that. But in the end it led to my friend going co-op with me for both 2 and 3&K out of sympathy!

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WiggumFan267
07/02/11 3:26:00 PM
#152:


Play Sonic 2 as "Sonic only" unless you have a bud. Only way to fly (since Tails can't LOL).


Also tails is a ****er against some bosses too and he likes to hit them first and make you fall through; see: Hill Top, Chem Plant.

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Jeff Zero
07/02/11 3:27:00 PM
#153:


I've watched Tails singlehandedly kill Casino Night's boss. That was weird.

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LeonhartFour
07/02/11 5:36:00 PM
#154:


I don't think I've ever legitimately gotten all the Chaos Emeralds in Sonic 2. I was always bad at those stages as a kid, and whenever I play Sonic 2, I don't even bother trying to do them at all anymore.

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pjbasis
07/02/11 5:38:00 PM
#155:


I should play my Sonic Collection again.

You guys keep making me think maybe the old Sonic games are good after all!
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LeonhartFour
07/02/11 5:38:00 PM
#156:


They are great!

But you don't like FFX, so I have my doubts as to whether you'll agree.

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pjbasis
07/02/11 5:41:00 PM
#157:


Don't worry, there's probably still some hope for you!

FFX might be the only real blunder on your record.

Oh wait you don't like Chrono Cross and MGS2 is your least favorite...oh well.
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LeonhartFour
07/02/11 5:42:00 PM
#158:


I didn't say I don't like Chrono Cross!

It's just a heavily flawed game.

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pjbasis
07/02/11 5:44:00 PM
#159:


I'd rather you irrationally hate so I can file you under "haters gon hate" than be logical about it!
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LeonhartFour
07/02/11 5:55:00 PM
#160:


I hate Harle and Kid, so you can file me under that.

Yuck.

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WiggumFan267
07/02/11 7:30:00 PM
#161:


Guile > all

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LeonhartFour
07/02/11 7:59:00 PM
#162:


Eh, I'm partial to the Serge/Karsh/Norris party, personally. You can sub Glenn in there, too, if you like.

Anyway, back on topic, I will say this: I really like Marble Garden's boss fight (Well, the Sonic & Tails or just Tails version anyway). I think the execution is a bit flawed, but I love the concept of fighting Robotnik in the air with Tails carrying Sonic. It just looks so cool. Great atmosphere there. Love S3&K's boss theme, too, so good.

Let's try to rank S3&K's boss fights (Robotnik only because LOL midbosses):

Doomsday > Death Egg 2 > Sky Sanctuary (Knuckles) > Launch Base 3 > Marble Garden (Sonic & Tails) > Lava Reef > Death Egg 1 > Ice Cap > Sky Sanctuary (Sonic) > Launch Base 2 > Mushroom Hill > Sandopolis > Hydrocity > Carnival Night > Flying Battery > Launch Base 1 > Angel Island > Marble Garden (Knuckles)

Not ranking the Sky Sanctuary boss fights that are just rehashes of Green Hill and Metropolis boss fights, for the record, so the only one being ranked there for Sonic is the last Metal Sonic fight.

I think that's all of them.

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WiggumFan267
07/02/11 8:30:00 PM
#163:


Hey now!! FAKE EGG GUY from Flying Battery is the bossest ****er ever!

Anyway

For Sky Sanct: The 3rd metal sonic fight is just a rehash of the Sonic 2 Silver Sonic fight though! I'll still rank it though
And then for Knuckles I mean just the fight vs Metal/Super Metal Sonic.

Bosses rank:

****ing Epic:
Death Egg 2 (Fingers Man/Flame-Laser Guy/Emerald Chase)
Doomsday
Launch Base 3 (Spiked head, grabby hands guy)

Awesome:
Death Egg 1 (Guy with the spiked cars)
Mushroom Hill
Marble Garden (Sonic/Tails)

Cool:
Sandopolis
Launch Base 2 (Laser + Spike ball o doom)
Hydrocity
Sky Sanc (Knuckles)
Lava Reef

Okay I guess:
Flying Battery
Launch Base 1 (Bowling ballz)
Angel Island
Carnival Night

Feh:
Ice Cap
Sky Sanc (Sonic)
Marble Garden (Knuckles)

lol:
Hidden Base (vs Knuckles) (lol)

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LeonhartFour
07/02/11 8:33:00 PM
#164:


From: WiggumFan267 | #163
For Sky Sanct: The 3rd metal sonic fight is just a rehash of the Sonic 2 Silver Sonic fight though!


Hey, it's a little different!

