Current Events > US mother sentenced to two years in prison for giving daughter abortion pills

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refmon 09/22/23 4:59:31 PM #1:	https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/22/burgess-abortion-pill-nebraska-mother-daughter --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:976242814] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/22/burgess-abortion-pill-nebraska-mother-daughter </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Were_Wyrm 09/22/23 5:00:45 PM #2:	The judge smiled burgessly... --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom https://i.imgur.com/0EJvC4l.jpg <cite>Were_Wyrm posted [p:976242846] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>The judge smiled burgessly... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/22/23 5:01:02 PM #3:	...and tampering with human remains <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:976242855] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>...and tampering with human remains</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cephalopods 09/22/23 5:01:37 PM #4:	These anti abortion laws are fucking evil. <cite>Cephalopods posted [p:976242862] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>These anti abortion laws are fucking evil. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JumpstyIe 09/22/23 5:01:40 PM #5:	the people responsible for these laws and this conviction are human garbage --- What the **** is Jumpstyle? <cite>JumpstyIe posted [p:976242864] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>the people responsible for these laws and this conviction are human garbage </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElMaton04 09/22/23 5:04:09 PM #6:	Digusting. I'm glad they she got punished. I can't believe what they did the body. That's just digusting. <cite>ElMaton04 posted [p:976242909] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>Digusting. I'm glad they she got punished. I can't believe what they did the body. That's just digusting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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-Unowninator- 09/22/23 5:05:01 PM #8:	Cephalopods posted... These anti abortion laws are fucking evil. --- Not changing this signature until I think of a better one. Stated 8/26/2021 Join the unknown: http://goo.gl/S75cmn <cite>-Unowninator- posted [p:976242922] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>Cephalopods posted...</cite><quote>These anti abortion laws are fucking evil. </quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heavy_D_Forever 09/22/23 5:05:35 PM #9:	I'm curious how they got charged in the first place? Like, who reported this to the police? --- E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES <cite>Heavy_D_Forever posted [p:976242937] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>I'm curious how they got charged in the first place? Like, who reported this to the police? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-Unowninator- 09/22/23 5:05:42 PM #10:	ElMaton04 posted... Digusting. I'm glad they she got punished. I can't believe what they did the body. That's just digusting. It wasn't even alive. They should be allowed to do what they want with it. --- Not changing this signature until I think of a better one. Stated 8/26/2021 Join the unknown: http://goo.gl/S75cmn <cite>-Unowninator- posted [p:976242940] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>ElMaton04 posted...</cite><quote>Digusting. I'm glad they she got punished. I can't believe what they did the body. That's just digusting.</quote>It wasn't even alive. They should be allowed to do what they want with it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
itachi15243 09/22/23 5:06:03 PM #11:	Cephalopods posted... These anti abortion laws are fucking evil. --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz <cite>itachi15243 posted [p:976242945] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>Cephalopods posted... </cite><quote>These anti abortion laws are fucking evil.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paragon21XX 09/22/23 5:09:59 PM #12:	Found an article that said the fetus was 29 weeks along which is well into the 3rd trimester. --- Politicians are the weeds of the galaxy. <cite>Paragon21XX posted [p:976243023] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>Found an article that said the fetus was 29 weeks along which is well into the 3rd trimester. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass 09/22/23 5:10:28 PM #13:	Cephalopods posted... These anti abortion laws are fucking evil. --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. <cite>Bass posted [p:976243031] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>Cephalopods posted... </cite><quote>These anti abortion laws are fucking evil.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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archizzy 09/22/23 5:10:55 PM #15:	It said she was "well beyond 20 weeks" How far along? --- PSN ID: sled_dogs76 60" Pioneer Kuro Elite PRO151FD, Yamaha RX-V3900 A/V Receiver, Oppo DV983-H player. Coming soon: 2 Seaton Submersives from Mark Seaton <cite>archizzy posted [p:976243038] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>It said she was "well beyond 20 weeks" How far along? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paragon21XX 09/22/23 5:12:00 PM #16:	archizzy posted... It said she was "well beyond 20 weeks" How far along? 29 weeks --- Politicians are the weeds of the galaxy. <cite>Paragon21XX posted [p:976243061] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>archizzy posted... </cite><quote>It said she was "well beyond 20 weeks" How far along?</quote>29 weeks </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BewmHedshot 09/22/23 5:12:05 PM #17:	Heavy_D_Forever posted... I'm curious how they got charged in the first place? Like, who reported this to the police? Presumably the abusive partner who knocked her up. <cite>BewmHedshot posted [p:976243062] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>Heavy_D_Forever posted... </cite><quote>I'm curious how they got charged in the first place? Like, who reported this to the police?