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mrduckbear 10/30/21 12:16:19 AM #1: |
Do you think a 19 y/o dating a 16 y/o should be illegal?
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He plead guilty to the murders back in February as the grisly triple murder took place at a Northern California home The AOC in California is 18 as Johnson was invited into the family's home on February 9 with permission of several minors who lived at the home Then later that night, when most of the house has gone to bed, Metcalf, the girl's stepfather, walked into Shelly's room to check o her and found Johnson and her having SEX He then attacked the teen and punched him once where he ran from the room with his PANTS DOWN and ran into the living room pulling his pants back up and screaming at him that he was a pedophile! Metcalf followed him out of the house's living area where Johnson then branded a handgun and shot him point blank range in the head... Johnson's Brother, Damon, a witness of the case spoke to his brother after the shooting and claims it was "self defense" because he stepped to him closely aggressively and soht him. The girl's biological mother, Moon, awoke from the gunfire and looked outside where Johnson then shot her as well. Johnson then went up to the girl's bedroom to find a scared Shelly who begged him not to kill her but shot her as well so there would be no "witnesses" After the chilling murders, Johnson fled the state traveling with his mother, Melissa Sanchez and her then boyfriend, Von Keener to cross state lines A major crimes unit was called into as police swarmed the state looking for the murder and enlisting help from Nevada and Utah Utah Patrol were notified of the murderer and an hour and 15 minutes in, a trooper found his vehicle. They had a plan to start a traffic stop but their vehicle refused and kept going before hitting spikes on the road that forced all 3 occupants out of the vehicle The teen plead guilty to avoid a life in prison without parole sentence and now face but now will go to prison until he dies Do you think a 19 y/o dating a 16 y/o is inappropriate? Killer - https://i.imgur.com/4JT5vA7.jpg https://i.imgur.com/nWKqj1c.png https://i.imgur.com/eidjZl1.jpg Victims - https://i.imgur.com/wL0RpwM.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Vymsw2d.jpg https://i.imgur.com/BFVYMJ2.jpg https://i.imgur.com/79op3Mr.jpg Aided Killer - https://i.imgur.com/mZwc6Qm.jpg --- The Users have Spoken. News Will Continue...For Now ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smackems 10/30/21 12:17:37 AM #2: |
Looks the type
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Gobstoppers12 10/30/21 12:19:21 AM #3: |
mrduckbear posted...
Johnson was invited into the family's home on Ferfuary 9 with permission of several inors who lived at the homegood lord, dude --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Duncanwii 10/30/21 12:34:10 AM #5: |
"Well I'm probably going to jail for rape, so let's add 3 murder charges onto it that will help me."
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Smackems 10/30/21 12:40:57 AM #6: |
Yeah duckbear you fucked this one up with typos lol
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Zikten 10/30/21 12:42:19 AM #7: |
Duncanwii posted...
"Well I'm probably going to jail for rape, so let's add 3 murder charges onto it that will help me." Sounds like he went into a panic of bad decisions that kept growing ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Krave_ 10/30/21 12:45:21 AM #8: |
That sucks, the dad looked cool as fuck
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Hoodroar 10/30/21 12:47:21 AM #9: |
No other dude's ever having a sleepover in any house I run. You can't trust these fuckers.
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s_a_r_a_h 10/30/21 12:47:56 AM #10: |
im sorry, but where did you get that they were dating? its rape
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Smackems 10/30/21 12:47:58 AM #11: |
Hoodroar posted...
No other dude's ever having a sleepover in any house I run. You can't trust these fuckers.These fuckers --- Common sense charged before shipping - some dude ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 10/30/21 1:31:12 AM #13: |
ArmieBuff posted...
The dad's also a creep. He was checking on his 16 year old stepdaughter while she was sleeping and then reacted with violence when he saw them. If the story here is accurate then he's partially responsible for this tragedy. Boyfriend is a complete monster but the dad was pretty psychotic as well.What? --- All posters and events depicted in this post are entirely fictitious. Any similarity to actual events or posters, living or dead, is purely coincidental. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prismsblade 10/30/21 1:32:49 AM #14: |
ArmieBuff posted...
