Board 8 > Gamefaq Mafia Mafia Topic 4. Blood, Sweat, and Beers?

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After another successful of killing yet another Mafia Member the palace seemed at peace. Most people went to their rooms some stayed up for a drink. One of you retired to the Zen Garden. You wanted to find more peice and clarity. You thought who would do such a Nasty crime in a place of peace. You must have felt calm when it happened. You did not budge and died during a moment of clarity. No struggle, no fight ensured. Ofcourse this is a death worthy of such a presence of yours. As I inspected your body I see that you're the doctor of your party.

Once again everyone looks around to see who is missing everyone was shocked to see that someone with the name of Death was intact a doctor Doctor Death how Robust.

Everyone rushes to the Zen garden and see only that Death died with a smile on his face as for some reason he was at peace. Maybe finally not getting wrongly murdered by his fellow town memebers. The old wise man Death is now gone may he rest easy.

Death has been eliminated he was:

Death: Town Doctor

So when you rolled town, I thought Doctor Death sounded really cool for no reason whatsoever. When I think of Death, I always think fuck, I never know how to read this guy just like it took me a long time to realize HtaeD is death spelled backwards. I thought outside the box with this one. Like why not just be death if you go by Death? Why not prevent death instead? Have fun meta-ing this one, scum team!

Every night, you can protect one player other than yourself from being the night kill.

You win when all threats to town are eliminated.

Eliminated:
Pregame:Ctes Town Vanilla Chaos Tony Scum Vanilla
D1:Kirby Scum Prostitute
N1:Lopen Town Vanilla
D2: Sbell Scum Roleblocker
N2. Death Town Doctor

my phone is almost dead not near a charger

Day still starts at 10.

Current guess is Peaf and ##Vote: Corrik

Well, with SBell virtually townconfirming Death with his TMIing, that was pretty obvious. Speaking of SBell, it's funny how Ulti mentioned he could be RB. I thought SBell was going to flip RB for a long time~

Speaking of SBell though, let's circle this back around to how to day ended, particularly Corrik, who looked so bad I would've dayvigged him if I could have. Let's sum up Corrik's end of day: SBell claims, and I eventually call for Corrik to post. Corrik posts one thing... That had already been asked multiple times by both IGCD and myself. 31 minutes later, with a few minutes left in the day, Corrik reappears to talk to SBell, and only SBell. The resulting exchange feels super inorganic. Even by Corrik standards, everything he says feels forced, as do SBell's reactions. This feels like a lynch that was being led by two scum, who weren't voting for each other for garbage bordering on nonexistent reasoning, who decided they couldn't bus and put a show on at the end of the day instead.

Corrik never gives a reason for saying SBell is full of shit in post #268, but later accuses him of lying about being 1-shot to justify it in #291. Here's the problem: In #288, Corrik questions if he claimed one shot. This means his retroactive justification is invalid. Corrik's line of logic here contradicts itself, and not in a way I would say is typical Corrik spew. Nothing about his end of day feels like Corrik posting real thoughts.

Oh and I could totally see them both voting Peaf like that if Peaf were also scum so it doesn't clear him in the slightest.

##vote: Peaf

See you post game chat.

wallmasterz posted...

Current guess is Peaf and ##Vote: Corrik

Good vote.

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Imma be honest unless we get a godfather flip outta Corrik I'm not going to put much stock into your scans.

But with that claimed scan, yeah, Corrik can die.

Hey Red now is the time to fucking claim

##vote: red

I recognize how bad i look from yesterday so i can't really fault any one who is suspicious of me.

If Crescent is town, she shoulda not replaced Abacus. Huge downgrade to town chances to win.

Also, your post regarding 289 and 291 makes no logical sense. But, hey, you do you!

PeaceFrog posted...

Hey Red now is the time to fucking claim

##vote: red

I recognize how bad i look from yesterday so i can't really fault any one who is suspicious of me.

And this is exactly why I don't trust Lea's innocent scan on Peaf.

Corrik7 posted...

If Crescent is town, she shoulda not replaced Abacus. Huge downgrade to town chances to win.

Also, your post regarding 289 and 291 makes no logical sense. But, hey, you do you!

I just obliterated the scum roleblocker, who you spent all day defending. This line of trying to shoot down my play as worthless is not going to work, sorry.

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Could be the alcohol. But probably not.

I fell for sbell's retroactively shitty claim and should not have gotten off. It's no excuse, but i was drinking and at a party and just barely checked in. I exercised incredibly poor judgment. If you need to waste a day killing me that's fine, as long as you go after red tomorrow.

I'll full claim after red does.

Crescent-Moon posted...

I just obliterated the scum roleblocker, who you spent all day defending. This line of trying to shoot down my play as worthless is not going to work, sorry.

Um, the game has been lynching Sbell day 1 and day 2. You didn't obliterate anyone. Your ego is something there, pal.

I thought abacus was town, and Crescent came in and confirmed it. She's not in the poe whatsoever.

PeaceFrog posted...

Could be the alcohol. But probably not.

I fell for sbell's retroactively shitty claim and should not have gotten off. It's no excuse, but i was drinking and at a party and just barely checked in. I exercised incredibly poor judgment. If you need to waste a day killing me that's fine, as long as you go after red tomorrow.

