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Beveren_Rabbit
10/14/22 10:03:57 AM
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You're kicking your kids out of the house once they turn 18





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Umbreon
10/14/22 10:04:45 AM
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That's not really a thing anymore with how hard it is to get even a decent apartment, much less a house.

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_Rinku_
10/14/22 10:04:55 AM
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I'm never having kids, but anyone who kicks their kids out at 18 is a heartless monster. You're setting them up for failure. You're also shooting yourself in the foot because those kids are gonna be the ones who choose which nursing home you go to at the end of your life.
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gunplagirl
10/14/22 10:06:23 AM
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I'm not a piece of shit and I've read more than enough studies that show that doing things like that drastically lower their chances of escaping poverty as they'd be thrust immediately into that.

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Master_Bass
10/14/22 10:06:52 AM
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Nope. I have no plans to have kids at the moment, but if I did I wouldn't kick them out of the house at 18 or probably at all unless they did something awful.

My parents were quite kind to me and let me stay for as long as I wanted, and I'd extend the same to my children.

I want them to be able to build up wealth and not be thrust into the cruel world suddenly.

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Hayame_Zero
10/14/22 10:07:27 AM
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That very much is still a thing. I've had recent co-workers and classmates whose parents did that, and some did end up homeless.

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MixedRaceBaby
10/14/22 10:08:21 AM
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Yeah I never understood families who did this.

I love my son. As long as hes not a deadbeat neet or something, he can stay with the family as long as he wants.

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VeggetaX
10/14/22 10:09:19 AM
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I'm seeing kids coming back to live with their parents more now.

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PMarth2002
10/14/22 10:09:58 AM
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Probably not having kids, but no, I wouldn't do that.

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wackyteen
10/14/22 10:10:36 AM
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Lmao no.

By the time they're 18, it'll probably take a platoon size element of individuals to afford housing for a single family

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Kitt
10/14/22 10:16:56 AM
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No. While I'm all for encouraging self-sufficiency, they can stay as long as they need to if it helps lead them on the right path in the long run. The world sucks right now and I'm willing to give my kid all the help that they need.

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Solution_45
10/14/22 10:21:00 AM
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nah. i've always said that if i have kids, they can live with me for as long as they want, as long as they have jobs and help around the house.
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gunplagirl
10/14/22 10:24:10 AM
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wackyteen posted...
Lmao no.

By the time they're 18, it'll probably take a platoon size element of individuals to afford housing for a single family
It'll piss you off to find out that some cities are bringing back laws that prevents more than x number of non related individuals from living under the same roof. The laws have an origin in targeting women who lived together under the accusation that you'd only get 4+ non related women in an apartment together if they were engaging in prostitution or lesbianism. So you know, some really old effing laws.

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FaultyCircuitry
10/14/22 10:25:21 AM
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Anyone who does this shouldn't have been parents in the first place.

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R_Jackal
10/14/22 10:42:39 AM
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I don't honestly give a fuck if my kids stay in my house as long as they help out when they're adults. Especially if life is comparatively just as expensive as it is now. Legit just make it easier on everyone.

Shame there's a stigma about it, honestly. I mean if they just planning to stay there and not move their life along I will throw em out though, for they're own sake. Still help em out but give em a push to move their life along.
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asdf8562
10/14/22 10:45:01 AM
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Depends on the kid.

I'm not raising a complete bum on drugs or violent or hanging around dangerous criminals.

That type of child is gone at 18. Also despite the massive misconception, multiple factors go into how a child turns out.

The worlds best parents can still have rotten children due to multiple factors that can influence a child. In the end, children are not robots you can just program override to be good citizens.
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asdf8562
10/14/22 10:46:51 AM
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FaultyCircuitry posted...
Anyone who does this shouldn't have been parents in the first place.
There'd multiple good reasons to kick a child out.

The world isn't black and white.
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Ricemills
10/14/22 10:48:02 AM
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definitely no.

I'd encourage them to live by themselves if they can afford it, but they're always welcomed back at home as long they're not being a NEET.