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OmarsComin
07/02/11 8:43:00 PM
#165:


I don't think I care as much about the boss battles, probably couldn't do a ranking. I'll say that I do like the final boss of S3&K, final boss of S3 vanilla, and the Sandopolis one. I don't like the Lava Reef one at all. And while it's kind of lame I guess, the first time I fought Knuckles as a kid I thought it was really cool.
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LeonhartFour
07/02/11 8:45:00 PM
#166:


Hidden Palace is one of those levels that's really stinkin' awesome even though it's easy as pie and mostly there to set up the rest of the game. Getting to fight Knuckles after nearly two games of antagonism was great!

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LeonhartFour
07/02/11 8:47:00 PM
#167:


And let's try Sonic 2 boss rankings:

Death Egg > Oil Ocean > Chemical Plant > Mystic Ruins > Wing Fortress > Aquatic Ruin > Hill Top > Casino Night > Metropolis > Emerald Hill (lawl)

Man, Sonic 2's boss fights are really bad.

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WiggumFan267
07/02/11 9:00:00 PM
#168:


oh hahaha I just realized i said Hidden Base not Hidden Palace fml.
Yeah Knuckles fight was sweet in theory, lame in execution!

Okay Sonic 2:

Casino Night
Death Egg
Wing Fortress
Oil Ocean
Metropolis
Chemical Plant
Mystic Cave
Aquatic Ruin
Hill Top
Emerald Hill

and yes. Yes they are.

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WiggumFan267
07/02/11 9:03:00 PM
#169:


SONIC 1 BOSS BATTLES **** YES:

Star Light
Labyrinth (I actually enjoy this! Very intense)
Final
Green Hill
Spring Yard
Marble

Why doesn't Scrap Brain have a boss again??

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OmarsComin
07/02/11 9:06:00 PM
#170:


Spring Yard boss hurt so much as a kid. Terrified me.
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WiggumFan267
07/02/11 9:07:00 PM
#171:


Sonic CD:

Stadust Speedway!!!!
Wacky Workbench
Metallic Madness
Tidal Tempest
Quartz Quadrant
Palmtree Panic
Collision Chaos

I'd do Sonic 3D Blast too, but I don't feel like going back to my post to remember the level names >_>. But I really like the final boss fight and the Gene Gadget (on the conveyor belt)

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WiggumFan267
07/02/11 9:08:00 PM
#172:


Spring Yard boss was a scary ***** yeah. Hard to coax him down and sometimes youd miss and then youre like oh **** my platform is smaller

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SunO0
07/02/11 9:10:00 PM
#173:


Final Zone is Scrap Brain's boss; Final Zone can actually be seen in Scrap Brain 2...
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LeonhartFour
07/02/11 10:44:00 PM
#174:


Yeah, I consider the last boss to be the Scrap Brain boss.

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WiggumFan267
07/02/11 11:06:00 PM
#175:


Oh yeah I remember that now, the other side of that thing.

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LeonhartFour
07/03/11 11:26:00 AM
#176:


One of the great things about the Genesis Sonic games is that they're the perfect length for marathoning. You can just sit down and blast through them. They're the perfect length for replays.

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raytan7585
07/03/11 11:55:00 AM
#177:


Most hated zone ever:
Sandopolis Zone Act 2

f***ing ghosts


Also, playing as Knuckles in Sandopolis Zone Act 2 is a pain in the ass!


Not to mention the Carnival Night Zone Act 2, the f***ing barrel.

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raytan7585
07/03/11 12:06:00 PM
#178:


BTW, did you guys play Robotnik's Revenge, a Sonic 2 hack?



It's fun battling all bosses from Sonic 1 and 2.

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XIII_rocks
07/03/11 12:13:00 PM
#179:


raytan7585 posted...
BTW, did you guys play Robotnik's Revenge, a Sonic 2 hack?



It's fun battling all bosses from Sonic 1 and 2.


Hah. That looks awesome.

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LeonhartFour
07/03/11 12:24:00 PM
#180:


Looks like fun, especially considering you actually get a few rings before each fight!

That reminds me about how easy it is to cheap your way through a lot of those boss fights. On some of those, you can beat Robotnik before he even gets to do anything.

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Jeff Zero
07/03/11 12:38:00 PM
#181:


OmarsComin posted...
Spring Yard boss hurt so much as a kid. Terrified me.

Definitely the most frightening part of 1991 for me.

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LeonhartFour
07/03/11 12:48:00 PM
#182:


Man, nothing was more frightening than the Sonic drowning music.

Part of me thinks I should make that my alarm ringtone because I'd be out of bed in a hurry to shut that thing off every morning, and I'd be so scared I couldn't go back to sleep.

