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DoomTheGyarados
05/10/22 6:58:37 PM
#1:


The former king, the man known as Lopen, stared at the current king Sbell with something akin to mild interest.

You are scum, Sbell declared as he ordered Lopens execution.

Lopen tilted his head to the side before giving a small smile. But of course I am, your majesty.

The gathered town members let out gasps of surprise. Lopen had been suspected of crimes for awhile now, but for him to brazenly admit it shocked them.

Lopen, for his part, turned to the folk scornfully. Oh, did you not like how I skinned the cat day one? Tough! The strong survive and the weak perish. I care not what you do with my lifeless corpse once this day is done but know this, fools, the cult shall swallow you whole. I tried to bring order to this town of ours. I tried to teach you lessons about respect and authority. Now watch as the cultists band together to and run amok. Then you be begging for my help, but I will be like, super dead!

The town, in their usual manner, didnt pay much heed to the screams of the former mad king and with little additional fanfare made his head take an extended leave of absence from his body.

Lopen has been Executed. He was Mafia Puppet Who Rolecopped N2 & N3

Later that night, as all was quiet, Sultans eyes shot open as he stared down the barrel of a gun.

So its you, Sultan said.

Yes, his attacker replied.

Sultan let out a mirthless laugh. I did pretty good this time, huh?

The attacker shrugged. I guess so. Any last words?

Sultan tilted his head. Just that I am glad I lived up to my flavor. Go fuck yourself, scum.

Noted.

Sultans brains didnt look as pretty as his final words did, but he at least died satisfied.

Sultan has been killed. He was That Guy Mafia Didnt See Coming, Town Roleblocker

Every game before proceedings get under way the mafia team will gather around and look at the player list and go x and y needs to be taken out early or this player can be left alive and manipulated and if mafia has their way then it is probably going to be a long way for town. Sometimes though, there is a player that none of the mafia know and they just push them off to the side. Ive been this person a few times in new communities where post game, after I ruined a mafias well laid plans, I go to the scum board and see I was a question mark. They didnt see me coming. If you play your cards right, this can be you. Make the Mafia suffer for underestimating your ability to turn the tide.

Every night you may target one player. They will be prevented from using any night actions unless otherwise specified. You win with Town

You may not paraphrase or claim your flavor, only your role.

Finally, Kirby has been modkilled for failing his objective. He was Town Sir Chris, Independent Know-It-All. His PM is fully redacted until post game.

The Living

1. Scare The Furry
2. changmas
3. htaeD
4.Sbell
5.Mzero
6.Red

Cresent - ED1 - Town Bus Driver
Ben - KN1 - Town Vanilla
Ulti - KN1 - Town Watcher
Tidus - ED2 - Town Cop
Sheep - KN2 - Town Vanilla
Plum - ED3 - Mafia Puppet Who Became Godfather Night One
Han - ED4 - Mafia Puppet Who Became Godfather Night One, rolecopped n2, and roleblockered n3
IGCD - KN4 - Town Bodyguard
Lopen - ED5 - Mafia Puppet Rolecop (N2 &N3)
Sultan - KN5 - Town Roleblocker
Kirby - MKN5 - Independent Know-It-All

With Six Alive it takes 3 to crown a King. Sbell can not be King today. You have until 7PM ET tomorrow to do so. You may now post.

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htaeD
05/10/22 7:02:28 PM
#2:


Uhrrr...
Well I guess its a good thing that the Independent is out of the way
But I think we all already expected it to be him anyway.
And now we have one less mislynch again

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Obellisk
05/10/22 7:03:17 PM
#3:


well, I guess Sultan didn't block right...

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Obellisk
05/10/22 7:03:32 PM
#4:


would have been nice to know who he planned on blocking.

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Obellisk
05/10/22 7:04:58 PM
#5:


Who wants to go down the "where is scums extra kill, oh its chang" hole with me?

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htaeD
05/10/22 7:05:09 PM
#6:


Also I have no idea why they spent so much points on rolecopping..
I had a thought overnight that maybe they were trying to find the roleblocker who roleblocked one of theirs Night1
But then I realized they could just have been after any form of townprotection

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htaeD
05/10/22 7:06:28 PM
#7:


Obellisk posted...
would have been nice to know who he planned on blocking.


Eh, I dont know if Chris wouldnt allow lone scum to double up on actions
And I think a scumRB still cancels out a townRB if the scum also has another ation?
I dunno how thats ruled normally

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Obellisk
05/10/22 7:07:11 PM
#8:


htaeD posted...
Eh, I dont know if Chris wouldnt allow lone scum to double up on actions
And I think a scumRB still cancels out a townRB if the scum also has another ation?
I dunno how thats ruled normally


that's a fair point.