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ROBANN_88
10/14/22 10:50:02 AM
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no, that would be a bit hypocritical.

i didn't get my first apartment until a bit into my 20's, simply cause of waiting on the housing queue

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TerraSeeker
10/14/22 10:53:12 AM
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Nope. I want my kids to grow up feeling safe and secure. Making them feel like they need to leave is messed up. They shouldn't be immediately burdened with massive expenses as soon as they turn an adult. I deally they will be able to use that extra time save so they have more power to make decisions in their lives.

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FaultyCircuitry
10/14/22 10:57:05 AM
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asdf8562 posted...
There'd multiple good reasons to kick a child out.

The world isn't black and white.

If your reason is "they turned 18" you're not fit to have ever been a parent.

Don't justify patterns of abuse because some circumstances might justify kicking someone out.

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
10/14/22 10:57:32 AM
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No, that's fucking stupid

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FigureOfSpeech
10/14/22 10:59:50 AM
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Beveren_Rabbit posted...
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Cagey
10/14/22 11:03:23 AM
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I would think many, maybe most, 18 year olds would still be in high school during at least part of their being 18.
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Funkydog
10/14/22 11:03:24 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
I'm not a piece of shit and I've read more than enough studies that show that doing things like that drastically lower their chances of escaping poverty as they'd be thrust immediately into that.


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asdf8562
10/14/22 11:11:45 AM
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FaultyCircuitry posted...
If your reason is "they turned 18" you're not fit to have ever been a parent.

Don't justify patterns of abuse because some circumstances might justify kicking someone out.
You're intentionally being dense now.

Like I said the world isn't black and white,... and there's a s*** ton of good reasons a child was kicked out at 18. Reasons that you know full damn well isn't only about them being 18.

To reply with, "Oh OnLy BeCaUsE tHeY wErE 18" is being intentionally dense. Same to your dancing over not all children kicked out at 18 isn't some tragic story of parental abuse or toxicity.

I specifically said it depends on the child on whether I'd kick the child out. Someone embracing criminal, terrorist, violent behaviors cannot stay in my home. Even then the things I mentioned above need further specifics on a case by case basis since all situations aren't created equally.

Bottom line is my child is not unconditionally living in my home once they turn 18.
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DespondentDeity
10/14/22 11:11:55 AM
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My parents kicked me out when I was 17 saying they couldnt afford me. Absolute garbage people

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FaultyCircuitry
10/14/22 11:14:01 AM
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asdf8562 posted...
You're intentionally being dense now.

Like I said the world isn't black and white,... and there's a shit ton of good reasons a child was kicked out at 18. Reasons that you know full damn well isn't only about them being 18.

To reply with, "Oh OnLy BeCaUsE tHeY wErE 18" is being intentionally dense. Same to your dancing over not all children kicked out at 18 isn't some tragic story of parental abuse or toxicity.

I specifically said it depends on the child on whether I'd kick the child out. Someone embracing criminal, terrorist, violent behaviors cannot stay in my home.

That wouldn't be because they turned 18 now is it? It's because they're engaging in destructive behavior that puts you and them at risk since parents are not social workers or crisis handlers.

The point is kicking your children out simply because they're 18 is abusive behavior.

Now either shut the fuck up and read what I actually wrote properly or go the fuck away.

Hope you aren't a parent.

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Glob
10/14/22 11:15:57 AM
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I got kicked out at 16, as did both of my brothers. If I have kids, theres no way Id do that to them. Theres not many things from my parents that Id want to copy for my own children.
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asdf8562
10/14/22 11:16:10 AM
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FaultyCircuitry posted...
That wouldn't be because they turned 18 now is it?
No it would not. If this child of mine who is a legal adult is acting a certain way inside my home that is dangerous to my me and my family, THAT would be why the child who is an adult was kicked out.

They were not kicked out "sImPlY bEcAuSe ThEy WeRe 18" nor is it abusive to kick such a dangerous human being out of the home.

