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Tmaster148 05/02/23 8:12:09 PM #1:	https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/05/01/5-dead-in-texas-shooting-family-called-police-5-times-before-killings/70168758007/ A resident of the Texas home where a man opened fire with an AR-15-style rifle said his family called police five times over a span of more than 10 minutes before the rampage that left five people dead and set off a manhunt for the killer. Wilson Garcia said he asked his neighbor, who was shooting a gun in his yard late Friday night, to shoot farther away because Garcia's 1-month-old son was sleeping. Garcia said he called police when the man refused. The family made four more calls, according to The Associated Press. I told my wife: Get inside. This man has loaded his weapon,' Garcia said. My wife told me to go inside because he wont fire at me, Im a woman. Garcias wife, Sonia Argentina Guzman, 25, was the first person shot. Garcia's 9-year-old son also was killed. Garcia said more than a dozen people were in his home at the time and that two women died protecting his infant and 2-year-old daughter, neither of whom was injured. San Jacinto County Sheriff Greg Capers explained the delayed police response in the town of Cleveland, about 45 miles north of Houston, saying he had only three officers covering 700 square miles. When police arrived, they found a horrifying scene. "Everybody that was shot was shot from the neck up, almost execution style,'' Capers said. The suspect, Francisco Oropeza, who has been deported four times since 2009, had been drinking before the shooting, Capers said. Oropeza, 38, remained at large Monday despite a search involving more than 250 law enforcement personnel from multiple jurisdictions. The Montgomery County Sheriffs Office twice reported possible sightings Monday, but each time the searches come up empty. He could be anywhere now, Capers said. More useless cops and people who shouldn't have guns having guns. Yet some people really wonder why there's a growing movement against guns and cops. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:973226288] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/05/01/5-dead-in-texas-shooting-family-called-police-5-times-before-killings/70168758007/<quote>A resident of the Texas home where a man opened fire with an AR-15-style rifle said his family called police five times over a span of more than 10 minutes before the rampage that left five people dead and set off a manhunt for the killer.Wilson Garcia said he asked his neighbor, who was shooting a gun in his yard late Friday night, to shoot farther away because Garcia's 1-month-old son was sleeping. Garcia said he called police when the man refused. The family made four more calls, according to The Associated Press.I told my wife: Get inside. This man has loaded his weapon,' Garcia said. My wife told me to go inside because he wont fire at me, Im a woman.Garcias wife, Sonia Argentina Guzman, 25, was the first person shot. Garcia's 9-year-old son also was killed. Garcia said more than a dozen people were in his home at the time and that two women died protecting his infant and 2-year-old daughter, neither of whom was injured.San Jacinto County Sheriff Greg Capers explained the delayed police response in the town of Cleveland, about 45 miles north of Houston, saying he had only three officers covering 700 square miles. When police arrived, they found a horrifying scene."Everybody that was shot was shot from the neck up, almost execution style,'' Capers said.The suspect, Francisco Oropeza, who has been deported four times since 2009, had been drinking before the shooting, Capers said.Oropeza, 38, remained at large Monday despite a search involving more than 250 law enforcement personnel from multiple jurisdictions. The Montgomery County Sheriffs Office twice reported possible sightings Monday, but each time the searches come up empty.He could be anywhere now, Capers said.</quote>More useless cops and people who shouldn't have guns having guns. Yet some people really wonder why there's a growing movement against guns and cops.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VampireCoyote 05/02/23 8:13:39 PM #2:	Get rid of all these fucking guns. --- She/her <cite>VampireCoyote posted [p:973226315] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>Get rid of all these fucking guns.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 05/02/23 8:16:54 PM #3:	VampireCoyote posted... Get rid of all these fucking guns. More of them in the country than there are people. That's especially true of Texas. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:973226381] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>VampireCoyote posted... </cite><quote>Get rid of all these fucking guns.</quote>More of them in the country than there are people.That's especially true of Texas.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Noname12 05/02/23 8:17:13 PM #4:	What should the police have done in your opinion? --- Darkprince45 <cite>Noname12 posted [p:973226385] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>What should the police have done in your opinion?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Senta 05/02/23 8:23:32 PM #5:	I can understand the reasoning. 