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TheSultanOfSlam
02/16/24 7:53:29 PM
#1:


The ones who Hired the Blue Haird Lawyer:
1. JC
2. Lea
3. Red
4.Sbell
5..Ulti
6. Ben
7..Chang

Death of a Snailsman
D1 Ctes - Marge/Maggie Simpson, Scum Vanillaizer
N1 Lopen - Gil Gunderson, Town Unsuccessful salesman (Vanilla)
D2 Isquen - Principal Seymour Skinner, Town mommas boy (vanilla)
N2 Kirby - ????????
D3 Corrik - Lisa Simpson, Scum Studious (Role cop)
N3 Mzero - Chief Clancy Wiggum, Town Lazy cop (Odd day day cop)
D4 Death- Homer Simpson Mafia Jack Of All Kills.
N4 FD- Kirk Van Houten town dissapoint (Vanilla)
N3- Wallz- Fat Tony Town Kidnapper/Tracker

Votals While Drinking at Moe's
(3)Chang- Lea Ben, (Sbell), ulti
(1)Ben- Chang
(1)Ulti- JC


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Chaeix
02/16/24 8:28:01 PM
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whoops chang asked, not ben

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80695490/978822016

no rush but lea where was this quote pulled from? i can't find it anywhere around the sbell discussion

identical post lock

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Enchantress
02/16/24 10:36:34 PM
#3:


End the day damn you

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Chaeix
02/16/24 10:54:20 PM
#4:


quick Chang hammer yourself

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Obellisk
02/17/24 9:46:12 AM
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nothing overnight.

well I think we've absolutely narrowed it down to 1 in Chang, Ulti, Lea and Ben.

Otherwise scum would have just hammered Town already and moved us on to the next day.

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Enchantress
02/17/24 10:10:29 AM
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Really glad we can eliminate Red and JC from contention now helps a ton
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Obellisk
02/17/24 10:37:41 AM
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Enchantress posted...
Really glad we can eliminate Red and JC from contention now helps a ton

well and me. Since I too have not voted to hammer. But I knew you'd appreciate it.

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Enchantress
02/17/24 10:40:31 AM
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No I only appreciate hammers it's the towniest thing a person can do
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Chaeix
02/17/24 10:51:40 AM
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sbell are you voting Chang or are you revisiting the other 2 rn

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Obellisk
02/17/24 10:57:12 AM
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I feel like Ulti makes a lot of sense in a lot of ways, But at the same time has enough interactions with power roles to give him the clear.

When Death went to bed Day 1 its not like it was already a big tie between Ctes and Corrik so his vote on Ulti is not like Death avoiding scummates. The votals at that point were spread very thin so dropping an Ulti vote and saying its the best case for town could really have been a bus expecting it to never come to fruition. But to go that angle right now feels like a big stretch.

I honestly have nothing to go on when it comes to Ben and i guess i'm going to need to make that deep dive eventually. Are we still saying that its too many Vanillas? Or do we feel like we've hit that Vanilla sweet spot now? Ben hasn't made me feel like he's scum and maybe thats hats off to him.

Then we have Chang which seems to be the consensus but I can't help but feel like Scum is just waiting for us to lynch him. Its not a great feeling.

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PunishedBen
02/17/24 11:09:13 AM
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Well, you're probably right because Chang is indeed waiting for us to lynch him. There's only one scum, and it's not MYLO, so you can't really read into that or into the fact that no one is hammering. Whoever scum is would have to prioritize looking good, there's no sense in hammering even if Chang is town - just let the other town kill him

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Enchantress
02/17/24 11:20:13 AM
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Chaeix
02/17/24 11:24:43 AM
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Obellisk posted...
I feel like Ulti makes a lot of sense in a lot of ways, But at the same time has enough interactions with power roles to give him the clear.

When Death went to bed Day 1 its not like it was already a big tie between Ctes and Corrik so his vote on Ulti is not like Death avoiding scummates. The votals at that point were spread very thin so dropping an Ulti vote and saying its the best case for town could really have been a bus expecting it to never come to fruition. But to go that angle right now feels like a big stretch.

I honestly have nothing to go on when it comes to Ben and i guess i'm going to need to make that deep dive eventually. Are we still saying that its too many Vanillas? Or do we feel like we've hit that Vanilla sweet spot now? Ben hasn't made me feel like he's scum and maybe thats hats off to him.

