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Kitt
11/21/22 5:53:34 PM
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I accidentally killed my A.I. companion like 5 minutes in. This was followed by killing myself via cutting a tree down on top of myself.

This is one of those kind of games, I see...

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DKBananaSlamma
11/21/22 5:55:11 PM
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Best Star Wars game next to Rogue Squadron. It's so much better than Outcast

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Kitt
11/21/22 6:01:19 PM
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I had my first first lightsaber battle and won fairly quickly. Get fucked, nerd.

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Jagr_68
11/21/22 6:02:46 PM
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One of my favorite moments from that was when a wampa tore me in half...
Jannnnnky and slippery as fuck but I loved playing the chaotic lightsaber matches on multiplayer.

btw we still haven't gotten a Star Wars game to this date with actual parryable lightsaber gameplay since JA.

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VeggetaX
11/21/22 6:02:53 PM
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I remember when I went online with that game and the mods didn't want me to attack anyone until we bowed to each other lmao wtf

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Kitt
11/21/22 6:09:52 PM
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Jagr_68 posted...
One of my favorite moments from that was when a wampa tore me in half...
Jannnnnky and slippery as fuck but I loved playing the chaotic lightsaber matches on multiplayer.

btw we still haven't gotten a Star Wars game to this date with actual parryable lightsaber gameplay since JA.
Yeah, the controls are weird and kind of jank. Especially since I'm playing with a controller. It's incredibly easy to die by every little thing. And I have no clue what I'm doing in the lightsaber fights, but I'm winning them. With all that said, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't having fun. I kind of like the learning curve it have.

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Kitt
11/21/22 6:26:49 PM
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Well, I'm doing the level with the sand worm. I already found my least favorite mission...

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TheGreatEscape
11/21/22 6:27:28 PM
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Kitt posted...
Well, I'm doing the level with the sand worm. I already found my least favorite mission...

there are a few absolutely dreadful and abysmal levels in what is otherwise a really fun game.

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DrizztLink
11/21/22 6:28:42 PM
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TheGreatEscape posted...
there are a few absolutely dreadful and abysmal levels in what is otherwise a really fun game.
There are usually one in every set of missions, so at least you can skip them.

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DKBananaSlamma
11/21/22 6:49:12 PM
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TheGreatEscape posted...
there are a few absolutely dreadful and abysmal levels in what is otherwise a really fun game.
The only bad level I can think of is that speeder bike level

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Kitt
11/21/22 6:59:30 PM
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I love how lightsaber battles ranges from epic confrontations that can last for a few intense minutes to me just killing a dude in one hit in a second or two.

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Kitt
11/21/22 8:16:54 PM
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I ended up playing more of this game than I was expecting...

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GeneralKenobi85
11/21/22 8:23:37 PM
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I also killed myself with that tree the first time I played Jedi Academy.

The lightsaber combat is great and really makes the game stand out. Unsurprisingly, the best missions tend to be the ones where most of the enemies are also wielding lightsabers.

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electricbugs2
11/21/22 8:28:07 PM
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Kitt posted...
I love how lightsaber battles ranges from epic confrontations that can last for a few intense minutes to me just killing a dude in one hit in a second or two.
The battles get way harder after the second set of missions. The cultists at the beginning of the game are weak as fuck (it actually relates to the story) but when you start taking on the reborn youre going to lose a few duels.

Still an amazing game overall though. Lucas arts in the 2000s was pumping out so many bangers.

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Tora_Sami
11/21/22 8:30:28 PM
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Are you playing it on PC? I remember have a lot of fun with the dismemberment turned all the way up to max. I think outcast had better dismemberment though. I would also go into the editor and make huge armies fight each other. Unfortunately your allies could hurt each other but the enemy could not. Kind of pissed me off lol but yeah game is great.

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COVxy
11/21/22 8:36:28 PM
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My favorite online memories come from the game just prior to Jedi Academy, Jedi Outcast.

That game had the most fun competitive lightsaber mechanics.

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MrResetti
11/21/22 8:46:14 PM
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Trying to remember but is force push an option to just send others to their death in certain areas? Feel like that was OP

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DrizztLink
11/21/22 8:47:39 PM
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MrResetti posted...
Trying to remember but is force push an option to just send others to their death in certain areas? Feel like that was OP
Or Grip.

Neither are majorly effective against other Force users but you can pull it off.

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Kitt
11/21/22 11:05:54 PM
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electricbugs2 posted...
The battles get way harder after the second set of missions. The cultists at the beginning of the game are weak as fuck (it actually relates to the story) but when you start taking on the reborn youre going to lose a few duels.
I went up against some bots in the multiplayer mode and they pushed my shit in. And they were just on Padawan.

