Poll of the Day > I got a new cell phone and it has no SD card slot or headphone jack

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argonautweakend
08/26/23 11:16:05 AM
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My sister asked if I wanted to join her plan. I said yes because unlimited data means I will save money over what I use now.

However, the phone I got doesn't have either. I should have done my research first but that's on me. I just forgot. Opting for Android over Apple had me thinking I didn't need to worry, but again my fault for not doing more research into the phone I was getting.

This is kind of stupid if you ask me, because the only reasons I can figure they would remove these options is to save money and gain money so you can pay for dongles and storage services.

So, I effectively cannot listen to music on this thing, as I refuse to use a dongle to connect my headphones and no SD card slot means I can't bring my music to it, also for the headphone reason I wouldn't even bother.

Now, I know I just went on about how the remove these features to make you pay more money in the end, but this is actually going to be the motivator to buy myself a digital audio player again. I was using my old cell phone for this purpose, and I am keeping it now until I get a DAP.

People said using a cell phone as a digital audio player was just as good. I knew it wouldn't be but to save money I did go that route. It was pretty terrible in many ways, and not really better in any except not needing to carry two devices.

This is exciting!!! Or an alternative I can try to get my Fiio X2 to work again. It keeps freezing on the welcome screen and I haven't found a fix. Either way, the possibilities excite me!
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Metalsonic66
08/26/23 11:50:24 AM
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You can get a USB C to AUX adapter for pretty cheap if you still want to use headphones or play music in your car or whatever. I was also annoyed when I "upgraded" my phone recently.

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argonautweakend
08/26/23 11:54:32 AM
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but then what if i wanted to listen to music while charging my phone? Not being a dick I am just legitimately curious, because that is a solution but it is kind of a dumb one, but if it's the only real option....
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rjsilverthorn
08/26/23 12:02:26 PM
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argonautweakend posted...
but then what if i wanted to listen to music while charging my phone? Not being a dick I am just legitimately curious, because that is a solution but it is kind of a dumb one, but if it's the only real option....
I've never used one, but I'm fairly sure they do have dual adapters with a female 3.5 audio jack and a female usb-c connector. It was a big deal when Apple first removed audio jacks so there was a lot of tech coverage on solutions.
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captpackrat
08/26/23 12:04:00 PM
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argonautweakend posted...
but then what if i wanted to listen to music while charging my phone?
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/4/6/AAQwHjAAEyT2.jpg

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SwollenColon
08/26/23 12:05:36 PM
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Thanks packie i didn't know those were a thing gonna cop one
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argonautweakend
08/26/23 12:06:28 PM
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I'm sorry but to me this is just so....stupid.

I ain't gonna boomer rant any more but this is all just yikes to me.
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Metalsonic66
08/26/23 12:24:58 PM
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argonautweakend posted...
but then what if i wanted to listen to music while charging my phone? Not being a dick I am just legitimately curious, because that is a solution but it is kind of a dumb one, but if it's the only real option....
There are splitters for that

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SilentSeph
08/26/23 12:27:54 PM
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argonautweakend posted...
but then what if i wanted to listen to music while charging my phone? Not being a dick I am just legitimately curious, because that is a solution but it is kind of a dumb one, but if it's the only real option....
Bluetooth headphones

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ReturnOfFa
08/26/23 1:00:31 PM
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Get bluetooth headphones. I think it's all pretty stupid too, but that's kinda the option.

What's the internal storage? 64? 128?

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ReturnOfFa
08/26/23 1:01:01 PM
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argonautweakend posted...
I'm sorry but to me this is just so....stupid.

I ain't gonna boomer rant any more but this is all just yikes to me.
been going on for years.

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argonautweakend
08/26/23 1:02:00 PM
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It's 128. My sd card is 256

My solution is going to in fact be the most expensive one yet: if I can't get my Fiio X2 running again, I'm going to buy a digital audio player. Besides, that's what I've really wanted this entire time. It may not make sense to some, but they may not make sense to me.

