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Zikten
08/28/23 3:12:42 PM
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https://lawandcrime.com/crime/absolutely-devastating-for-everyone-florida-mom-murdered-son-and-daughter-in-mobile-home-after-losing-custody-battle/

She had a 10 year old son and a 19 year old daughter. She lost custody to the dad, of the son. She was supposed to hand the son over by Friday evening but didn't. Cops found all 3 inside a mobile home, dead. She had killed her son and also her adult daughter, and then herself

The father of the son (not sure if the daughter was his too) is devastated
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MedeaLysistrata
08/28/23 3:14:48 PM
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<_<

Tragic but it makes me think of Medea the character

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TimeForAction
08/28/23 3:17:16 PM
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Florida
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Tyranthraxus
08/28/23 3:18:04 PM
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Kids should have been in foster care during the custody fights. What a terrible shit thing for the father.

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Kaldrenthebold
08/28/23 3:18:28 PM
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Just tragic. Hope she rots in whatever depths of hell exists.

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Prestoff
08/28/23 3:18:29 PM
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As much as I want to make a "Florida Woman" joke, this is fucking devastating. My hear it out to the father, I wouldn't know how I would react to this sudden news if it were to happen to me.

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Dreepapult
08/31/23 8:04:06 AM
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What a fucking psychopath holy shit

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Zanzenburger
08/31/23 8:20:06 AM
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When I was a foster parent, the case worker who did our monthly visits dinged us because our house "smelled like dog". Yes, because we owned two dogs. Apparently, a dog smell was grounds for a write-up, which we had to have corrected within a week or they would remove the foster kids from our home.

Foster parents are held to almost impossible standards to raise kids that aren't theirs, with all sorts of psychological issues from past trauma, yet biological parents are given an insane amount of leeway where things like this can happen.

Stories like these just piss me off, as we fostered due to not being able to have kids of our own, and the system put us through hell for something we volunteered to do. And then you have parents like this who cannot appreciate the kids they do have, and care more about themselves and "winning" than the kids they supposedly fought so hard to keep. And the system often enables this kind of behavior with the number of chances bio parents are given to clean themselves up.

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the_pika
08/31/23 8:21:29 AM
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Zanzenburger posted...
When I was a foster parent, the case worker who did our monthly visits dinged us because our house "smelled like dog". Yes, because we owned two dogs. Apparently, a dog smell was grounds for a write-up, which we had to have corrected within a week or they would remove the foster kids from our home.

Foster parents are held to almost impossible standards to raise kids that aren't theirs, with all sorts of psychological issues from past trauma, yet biological parents are given an insane amount of leeway where things like this can happen.

Stories like these just piss me off, as we fostered due to not being able to have kids of our own, and the system put us through hell for something we volunteered to do. And then you have parents like this who cannot appreciate the kids they do have, and care more about themselves and "winning" than the kids they supposedly fought so hard to keep. And the system often enables this kind of behavior with the number of chances bio parents are given to clean themselves up.

well said
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Vengeance29
08/31/23 8:38:39 AM
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Why kill the adult daughter? That's like the proverbial cherry on the shit cake.
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dioxxys
08/31/23 8:39:53 AM
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Vengeance29 posted...
Why kill the adult daughter? That's like the proverbial cherry on the shit cake.
Why kill anyone
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Dreepapult
08/31/23 8:40:24 AM
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Vengeance29 posted...
Why kill the adult daughter? That's like the proverbial cherry on the shit cake.
Because she's a nutty fucking shit bird man

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
08/31/23 8:50:31 AM
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She did this to hurt the husband and do the most and worst damage possible to him. This is the kind of evil thing she could have done all due to losing custody.

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Aztex
08/31/23 8:52:36 AM
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
She did this to hurt the husband and do the most and worst damage possible to him. This is the kind of evil thing she could have done all due to losing custody.



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DeadBankerDream
08/31/23 8:56:55 AM
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I remember like ten years ago there was a case like this. A guy asked advice on reddit on how to deal with his cheating wife who was blackmailing him to just stick it out or she'd sue for custody, or something to that effect. Reddit adviced him to go through with a divorce and he died and he sued her for custody, I think. The wife then murdered the children.

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Hayame_Zero
08/31/23 8:58:36 AM
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Zanzenburger posted...
When I was a foster parent, the case worker who did our monthly visits dinged us because our house "smelled like dog". Yes, because we owned two dogs. Apparently, a dog smell was grounds for a write-up, which we had to have corrected within a week or they would remove the foster kids from our home.

Foster parents are held to almost impossible standards to raise kids that aren't theirs, with all sorts of psychological issues from past trauma, yet biological parents are given an insane amount of leeway where things like this can happen.

Stories like these just piss me off, as we fostered due to not being able to have kids of our own, and the system put us through hell for something we volunteered to do. And then you have parents like this who cannot appreciate the kids they do have, and care more about themselves and "winning" than the kids they supposedly fought so hard to keep. And the system often enables this kind of behavior with the number of chances bio parents are given to clean themselves up.
Yeah, one of the workers found dog poop on the front porch, and wrote that up.

My parents ended up losing my two foster brothers that we had custody of for a few years when we were a couple of months from adoption.

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CyricZ
08/31/23 9:06:08 AM
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Vengeance29 posted...
Why kill the adult daughter? That's like the proverbial cherry on the shit cake.
Because she views her children as her property, and thus felt if she couldn't have them, no one should.

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streamofthesky
08/31/23 9:15:06 AM
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Sadly not uncommon for the mom to murder the kids when she loses custody to the dad.
It's fucking vile.
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DeadBankerDream
08/31/23 9:16:27 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
Sadly not uncommon for the mom to murder the kids when she loses custody to the dad.
It's fucking vile.
I think it's rather uncommon.