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ThePrinceFish
11/21/22 11:07:14 PM
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very hard to not turn to the dark side in academy because you have to be a true saint to tolerate that douche Rosh

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Super_Slash
11/21/22 11:07:34 PM
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Jedi Academy has better mechanics but Outcast is the better game *by far* imo. Academy is short and feels incredibly rushed.

No lie, you can beat this game in like 3 hours.
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GeneralKenobi85
11/22/22 7:47:13 AM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
very hard to not turn to the dark side in academy because you have to be a true saint to tolerate that douche Rosh

It certainly makes the final mission much more fun.


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lww99
11/22/22 8:15:19 AM
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Heavy stance pls. For me.

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DKBananaSlamma
11/22/22 10:15:56 AM
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Dark side final boss is infinitely better than Light side final boss

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DKBananaSlamma
11/22/22 10:17:35 AM
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lww99 posted...
Heavy stance pls. For me.
Heavy Stance for lightsaber users
Mediuk stance for everything else

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Kitt
11/22/22 10:20:55 AM
#26:


Yo, why can't I beat the CPU in a duel on multiplayer? I'm using the MP bots to practice lightsaber combat and I've only manage to get one round in. They're only on Padawan. This some bullshit.

Edit: Don't get me wrong, I'm loving the difficulty curve and it got me look up guides on how to fight with the lightsaber and stuff. But still, these MP A.I.s are fucking me up. Gonna master this game.

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DarkBuster22904
11/22/22 10:24:32 AM
#27:


Super_Slash posted...
Jedi Academy has better mechanics but Outcast is the better game *by far* imo. Academy is short and feels incredibly rushed.

No lie, you can beat this game in like 3 hours.
Academy may be short, but I'll take it any day of the week.

I no longer have any patience for the shitty shooter missions in Outcast, which is literally half the game. And of the other half, I have major issues with half of those levels. That leaves me with... 25% of the game that I really like? And a better story, I guess.

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Spurner
11/22/22 10:27:07 AM
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DarkBuster22904 posted...
Academy may be short, but I'll take it any day of the week.

I no longer have any patience for the shitty shooter missions in Outcast, which is literally half the game. And of the other half, I have major issues with half of those levels. That leaves me with... 25% of the game that I really like? And a better story, I guess.

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StormSignal
11/22/22 10:29:45 AM
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DKBananaSlamma posted...
The only bad level I can think of is that speeder bike level
speederbike and worm are probably my two least favorite

god i love that game tho

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Trelve
11/22/22 10:45:25 AM
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I must have spent well over a thousand hours on multiplayer on both Outcast and Academy. The community was fantastic, I miss those days.
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DrizztLink
11/22/22 4:31:29 PM
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DarkBuster22904 posted...
And of the other half, I have major issues with half of those levels
Remember when Vader told Boba Fett "no disintegrations" in a movie?

Now picture if he said "arm literally everyone with disintegrators."

Welcome to Nar Shadaa.

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nativengine
11/22/22 4:36:26 PM
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That game was great till Battlefront 2 came out.

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DKBananaSlamma
11/23/22 4:43:11 AM
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Outcast is a slog. It takes forever to get your lightsaber (and it's not the "building up to it" that's the problem. The building up part is really boring >_>). Most of the levels are mazes and have tiny switches you gotta find to open random doors, which gets annoying really quickly. And the literal 1st level you get to use your lightsaber in is this big open area with tons of long-range snipers. Seriously?

Jedi Academy is what Jedi Outcast failed to be: a masterpiece.

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Kitt
11/23/22 10:38:55 AM
#34:


I finally beat the a.i. in a first to 10 duel. I'm starting to understand...

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Kitt
11/23/22 8:50:46 PM
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I thought I would be playing this just a bit for shits and giggles, but man, I really dig this game. The lightsaber combat have a surprising amount of depth behind it. Like, I actually want to git gud at it.

I'd like to see a more modern Star Wars game that take a lot of influence from this game. Fallen Order was fun for what it was in terms of lightsaber/force gameplay, but it's not quite this though.

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TheGreatEscape
11/24/22 1:51:17 PM
#36:


Kitt posted...
I thought I would be playing this just a bit for shits and giggles, but man, I really dig this game. The lightsaber combat have a surprising amount of depth behind it. Like, I actually want to git gud at it.

