Current Events > Study: homeless people aren't moving to California

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Antifar 07/18/23 12:36:42 PM #1:	They're largely California residents who could no longer afford homes there https://twitter.com/doctorow/status/1679124180334256128 https://homelessness.ucsf.edu/our-impact/our-studies/california-statewide-study-people-experiencing-homelessness --- Please don't be weird in my topics <cite>Antifar posted [p:974915747] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>They're largely California residents who could no longer afford homes therehttps://twitter.com/doctorow/status/1679124180334256128https://homelessness.ucsf.edu/our-impact/our-studies/california-statewide-study-people-experiencing-homelessness</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bluezero 07/18/23 12:38:05 PM #2:	This needed a study? --- i7-12700F - 3080 - 32GB 3200 - 1440p Ultrawide <cite>bluezero posted [p:974915780] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>This needed a study?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 07/18/23 12:38:41 PM #3:	Was....was that a thing people were actually saying? --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:974915788] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>Was....was that a thing people were actually saying? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kai_Laguna 07/18/23 12:38:44 PM #4:	I mean, only people that don't live here didn't know that. <cite>Kai_Laguna posted [p:974915791] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>I mean, only people that don't live here didn't know that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyborgSage00x0 07/18/23 12:39:13 PM #5:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... Was....was that a thing people were actually saying? --- PotD's resident Film Expert. <cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted [p:974915801] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>RchHomieQuanChi posted... </cite><quote>Was....was that a thing people were actually saying?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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noisetank 07/18/23 12:41:17 PM #7:	no shit? --- Grim Reaper: "Your time has come" Xsquader: "sir whats your badge number?" <cite>noisetank posted [p:974915837] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>no shit?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/18/23 12:43:04 PM #8:	bluezero posted... This needed a study? It's good to have evidence, even for things that seem obvious or common sense. --- Please don't be weird in my topics <cite>Antifar posted [p:974915880] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>bluezero posted... </cite><quote>This needed a study?</quote>It's good to have evidence, even for things that seem obvious or common sense. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 07/18/23 12:43:30 PM #9:	The study's a counter to a right wing narrative that "generous" social benefits attract "social delinquencies" like homelessness. --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:974915889] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>The study's a counter to a right wing narrative that "generous" social benefits attract "social delinquencies" like homelessness. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AP3Brain 07/18/23 12:43:49 PM #10:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... Was....was that a thing people were actually saying? You hear this type of shit from boomers all the time. They think large masses of homeless people are migrating to cities that provide services for them despite there being no evidence of this. <cite>AP3Brain posted [p:974915893] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>RchHomieQuanChi posted... </cite><quote>Was....was that a thing people were actually saying?</quote>You hear this type of shit from boomers all the time. They think large masses of homeless people are migrating to cities that provide services for them despite there being no evidence of this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/18/23 12:44:29 PM #11:	brestugo posted... The study's a counter to a right wing narrative that "generous" social benefits attract "social delinquencies" like homelessness. It's also a counter to the common complaint that homelessness is bad in CA because surrounding red states send their homeless there. Which means it's California's own policies causing their massive homelessness problem. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:974915905] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>brestugo posted... </cite><quote>The study's a counter to a right wing narrative that "generous" social benefits attract "social delinquencies" like homelessness.</quote>It's also a counter to the common complaint that homelessness is bad in CA because surrounding red states send their homeless there. Which means it's California's own policies causing their massive homelessness problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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brestugo 07/18/23 12:48:23 PM #13:	s0nicfan posted... It's also a counter to the common complaint that homelessness is bad in CA because surrounding red states send their homeless there. Which means it's California's own policies causing their massive homelessness problem. States are sending homeless to CA though. The real issue is corporations and banks (often foreign) getting into real estate and pricing for profit, not people. CA real estate is a goldmine. --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:974915979] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite><quote>It's also a counter to the common complaint that homelessness is bad in CA because surrounding red states send their homeless there. Which means it's California's own policies causing their massive homelessness problem.</quote>States are sending homeless to CA though. The real issue is corporations and banks (often foreign) getting into real estate and pricing for profit, not people. CA real estate is a goldmine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Torgo 07/18/23 12:49:42 PM #14:	bluezero posted... This needed a study? Yes, because the far right were spreading their usual weaponized misinformation to promote the BLUE STATE BAD!!! narrative. --- If what you believe is truthful and just, you shouldn't have to posture as someone or something else. <cite>Torgo posted [p:974916004] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>bluezero posted... </cite><quote>This needed a study?