3 cops for 700 square miles is rough. My city of 10 square miles, with just under 30k population, runs 3 officers at a time most shifts simply due to lack of officers on staff. And that's not enough to do the best. I cant imagine how hard it is for just 3 officers over an area the size of 700 square miles. If by choice, then that office needs better management. If that is all they had on hand not by choice, but circumstance, I can understand it better. It sucks either way, but there isnt enough listed to give a full picture. --- http://tinyurl.com/b95dwtg <cite>Senta posted [p:973226540] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>I can understand the reasoning. 3 cops for 700 square miles is rough. My city of 10 square miles, with just under 30k population, runs 3 officers at a time most shifts simply due to lack of officers on staff. And that's not enough to do the best. I cant imagine how hard it is for just 3 officers over an area the size of 700 square miles. If by choice, then that office needs better management. If that is all they had on hand not by choice, but circumstance, I can understand it better. It sucks either way, but there isnt enough listed to give a full picture.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 05/02/23 8:24:15 PM #6:	Noname12 posted... What should the police have done in your opinion? Literally send someone down. The fact they were called 5 times before the people were killed shows the cops weren't even going to do a courtesy check up. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:973226554] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>Noname12 posted... </cite><quote>What should the police have done in your opinion?</quote>Literally send someone down.The fact they were called 5 times before the people were killed shows the cops weren't even going to do a courtesy check up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Noname12 05/02/23 8:33:59 PM #8:	Tmaster148 posted... Literally send someone down. The fact they were called 5 times before the people were killed shows the cops weren't even going to do a courtesy check up. It looks like they did but there was a delay. They don't even have a local police force. They have 3 officers from another department covering 700 sq miles. That's an impossible situation for the police --- Darkprince45 <cite>Noname12 posted [p:973226735] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite><quote>Literally send someone down.The fact they were called 5 times before the people were killed shows the cops weren't even going to do a courtesy check up.</quote>It looks like they did but there was a delay. They don't even have a local police force. They have 3 officers from another department covering 700 sq miles. That's an impossible situation for the police </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Senta 05/02/23 8:36:32 PM #9:	Noname12 posted... It looks like they did but there was a delay. They don't even have a local police force. They have 3 officers from another department covering 700 sq miles. That's an impossible situation for the police Made even more impossible if those 3 were already on other calls, and who knows how far away. This is a big situation of needed more police for that area, not less. Need a few stations in the area. --- http://tinyurl.com/b95dwtg <cite>Senta posted [p:973226790] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>Noname12 posted... </cite><quote>It looks like they did but there was a delay. They don't even have a local police force. They have 3 officers from another department covering 700 sq miles. That's an impossible situation for the police</quote>Made even more impossible if those 3 were already on other calls, and who knows how far away. This is a big situation of needed more police for that area, not less. Need a few stations in the area. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 05/02/23 8:37:57 PM #10:	Noname12 posted... It looks like they did but there was a delay. They don't even have a local police force. They have 3 officers from another department covering 700 sq miles. That's an impossible situation for the police I should have read your sig, because of course you would defend the shitty police on anything they do. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:973226816] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>Noname12 posted... </cite><quote>It looks like they did but there was a delay. They don't even have a local police force. They have 3 officers from another department covering 700 sq miles. That's an impossible situation for the police</quote>I should have read your sig, because of course you would defend the shitty police on anything they do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 05/02/23 8:38:27 PM #11:	My wife told me to go inside because he wont fire at me, Im a woman. Garcias wife, Sonia Argentina Guzman, 25, was the first person shot. I just never mind. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:973226825] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote><quote>My wife told me to go inside because he wont fire at me, Im a woman.Garcias wife, Sonia Argentina Guzman, 25, was the first person shot.</quote>I just never mind.