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Antifar 10/19/21 12:33:38 PM #1: |
https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-oped-biden-plays-hardball-with-black-lives-matter-20211019-37fgfctxorhzpcvvnpf7wqrmh4-story.html
This time last year, during the final presidential debate, Joe Biden promised to fundamentally change the administration of criminal justice if elected. That change is much needed on issues ranging from police misconduct to excessive sentences to racial disparities in arrests, charges and punishment. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gwynevere 10/19/21 12:36:11 PM #3: |
Just a neolib doing neolib shit
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Doe 10/19/21 12:39:14 PM #4: |
Uhhhh the charge is throwing a molotov cocktail (AKA, a firebomb). It's not like people holding signs are getting charged for terrorism
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FL81 10/19/21 12:40:25 PM #5: |
thanks Obama
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY 10/19/21 12:43:53 PM #6: |
Doe posted...
Uhhhh the charge is throwing a molotov cocktail (AKA, a firebomb). It's not like people holding signs are getting charged for terrorismYes but if they are part of BLM they are peaceful protesters even though they burned places of business down and looted others. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 10/19/21 12:46:49 PM #7: |
Article: They totally did crimes and should be punished, but at the state level, not federally.
Rational People: Clearly people are saying they did no crimes! --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alteres 10/19/21 12:47:21 PM #8: |
Doe posted...
Uhhhh the charge is throwing a molotov cocktail (AKA, a firebomb). It's not like people holding signs are getting charged for terrorismDude, molotovs are weak. Half the time they don't even kill everyone in the room and you end up setting yourself on fire anyway. --- ........the ghost in the machine... IGN: Fox, FC: 5344-2646-0982 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gwynevere 10/19/21 12:47:39 PM #9: |
Doe posted...
Uhhhh the charge is throwing a molotov cocktail (AKA, a firebomb). It's not like people holding signs are getting charged for terrorismDidn't read the article huh This is a property damage issue, not terrorism. The car the molotov was thrown at was abandoned --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 10/19/21 12:50:53 PM #10: |
Doe posted...
Uhhhh the charge is throwing a molotov cocktail (AKA, a firebomb). It's not like people holding signs are getting charged for terrorismAnd as the article notes, similar cases unrelated to protests have not resulted in terrorism charges https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/brooklyn-residents-plead-guilty-conspiring-commit-arson-connection-burning-nypd --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 10/19/21 12:54:55 PM #11: |
Alteres posted...
Dude, molotovs are weak.Oh I guess terrorism only applies to really successful terrorism --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 10/19/21 12:58:30 PM #12: |
Doe posted...
Oh I guess terrorism only applies to really successful terrorismTerrorism applies to whatever people want it to apply to, as we've seen over the years. Depending on where you stood, incredible terrorism was committed upon a particular country during "Operation Iraqi Freedom". --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EmbraceOfDeath 10/19/21 12:59:02 PM #13: |
Doe posted...
Uhhhh the charge is throwing a molotov cocktail (AKA, a firebomb). It's not like people holding signs are getting charged for terrorism RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... Yes but if they are part of BLM they are peaceful protesters even though they burned places of business down and looted others.Learn to read. --- PSN/GT: BigDaffej ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nemu 10/19/21 1:02:43 PM #14: |
Using anything more than fists during a violent encounter during a protest or political movement falling under terrorism seems fine by me. Fire is super fucking dangerous, so fuck them. That the car was empty means fucking nothing.
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Gobstoppers12 10/19/21 1:10:45 PM #15: |
Antifar posted...
an extraordinarily rare and harsh tool that applies only when the offense was calculated to influence or affect the conduct of government by intimidation or coercion, or to retaliate against government conductI mean.... what would you call fire bombing a police car to protest the police? Police act in service to the law, which is an extension of the government. I find it pretty audacious that this person is advocating "little if no jail time" for the offense. Torch a police car worth tens of thousands of dollars? No big deal, slap on the wrist. Is that really the message he wants to send? Destruction of somebody else's property should be a big deal. Especially when it's done to try to force changes to the law or government. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hitokoriX 10/19/21 1:17:14 PM #16: |
Gobstoppers12 posted...
I mean.... what would you call fire bombing a police car to protest the police? Police act in service to the law, which is an extension of the government. Then that literally can't be terrorism. Terrorism is violence, or the threat of violence (can include cyber violence), against civilian targets for a political purpose. Cops are not civilians. --- Would you follow a blind man? I would if I was in the dark ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 10/19/21 1:21:08 PM #17: |
Gobstoppers12 posted...
I find it pretty audacious that this person is advocating "little if no jail time" for the offense. Torch a police car worth tens of thousands of dollars? No big deal, slap on the wrist.As noted in the article, similar cases have been treated as simple arson, with a max sentence of 5 years. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ElatedVenusaur 10/19/21 1:22:48 PM #18: |
Antifar posted...
As noted in the article, similar cases have been treated as simple arson, with a max sentence of 5 years.Yeah, terrorism laws exist primarily to railroad people the state doesn't like, essentially. --- She/her ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 10/19/21 1:23:47 PM #19: |
hitokoriX posted...
Terrorism is violence, or the threat of violence (can include cyber violence), against civilian targets for a political purpose. Cops are not civilians.Are you just making shit up? Terrorism doesn't have to target civilians to be terrorism. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 10/19/21 1:26:24 PM #20: |
hitokoriX posted...
Cops are not civilians.The case could be made that they're an occupying force. Gobstoppers12 posted... Are you just making shit up? Terrorism doesn't have to target civilians to be terrorism.Speaking of making shit up. --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nemu 10/19/21 1:29:09 PM #21: |
I don't see any definition of terrorism limiting it to civilians. The definition generated by Google at best has "especially against civilians," while the FBI's page makes no mention of it whatsoever.
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Southernfatman 10/19/21 1:29:32 PM #22: |
Democrats also want to keep the status quo along with protecting their enforcers.
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Lordgold666 10/19/21 3:29:30 PM #23: |
Lol @ being buttmad that the shoe fits
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Gamerguymass 10/19/21 3:35:44 PM #24: |
Throwing a molotov during the middle of a riot is absolutely terrorism.
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