</quote>Yes, because the far right were spreading their usual weaponized misinformation to promote the BLUE STATE BAD!!! narrative.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem-man 07/18/23 12:50:23 PM #15:	s0nicfan posted... It's also a counter to the common complaint that homelessness is bad in CA because surrounding red states send their homeless there. Which means it's California's own policies causing their massive homelessness problem. Specifically, they're horrible housing policy of the last couple decades. They're hiding policy of building no housing --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate <cite>emblem-man posted [p:974916011] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite><quote>It's also a counter to the common complaint that homelessness is bad in CA because surrounding red states send their homeless there. Which means it's California's own policies causing their massive homelessness problem.</quote>Specifically, they're horrible housing policy of the last couple decades. They're hiding policy of building no housing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 07/18/23 12:55:55 PM #17:	Torgo posted... Yes, because the far right were spreading their usual weaponized misinformation to promote the BLUE STATE BAD!!! narrative. Wasn't it the left spreading misinformation about how red states were sending all their homeless to Cali? --- Oda break tracker 2022- 13 (3) \| THE Ohio State:11-1 \| Las Vegas Raiders: 6-9 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:974916118] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>Torgo posted... </cite><quote>Yes, because the far right were spreading their usual weaponized misinformation to promote the BLUE STATE BAD!!! narrative.</quote>Wasn't it the left spreading misinformation about how red states were sending all their homeless to Cali?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McMarbles 07/18/23 12:56:56 PM #18:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... Was....was that a thing people were actually saying? People were saying it. Many people were saying it. --- Currently playing: Stardew Valley (Switch) Never befriend a man in sandals and always measure twice, cut once. <cite>McMarbles posted [p:974916138] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>RchHomieQuanChi posted... </cite><quote>Was....was that a thing people were actually saying?</quote>People were saying it. Many people were saying it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaldrenthebold 07/18/23 12:57:25 PM #19:	bluezero posted... This needed a study? You know, people always make flippant comments like this, but the reality is, yes. It is nice to actually have facts and data instead of "it kind of just seems like it". That's how the real world works. --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u223/chocolateFRESH/arts/kraid.png - Thanks GP cosmonaut! http://i.imgur.com/TuJWAR8.jpg <cite>Kaldrenthebold posted [p:974916149] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>bluezero posted... </cite><quote>This needed a study?</quote>You know, people always make flippant comments like this, but the reality is, yes. It is nice to actually have facts and data instead of "it kind of just seems like it". That's how the real world works.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/18/23 1:01:09 PM #20:	Places cheap housing could be built: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/0/1/AAEhCpAAEq1B.jpg ...maybe not the bits of Nevada that are still radioactive from nuclear testing. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:974916240] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>Places cheap housing could be built:https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/0/1/AAEhCpAAEq1B.jpg ...maybe not the bits of Nevada that are still radioactive from nuclear testing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 07/18/23 1:07:22 PM #21:	voldothegr8 posted... Wasn't it the left spreading misinformation about how red states were sending all their homeless to Cali? No one said "all" but states are sending homeless to CA. The most notorious was Nevada which had to pay a large settlement. https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/nevada-settles-homeless-dumping-lawsuit/62120/ States have gotten more clever in hiding it but it still happens. Hell, they're even doing it with migrants now. --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:974916401] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>voldothegr8 posted... </cite><quote>Wasn't it the left spreading misinformation about how red states were sending all their homeless to Cali?</quote>No one said "all" but states are sending homeless to CA. The most notorious was Nevada which had to pay a large settlement.https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/nevada-settles-homeless-dumping-lawsuit/62120/States have gotten more clever in hiding it but it still happens. Hell, they're even doing it with migrants now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 07/18/23 1:11:12 PM #22:	brestugo posted... No one said "all" but states are sending homeless to CA. The most notorious was Nevada which had to pay a large settlement. https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/nevada-settles-homeless-dumping-lawsuit/62120/ States have gotten more clever in hiding it but it still happens. Hell, they're even doing it with migrants now. Well according to this study it's apparently not happening on some grand scale like it's often presented. If no states ever sent their homeless to Cali, it would still be the same massive issue it is now. --- Oda break tracker 2022- 13 (3) \| THE Ohio State:11-1 \| Las Vegas Raiders: 6-9 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:974916492] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>brestugo posted... </cite><quote>No one said "all" but states are sending homeless to CA. The most notorious was Nevada which had to pay a large settlement.https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/nevada-settles-homeless-dumping-lawsuit/62120/States have gotten more clever in hiding it but it still happens. Hell, they're even doing it with migrants now.