The dad's also a creep. He was checking on his 16 year old stepdaughter while she was sleeping and then reacted with violence when he saw them. If the story here is accurate then he's partially responsible for this tragedy. Boyfriend is a complete monster but the dad was pretty psychotic as well.Seems like a perfectly reasonable reaction to me, and you're assuming he checked in on his daughter without reason assumably because....why? --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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David1988 10/30/21 1:34:42 AM #15: |
I sometimes wonder if duckbear intentionally makes those typos just to see if anyone is actually reading them
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deoxxys 10/30/21 1:43:21 AM #17: |
The boyfriend was a psychopath and deserves to rot in jail.
However....while that was a massive over-reaction on his part, I think there is a root problem here being how we view teenagers as children. Most teens, especially girls, are having sex as young as 14. Most of the first world countries have set the age of consent set to 16 (even the usa is 2/3), and thats how it should be, if anyone REALLY thinks this is too low then just add a 4 year romeo and juliet gap. The older party in this situation should not have to worry about being charged with statutory rape, when it literally could have been someone they went to highschool with and took classes alongside. Three year difference? He's a pedophile? lmao. I hate that I had to say this in a topic where the guy is one of the worst possible human beings but America could do with revising their age of consent laws federally. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sphyx 10/30/21 1:44:15 AM #18: |
What a dumbshit thing to do.
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skermac 10/30/21 1:52:34 AM #19: |
I think it depends on the situation on if its too old for example there are 19 yo guys still in hs dating classmates that are 16 or younger, I think in hs every one is way to immature to care about age, I mean they will be hanging out anyway to work on projects and probably having sex, you know how it is in hs
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epik_fail1 10/30/21 1:55:25 AM #20: |
I think a 3 years gap is still morally acceptable, but limit at this age. Problem is not really the age gap, but the age of the younger person. Anyway his crime is way worse than the moral discussion about what the romeo and juliet law should be.
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Gobstoppers12 10/30/21 2:08:25 AM #21: |
deoxxys posted...
Most teens, especially girls, are having sex as young as 14. Most of the first world countries have set the age of consent set to 16 (even the usa is 2/3), and thats how it should bebruh why would you do this --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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deoxxys 10/30/21 2:17:44 AM #22: |
Gobstoppers12 posted...
bruh why would you do thisState how most of the US, Europe and other third world countries have their Aoc set to 16? State the truth? No matter how much adults stick their fingers in their ears and go blablabla, the truth is its quite common for teenagers to have sex as young as 13/14. Obviously thats too young of an aoc (even if third world countries have AoCs that low). But lets not pretend that teens dont have sex. In highschool its seen as a goal to lose your virginity before you graduate. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Turtlebread 10/30/21 2:24:26 AM #23: |
This guy is an absolute brainlet
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Prismsblade 10/30/21 2:27:23 AM #24: |
ArmieBuff posted...
It didn't say there was a reason. A parent who routinely checks on their late teen children while they're sleeping is a helicopter parent and then attacking them when they find them having sex, which is natural at that age, is textbook overprotective shitty parent. This is of course reading the story at face value.Where was it mentioned this was a routine of his? He could have heard noises from her room and suspected something, or maybe it was just a gut feelings. Jumping to him being a creep and trying to deflect blame from the actual murderer is pretty messed up. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MARKINGRAM22 10/30/21 2:28:07 AM #25: |
Aren't their Romeo and Juliette laws anyways? The crazy thing is he likely would have face no consequences, yet 3 people are now dead.
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MARKINGRAM22 10/30/21 2:28:51 AM #26: |
ArmieBuff posted...
The dad's also a creep. He was checking on his 16 year old stepdaughter while she was sleeping and then reacted with violence when he saw them. If the story here is accurate then he's partially responsible for this tragedy. Boyfriend is a complete monster but the dad was pretty psychotic as well.The fuck kind of disability do you have? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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12amMadman 10/30/21 2:30:44 AM #27: |
Should just execute him tbh
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Feline 10/30/21 2:38:54 AM #28: |
Im confused is there some reason a 19 year old and a 16 year old cant have sex in the US? I thought the AOC was pretty much 16 over there like it is on most of the western world.
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Feline 10/30/21 2:50:42 AM #30: |
ArmieBuff posted...