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ReturnOfFa
08/26/23 1:04:56 PM
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argonautweakend posted...
It's 128. My sd card is 256

My solution is going to in fact be the most expensive one yet: if I can't get my Fiio X2 running again, I'm going to buy a digital audio player. Besides, that's what I've really wanted this entire time. It may not make sense to some, but they may not make sense to me.
I've had little cheapo MP3 players that take SD cards, they're pretty dandy. They'll even have bluetooth and the ability to play FLAC.

This is kindof a roundabout solution, but I used to host all my music from my PC on an emby server. I was able to access it wherever I went. It's free.

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Shrek
08/26/23 1:08:57 PM
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i just use a modded Spotify APK and just have free infinite music

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McSame_as_Bush
08/26/23 1:34:05 PM
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No SD slot seems to be the future, because companies seem to think that everyone just wants to store their shit in the cloud. For those who don't, it forces consumers to purchase a more expensive model.

Edit: Actually looks like it's the present. I haven't updated since 2020, so I'm a little behind the times lol

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ReturnOfFa
08/26/23 1:49:34 PM
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I like the cheapo MP3 players since they're like $30-$40, but my buddy had one of these and liked it.

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07VWK4FP3/?coliid=I1KVTZ70NHFODZ&colid=SB1PGYQJO77W&psc=1&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it

I don't really like the SD card size limit though.

Here are some cheapos I'm looking at that allow up to 1TB expansion via SD:
https://www.amazon.ca/Bluetooth-Spotify-Android-Pandora-Red-Black/dp/B0BWHLKBXS/ref=sr_1_8?crid=27UAFKPAQNAMH&keywords=mp3%2Bplayer&qid=1693072072&sprefix=mp3%2Bplaye%2Caps%2C184&sr=8-8&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.b06bdbbe-20fd-4ebc-88cf-fa04f1ca0da8&th=1

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agesboy
08/26/23 1:55:47 PM
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if you didn't trade in your old phone, you can still just use that one for media

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jsb0714
08/26/23 2:10:25 PM
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This shit isn't new. Did TC come from under a rock?
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Shrek
08/26/23 5:27:45 PM
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dude just get some cheap earbuds

you might think using some dedicated music device sounds neat

you're going to use it one single time and then just use your phone afterwards. promise.

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Yellow
08/26/23 6:14:04 PM
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I was going to make a topic making fun of people like you but I forgot, so I'll settle for less attention.

The LTT headphone jack removal controversy was probably the biggest overreaction to any new technology I've ever seen. I was on the bandwagon as well until I realized that it just does not matter at all.

Literally stick the adapter on your favorite headset and never think about it again. There is literally no reason to complain about the missing headphone jack, and they constantly break anyway. I would also remove them for 2% more phone power or whatever.

argonautweakend posted...
So, I effectively cannot listen to music on this thing, as I refuse to use a dongle to connect my headphones and no SD card slot means I can't bring my music to it, also for the headphone reason I wouldn't even bother.
judgementl levels of self-inflicted anguish

You have unlimited data. Use youtube music or spotify.
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argonautweakend
08/26/23 10:55:51 PM
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agesboy posted...
if you didn't trade in your old phone, you can still just use that one for media

The screen is cracked. I've been fine with it but time to move on.

I have used digital audio players concurrently with phones and have used them a lot, so I definitely wouldn't use it once and stop. other than needing a second device(which doesnt bother me) it'll suit my needs better than something like my last phone did.

I also do not use streaming. I have thousands of high quality audio files on an sd card and my PC hard drive. Some of this music isn't on streaming, and I very rarely wish I had a song at my disposal that I do not already have downloaded. If I do, there is youtube. Doesn't help me while driving as I can't be distracted like that but it is good enough.

The ones I have had before were set up in such a way with tactile keys that I could be listening to random, switch songs, want to listen to that band or album on its own, and switch all of that without ever needing to look at the screen, though I would need to skip over songs if I wanted one off the album only. My phone couldn't do that because the side volume keys were exclusively for volume, and not track control which I would have wanted. I couldn't change them in the app I was using(poweramp) without doing some system stuff to the OS(I think). There are reasons I want a dedicated digital audio player that are more than just being a curmudgeonly asshole, I promise.

