Current Events > Should pit bulls (aka American Staffordshire Bull Terriers) be illegal to own?

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No. If you completely ban one breed it just allows for others to be banned.

I do not give a flying fuck if all Brachycephalic dog breeds are completely

No. If you completely ban one breed it just allows for others to be banned

Less people die per year from pitbull deaths than mass shootings per year.

Those are illegal too.

Well no. We can own guns, we just can't commit mass shootings. Just like how we can own dogs but it'd be illegal to sic them on people.

No.

Tired of the shit slung at pit bulls.

Raise them right from puppies and it's unlikely they become violent.

It's like saying black people should be exiled because they're potentially dangerous. How about examining people before letting them have pets and stop with the generalizations.

No, because there are many many studies showing that laws based on dog breed have absolutrly zero effectiveness in reducing the number of dog based injuries.

A new breed would simply become the "problem breed".

While I know we're talking about pits here, I do not give a flying fuck if all Brachycephalic dog breeds are completely banned given how existence is a living hell for them because dipshits think that having pushed in noses that makes it a struggle to breathe is cute.

Maybe make the owner of a pit liable for shit the doggo does or something to go back on topic, I dunno.

So the question I always ask then, is if the breed has nothing to do with it, what is so unique about the demographics of people buying pit bulls that cause them to be uniquely bad at raising dogs right? Saying it's not the breed doesn't actually fix the problem of all of these pitbull attacks. It's the equivalent of somebody responding to a demand to legislate assault rifles with a "well actually, you know there is no official designation for assault rifle" and then claiming the debate is over.

So the question I always ask then, is if the breed has nothing to do with it, what is so unique about the demographics of people buying pit bulls that cause them to be uniquely bad at raising dogs right? Saying it's not the breed doesn't actually fix the problem of all of these pitbull attacks. It's the equivalent of somebody responding to a demand to legislate assault rifles with a "well actually, you know there is no official designation for assault rifle" and then claiming the debate is over.

This. Well said.

No.

Tired of the shit slung at pit bulls.

Raise them right from puppies and it's unlikely they become violent.

It's like saying black people should be exiled because they're potentially dangerous. How about examining people before letting them have pets and stop with the generalizations.

It is not well said to compare black people to fucking pitbulls.

No.

Tired of the shit slung at pit bulls.

Raise them right from puppies and it's unlikely they become violent.

It's like saying black people should be exiled because they're potentially dangerous. How about examining people before letting them have pets and stop with the generalizations.

The number of people on CE who say litanies against pit bulls because they can't get away with saying the same against races of people is nonzero.

The problem with them is that they are very easy to get, loyal, and the look mean.

So, let me give you a common scenario. You live in a bad neighborhood, you have a family to protect, you already own a gun but people wont know that till theyre inside. What do you do to stop them from even trying to break in? you get a big dog to stick in the yard.

Now lets say you ban pits, well people still need a guard dog. I cant get a pit well i'll get a rottie. Same issue with them. An extremely loyal dog that looks mean.

Then, the dog isnt socialized because you want it to scare off non family members, you dont walk it because you have a yard, and then you dont give it any way to burn excess energy and stimulate its mind.

You get shitty dogs and that are stressed out whenever it sees a non family member. That dog gets out or you have to give it up. Then you have a dog that's constantly stressed out. Now you give it to someone who cant see the signs of a stressed dog. BAM a bite and since they are big strong dogs. A serious bite happens

Staffies arent pit bulls though? Theyre closely related to them but theyre different

Ok but pitbulls literally are genetically hardwired to not back down or let go from a fight.

Humans are animals you fuck nut

Also former fighting dogs need to be put down or permanently housed in a shelter.

they usually are. Dogs that are deemed too dangerous or unfit to be around other people or dogs are put down.

It happened to my dads dog when he lost his house.

And for people who are those races of people, who also dislike pitbulls and say "litanies against pitbulls", what's their reasoning chief? Because unlike you ludicrously and offensively likening a race to a dog breed, that number is actually nonzero.