</quote>Well according to this study it's apparently not happening on some grand scale like it's often presented. If no states ever sent their homeless to Cali, it would still be the same massive issue it is now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 07/18/23 1:15:03 PM #23:	Curious to see a study of the longevity of homelessness in other parts of the country. This cost of living and policy is a big factor are you homeless just die off avoiding high volume --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:974916586] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>Curious to see a study of the longevity of homelessness in other parts of the country. This cost of living and policy is a big factor are you homeless just die off avoiding high volume</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack 07/18/23 1:18:30 PM #24:	Get it together California --- http://i.imgur.com/plA0Vg9.gif https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif <cite>BignutzisBack posted [p:974916653] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>Get it together California </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/18/23 1:22:57 PM #25:	BignutzisBack posted... Get it together California That's the problem. They're all together in two places. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/2/5/AAEhCpAAEq1Z.jpg Everyone wants to live in LA or the bay area. Nobody wants to live in Amboy. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:974916750] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>BignutzisBack posted... </cite><quote>Get it together California</quote>That's the problem. They're all together in two places.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/2/5/AAEhCpAAEq1Z.jpg Everyone wants to live in LA or the bay area. Nobody wants to live in Amboy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 07/18/23 1:25:31 PM #26:	All I know is that conservatives are to blame --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna *COMBINED!* <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:974916798] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>All I know is that conservatives are to blame </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 07/18/23 1:26:12 PM #27:	voldothegr8 posted... Well according to this study it's apparently not happening on some grand scale like it's often presented. If no states ever sent their homeless to Cali, it would still be the same massive issue it is now. The numbers are difficult to pin down, but the fact remains that bussing homeless in makes the issue harder to solve. --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:974916811] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>voldothegr8 posted... </cite><quote>Well according to this study it's apparently not happening on some grand scale like it's often presented. If no states ever sent their homeless to Cali, it would still be the same massive issue it is now.</quote>The numbers are difficult to pin down, but the fact remains that bussing homeless in makes the issue harder to solve.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Torgo 07/18/23 1:30:14 PM #28:	voldothegr8 posted... Wasn't it the left spreading misinformation about how red states were sending all their homeless to Cali? No. We do have Republican governors literally sending busses of migrants and undocumented workers to "Blue states"... remember that? Although admittedly, that was mostly done as publicity stunts... and it kind of backfired on those republicans doing the human trafficking... I think what you're trying to do is the pedantic binary word game. Some homeless are being driven from Red States into places like California, and many more are being created domestically because of skyrocketing real estate prices. --- If what you believe is truthful and just, you shouldn't have to posture as someone or something else. <cite>Torgo posted [p:974916897] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>voldothegr8 posted... </cite><quote>Wasn't it the left spreading misinformation about how red states were sending all their homeless to Cali?</quote>No.We do have Republican governors literally sending busses of migrants and undocumented workers to "Blue states"... remember that? Although admittedly, that was mostly done as publicity stunts... and it kind of backfired on those republicans doing the human trafficking...I think what you're trying to do is the pedantic binary word game. Some homeless are being driven from Red States into places like California, and many more are being created domestically because of skyrocketing real estate prices.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/18/23 1:32:43 PM #29:	Homeless and indigents migrating to California isn't anything new. There's a rather well-known John Steinbeck book about this, set a hundred years ago. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:974916944] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>Homeless and indigents migrating to California isn't anything new.There's a rather well-known John Steinbeck book about this, set a hundred years ago.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 07/18/23 1:48:57 PM #32:	The implications of the glitz and glamour of poverty and homelessness will never not be fucking stupid. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:974917264] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>The implications of the glitz and glamour of poverty and homelessness will never not be fucking stupid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheShadowViper 07/18/23 1:55:43 PM #33:	This was already well known. Just like most of the things like this, bad actors just lied and lied and lied to try to hide the truth. <cite>TheShadowViper posted [p:974917415] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>This was already well known. Just like most of the things like this, bad actors just lied and lied and lied to try to hide the truth.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lordgold666 07/18/23 2:19:23 PM #34:	Why do they leave so much garbage and litter everywhere? --- "May the Father of Understanding guide you." http://error1355.com/ce/Lordgold666.html <cite>Lordgold666 posted [p:974917917] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>Why do they leave so much garbage and litter everywhere?