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 05/02/23 8:40:45 PM #12:	Tmaster148 posted... I should have read your sig, because of course you would defend the shitty police on anything they do. . . what? I was waiting for you to come back and understand why it was an issue, but you just doubled down. This is what happens when you make generalizations, you honestly think the cops are in the bad here because they couldn't be in multiple locations at once. That's ill thinking, my friend. --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:973226871] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite><quote>I should have read your sig, because of course you would defend the shitty police on anything they do.</quote>. . what? I was waiting for you to come back and understand why it was an issue, but you just doubled down. This is what happens when you make generalizations, you honestly think the cops are in the bad here because they couldn't be in multiple locations at once. That's ill thinking, my friend. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DuneMan 05/02/23 8:42:32 PM #13:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... I just never mind. Yeah, man, woman, child, anything other than possibly infant and you'll find nutjobs ready to shoot you... -_- --- "I'd rather betray the world than let the world betray me." -Cao Cao <cite>DuneMan posted [p:973226904] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>Lorenzo_2003 posted... </cite><quote>I just never mind.</quote>Yeah, man, woman, child, anything other than possibly infant and you'll find nutjobs ready to shoot you... -_-</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 05/02/23 8:43:31 PM #14:	Never assume someone won't dare shoot you. <cite>Zikten posted [p:973226931] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>Never assume someone won't dare shoot you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 05/02/23 8:43:34 PM #15:	Bad_Mojo posted... . . what? I was waiting for you to come back and understand why it was an issue, but you just doubled down. This is what happens when you make generalizations, you honestly think the cops are in the bad here because they couldn't be in multiple locations at once. That's ill thinking, my friend. There's zero excuse for them not having the man power to have officers on call to the area. Literally paid by tax payers and they do shit for us. If cops want to keep taking in tax money and proceed to do nothing for the communities, then they don't deserve to be around. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:973226932] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>Bad_Mojo posted... </cite><quote>. . what? I was waiting for you to come back and understand why it was an issue, but you just doubled down. This is what happens when you make generalizations, you honestly think the cops are in the bad here because they couldn't be in multiple locations at once. That's ill thinking, my friend.</quote>There's zero excuse for them not having the man power to have officers on call to the area. Literally paid by tax payers and they do shit for us.If cops want to keep taking in tax money and proceed to do nothing for the communities, then they don't deserve to be around.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE_FOSTER 05/02/23 8:47:21 PM #16:	Senta posted... I can understand the reasoning. 3 cops for 700 square miles is rough. My city of 10 square miles, with just under 30k population, runs 3 officers at a time most shifts simply due to lack of officers on staff. And that's not enough to do the best. I cant imagine how hard it is for just 3 officers over an area the size of 700 square miles. If by choice, then that office needs better management. If that is all they had on hand not by choice, but circumstance, I can understand it better. It sucks either way, but there isnt enough listed to give a full picture. but Texas has a 33 billion dollar surplus according to Fascist Abbott <cite>CADE_FOSTER posted [p:973227017] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>Senta posted... </cite><quote>I can understand the reasoning. 3 cops for 700 square miles is rough. My city of 10 square miles, with just under 30k population, runs 3 officers at a time most shifts simply due to lack of officers on staff. And that's not enough to do the best. I cant imagine how hard it is for just 3 officers over an area the size of 700 square miles. If by choice, then that office needs better management. If that is all they had on hand not by choice, but circumstance, I can understand it better. It sucks either way, but there isnt enough listed to give a full picture.</quote>but Texas has a 33 billion dollar surplus according to Fascist Abbott</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 05/02/23 8:48:07 PM #17:	DuneMan posted... Yeah, man, woman, child, anything other than possibly infant and you'll find nutjobs ready to shoot you... -_- Not even infants are safe. Nutjobs will shoot anybody and anything. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:973227033] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>DuneMan posted... </cite><quote>Yeah, man, woman, child, anything other than possibly infant and you'll find nutjobs ready to shoot you... -_-</quote>Not even infants are safe. Nutjobs will shoot anybody and anything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