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Jeff Zero
07/03/11 12:48:00 PM
#183:


LeonhartFour posted...
Man, nothing was more frightening than the Sonic drowning music.

Part of me thinks I should make that my alarm ringtone because I'd be out of bed in a hurry to shut that thing off every morning, and I'd be so scared I couldn't go back to sleep.


That drowning music is more panic-attack-inducing than... than... than something really scary! I can't focus right now, okay!

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metaIslugg
07/03/11 1:39:00 PM
#184:


raytan7585 posted...
BTW, did you guys play Robotnik's Revenge, a Sonic 2 hack?




No, but I played this:

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LinkMarioSamus
07/03/11 4:48:00 PM
#185:


LeonhartFour posted...
One of the great things about the Genesis Sonic games is that they're the perfect length for marathoning. You can just sit down and blast through them. They're the perfect length for replays.

This.

Someday I want to play through a lot of SNES-era games that I haven't beaten, and the Sonic/DKC games were prime targets for this. But yeah, whatever.

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OmarsComin
07/03/11 4:58:00 PM
#186:


As far as Sonic hacks go, MegaMix is really good (though you gotta make sure you grab the up to date CD version and not the old one that's based on the Sonic 1 cart) and I think there's one called Tohaka or something like that, where there's not a whole lot done but for the first level or so the design is excellent.
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LeonhartFour
07/03/11 7:58:00 PM
#187:


I've never really played hacks before. Not sure I'd really be into that sorta thing!

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OmarsComin
07/03/11 8:46:00 PM
#188:


most of them are junk, and not worth playing past a couple of them having novelty value. But Sonic Megamix is pretty good! I wouldn't say "just like the Genesis ones" but it's the only Sonic-related thing I've played and liked besides the Genesis ones.
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LeonhartFour
07/03/11 11:50:00 PM
#189:


Man, Board 8 needs more Sonic fans.

Watching people talk about how bad Ice Cap Zone's music is and vote the friggin' Forest Temple "song" from OoT over it is making me angry.

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LinkMarioSamus
07/04/11 12:19:00 AM
#190:


'Kay Leonhart, I'll see what I can do about it.

Although with blind playthroughs of such legendary games as Final Fantasy VII and Metal Gear Solid (plus 2, 3, and Peace Walker) hopefully in the near future, I kinda doubt it.

So yeah, I'll see about your Sonic, Leonhart. Even though you find 6 of my top 10 games to be extremely overrated somehow (and no there's no 3D Zelda in my top 10, don't worry).

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raytan7585
07/04/11 12:55:00 AM
#191:


lol I keep playing Doomsday Zone for like 20-30 times just to beat my record.
So far I beat my record by finishing the final boss with 30 rings left and time 2:24.

Best Zone ever.

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OmarsComin
07/04/11 2:18:00 AM
#192:


if LMS becomes a Sonic fan he'll be like

"Hm, Genesis vs Gamecube...

Sonic 2 > Resident Evil 4
Wind Waker > Sonic 3
Super Mario Galaxy > Sonic 1

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XIII_rocks
07/04/11 5:54:00 AM
#193:


People in the VGMusic topic disparaging Ice Cap's music, what is this.

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XIII_rocks
07/04/11 5:55:00 AM
#194:


LeonhartFour posted...
Man, Board 8 needs more Sonic fans.

Watching people talk about how bad Ice Cap Zone's music is and vote the friggin' Forest Temple "song" from OoT over it is making me angry.


Oh hey

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raytan7585
07/04/11 10:00:00 AM
#195:


The PC version of Ice Cap music is better, tbh.

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LeonhartFour
07/04/11 11:47:00 AM
#196:


The one thing I dislike about Doomsday is that it takes forever for the second phase of the fight to start after you beat the first part (literally 10-15 seconds), and there are no rings to collect during that part, so you better hope you're not running low when you beat it or you're dead waiting for Robotnik to finish exploding.

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OmarsComin
07/04/11 11:56:00 AM
#197:


doomsday too easy

I spent my childhood thinking you couldn't dash forward/speed up/whatever and learned to beat it just by memorizing the ring locations on both parts and making sure I had a good supply after the first half. now that I realize you can dash forward and do that all way faster it's cake!

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WiggumFan267
07/04/11 12:30:00 PM
#198:


S&K = 3 > CD > 1 > 2
If you like, Spinball goes between CD and 1 and 3DB at the end.

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LeonhartFour
07/04/11 12:32:00 PM
#199:


I like Spinball, but let's not get crazy!

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07/04/11 12:50:00 PM
#200:


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