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem-man 07/18/23 2:56:06 PM #35:	Accompanying podcast [The Ezra Klein Show] What We Learned From the Deepest Look at Homelessness in Decades #theEzraKleinShow https://podcastaddict.com/the-ezra-klein-show/episode/160831068 via @PodcastAddict --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate <cite>emblem-man posted [p:974918685] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>Accompanying podcast [The Ezra Klein Show] What We Learned From the Deepest Look at Homelessness in Decades #theEzraKleinShow https://podcastaddict.com/the-ezra-klein-show/episode/160831068 via @PodcastAddict</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VampireCoyote 07/18/23 3:00:24 PM #36:	Well I came to California to survive homelessness anyone that doesnt like it can go eat a Bavarian pretzel for all I care --- She/her <cite>VampireCoyote posted [p:974918781] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>Well I came to California to survive homelessnessanyone that doesnt like it can go eat a Bavarian pretzel for all I care</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eggcorn 07/18/23 3:22:44 PM #37:	Torgo posted... Yes, because the far right were spreading their usual weaponized misinformation to promote the BLUE STATE BAD!!! narrative. I don't think so. --- Warning: This post may contain triggering or distressing content. <cite>eggcorn posted [p:974919254] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>Torgo posted... </cite><quote>Yes, because the far right were spreading their usual weaponized misinformation to promote the BLUE STATE BAD!!! narrative.</quote>I don't think so.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jerry_Hellyeah 07/18/23 3:26:56 PM #38:	Questionmarktarius posted... Places cheap housing could be built: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/0/1/AAEhCpAAEq1B.jpg ...maybe not the bits of Nevada that are still radioactive from nuclear testing. That's showing that it's not realistic from the get go. If you dont scratch those bits off, what else is making the cut? I mean you dont NEED roads to survive, right? --- This is a cool sig <cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted [p:974919351] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>Places cheap housing could be built:https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/0/1/AAEhCpAAEq1B.jpg ...maybe not the bits of Nevada that are still radioactive from nuclear testing.</quote>That's showing that it's not realistic from the get go. If you dont scratch those bits off, what else is making the cut? I mean you dont NEED roads to survive, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sahel 07/18/23 3:37:07 PM #39:	Questionmarktarius posted... That's the problem. They're all together in two places. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/2/5/AAEhCpAAEq1Z.jpg Everyone wants to live in LA or the bay area. Nobody wants to live in Amboy. Not true, people do want live in Amboy. Like... https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/life-in-a-town-with-a-population-of-four four of them! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3pKcRSmw2w --- "Games don't get worse over time. Only your expectations change. A game from 1999 is going to play the same in 2017." - Vegeta1000 <cite>Sahel posted [p:974919546] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>That's the problem. They're all together in two places.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/2/5/AAEhCpAAEq1Z.jpg Everyone wants to live in LA or the bay area. Nobody wants to live in Amboy.</quote>Not true, people do want live in Amboy. Like...https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/life-in-a-town-with-a-population-of-fourfour of them! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3pKcRSmw2w</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Butterfiles 07/18/23 3:43:33 PM #40:	Yeah I worked for a homeless services nonprofit in SF and it was fairly well known from the research we did that most people were from at least the Bay Area. Not surprised it also extends to the state as a whole. --- http://www.last.fm/user/PigBun CEO of Antifa <cite>Butterfiles posted [p:974919664] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>Yeah I worked for a homeless services nonprofit in SF and it was fairly well known from the research we did that most people were from at least the Bay Area. Not surprised it also extends to the state as a whole.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
__starsnostars 07/18/23 3:48:14 PM #41:	This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Homeless people obviously lack the mobility or means to re-locate across the country. That being said there are documented cases where homeless people are sent to California. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDyXIXyAZq0 Please consider adopting a cat from your SPCA or local animal shelter. <cite>__starsnostars posted [p:974919748] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Homeless people obviously lack the mobility or means to re-locate across the country. That being said there are documented cases where homeless people are sent to California. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FL81 07/18/23 4:10:43 PM #42:	Questionmarktarius posted... ...maybe not the bits of Nevada that are still radioactive from nuclear testing. Arguably those places would be even cheaper! --- https://i.imgur.com/TGkNCva.gif <cite>FL81 posted [p:974920202] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>...maybe not the bits of Nevada that are still radioactive from nuclear testing.</quote>Arguably those places would be even cheaper!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/18/23 11:12:11 PM #43:	Sahel posted... Not true, people do want live in Amboy. Like... https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/life-in-a-town-with-a-population-of-four four of them! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3pKcRSmw2w That's just pedantic, but gloriously so. I like that. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:974927737] in Study: hom... [t:80512158]...</cite> <quote>Sahel posted... </cite><quote>Not true, people do want live in Amboy. Like...https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/life-in-a-town-with-a-population-of-fourfour of them! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3pKcRSmw2w</quote>That's just pedantic, but gloriously so.I like that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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