</quote>Presumably the abusive partner who knocked her up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass 09/22/23 5:12:49 PM #18:	If abortion wasn't outlawed I highly doubt they would have waited that long. --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. <cite>Bass posted [p:976243074] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>If abortion wasn't outlawed I highly doubt they would have waited that long. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 09/22/23 5:13:01 PM #19:	It was apparently 29 weeks, which feels... Very far into the pregnancy, and then on top of that was the "mishandling" of the remains. I'm leaning toward this being fair, but I'd like to hear more details. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:976243080] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>It was apparently 29 weeks, which feels... Very far into the pregnancy, and then on top of that was the "mishandling" of the remains. I'm leaning toward this being fair, but I'd like to hear more details. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 09/22/23 5:13:34 PM #20:	Bass posted... If abortion wasn't outlawed I highly doubt they would have waited that long. At the time, abortion up to 20 weeks was legal, so I'm not sure this is true. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:976243090] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>Bass posted... </cite><quote>If abortion wasn't outlawed I highly doubt they would have waited that long.</quote>At the time, abortion up to 20 weeks was legal, so I'm not sure this is true. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
archizzy 09/22/23 5:13:52 PM #21:	Paragon21XX posted... 29 weeks Yeah I just saw your earlier post. I honestly think that puts this in a much different light. But I'm not getting into that discussion on this board. --- PSN ID: sled_dogs76 60" Pioneer Kuro Elite PRO151FD, Yamaha RX-V3900 A/V Receiver, Oppo DV983-H player. Coming soon: 2 Seaton Submersives from Mark Seaton <cite>archizzy posted [p:976243097] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>Paragon21XX posted... </cite><quote>29 weeks</quote>Yeah I just saw your earlier post. I honestly think that puts this in a much different light. But I'm not getting into that discussion on this board. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 09/22/23 5:15:07 PM #22:	I remember this story. Lots of CEmen were getting mad that anyone should question the merit of performing what was essentially a back alley 3rd trimester abortion. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:976243112] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>I remember this story. Lots of CEmen were getting mad that anyone should question the merit of performing what was essentially a back alley 3rd trimester abortion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 09/22/23 5:15:41 PM #23:	Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't 20 weeks like, a fairly generous average, of what most states allow? 29 weeks feels very late. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:976243117] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't 20 weeks like, a fairly generous average, of what most states allow? 29 weeks feels very late. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Savoots 09/22/23 5:17:12 PM #24:	7 months huh? Does CE bother reading beyond the headline? --- You're a slave to the people you hate.... <cite>Savoots posted [p:976243146] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>7 months huh?Does CE bother reading beyond the headline? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/22/23 5:18:01 PM #25:	A_Good_Boy posted... I remember this story. Lots of CEmen were getting mad that anyone should question the merit of performing what was essentially a back alley 3rd trimester abortion. Yeah they should be able to get those 3rd trimester abortions out in the open. AND the government should cover it, like all the other healthcare they should cover. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:976243158] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>A_Good_Boy posted... </cite><quote>I remember this story. Lots of CEmen were getting mad that anyone should question the merit of performing what was essentially a back alley 3rd trimester abortion.</quote>Yeah they should be able to get those 3rd trimester abortions out in the open.AND the government should cover it, like all the other healthcare they should cover. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 09/22/23 5:21:45 PM #27:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Fair enough, I get your point. Thanks for the answer! --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:976243234] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Fair enough, I get your point. Thanks for the answer! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 09/22/23 5:32:43 PM #30:	hockeybub89 posted... Yeah they should be able to get those 3rd trimester abortions out in the open. AND the government should cover it, like all the other healthcare they should cover. Lol no, you shouldn't get to kill what's essentially a viable baby because you want to get out and party. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:976243452] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>Yeah they should be able to get those 3rd trimester abortions out in the open.AND the government should cover it, like all the other healthcare they should cover.</quote>Lol no, you shouldn't get to kill what's essentially a viable baby because you want to get out and party. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 09/22/23 5:36:16 PM #32:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] If you search you can find the messages between her and her mother. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:976243531] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> If you search you can find the messages between her and her mother. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 09/22/23 5:36:42 PM #33:	A_Good_Boy posted... If you search you can find the messages between her and her mother. What do they say? Can you give a general idea of it? Otherwise, I agree with the people suggesting... You don't just carry a baby to 29 weeks for "fun," so I have to assume there were circumstances that certain people would like to hide. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:976243535] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>A_Good_Boy posted... </cite><quote>If you search you can find the messages between her and her mother.</quote>What do they say? Can you give a general idea of it?Otherwise, I agree with the people suggesting... You don't just carry a baby to 29 weeks for "fun," so I have to assume there were circumstances that certain people would like to hide. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 09/22/23 5:39:22 PM #35:	StealThisSheen posted... What do they say? Can you give a general idea of it? Otherwise, I agree with the people suggesting... You don't just carry a baby to 29 weeks for "fun," so I have to assume there were circumstances that certain people would like to hide. It's been a long time since I visited this case, but one of the messages said that she wanted to feel comfortable in pants again, or something as similarly trivial. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:976243598] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted... </cite><quote>What do they say? Can you give a general idea of it?Otherwise, I agree with the people suggesting... You don't just carry a baby to 29 weeks for "fun," so I have to assume there were circumstances that certain people would like to hide.</quote>It's been a long time since I visited this case, but one of the messages said that she wanted to feel comfortable in pants again, or something as similarly trivial. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BewmHedshot 09/22/23 5:40:38 PM #36:	StealThisSheen posted... What do they say? Can you give a general idea of it? Otherwise, I agree with the people suggesting... You don't just carry a baby to 29 weeks for "fun," so I have to assume there were circumstances that certain people would like to hide. Like maybe: BewmHedshot posted... Presumably the abusive partner who knocked her up. <cite>BewmHedshot posted [p:976243618] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted... </cite><quote>What do they say? Can you give a general idea of it?Otherwise, I agree with the people suggesting... You don't just carry a baby to 29 weeks for "fun," so I have to assume there were circumstances that certain people would like to hide.</quote>Like maybe:BewmHedshot posted... </cite><quote>Presumably the abusive partner who knocked her up.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 09/22/23 5:40:49 PM #37:	A_Good_Boy posted... It's been a long time since I visited this case, but one of the messages said that she wanted to feel comfortable in pants again, or something as similarly trivial. If she literally ONLY had the abortion for superficial reasons, then it's a "Fair, next." That said, I'll need to look into this further to confirm. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:976243623] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>A_Good_Boy posted... </cite><quote>It's been a long time since I visited this case, but one of the messages said that she wanted to feel comfortable in pants again, or something as similarly trivial.</quote>If she literally ONLY had the abortion for superficial reasons, then it's a "Fair, next." That said, I'll need to look into this further to confirm. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 09/22/23 5:41:00 PM #38:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] IIRC, this lady did her 3rd trimester abortion long before there was an abortion ban in place. She could have easily went and had the procedure done before it got the point where she was murdering what was essentially a viable infant. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:976243630] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> IIRC, this lady did her 3rd trimester abortion long before there was an abortion ban in place. She could have easily went and had the procedure done before it got the point where she was murdering what was essentially a viable infant. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 09/22/23 5:41:59 PM #40:	BewmHedshot posted... Like maybe: I feel like if it was purely abusive, it wouldn't have taken until 29 weeks for the abortion to happen, considering it was legal up to 20 weeks. That said, there are very few cases where I feel like it should have been a "crime," anyway, even beyond 20 weeks, which is why I'm asking for details. EDIT: There is a reason why I'm now defaulting to the prosecution/sentence being dumb. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:976243650] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>BewmHedshot posted... </cite><quote>Like maybe:</quote>I feel like if it was purely abusive, it wouldn't have taken until 29 weeks for the abortion to happen, considering it was legal up to 20 weeks. That said, there are very few cases where I feel like it should have been a "crime," anyway, even beyond 20 weeks, which is why I'm asking for details.EDIT: There is a reason why I'm now defaulting to the prosecution/sentence being dumb. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Starks 09/22/23 5:45:09 PM #42:	Abortions that late should not be elective or occur outside of medical facilities. Even if a shitty government forces you into that situation, there are safer options. --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:976243715] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>Abortions that late should not be elective or occur outside of medical facilities.Even if a shitty government forces you into that situation, there are safer options. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VirtuousWrath 09/22/23 5:45:53 PM #43:	The only moral abortion that late into a pregnancy is if the mother's life is in danger or the fetus has become non-viable. Otherwise, holy fucking shit, that's fucked up. --- "I sung of chaos and eternal night, taught by the heav'nly muse to venture down the dark descent, and up to reascend... <cite>VirtuousWrath posted [p:976243731] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>The only moral abortion that late into a pregnancy is if the mother's life is in danger or the fetus has become non-viable.Otherwise, holy fucking shit, that's fucked up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dioxxys 09/22/23 5:46:10 PM #44:	Aborting such a late term baby is questionable and so is the way they got rid of the remains? If they went to a hospital and passed it there would it still have got them in trouble? If so I understand why they did it in such a skeezy way. Final words on abortion though is still as it's always been, abortion is a human right. I don't know why some old men in a room were allowed to change this without widespread voting. No one should be forced to raise a child they aren't prepared to raise financially, mentally or in some cases physically. I would have had a son long ago if having offspring wasn't such a financially unviable way to live. <cite>dioxxys posted [p:976243740] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>Aborting such a late term baby is questionable and so is the way they got rid of the remains? If they went to a hospital and passed it there would it still have got them in trouble? If so I understand why they did it in such a skeezy way.Final words on abortion though is still as it's always been, abortion is a human right. I don't know why some old men in a room were allowed to change this without widespread voting. No one should be forced to raise a child they aren't prepared to raise financially, mentally or in some cases physically. I would have had a son long ago if having offspring wasn't such a financially unviable way to live. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 09/22/23 5:48:27 PM #46:	To be clear on my stance, I get that current abortion laws put a LOT of unnecessary pressure on the woman, and it more likely leads to problems than not. That said, in a state that, atleast at the time, had up to 20 weeks being legal, 29 weeks feels VERY late. That's why I'm trying to find out details, because I fully do believe certain circumstances lead to why she may have sought it so late, but also, if those circumstances were frivolous, then that chances things. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:976243796] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>To be clear on my stance, I get that current abortion laws put a LOT of unnecessary pressure on the woman, and it more likely leads to problems than not. That said, in a state that, atleast at the time, had up to 20 weeks being legal, 29 weeks feels VERY late. That's why I'm trying to find out details, because I fully do believe certain circumstances lead to why she may have sought it so late, but also, if those circumstances were frivolous, then that chances things. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIII 09/22/23 6:11:07 PM #47:	Did we get to 29 weeks due to how many hoops people have to jump depending on what state they live in? --- Advice from a dryer: Open the door to amazement. Don't shrink from your true calling. Accept life's wrinkles. Avoid overload. Reach into mystery! <cite>Will_VIII posted [p:976244263] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>Did we get to 29 weeks due to how many hoops people have to jump depending on what state they live in? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CobraGT 09/22/23 6:13:31 PM #48:	Facebook provided evidence. She was visibly pregnant. Someone who saw her before and after got the process started and Facebook did the rest? Plus what kind of defense could she afford? I doubt that there was sufficient evidence. "Court documents in the case revealed that Facebooks parent company Meta supplied police with the private Facebook messages that Celeste and Jessica Burgess had sent one another. In one message, Celeste told Jessica: 'Remember we burn the evidence.'" --- GoldenSun/Crossbone Isle diagrams/ 18 teams known https://photobucket.com/u/SwordOfWheat/a/9990a2ee-25f3-4242-ae79-7d2d4b882be4 <cite>CobraGT posted [p:976244306] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>Facebook provided evidence. She was visibly pregnant. Someone who saw her before and after got the process started and Facebook did the rest? Plus what kind of defense could she afford? I doubt that there was sufficient evidence."Court documents in the case revealed that Facebooks parent company Meta supplied police with the private Facebook messages that Celeste and Jessica Burgess had sent one another. In one message, Celeste told Jessica: 'Remember we burn the evidence.'" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 09/22/23 6:14:39 PM #49:	Will_VIII posted... Did we get to 29 weeks due to how many hoops people have to jump depending on what state they live in? All we can tell from basic articles is that, at the time, up to 20 weeks was completely legal. Details beyond that appear to be scarce. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:976244325] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>Will_VIII posted... </cite><quote>Did we get to 29 weeks due to how many hoops people have to jump depending on what state they live in?</quote>All we can tell from basic articles is that, at the time, up to 20 weeks was completely legal. Details beyond that appear to be scarce. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PballDepot 09/22/23 6:14:45 PM #50:	2 yrs, that's more than some get for drunk driving manslaughter --- https://youtu.be/Nysb-m49Ol0?si=qo6rSvX3qdRngnMV <cite>PballDepot posted [p:976244328] in US mother ... [t:80574289]...</cite> <quote>2 yrs, that's more than some get for drunk driving manslaughter </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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