I'd like to see a more modern Star Wars game that take a lot of influence from this game. Fallen Order was fun for what it was in terms of lightsaber/force gameplay, but it's not quite this though.

the game also has tons of mods from tweaks to the gameplay to entirely new campaigns too. definitely worth looking into

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Gobstoppers12
11/24/22 1:57:22 PM
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VeggetaX posted...
I remember when I went online with that game and the mods didn't want me to attack anyone until we bowed to each other lmao wtf
It's got a pretty strong dueling culture. The usual rule is if they have their saber out they're fair game, or else you challenge them to a duel. The free for alls in that game tend to be super chaotic and random, so most people aren't about that lol

Servers still exist if you get the right mods to show the correct list. I played it a couple of months ago, and all of my skills have evaporated. I used to be one of the best duelists in my clan, but I've forgotten all my muscle memory.

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Kitt
11/24/22 2:43:35 PM
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TheGreatEscape posted...
the game also has tons of mods from tweaks to the gameplay to entirely new campaigns too. definitely worth looking into
It strikes this perfect balance between power fantasy and technical skills. Especially when you're doing one-on-ones.
Popping the speed ability then flipping over, slicing up, and electrocuting a group of fodder enemies feel so right.

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Kitt
11/25/22 12:40:42 PM
#39:


Bump

I'm on the Speeder Bike mission. Is it as bad as you guys say?

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DarkBuster22904
11/25/22 12:42:51 PM
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Kitt posted...
Bump

I'm on the Speeder Bike mission. Is it as bad as you guys say?
No

It's worse

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Gobstoppers12
11/25/22 1:19:16 PM
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Kitt posted...
Bump

I'm on the Speeder Bike mission. Is it as bad as you guys say?
It's pretty wonky, not gonna lie. The vehicle system is floaty and not very precise, but if you're careful it shouldn't be too bad.

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Kitt
11/25/22 2:36:17 PM
#42:


Maybe this isn't the right level, because I was on the bike for less than a minute before I had to get off to continue the mission.

Edit: lol, nevermind. More bikes.

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Kitt
11/25/22 2:42:57 PM
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Holy shit, I think I see what you guys mean. Are the bikes programmed to be this bad on purpose or is this some kind of bug?
When I'm driving, it suddenly and aggressively strafes to the side entirely on its own. This shit is objectively not good.

It straight up feels like I'm lagging in a single player game.

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Dessan
11/25/22 2:45:26 PM
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DKBananaSlamma posted...
Outcast is a slog. It takes forever to get your lightsaber (and it's not the "building up to it" that's the problem. The building up part is really boring >_>). Most of the levels are mazes and have tiny switches you gotta find to open random doors, which gets annoying really quickly. And the literal 1st level you get to use your lightsaber in is this big open area with tons of long-range snipers. Seriously?

Jedi Academy is what Jedi Outcast failed to be: a masterpiece.


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Gobstoppers12
11/25/22 3:00:37 PM
#45:


Kitt posted...
When I'm driving, it suddenly and aggressively strafes to the side entirely on its own
The controls are extremely strange...there might be a mod out there somewhere that fixes it somehow, I haven't checked in like 15 years. But yes, the speeders are extremely wonky. That engine is not designed for vehicles, but they put vehicles in anyway lol

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TheGreatEscape
11/25/22 3:06:15 PM
#46:


Kitt posted...
Holy shit, I think I see what you guys mean. Are the bikes programmed to be this bad on purpose or is this some kind of bug?
When I'm driving, it suddenly and aggressively strafes to the side entirely on its own. This shit is objectively not good.

It straight up feels like I'm lagging in a single player game.

yeah the engine is clearly not designed to handle this shit lmao

at least it's fairly short and not THAT difficult to get through but it really is not fun

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GeneralKenobi85
11/25/22 3:24:48 PM
#47:


The bike is so awful that at least it ends up being amusing. The AI obviously has a lot of trouble handling it as well.

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Kitt
11/25/22 3:53:07 PM
#48:


TheGreatEscape posted...
yeah the engine is clearly not designed to handle this shit lmao

at least it's fairly short and not THAT difficult to get through but it really is not fun
This the sad part about it. This really could have been a really fun mission otherwise if the bike didn't have a mind of its own.

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Kitt
11/25/22 3:57:10 PM
#49:


10 seconds in and this acid rain mission can already eat my ass.

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Gobstoppers12
11/25/22 4:35:40 PM
#50:


GeneralKenobi85 posted...
The AI obviously has a lot of trouble handling it as well.
This is definitely the funniest part of it. The system was so wonky that even the NPCs don't know how to drive.

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