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changmas
05/10/22 7:08:01 PM
#9:


well i guess kirby wasn't lying about logging off permanently

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changmas
05/10/22 7:08:15 PM
#10:


rest in peace, my cult leader

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htaeD
05/10/22 7:09:03 PM
#11:


I still trust Changmas myself, and you as well.

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Obellisk
05/10/22 7:09:45 PM
#12:


htaeD posted...
I still trust Changmas myself, and you as wpoint.

that's just it.

so do I.

I fear we have "towned" a scummate all game.


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htaeD
05/10/22 7:09:56 PM
#13:


Yeah I guess we will find out what went wrong there in the postgame. No need to speculate about that now.

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htaeD
05/10/22 7:11:58 PM
#14:


Lopen and Han both being scum also makes me conflicted about Scare
On one hand he still didn't need to defend either of them.
On the other hand, him defending Han sure looks a lot easier when he looks good if Lopen got killed instead.

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changmas
05/10/22 7:12:02 PM
#15:


has everyone claimed at this point? can't remember if we heard from all of Red, Scare, Mzero, and Death

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htaeD
05/10/22 7:12:35 PM
#16:


Yeah we all claimed nilla
Though I think red technically did that as a joke?

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changmas
05/10/22 7:13:10 PM
#17:


i mean that tracks, i really didn't expect anyone else to claim power at this point

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ScareChan
05/10/22 7:13:58 PM
#18:


If we miss today we no lynch tomorrow

or do we no lynch today in case there is still a double kill out there

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htaeD
05/10/22 7:14:11 PM
#19:


Also interesting that Lopen took no action N1

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changmas
05/10/22 7:14:57 PM
#20:


ScareChan posted...
If we miss today we no lynch tomorrow

or do we no lynch today in case there is still a double kill out there

i mean they're just killing Sbell tonight for sure. we're not gonna have any info tomorrow that we wouldn't have today

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ScareChan
05/10/22 7:15:21 PM
#21:


ScareChan posted...
If we miss today we no lynch tomorrow

or do we no lynch today in case there is still a double kill out there

actually this doesnt make sense today nvm

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htaeD
05/10/22 7:16:27 PM
#22:


I am starting to think there just arent any double kills out there

But either way I think scum will just shoot Sbell and Changmas if they do have a double shot

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htaeD
05/10/22 7:17:44 PM
#23:


On the plus side, I dont think we will lose much by nolynching NL if we reach Mylo and scum nokills.

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ScareChan
05/10/22 7:18:56 PM
#24:


I have been busy the last few real days and will be busy again soon

my thought right now is to look at MZero. Lopen had him in the loop of "If these people don't do what I ask Crescent dies" could have been the plan of having Mzero not post so Lopen could kill without issue, blame MZero, and Mzero just said he was busy (and yes me saying I have been busy sparked this thought)

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changmas
05/10/22 7:19:45 PM
#25:


i mean i agree, lopen flipping scum looks a lot worse for mzero than for anyone else imo

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Obellisk
05/10/22 7:23:33 PM
#26:


it's just too easy to lynch the most inactive.

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red13n
05/10/22 7:23:52 PM
#27:


I think the game dictates we just kill mzero/scare and be done with it either way.

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red13n
05/10/22 7:24:15 PM
#28:


If someone else is scum good job clapclapclap move on hurray.

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red13n
05/10/22 7:25:13 PM
#29:


Death can be scum too but we only get to pick two.

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Obellisk
05/10/22 7:25:45 PM
#30:


red13n posted...
If someone else is scum good job clapclapclap move on hurray.

I can't argue with that but I'd like to win. and certainly not give Han, Plum and Lopen a win

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ScareChan
05/10/22 7:30:12 PM
#31:


I think Lopen flipping scum should help my case a bit

unless you want to think that I hard defended Han openly and course corrected to Lopen as theater

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Obellisk
05/10/22 7:30:53 PM
#32:


ScareChan posted...
I think Lopen flipping scum should help my case a bit

unless you want to think that I hard defended Han openly and course corrected to Lopen as theater


I can't put it past you, but you wouldn't be my first choice today, if that makes you feel better.

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ScareChan
05/10/22 7:30:54 PM
#33:


was Lopen one of the people pro MZero being King day 1?