St0rmFury 05/02/23 8:48:11 PM #18:	Tmaster148 posted... There's zero excuse for them not having the man power to have officers on call to the area. Literally paid by tax payers and they do shit for us. If cops want to keep taking in tax money and proceed to do nothing for the communities, then they don't deserve to be around. I thought it was already established that cops don't have an obligation to protect citizens. America! --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) <cite>St0rmFury posted [p:973227034] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite><quote>There's zero excuse for them not having the man power to have officers on call to the area. Literally paid by tax payers and they do shit for us.If cops want to keep taking in tax money and proceed to do nothing for the communities, then they don't deserve to be around.</quote>I thought it was already established that cops don't have an obligation to protect citizens.America!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 05/02/23 8:50:21 PM #19:	St0rmFury posted... I thought it was already established that cops don't have an obligation to protect citizens. America! Yup. And it's a big reason we need to get rid of cops and set up different community based ways to protect people. There was a segment on Last Week Tonight on different approaches to policing with police a couple years ago. Cops continue to get in the news for killing people and refusing to do anything about actual threats that there's simply no reason for the tax payers to keep them around. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:973227074] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>St0rmFury posted... </cite><quote>I thought it was already established that cops don't have an obligation to protect citizens.America!</quote>Yup. And it's a big reason we need to get rid of cops and set up different community based ways to protect people. There was a segment on Last Week Tonight on different approaches to policing with police a couple years ago.Cops continue to get in the news for killing people and refusing to do anything about actual threats that there's simply no reason for the tax payers to keep them around.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 05/02/23 8:53:30 PM #20:	Tmaster148 posted... Yup. And it's a big reason we need to get rid of cops and set up different community based ways to protect people. There was a segment on Last Week Tonight on different approaches to policing with police a couple years ago. Cops continue to get in the news for killing people and refusing to do anything about actual threats that there's simply no reason for the tax payers to keep them around. Thanks! Do you think it's this one? https://youtu.be/Wf4cea5oObY I'll take a listen. Again, thanks --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:973227135] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite><quote>Yup. And it's a big reason we need to get rid of cops and set up different community based ways to protect people. There was a segment on Last Week Tonight on different approaches to policing with police a couple years ago.Cops continue to get in the news for killing people and refusing to do anything about actual threats that there's simply no reason for the tax payers to keep them around.</quote>Thanks! Do you think it's this one?https://youtu.be/Wf4cea5oObYI'll take a listen. Again, thanks </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 05/02/23 8:55:53 PM #21:	https://twitter.com/poppy_haze/status/1653558616757002245 --- Please don't be weird in my topics <cite>Antifar posted [p:973227184] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/poppy_haze/status/1653558616757002245</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 05/02/23 8:57:33 PM #22:	Of course he was caught in Cut and Shoot, TX --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:973227215] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>Of course he was caught in Cut and Shoot, TX</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 05/02/23 9:03:37 PM #23:	Antifar posted... https://twitter.com/poppy_haze/status/1653558616757002245 If this is true, then I'll switch my tune. I was going under the impression that the 3 police officers were spread out doing other things --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:973227335] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted... </cite><quote>https://twitter.com/poppy_haze/status/1653558616757002245</quote>If this is true, then I'll switch my tune. I was going under the impression that the 3 police officers were spread out doing other things</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mustachedmystic 05/02/23 9:07:20 PM #24:	Tmaster148 posted... Yup. And it's a big reason we need to get rid of cops and set up different community based ways to protect people. Arebb be you saying we should get rid of all cops, and get someone else to enforce the law? --- And I got what I got all despite you And I get what I get just to spite you <cite>mustachedmystic posted [p:973227401] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite><quote>Yup. And it's a big reason we need to get rid of cops and set up different community based ways to protect people. </quote>Arebb be you saying we should get rid of all cops, and get someone else to enforce the law?