You're intentionally being dense.
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Cleo_II
10/14/22 11:18:04 AM
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Of course not. Everything we do is to set up our daughter for success.
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FaultyCircuitry
10/14/22 11:19:52 AM
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asdf8562 posted...
No it would not. If this child of mine who is a legal adult is acting a certain way inside my home that is dangerous to my me and my family, THAT would be why the child who is an adult was kicked out.

You're being dense.

Then you are not in opposition to what I said. Stop acting like it.

I said that the issue was kicking them out because theyre 18. Not if you have a good reason to kick them and they're 18 that's bad.

Learn to fucking read.

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wackyteen
10/14/22 11:20:28 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
It'll piss you off to find out that some cities are bringing back laws that prevents more than x number of non related individuals from living under the same roof. The laws have an origin in targeting women who lived together under the accusation that you'd only get 4+ non related women in an apartment together if they were engaging in prostitution or lesbianism. So you know, some really old effing laws.

I'm typically pro-big government.

The government can fuck off here.

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asdf8562
10/14/22 11:24:00 AM
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FaultyCircuitry posted...
Then you are not in opposition to what I said. Stop acting like it.

I said that the issue was kicking them out because theyre 18. Not if you have a good reason to kick them and they're 18 that's bad.

Learn to fucking read.
Take your own advice. You responded to my post that specifically responded to the topic asking whether or not I would kick my kids out at 18 and you claiming any parent who'd kick a child out is bad.

I responded and explained in detail that it depends on the child. You specifically responded to my post, ignored everything I posted and decided to go down some strawman of, "Oh OnLy BeCaUsE tHeY wErE 18."

There was literally no point in you making such a post to what I specifically addressed and yet here we are. With you doubling down.

The broad conclusion that you made on anyone who kicked their child out at 18, did so literally and simply because they turned 18 is a bad assumption.
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Hoodroar
10/14/22 11:25:52 AM
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Not having kids but no I don't believe in that shit.

Families lived together until recently in history, and changing that is part of what made property costs explode.

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FaultyCircuitry
10/14/22 11:26:35 AM
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You'll find that it was you who responded to me first.

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asdf8562
10/14/22 11:27:46 AM
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FaultyCircuitry posted...
You'll find that it was you who responded to me first.

asdf8562 posted...
You responded to my post that specifically responded to the topic asking whether or not I would kick my kids out at 18 and you claiming any parent who'd kick a child out is bad.

I responded and explained in detail that it depends on the child. You specifically responded to my post, ignored everything I posted and decided to go down some strawman of, "Oh OnLy BeCaUsE tHeY wErE 18."
asdf8562 posted...
The broad conclusion that you made on anyone who kicked their child out at 18, did so literally and simply because they turned 18 is a bad assumption.
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PrettyBoyFloyd
10/14/22 11:30:58 AM
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Unless they're still going to school or something I'd expect them to be organized and still follow house rules.

Like if they wanted to do their own thing they'll have to get their own place.

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Smallville
10/14/22 11:31:19 AM
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tc, whose cat is that? that's an awesome picture

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The_shibe
10/14/22 11:32:32 AM
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children didn't ask to come into this world, know what I mean?

You bring this being with feelings and physical needs to this world, and then 18 years later you're like 'nope! See ya :D ' is kind of fucked up.

If I had kids I'd allow them to stay with me for as long as they need.

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Raikuro
10/14/22 11:33:09 AM
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Depends how annoying they turn out
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Will_VIIII
10/14/22 11:34:22 AM
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No provided they're not like in trouble with the law on a regular basis or something.

Though if they're approaching their late 20s and don't have some plan for independence a timeline might be set.

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epik_fail1
10/14/22 11:34:31 AM
#45:


If I had some, I would not "kick them" until they become self sufficient

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FaultyCircuitry
10/14/22 11:34:47 AM
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Who the fuck is this asdf clown?

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blackrider76
10/14/22 11:35:15 AM
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asdf8562 posted...
You're intentionally being dense now.

Like I said the world isn't black and white,... and there's a s*** ton of good reasons a child was kicked out at 18. Reasons that you know full damn well isn't only about them being 18.

To reply with, "Oh OnLy BeCaUsE tHeY wErE 18" is being intentionally dense. Same to your dancing over not all children kicked out at 18 isn't some tragic story of parental abuse or toxicity.