Then we have Chang which seems to be the consensus but I can't help but feel like Scum is just waiting for us to lynch him. Its not a great feeling.
I mean isnt the chang thing partially premised on the idea that hes flavour GF if hes scum at this point?

cop scan is just as moot given GF and him not being tracked means *nothing* because GF would never move until absolutely necessary

like yes there are interactions but at this point they clearly cant have stock put into them that clears him more than any other vanilla

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Enchantress
02/17/24 11:26:32 AM
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PunishedBen posted...
Well, you're probably right because Chang is indeed waiting for us to lynch him. There's only one scum, and it's not MYLO, so you can't really read into that or into the fact that no one is hammering. Whoever scum is would have to prioritize looking good, there's no sense in hammering even if Chang is town - just let the other town kill him

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Enchantress
02/17/24 11:38:42 AM
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Chaeix
02/17/24 11:57:22 AM
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hey last scum if I hammer Chang can you confirm that youll get night actions in right away so day can start today instead of tomorrow, pls and thanx

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Enchantress
02/17/24 11:57:25 AM
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Chaeix
02/17/24 11:57:56 AM
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Enchantress posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/ca4f63d3.jpg
my brain kept wanting to interpret lobby as a verb given our context

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Enchantress
02/17/24 12:00:08 PM
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Chaeix posted...
hey last scum if I hammer Chang can you confirm that youll get night actions in right away so day can start today instead of tomorrow, pls and thanx

I'm Mr. Snrub and I'm the last member of the scum team. Yes, that will do. I think it would be quite corking if me and my mafia chums would immediately shoot Red, while Red saves Lea, and donate votes to the local energy concern.
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changmas
02/17/24 12:51:22 PM
#20:


alright well this is awkward

i thought after going out last night and sleeping and waking up that surely the day would be over one way or another and yet here we are.

it feels wrong to post again after doing a "this is my last post" thing but it also feels wrong to pretend that after 16 hours I didn't check back in and see what was going on so here i am

so what the hell people make up your minds if you dont wanna kill me lets kill ben

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Chaeix
02/17/24 1:01:19 PM
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Enchantress posted...
I'm Mr. Snrub and I'm the last member of the scum team. Yes, that will do. I think it would be quite corking if me and my mafia chums would immediately shoot Red, while Red saves Lea, and donate votes to the local energy concern.
hashtaghashtaglea

she didn't claim mr snrub earlier

if ben and sbell won't switch to ulti i guess i'm only really postponing the inevitable. sbell, ben, either of you thinking FLEXIBLY?

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PunishedBen
02/17/24 1:22:00 PM
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Chaeix posted...
hashtaghashtaglea

she didn't claim mr snrub earlier

if ben and sbell won't switch to ulti i guess i'm only really postponing the inevitable. sbell, ben, either of you thinking FLEXIBLY?
I will not waver

I just have no preference between killing anyone but Chang because the rest are so town to me.

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changmas
02/17/24 1:28:01 PM
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well if its not me and everyone else is so town then i guess theres only one person it could be then, huh?

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PunishedBen
02/17/24 1:30:40 PM
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*gasp*

Lea! (not to be confused with Enchantress)

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Chaeix
02/17/24 1:36:00 PM
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changmas posted...
well if its not me and everyone else is so town then i guess theres only one person it could be then, huh?
why no flexibility on ulti?

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changmas
02/17/24 1:45:29 PM
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Chaeix posted...
why no flexibility on ulti?

i just dont see it frankly

and tbh i see it more likely to go chang -> ben lynch than ulti -> ben

because if i dont get lynched today im definitely getting lynched tomorrow. so i'd rather take the better shot at what i see as the last scum even if it costs me

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Obellisk
02/17/24 1:49:25 PM
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changmas posted...
i just dont see it frankly

and tbh i see it more likely to go chang -> ben lynch than ulti -> ben

because if i dont get lynched today im definitely getting lynched tomorrow. so i'd rather take the better shot at what i see as the last scum even if it costs me


if we don't lynch you today. who do you forsee the final 5 to be?

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changmas
02/17/24 1:49:58 PM
#28:


red dies tonight 100000%

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changmas
02/17/24 1:51:51 PM
#29:


although i suppose if the final 5 looks like jc chang sbell ben lea then sbell may be the tiebreaking vote?

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Enchantress
02/17/24 4:49:04 PM
#31:


You're right, Ulti. In my haste to end this day where no one is researching or changing their mind, I didn't give full consideration to those saying we should lynch you instead of Chang. Apologies.
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Enchantress
02/17/24 4:59:02 PM
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Well, if you don't want to rush the day and you don't want people to talk about the only other hypothetical options, I don't know what to tell ya.
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Leafeon13N
02/17/24 6:03:54 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...