I'll full claim after red does.

Explain to me your Kirby read you tucked behind Lopen. Your fixation on never killing Lopen night 1 and us now finding out Lopen was indeed directly killed night 1. And your "useless" scan claim.

PeaceFrog posted...

Hey Red now is the time to fucking claim

##vote: red

I recognize how bad i look from yesterday so i can't really fault any one who is suspicious of me.

Let's break this down further:

Why does Red need to claim, when you and only you suspect him? What did Red do yesterday that looks so bad?

Why do you feel the need to pre-emptively defend yourself when there's a claimed innocent scan on you?

Crescent-Moon posted...

And this is exactly why I don't trust Lea's innocent scan on Peaf.

Fair. But i promise you she's not insane!

Corrik7 posted...

Um, the game has been lynching Sbell day 1 and day 2. You didn't obliterate anyone. Your ego is something there, pal.

SBell's lynch happened because I made it happen. Try to deny that all you want~

Crescent-Moon posted...

Let's break this down further:

Why does Red need to claim, when you and only you suspect him? What did Red do yesterday that looks so bad?

Why do you feel the need to pre-emptively defend yourself when there's a claimed innocent scan on you?

Because my n2 results heavily imply red to be scum.

The way he dismissed my suspicion as happening "every game" when it happened in one game, two games ago, rubbed me the very bad way.

Was that a preemptive defense? Idk bruh I'm just calling it like i see it. I looked like shit, why beat around the bush?

Corrik7 posted...

Explain to me your Kirby read you tucked behind Lopen. Your fixation on never killing Lopen night 1 and us now finding out Lopen was indeed directly killed night 1. And your "useless" scan claim.

I have no idea what you're on about but it's bed time in nine minutes so please elaborate if you are actually interested in an answer

Crescent-Moon posted...

SBell's lynch happened because I made it happen. Try to deny that all you want~

You are delusional. But that isn't really something new. You are the most egotistical person, for literally no reason at all, and also the most supposedly victimized and persecuted person that exists. Lopen lucked out so hard being the night 1 kill. If only they shot me instead of roleblocked me. Dealing with you is going to be as obnoxious as you were in scumchat arguing with the host about how they were a terrible host over and over cuz you refused to read explanations.

God damn. What did I do to deserve this!

PeaceFrog posted...

I have no idea what you're on about but it's bed time in nine minutes so please elaborate if you are actually interested in an answer

You never at any point mention Kirby day 1 or interact with Kirby day 1 and Kirby never exits the joke phase, but you say he is your 2nd most sure scum behind Lopen. Lopen is town obviously. Kirby is tucked out of nowhere conveniently behind him. Also, you go on and on day 1 about how you would never kill lopen night 1 if town because you feel he is a detriment to town and not a threat if scum. Yadda yadda.

And then your useless soft claim stuff.

People I have no interest in lynching:

Lea
Ulti
Wall

People I have no interest in lynching today:

IGCD
Isquen
Red

People I do have interest in lynching today:

Corrik
Peaf

Isquen being such a total nonfactor for basically the entire end of the day evaporated my gut read on him, so he goes down a notch, but I don't consider him a priority of any sort. Given the innocent scan on Peaf (Who's probably just godfather but we'll cross that bridge when we get there), I would have to see a convincing argument to lynch anyone but Corrik. Peaf's constant pecking at Red has me very unimpressed.

PeaceFrog posted...

Because my n2 results heavily imply red to be scum.

The way he dismissed my suspicion as happening "every game" when it happened in one game, two games ago, rubbed me the very bad way.

Was that a preemptive defense? Idk bruh I'm just calling it like i see it. I looked like shit, why beat around the bush?

Interesting. Now this sounds like something actually worth listening to.

The useless claim on d2 was because of a reason that is currently redacted until red claims.

I know you hate when town is hiding things like this, but if i come out and tell you what's going on then red will have all the info for his fake claim.

I did suspect Kirby. What are you talking about?

Final d1 votals:
(7) Kirby: Ulti, Death, Peaf, Lea, IGCD, Abacus, Corrik
(3) Death: Lopen, Isquen, Wallz, (Corrik)

I was the third vote on him, and i told Ulti that he was my second suspect, before Ulti did the gladiate. You can't say i never mentioned him when i very much was. I can't say if i had any influence on ulti's actions, but i quite frequently had Kirby as my #2 behind lopen.

Finally, i don't think i went on and on about anything regarding lopen being the n1 kill. Lopen said once that scum peaf would respect town lopen d1. I refuted that by saying, in my scum game i told suprak not to kill lopen n1. And that was the end of it. You are making mountains out of molehills. Saying that something happened multiple times or for an extended period does not, by virtue of you saying it, make it suddenly true.

Corrik isn't town. His exchange with SBell thoroughly reeks of scum/scum.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Corrik I think youre town but I am not above killing you on general principle if youre going to act like an abusive person.

I also reiterate that scum Corrik is more abusive towards me than town Corrik. Scum Corrik's only goal in dealing with me is to try to make me have a breakdown.