I specifically said it depends on the child on whether I'd kick the child out. Someone embracing criminal, terrorist, violent behaviors cannot stay in my home. Even then the things I mentioned above need further specifics on a case by case basis since all situations aren't created equally.

Bottom line is my child is not unconditionally living in my home once they turn 18.

If your child turned out to be such a dangerous individual, that would have been partially your fault regardless of them turning 18.

Kicking them out after that fact does not absolve you of being a shitty parent.

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t5yvxc
10/14/22 11:51:47 AM
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blackrider76 posted...
If your child turned out to be such a dangerous individual, that would have been partially your fault regardless of them turning 18.

Kicking them out after that fact does not absolve you of being a shitty parent.
That is objectively not true.

Your child is not a video game, program or robot you can master override. The point is, a parent can teach, guide and discipline but so much. In the end, a human will choose what type of human being they want to be regardless of what their parent or guardian taught them. On top of this, there are multiple influences that goes into what makes up the personality of a child later grown ass adult.

This misconception that a bad grown ass adult or even child is the result of bad parenting is a huge misconception.
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FaultyCircuitry
10/14/22 11:55:14 AM
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t5yvxc posted...
That is objectively not true.

You could have used a different word, but chose to use objectively incorrectly.

Good fucking job.

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t5yvxc
10/14/22 11:56:27 AM
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FaultyCircuitry posted...
You could have used a different word, but chose to use objectively incorrectly.

Good fucking job.
Thanks, as what that user claimed is not an objective fact lol.

How a child turns put is not always due to the parent or guardians actions.

You can have bad parents produce great children and good parents produce awful children. Children are human beings you can attempt to influence and guide, but ultimately they are at the drivers seat on the type of human they wish to be in the end.
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blackrider76
10/14/22 12:00:28 PM
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t5yvxc posted...
That is objectively not true.

Your child is not a video game, program or robot you can master override. The point is, a parent can teach, guide and discipline but so much. In the end, a human will choose what type of human being they want to be regardless of what their parent or guardian taught them. On top of this, there are multiple influences that goes into what makes up the personality of a child later grown ass adult.

This misconception that a bad grown ass adult or even child is the result of bad parenting is a huge misconception.

And who do you think is responsible for a child being exposed to and potentially radicalized by outside sources?

Theres a reason that parents who just give their kids a smartphone to entertain themselves so they dont have to babysit, and then they dont monitor their kids internet usage, are considered bad parents. Same with parents who dont keep track of their kids school life, such as the friends they make or if theyre getting bullied.

t5yvxc posted...
Thanks, as what that user claimed is not an objective fact lol.

How a child turns put is not always due to the parent or guardians actions.

You can have bad parents produce great children and good parents produce awful children. Children are human beings you can attempt to influence and guide, but ultimately they are at the drivers seat on the type of human they wish to be in the end.

Cool, that has nothing to do with what I said.

Parents are not the only influences in a kids life, correct.

Parents are responsible for what their kid is exposed to, also correct.

Therefore, if a kid turns out bad, that is partially their fault regardless.

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t5yvxc
10/14/22 12:06:21 PM
#52:


blackrider76 posted...
And who do you think is responsible for a child being exposed to and potentially radicalized by outside sources?

Theres a reason that parents who dont monitor their kids internet usage are considered bad parents.
Not just the parents. You seem to be posting from a place of privilege.

Not everyone is born with access to great internet or internet at all, food on the table, a safe roof over their head, a great education, a safe neighborhood and more.

On top of this one can't stop a child who wants to be rebellious and hang out with the wrong crowds. You have this binary, black and logic of thinking a parent can just force it. What works on one child does not work on all children.

Children are not robots you can program that will listen to every order you give it. This idea that a parent has control of what a child is exposed to is a massive misconception that comes from a place of great privilege.

Good parents produce bad children all the time.
Bad parents also produce great children all the time.

There is no magic formula in producing good children, and it's a massive misconception to assume how a child turned out had anything to do with the parent.
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