That said, I highly doubt scum has Corrik plus a day scanner meant to dance with MZero
We have scanner, rb equivalent, and all the killing you could want.

The last is almost certainly a scanner foil of some variety.
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Obellisk
02/17/24 6:16:17 PM
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Well, I guess we are just going to proceed with Chang. I don't see a other lynch actually happening and we'll have to tskr this down to a final 5 if Chang is in fact town.


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changmas
02/17/24 6:19:54 PM
#36:


kill ben tomorrow not ulti i swear to god

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Obellisk
02/17/24 6:23:16 PM
#37:


watch its 5 scum and scum chang is just fucking with us

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PunishedBen
02/17/24 6:25:11 PM
#38:


Obellisk posted...
watch its 5 scum and scum chang is just fucking with us
Why 5?

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Chaeix
02/17/24 6:39:55 PM
#39:


PunishedBen posted...
Why 5?
because if it were 3 we would have won already and if it were 6 thatd be broken?

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PunishedBen
02/17/24 6:57:56 PM
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There is a number between 3 and 5. Trying to understand the angle of your post

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PunishedBen
02/17/24 6:58:54 PM
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Oh, Sbell's post. Didnt see the response was from JC.


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Obellisk
02/17/24 7:09:45 PM
#42:


PunishedBen posted...
Why 5?

because then chang is scum and knows the game doesn't end anyway.

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PunishedBen
02/17/24 7:15:46 PM
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Well since we're still here, and sat along enough for doubt to set in, I'll try and think about any possibilities other than Chang.

What does Chang have going for him? In order for Chang to be scum, he would HAVE to be a Flavor Godfather. Because the current end game plan for Chang would have to be kill me, Sbell, and Lea, leaving Lea alive till final 3. He has positioned himself to saying never kill Ulti. Perhaps to prepare for the final of Chang, Ulti, and Lea? Regardless, it means Chang would have to have immunity against Lea. I dont think thats a stretch since Godfather should cover both cop scans imo, but its food for thought.

A part of me wonders if Town Day vig + Town Mayor is too much town kill control? And then if Death's extra kills are all just modifiers, then did scum really not have an extra kill? Would mayor be their extra kill? Then again JC's posting today doesnt give me bad vibes or anything. If he is scum he can just be content to let Chang die and not stage a whole counter lynch on Ulti right? I guess from that position of role immunity you could basically do whatever you want lol. Ehhh. Actually I liked it when JC earlier said that if he was scum he wouldnt count this win, or something. I dont think that is something a scum would say. Well so much for that idea

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PunishedBen
02/17/24 7:17:38 PM
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For Sbell being scum, I'm still hung up on the Death guessing Sbell's role. I simply dont think scum pull that shit. Sbell would have to be third party or a scum member who is unknown to the other scum members in order to be scum

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Obellisk
02/17/24 7:18:42 PM
#45:


PunishedBen posted...


A part of me wonders if Town Day vig +

night vig

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changmas
02/17/24 7:22:47 PM
#46:


anyways plans again tonight so i suppose it's time for my final post part 2

let this be a lesson to everyone that no matter how tempting it is to never claim town bulletproof to never, ever do so. board 8 will never let you live. just claim something outlandish like peter griffin and it's be so blindly obvious that you're town that you can skate right into top 3 if you just complain a little

it's been fun though, gl to town

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PunishedBen
02/17/24 7:24:34 PM
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changmas posted...
anyways plans again tonight so i suppose it's time for my final post part 2

let this be a lesson to everyone that no matter how tempting it is to never claim town bulletproof to never, ever do so. board 8 will never let you live. just claim something outlandish like peter griffin and it's be so blindly obvious that you're town that you can skate right into top 3 if you just complain a little

it's been fun though, gl to town

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/cd7e2cca.jpg
Do you just completely disagree with my point about Death guessing Sbell was peter griffin then?

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Enchantress
02/17/24 7:25:22 PM
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Leafeon13N
02/17/24 7:32:24 PM
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PunishedBen posted...
And then if Death's extra kills are all just modifiers, then did scum really not have an extra kill?
The poison specifies being an extra kill.
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PunishedBen
02/17/24 7:36:39 PM
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Leafeon13N posted...
The poison specifies being an extra kill.
Ah okay, good to note

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