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nemu 05/02/23 9:09:01 PM #25:	There are plenty of areas that are simply too sparsely populated for quick response. Sounds like that operator needs to be fired, if that's true. <cite>Nemu posted [p:973227432] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>There are plenty of areas that are simply too sparsely populated for quick response. Sounds like that operator needs to be fired, if that's true.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 05/02/23 9:09:38 PM #26:	mustachedmystic posted... Arebb be you saying we should get rid of all cops, and get someone else to enforce the law? Cops inherently exist to protect the capital, not the people. They do not have the average's person interest at heart. The idea behind defund the police is remove resources that goes towards the police and allocate them in places that actually aim to address a communities needs. Most 911 calls don't need a cop to show up with a gun and would be much better served with a person trained to just deal with people. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:973227447] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>mustachedmystic posted... </cite><quote>Arebb be you saying we should get rid of all cops, and get someone else to enforce the law?</quote>Cops inherently exist to protect the capital, not the people. They do not have the average's person interest at heart. The idea behind defund the police is remove resources that goes towards the police and allocate them in places that actually aim to address a communities needs. Most 911 calls don't need a cop to show up with a gun and would be much better served with a person trained to just deal with people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 05/02/23 9:14:08 PM #27:	Tmaster148 posted... More useless cops Tmaster148 posted... Sheriff Greg Capers explained the delayed police response in the town of Cleveland, about 45 miles north of Houston, saying he had only three officers covering 700 square miles More like the lack of cops. --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:973227532] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite><quote>More useless cops</quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite><quote>Sheriff Greg Capers explained the delayed police response in the town of Cleveland, about 45 miles north of Houston, saying he had only three officers covering 700 square miles</quote>More like the lack of cops. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baha05 05/02/23 9:16:25 PM #28:	deoxxys posted... More like the lack of cops. If you read the topic this fact doesnt matter to TC --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" <cite>Baha05 posted [p:973227589] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>deoxxys posted... </cite><quote>More like the lack of cops.</quote>If you read the topic this fact doesnt matter to TC</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 05/02/23 9:18:41 PM #29:	The shooter is the kind of person who needs the death penalty.....BUT its bArBaRiC and he might be iNnOcEnT --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:973227625] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>The shooter is the kind of person who needs the death penalty.....BUT its bArBaRiC and he might be iNnOcEnT</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mustachedmystic 05/02/23 9:19:07 PM #30:	Tmaster148 posted... Cops inherently exist to protect the capital, not the people. They do not have the average's person interest at heart. The idea behind defund the police is remove resources that goes towards the police and allocate them in places that actually aim to address a communities needs. Most 911 calls don't need a cop to show up with a gun and would be much better served with a person trained to just deal with people. So, there you go. The answer isnt to get rid of all cops. But rather, to change the basic nature of policing in America, which I would be 100% behind. --- And I got what I got all despite you And I get what I get just to spite you <cite>mustachedmystic posted [p:973227630] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite><quote>Cops inherently exist to protect the capital, not the people. They do not have the average's person interest at heart. The idea behind defund the police is remove resources that goes towards the police and allocate them in places that actually aim to address a communities needs. Most 911 calls don't need a cop to show up with a gun and would be much better served with a person trained to just deal with people.</quote>So, there you go. The answer isnt to get rid of all cops. But rather, to change the basic nature of policing in America, which I would be 100% behind.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap 05/02/23 9:20:57 PM #31:	deoxxys posted... The shooter is the kind of person who needs the death penalty.....bUt iTs bArBaRiC aNd hE mIgHt bE iNnOcEnT No, it's barbaric because it puts innocent people in danger and you're willing to accept that because "justice". Life in prison is fine. <cite>RuneterranSnap posted [p:973227658] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>deoxxys posted... </cite><quote>The shooter is the kind of person who needs the death penalty.....bUt iTs bArBaRiC aNd hE mIgHt bE iNnOcEnT</quote>No, it's barbaric because it puts innocent people in danger and you're willing to accept that because "justice".Life in prison is fine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 05/02/23 9:21:51 PM #32:	mustachedmystic posted... So, there you go. The answer isnt to get rid of all cops. But rather, to change the basic nature of policing in America, which I would be 100% behind. No, you definitely can just get rid of all cops. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/06/12/camden-policing-reforms-313750 There's no point in keeping the exist system as it exists now. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:973227668] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>mustachedmystic posted... </cite><quote>So, there you go. The answer isnt to get rid of all cops. But rather, to change the basic nature of policing in America, which I would be 100% behind.</quote>No, you definitely can just get rid of all cops.https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/06/12/camden-policing-reforms-313750There's no point in keeping the exist system as it exists now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 05/02/23 9:24:37 PM #33:	Tmaster148 posted... No, you definitely can just get rid of all cops. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/06/12/camden-policing-reforms-313750 There's no point in keeping the exist system as it exists now. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/1/9/AAPCn7AAEcKP.jpg Right...Camden NJ, pictures like this all over google and youtube titles like "Camden, New Jersey Might Be The Worst Place in the Country Right Now." --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:973227721] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite><quote>No, you definitely can just get rid of all cops.https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/06/12/camden-policing-reforms-313750There's no point in keeping the exist system as it exists now.</quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/1/9/AAPCn7AAEcKP.jpg Right...Camden NJ, pictures like this all over google and youtube titles like "Camden, New Jersey Might Be The Worst Place in the Country Right Now."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 05/02/23 9:26:37 PM #34:	Noname12 posted... What should the police have done in your opinion? You serious? --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:973227753] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>Noname12 posted... </cite><quote>What should the police have done in your opinion?</quote>You serious?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 05/02/23 9:29:04 PM #35:	Bad_Mojo posted... If this is true, then I'll switch my tune. I was going under the impression that the 3 police officers were spread out doing other things Don't ever give cops the benefit of the doubt. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:973227803] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>Bad_Mojo posted... </cite><quote>If this is true, then I'll switch my tune. I was going under the impression that the 3 police officers were spread out doing other things</quote>Don't ever give cops the benefit of the doubt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mustachedmystic 05/02/23 9:32:06 PM #36:	Tmaster148 posted... No, you definitely can just get rid of all cops. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/06/12/camden-policing-reforms-313750 There's no point in keeping the exist system as it exists now. What is the point of even having laws, If there is no one to enforce them? --- And I got what I got all despite you And I get what I get just to spite you <cite>mustachedmystic posted [p:973227858] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite><quote>No, you definitely can just get rid of all cops.https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/06/12/camden-policing-reforms-313750There's no point in keeping the exist system as it exists now.</quote>What is the point of even having laws, If there is no one to enforce them?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 05/02/23 9:34:44 PM #37:	They caught the killer btw https://news.yahoo.com/man-believed-suspect-accused-gunning-010100097.html <cite>Zikten posted [p:973227911] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>They caught the killer btwhttps://news.yahoo.com/man-believed-suspect-accused-gunning-010100097.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 05/02/23 9:36:49 PM #38:	mustachedmystic posted... What is the point of even having laws, If there is no one to enforce them? Current cops do not have to be the means of enforcing laws. Trying to fix the current cops is not a reasonable task. You simply have to rebuild something new without the old. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:973227955] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>mustachedmystic posted... </cite><quote>What is the point of even having laws, If there is no one to enforce them?</quote>Current cops do not have to be the means of enforcing laws. Trying to fix the current cops is not a reasonable task. You simply have to rebuild something new without the old.