Poll of the Day > Do different medias have different time scales of what's modern?

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A TV show from the 70s seems so ancient but music from the 70s still feels modern to me

Though I guess TV is weird because 90s stuff feels more modern then the 2000s cgi boom that was instantly dated

great topic

music doesn't contain quite as much cultural elements and has also been around peak quality for much longer. for TV, quality was continually improving, and the culture of the time is quite visible, so it's much more noticeably from a different time.

Sahuagin posted...

music doesn't contain quite as much cultural elements and has also been around peak quality for much longer. for TV, quality was continually improving, and the culture of the time is quite visible, so it's much more noticeably from a different time.

I feel like peak TV was in the 90s/early 00s before cgi started to take over and it tanked, though it's about what's feels modern not good. I feel like video games used to be better but also feel dated quicker as an example.

Led Zeppelin? Timeless classic that never feels old
Pokemon yellow? Feels old even though it's still worth playing

Muscles discovers a difference between visual and nonvisual media, more at 11

my entire frame of reference is Pokemon, Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd!!!

DirtBasedSoap posted...

my entire frame of reference is Pokemon, Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd!!!

Lmao this is literally what he's going off of

good lord this topic

DAE Led Zeppelin good, Beyonce bad???

Mensis posted...

Muscles discovers a difference between visual and nonvisual media, more at 11

That had literally nothing to do with it, go ahead and compare TV to movies and it's still different, same with 2 non visual forms of media

DirtBasedSoap posted...

my entire frame of reference is Pokemon, Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd!!!

Those are called examples, not the entire frame of reference

Well it's your fault for making a rambling nonsensical topic. You list random and arbitrary time periods and use examples that have nothing to do with each other.

I liked arse in the 90's and still like it now. That's all I can say.

DirtBasedSoap posted...

DAE Led Zeppelin good, Beyonce bad???

Lmao muscles topics in a nutshell

Well, TV has been around for less than 100 years and music has been around for thousands. I think the answer is obvious

I think a lot of what you're describing is just a matter of how relevant technological advances are to the pieces of media in question, which isn't necessarily something inherent to the medium. Early 2000's CGI looks dated because it was the best they could do at the time and now we can do better. Early film/tv sounds dated because it was the best recording technology they had at the time and now we can do better. Most N64 games look more dated than most SNES ones because the technology of the SNES was able to tap into most of what the 2D sprite art style had to offer, while the N64 was barely scratching the surface of what could be done with 3D graphics.

Beyond that, there's the question of whether or not whichever pop culture norms a given piece of media demonstrates ended up sticking around. Sometimes, that's because that particular piece pioneered a new norm (Citizen Kane being the Citizen Kane of that phenomenon), other times it's just a coincidence that something that imitated the pioneer picked the right thing to imitate (like dual stick FPS games mimicking Halo's control scheme). This is generally quite noticeable in music, where certain songs will sound very much like products of their time, but others will fit right in with more modern stuff. Music has also been around for the entirety of human history, so it's to be expected that whatever evolution has happened within the last few decades is pretty small compared to what's happened in media where those few decades represent their entire existence.

Thank you adjl for being the only one to take this seriously

It also seems like the scales could be widely different for people, which is an aspect that hasn't been brought up yet. What made me make this topic is that recently me and my friend heard party rock and they acted like it was an old song and I was confused because it's from 2011 which feels like it's still new to me

Not every new trend in media is a good trend. Some things get better due to technology while others take steps back in content that are masked by technology. So what is "good" isn't always the same as what is "modern". Also this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGrfhsxxmdE&t=27s

Muscles posted...

What made me make this topic is that recently me and my friend heard party rock and they acted like it was an old song and I was confused because it's from 2011 which feels like it's still new to me

That probably speaks more to how your respective lives have changed: If their life has changed quite a bit since 2011, they'll find that it invokes a certain degree of nostalgia because they associate it with a time in their life when things were different. If yours hasn't changed much, it's more likely to blur together and not stand out as being older.

Stylistically, it's not tremendously different from anything modern, so I wouldn't say it stands out as being "dated."