The point is that checking on your children while they're sleeping is creepy and overprotective if they're in their late teens unless there's actual screaming or something. I dont think theres anything wrong with checking in on your 16 year old kid at home if its done in a non creepy way. But doing it when theyve got someone sleeping over isnt cool. Maybe the daughter didnt tell her parents she was having someone over or parents said she couldnt and she didnt respect them and did anyway. Like most of these topics theres too much room for people to make assumptions based to fit their preconceived opinions. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Feline 10/30/21 2:58:55 AM #32: |
ArmieBuff posted...
OP said the BF was invited. idk, the way the OP says that stepdad goes to check on her after everyone already went to bed just gives off very uncomfortable vibes. And he just goes into the room without knocking too. Honestly, the couple should've locked their doors. the kid is 16 not in her mid 20s lmao ... Copied to Clipboard!
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deoxxys 10/30/21 3:00:19 AM #33: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Aren't their Romeo and Juliette laws anyways? The crazy thing is he likely would have face no consequences, yet 3 people are now dead.Just googled it and apparently California does not have R&J laws. Feline posted... Im confused is there some reason a 19 year old and a 16 year old cant have sex in the US? I thought the AOC was pretty much 16 over there like it is on most of the western world.@Feline No because America is stupid, this is what our AoC map looks like: No it doesnt matter that 2/3rds of our countries aoc is 16, everyone still thinks that its 18, Im thinking because most movies/cinema/etc comes out of California where the aoc is 18. So basically even if its not illegal, having sex with someone who isnt 18 is social suicide. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Feline 10/30/21 3:02:42 AM #34: |
As a Brit Im confused as I always thought cali was fairly progressive.
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Feline 10/30/21 3:09:05 AM #36: |
ArmieBuff posted...
Yeah, most 16 year olds drive, work, and babysit. They don't need their parents checking what they're doing while they're sleeping. And I don't know any non-harsh parents who don't knock before going into the room. if I thought my girl was being raped by an older man Id go in as well. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrAntisocial 10/30/21 3:21:51 AM #39: |
deoxxys posted...
No because America is stupid, this is what our AoC map looks like: That map is misleading. In Wisconsin the age of consent is 18. There is a romeo and juliet law that makes it a misdemeanor for someone 19 or younger to have sex with a minor who is at least 16 years old. If one was 16 and the other was 19, it would be a misdemeanor until the 19 year old turns 20 and then it's considered a felony. Either way, the older person will be going to jail for awhile. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Feline 10/30/21 3:22:47 AM #40: |
ArmieBuff posted...
Her teen boyfriend? Without knocking? Story doesn't indicate that there was anything suggesting rape going on either. so we arent including statutory rape as rape now? Ok were done. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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fhqwhgads 10/30/21 3:23:45 AM #41: |
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Feline 10/30/21 3:39:25 AM #44: |
ArmieBuff posted...
You yourself implied you thought their laws were backwards. If we're going by laws, then him assaulting the BF is a crime as well. Yes him assaulting the guy is also a crime. I dont have an issue with that. But that doesnt mean I agree with you he deserved to be shot in the head. Look Ma! I can make strawman arguments as well! I bet you thought you had a real good gotcha there didnt you bro. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Feline 10/30/21 3:45:42 AM #46: |
VioletMassacre posted...
They were boyfriend and girlfriend, both teens with only three years between them. The fact that it can even be considered *anything* rape is beyond backwards and CA needs to get its shit together. This could've easily been prevented with more logical and open laws. Also, what the did the father think? That they would just hold hands? >_> cant say I agree with the laws I am happy to admit that but the law is the law. I dont get to break any law just because I find it stupid. shooting the dad I can just about understand (even if I dont agree) if he was assaulting the boyfriend but the mum and daughter? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Feline 10/30/21 3:50:49 AM #48: |
Lmao so you do actually beleive that. Damn it wasnt even a strawman then
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Feline 10/30/21 3:58:52 AM #50: |
ArmieBuff posted...
What strawman? If you're talking about "he deserved to be shot in the head" obviously I don't believe that and I didn't address that because I figured you were intentionally making a strawman we both know is dumb. That's not relevant to my point your point is just to take a contrary view of everything. You dont even know what you really do beleive anymore. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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