PeaceFrog posted...

The useless claim on d2 was because of a reason that is currently redacted until red claims.

I know you hate when town is hiding things like this, but if i come out and tell you what's going on then red will have all the info for his fake claim.

I did suspect Kirby. What are you talking about?

Final d1 votals:
(7) Kirby: Ulti, Death, Peaf, Lea, IGCD, Abacus, Corrik
(3) Death: Lopen, Isquen, Wallz, (Corrik)

I was the third vote on him, and i told Ulti that he was my second suspect, before Ulti did the gladiate. You can't say i never mentioned him when i very much was. I can't say if i had any influence on ulti's actions, but i quite frequently had Kirby as my #2 behind lopen.

Finally, i don't think i went on and on about anything regarding lopen being the n1 kill. Lopen said once that scum peaf would respect town lopen d1. I refuted that by saying, in my scum game i told suprak not to kill lopen n1. And that was the end of it. You are making mountains out of molehills. Saying that something happened multiple times or for an extended period does not, by virtue of you saying it, make it suddenly true.

My primary issue with you was how many names you humored lynching day 2 without a whole lot of justification behind it.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Imma be honest unless we get a godfather flip outta Corrik I'm not going to put much stock into your scans.

But with that claimed scan, yeah, Corrik can die.

Isquen has claimed town godfather so I doubt peaf would be scum godfather.

UltimaterializerX posted...

I think Peaf is legit town power and it very much explains his fuck you attitude on day one (not a bad thing).

I don't see any reason why scum Peaf with an innocent scan would be faking power here just to do a 1 for 1 with town Red.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Isquen has claimed town godfather so I doubt peaf would be scum godfather.

...What?

No one ever said anything like this when I was given a claims list.

9-4
8-3
7-2

5-2
3-2
1-2

Scum needs 3 mislynches. How do they get it. Lea has to die tonight if cop. If she doesn't die, she is full of shit. Even if she didn't scan the godfather yet, she can scan the other non-godfather scum.

So Lea resolves herself.

No rolecop is severely making isquens claim look questionable.

Ulti isn't likely a godfather director... but it's not out of the question, but not likely. So when Lea resolves herself she should resolve ulti with her.

This leaves Isquen, IGCD, Red, Peaf, and Crescent.

Peaf is scanned inno supposedly by Lea who should self-resolve, but Peaf could definitely be godfather. Doesn't resolve with Lea at all.

How do you get 3 mislynches here. That's the question. You almost have to try and get someone who should be obvious town lynched at some point and early. The night 1 roleblocked guy is probably your only chance.

But peaf is going after red. This would be detrimental to scum chances if he is scum. Hmmm.

Crescent-Moon posted...

I just obliterated the scum roleblocker, who you spent all day defending. This line of trying to shoot down my play as worthless is not going to work, sorry.

To be fair I caught him day 1 topic 1 page 1 with his first post.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Corrik I think youre town but I am not above killing you on general principle if youre going to act like an abusive person.

And Peaf is not alone in suspecting Red.

##Vote: Red

Its honestly kind of funny that their blocker was dead to rights day one and I saved him by accident just to end up killing someone else on their team. With Death being doctor there was no actual out for their team, which is just funny.

Dude, stfu.

Crescent-Moon posted...

My primary issue with you was how many names you humored lynching day 2 without a whole lot of justification behind it.

Yeah i was honestly surprised that more people didn't attack me for that. You don't have to keep proving that you're town to me, you know.

I don't feel like it's with giving any justification now since we're past that but if you want me to i can give some thoughts and turn the dial on my brain back 48 hours or whatever it was

Hey, Crescent, lay off the victim-fu for more than one day, thank you.

Not dropping a vote yet, but red with the 0 votes day 1 and a lazy Corrik vote day 2 sort of bears remarking upon.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

To be fair I caught him day 1 topic 1 page 1 with his first post.

I still haven't read most of day 1 (and I don't really intend to), but the reason you were in a tier of people I didn't want to lynch was the way you handled SBell yesterday didn't feel like bussing.

Crescent-Moon posted...

...What?

No one ever said anything like this when I was given a claims list.

Yeah i forgot a lot of things in that list that were corrected on the same page iirc

UltimaterializerX posted...

Scum in general tries to mentally abuse you as a discrediting tactic and it isnt happening in my town when Im on a heat check. F that junk.

Red + Corrik and then winning would be so clean.

You know your primary tactic as scum has been exactly that multiple times sooooo

PeaceFrog posted...

Yeah i was honestly surprised that more people didn't attack me for that. You don't have to keep proving that you're town to me, you know.

I don't feel like it's with giving any justification now since we're past that but if you want me to i can give some thoughts and turn the dial on my brain back 48 hours or whatever it was

Oh please I just gutted SBell like a fish I don't need to prove anything <3

UltimaterializerX posted...

You and Lopen influenced my play, yes.

So corrik's comment that i said nothing about Kirby d1... certifiably false!

PeaceFrog posted...

Yeah i forgot a lot of things in that list that were corrected on the same page iirc

I saw "town godfather" come up once in a post that sounded like a joke.

What specifically did Isquen claim