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pauIie 05/02/23 9:41:43 PM #39:	this country loves that shit like this is happening. only explanation. --- http://i.imgur.com/O5APL.jpg http://www.last.fm/user/jaeganja <cite>pauIie posted [p:973228038] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>this country loves that shit like this is happening. only explanation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mustachedmystic 05/02/23 9:45:41 PM #40:	Tmaster148 posted... Current cops do not have to be the means of enforcing laws. How do you figure? If I drive 100 mph down the road, or rip the tag off my mattress, its the police that gather evidence of my malfeasance, and make it so the prosecutors can punish me. Tmaster148 posted... Current cops do not have to be the means of enforcing laws. Trying to fix the current cops is not a reasonable task. You simply have to rebuild something new without the old. Well then fine, if you did that, those new people would be called what? Cops, that is what. So in other words, the answer is is to reform law enforcement, not get rid of it. --- And I got what I got all despite you And I get what I get just to spite you <cite>mustachedmystic posted [p:973228113] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite><quote>Current cops do not have to be the means of enforcing laws.</quote>How do you figure? If I drive 100 mph down the road, or rip the tag off my mattress, its the police that gather evidence of my malfeasance, and make it so the prosecutors can punish me.Tmaster148 posted... </cite><quote>Current cops do not have to be the means of enforcing laws. Trying to fix the current cops is not a reasonable task. You simply have to rebuild something new without the old.</quote>Well then fine, if you did that, those new people would be called what? Cops, that is what. So in other words, the answer is is to reform law enforcement, not get rid of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 05/02/23 9:47:52 PM #41:	mustachedmystic posted... rip the tag off my mattress I see you have no interest in arguing in good faith with this line. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:973228163] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>mustachedmystic posted... </cite><quote>rip the tag off my mattress</quote>I see you have no interest in arguing in good faith with this line.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baha05 05/02/23 9:50:58 PM #42:	Tmaster148 posted... I see you have no interest in arguing in good faith with this line. The irony from what Ive seen in the topic --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" <cite>Baha05 posted [p:973228206] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite><quote>I see you have no interest in arguing in good faith with this line.</quote>The irony from what Ive seen in the topic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InfinityMonster 05/02/23 9:58:51 PM #44:	Camden is a horrible example, and they definitely did not get rid of the cops. They reorganized and reformed and this was several years ago. Because it's still a complete shithole and considered one of the worst in the country. It's just not one of the worst areas in the world anymore. --- "It lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge" <cite>InfinityMonster posted [p:973228366] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>Camden is a horrible example, and they definitely did not get rid of the cops. They reorganized and reformed and this was several years ago. Because it's still a complete shithole and considered one of the worst in the country. It's just not one of the worst areas in the world anymore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 05/03/23 2:43:57 PM #45:	deoxxys posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/1/9/AAPCn7AAEcKP.jpg Right...Camden NJ, pictures like this all over google and youtube titles like "Camden, New Jersey Might Be The Worst Place in the Country Right Now." Jeezus, that looks like a location in Fallout. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:973241555] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>deoxxys posted... </cite><quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/1/9/AAPCn7AAEcKP.jpg Right...Camden NJ, pictures like this all over google and youtube titles like "Camden, New Jersey Might Be The Worst Place in the Country Right Now."</quote>Jeezus, that looks like a location in Fallout.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 05/03/23 2:49:36 PM #46:	deoxxys posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/1/9/AAPCn7AAEcKP.jpg Right...Camden NJ, pictures like this all over google and youtube titles like "Camden, New Jersey Might Be The Worst Place in the Country Right Now." now imagine if billionaires got taxed properly so we could fix places like that --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:973241647] in Texas fami... [t:80431390]...</cite> <quote>deoxxys posted... </cite><quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/1/9/AAPCn7AAEcKP.jpg Right...Camden NJ, pictures like this all over google and youtube titles like "Camden, New Jersey Might Be The Worst Place in the Country Right Now."</quote>now imagine if billionaires got taxed properly so we could fix places like that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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