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ScareChan
05/10/22 7:31:59 PM
#34:


Han was pretty animated about MZero day 1 iirc, but he threw it out in futured days in what seemed like satire but could have been fishing

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changmas
05/10/22 7:33:42 PM
#35:


lopen did throw him out there yeah, but most people thought that was more of a tactic to prop himself up as a better candidate

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Obellisk
05/10/22 8:26:00 PM
#36:


gaining literally nothing from day 1 king votals. two Scum were the top candidates and even they didn't realize they needed a clear majority.

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red13n
05/10/22 8:41:02 PM
#37:


We know they didn't fully read most of the rules.

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red13n
05/10/22 10:21:15 PM
#38:


Actually, I wonder if we take kirby dying as modkill or actually dying for his role.

Because his role was independent know it all, he said he was going to guess Scare as scum and end the game.

So what if his role was to bet on who the final scum was(Or maybe guess the entire team at some point), and if he failed he paid for it with death/failure.

The fact it is considered a modkill gives me pause on this theory.

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MZero
05/10/22 11:06:37 PM
#39:


Well I'll be damned. Lopen got me good. I guess my scum not retracting fake claims is bunk

Lopen being scum looks worse for Scare. If Lopen was killed instead of Han, Scare looks better for defending Han and pushing for Lopen instead, thus making Han look better too. Also, iirc Lopen was the only guilty scanning player on Tidus' scum list

Kirby died for "failing his objective" but was also modkilled. Not really sure what to make of that. Failing in of itself doesn't seem like it warrants a modkill. Not much use speculating on it though

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MZero
05/10/22 11:08:57 PM
#40:


ScareChan posted...
was Lopen one of the people pro MZero being King day 1?

Lopen voted me because I 'gut' killed SBell in Elden Ring but walked in back when I said I actually had a read and it wasn't 100% gut. Han sarcastically said I would be a good king if you wanted a king who was absent. Chang I believe voted for me and red I think pushed it at some point as well

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red13n
05/11/22 3:12:54 AM
#41:


MZero posted...
Kirby died for "failing his objective" but was also modkilled. Not really sure what to make of that. Failing in of itself doesn't seem like it warrants a modkill. Not much use speculating on it though

Reading it, he died specifically for failing his objective. Modkilled is just what happens to make him die. Basically, no one "killed" him. He just didn't do his objective and it caused him to die.

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red13n
05/11/22 4:35:32 AM
#42:


Kirby321 posted... Well, the day is closing, and I might as well make a dramatic exit.

After tonight, I'm logging off. Permanently.
I lied about my secondary ability. I do have one. Once my armor breaks... I can sacrifice myself to kill someone. And I fully intend to kill Scare tonight.

And yet... if the game continues, then please do make it entertaining for us in the spectator stands. But I intend to put a stop to this madness tonight. We will be victo
Anyway, I think we should actually take this at face value.

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red13n
05/11/22 5:21:31 AM
#43:


So I think we just amend that to Mzero/Death, if chang made the hero play hurray clapclap etc.

If kirby's last act was to fuck town oh well.

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Obellisk
05/11/22 6:50:37 AM
#44:


So we've got 12 hours.

we need to start picking a King.

Who is everyone's top choice?

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htaeD
05/11/22 7:24:52 AM
#45:


Assuming we cannot just pick ourself
I say Changmas

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MZero
05/11/22 7:28:46 AM
#46:


Obellisk posted...
Who is everyone's top choice?

Me ofc
Changmas
Red
Scare
Death

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htaeD
05/11/22 7:29:34 AM
#47:


Ah so I am your top scum then Mzero?

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MZero
05/11/22 7:37:17 AM
#48:


htaeD posted...
Ah so I am your top scum then Mzero?

Yeah, although I'm not sure what to make of you coming in Day 2 declaring your intentions to kill Lopen if kinged. You did back off of it pretty quickly though

also iirc plum voted you pretty much immediately after

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htaeD
05/11/22 7:40:43 AM
#49:


Was kinda expecting reasons to suspect me instead of the opposite

Though I dont think I backed off quickly. And in part that was due to nobody else wanting to follow me (besides Plum for some odd reason yeah)

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MZero
05/11/22 7:44:00 AM
#50:


htaeD posted...
Kingvote: Death

I will run on the 'death to Lopen' platform, so vote me if you want him to die.
(Though I hope I am not the onle one)

masterplum posted...
Kingvote:Death

Busy right now, but going to reread back on Lopen and Ulti. Big question regarding lopen is how telegraphed his kill on crescent was. I want to try to figure out exactly when he decided to kill crescent.

Also vigs should never shoot N1 what the hell it always ends badly.

did scum come in with a plan to get death kinged? hmm

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