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argonautweakend
08/26/23 10:58:38 PM
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The whole headphone jack thing is stupid to me because an adapter is just another dumb thing you have to buy that you didn't always have to buy. That's most of the complaint, because headphones are not obsolete technology but they make them slightly harder to use. I didn't give a shit when they stopped shoving a CD drive into everything.
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agesboy
08/26/23 11:59:56 PM
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argonautweakend posted...
Some of this music isn't on streaming, and I very rarely wish I had a song at my disposal that I do not already have downloaded.
128GB is still a pretty colossal amount of music. Assuming each song is average 10MB, that's about 12000 songs. Anything larger than that is probably lossless, you can just convert those to .mp3 or something.

argonautweakend posted...
The ones I have had before were set up in such a way with tactile keys that I could be listening to random, switch songs, want to listen to that band or album on its own, and switch all of that without ever needing to look at the screen, though I would need to skip over songs if I wanted one off the album only.
You won't be permanently missing these features because you can find bluetooth products with the same functions- probably more, as time goes on.

argonautweakend posted...
That's most of the complaint, because headphones are not obsolete technology but they make them slightly harder to use.
I'd argue wired audio is very much on the verge of being obsolesced for phone audio, though. It's nice QoL as a feature to have if you personally value it, but most people these days don't. So you have to look for specific models that still do have it.

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faramir77
08/27/23 1:29:08 AM
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The collective removal of the headphone jack from virtually every manufacturer was a giant "fuck you" to consumers.

I had to replace my pre-pandemic phone last year with one made in 2021 and for the first time ever, I noticed a MAJOR drop in quality. The lack of a headphone jack was just one of the things.

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agesboy
08/27/23 1:39:04 AM
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faramir77 posted...
and for the first time ever, I noticed a MAJOR drop in quality.
from what to what

i got some more expensive bluetooth headphones and my ears are still having a great time. my previous stuff was pretty old tho

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Shrek
08/27/23 1:40:02 AM
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faramir77 posted...
The collective removal of the headphone jack from virtually every manufacturer was a giant "fuck you" to consumers.

I had to replace my pre-pandemic phone last year with one made in 2021 and for the first time ever, I noticed a MAJOR drop in quality. The lack of a headphone jack was just one of the things.
what phone did you have, and what did you replace it with

this matters.

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faramir77
08/27/23 1:43:24 AM
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agesboy posted...
from what to what

Galaxy S8 to Pixel 6.

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Shrek
08/27/23 1:48:43 AM
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the s8 is the better device in that situation

pixels are good phones, the 6 being a sort of misnomer, but the flagship galaxy phones are still much better than them

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ReturnOfFa
08/27/23 1:39:44 PM
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It's true that Bluetooth is nowhere near lossless so you're going to take a hit on audio quality compared to headphones. Wired headphones are not on their way out in regards to recording studios.

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Nichtcrawler-X
08/27/23 5:28:19 PM
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Yellow posted...
There is literally no reason to complain about the missing headphone jack, and they constantly break anyway.

Headphone jack breaking is a new one for me. What does one have to do with a phone to even accomplish that?

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MagicalPrincess
08/27/23 6:07:45 PM
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There's no excuse whatsoever to remove the headphone jack. Completely unacceptable.

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Yellow
08/27/23 7:33:54 PM
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Nichtcrawler-X posted...
Headphone jack breaking is a new one for me. What does one have to do with a phone to even accomplish that?
Teach me your god powers where your audio jack doesn't lose contact with any headphones after 1 year of daily use.

I'm serious. Tell me what you do. Please.
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Shrek
08/27/23 7:39:19 PM
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bruh it's definitely you doing something to them if it can't even last a year

the iPod first gen I daily drove for years still had its headphones jack work fine up until i finally threw it away

yours probably just need cleaned out lmao

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Yellow
08/27/23 7:43:02 PM
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Shrek posted...
yours probably just need cleaned out lmao
How do you clean it?

Me 15 years ago would have killed to know this.
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Shrek
08/27/23 7:49:03 PM
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you take a thin object like a needle

and just start digging shit out

hell, do it to your phones charging port, bet the cable will fit better

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EvilResident
08/27/23 9:07:28 PM
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argonautweakend posted...
but then what if i wanted to listen to music while charging my phone? Not being a dick I am just legitimately curious, because that is a solution but it is kind of a dumb one, but if it's the only real option....
How often do you actually do that

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