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Dark_Arbron
08/31/23 9:17:54 AM
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I'd be interested to see if "the mother usually gets the kids" is actually backed up by statistics or if it's just one of those old pieces of "common knowledge."

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spikethedevil
08/31/23 9:20:38 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
Sadly not uncommon for the mom to murder the kids when she loses custody to the dad.
It's fucking vile.

Back up your BS or fuck off.

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Ruvan22
08/31/23 9:28:32 AM
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Zanzenburger posted...
When I was a foster parent, the case worker who did our monthly visits dinged us because our house "smelled like dog". Yes, because we owned two dogs. Apparently, a dog smell was grounds for a write-up, which we had to have corrected within a week or they would remove the foster kids from our home.

Foster parents are held to almost impossible standards to raise kids that aren't theirs, with all sorts of psychological issues from past trauma, yet biological parents are given an insane amount of leeway where things like this can happen.

Stories like these just piss me off, as we fostered due to not being able to have kids of our own, and the system put us through hell for something we volunteered to do. And then you have parents like this who cannot appreciate the kids they do have, and care more about themselves and "winning" than the kids they supposedly fought so hard to keep. And the system often enables this kind of behavior with the number of chances bio parents are given to clean themselves up.

I worked for a group that provided services to children in foster homes - the large disparity in their affection really surprised me. Some like you really put heart into the kids that were temporarily with them.. some not so much :/

If you don't mind me asking, why did you stop?
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streamofthesky
08/31/23 9:35:54 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
Back up your BS or fuck off.
*sigh* to the google machine, it is

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2023/03/15/why-mother-accused-of-killing-3-of-her-children-in-italy-texas-was-set-to-lose-custody/

https://news4sanantonio.com/news/local/records-shed-light-on-custody-battle-police-say-drove-mother-to-kill-young-children

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-woman-killed-children-sentenced-20160108-story.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/julissa-thaler-convicted-killing-6-year-old-son-eli-hart-minnesota/

https://www.nbcchicago.com/investigations/woman-charged-in-6-year-old-sons-death-previously-lost-custody-of-children-for-3-years-dcfs-says/2726378/

And one of the most infamous cases, because it started off as a simple reddit post by the husband about how awful the wife was (abuse/infidelity) and being advised to leave her, leading to him divorcing her and then she murdered the kids b/c she was going to lose the custody battle.

https://www.ajc.com/news/national/mom-who-killed-kids-after-husband-asked-for-divorce-gets-120-years-prison/YptRSHMXhqFZpvZb0XWFmL/

https://www.reddit.com/r/MuseumOfReddit/comments/ubne00/the_post_that_led_to_the_real_life_tragedy_of_a/

Just some quick examples from google searching. Stories like this come up disturbingly often. But I know I could spend more time for triple the links and you'd still cry, "anecdotal!" even though all I said was it's "not uncommon".
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Dreepapult
08/31/23 9:37:21 AM
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Or I've seen cases where the wife got the dog in the divorce and then had it put down

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godofwar596
08/31/23 10:39:57 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
I remember like ten years ago there was a case like this. A guy asked advice on reddit on how to deal with his cheating wife who was blackmailing him to just stick it out or she'd sue for custody, or something to that effect. Reddit adviced him to go through with a divorce and he died and he sued her for custody, I think. The wife then murdered the children.
You mean did instead of died right? But yea I remember this, hope he nor the redditors feel guilty over that. Also how the fuck is custody even a thing with an adult child? Pretty sure as an adult she can choose herself who to live with unless she was handicapped or had some sort of mental illness.

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godofwar596
08/31/23 10:41:46 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
*sigh* to the google machine, it is

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2023/03/15/why-mother-accused-of-killing-3-of-her-children-in-italy-texas-was-set-to-lose-custody/

https://news4sanantonio.com/news/local/records-shed-light-on-custody-battle-police-say-drove-mother-to-kill-young-children

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-woman-killed-children-sentenced-20160108-story.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/julissa-thaler-convicted-killing-6-year-old-son-eli-hart-minnesota/

https://www.nbcchicago.com/investigations/woman-charged-in-6-year-old-sons-death-previously-lost-custody-of-children-for-3-years-dcfs-says/2726378/

And one of the most infamous cases, because it started off as a simple reddit post by the husband about how awful the wife was (abuse/infidelity) and being advised to leave her, leading to him divorcing her and then she murdered the kids b/c she was going to lose the custody battle.

https://www.ajc.com/news/national/mom-who-killed-kids-after-husband-asked-for-divorce-gets-120-years-prison/YptRSHMXhqFZpvZb0XWFmL/

https://www.reddit.com/r/MuseumOfReddit/comments/ubne00/the_post_that_led_to_the_real_life_tragedy_of_a/

Just some quick examples from google searching. Stories like this come up disturbingly often. But I know I could spend more time for triple the links and you'd still cry, "anecdotal!" even though all I said was it's "not uncommon".
no offense but 6 examples out of hundreds if not thousands of cases isnt what id call common. If anything it shows how rare it really is

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
08/31/23 10:50:49 AM
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Dreepapult posted...
Or I've seen cases where the wife got the dog in the divorce and then had it put down
That is the kind of evil that is provoking the other person to murder the shit out of them.

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Cocytus
08/31/23 10:56:09 AM
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More than sad.

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ThePieReborn
08/31/23 11:01:24 AM
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This was always in the back of my mind when I was drafting appellate opinions as a judicial clerk for divorce appeals, especially when the divorce was very contentious.

People do cruel and stupid things.

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ForsakenHermit
09/01/23 11:00:18 PM
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Medea isn't supposed to be a manual for revenge, Crazy ****.

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DKBananaSlamma
09/02/23 9:05:21 PM
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What the fuck

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