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Kitt
03/16/21 10:33:07 AM
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Why are the DBZ writers garbage at handling their characters in general?

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Heartomaton
03/16/21 10:34:23 AM
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It's a series from the 80's about screaming and punching people.

Turn off your brain and enjoy the violence.

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Returning_CEmen
03/16/21 10:34:42 AM
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Bulma has always been relevant
18, like all other minor characters gets her shine every once in a while.
Chi Chi and Videl is pretty much forgotten
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DarkChozoGhost
03/16/21 10:35:25 AM
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18 is the only one that was a relevant fighter before having a kid and she's gotten almost as many battles as Krillen since she had her kid

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LostForest
03/16/21 10:35:49 AM
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Don't even get me started with the way they ruined Videl. She had so much potential to have a neat character arc of "Hey, watch this normal human learn to fight, from the best, and become one of the Z fighters."

And instead they were like "Actually nah she just becomes mom 3."

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FortuneCookie
03/16/21 10:38:30 AM
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It stinks, but it doesn't surprise me. It was the 80s. It's like asking why Smurfette was the only female Smurf. The simplest answer is that it was a different time period.
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Irony
03/16/21 10:44:24 AM
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Bulma was always a sideline character

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Pome
03/16/21 10:45:11 AM
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Why can't they introduce a new female character that loves to fight and is young and becomes romantically involved with goku causing problems at home with chichi and gohan in the middle of it OMG
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monkmith
03/16/21 10:46:03 AM
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...CaNcEl DBZ!!!!!

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Kitt
03/16/21 10:47:33 AM
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Heartomaton posted...
It's a series from the 80's about screaming and punching people.

Turn off your brain and enjoy the violence.
You don't have my vote in 2028 smh

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Heartomaton
03/16/21 10:48:58 AM
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Kitt posted...
You don't have my vote in 2028 smh

Fine. Vote for more of the same!

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Kitt
03/16/21 10:52:01 AM
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monkmith posted...
...CaNcEl DBZ!!!!!
Yes. Cancel it for being a trash-tier show since 1989.

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BignutzisBack
03/16/21 10:53:33 AM
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Heartomaton posted...
It's a series from the 80's about screaming and punching people.

Turn off your brain and enjoy the violence.

Lmao

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Scotty_Rogers
03/16/21 10:55:26 AM
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It's a series created by a misogynistic social misfit for other misogynistic social misfits.

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Solar_Crimson
03/16/21 10:55:32 AM
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80's shonen manga + Japanese cultural views over gender roles

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LightHawKnight
03/16/21 10:59:54 AM
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LostForest posted...
Don't even get me started with the way they ruined Videl. She had so much potential to have a neat character arc of "Hey, watch this normal human learn to fight, from the best, and become one of the Z fighters."

And instead they were like "Actually nah she just becomes mom 3."

Eh, DBZ was all about the Saiyans, so a regular human would have dropped off regardless of gender.

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apolloooo
03/16/21 11:13:28 AM
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Kitt posted...
DBZ writers garbage


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AzurexNightmare
03/16/21 11:41:35 AM
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Heartomaton posted...
It's a series from the 80's about screaming and punching people.

Turn off your brain and enjoy the violence.
That's too hard for people to do. If I explained why they don't have that capacity, I'd get modded for something stupid. But they just can't.

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smoke_break
03/16/21 11:45:57 AM
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I mean, can't really get sidelined when you're already a side character.

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Duncanwii
03/16/21 11:48:40 AM
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At least they arent Launch. Come Z Toriyama just outright forgot she existed.
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CM_Ponch
03/16/21 11:58:19 AM
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Who outside of Chi Chi?

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Solar_Crimson
03/16/21 12:22:54 PM
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CM_Ponch posted...
Who outside of Chi Chi?
Videl and Android 18.
Oh, and Bulma as well.

A18 and Bulma at least got more action in Super, though.

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Ivynn
03/16/21 12:25:36 PM
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You shouldn't expect good writing or character development out of Dragonball lol

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Unit7
03/16/21 12:27:29 PM
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Probably a bit of misogyny mixed in with prioritizing fan favorites.

Not trying to insult the series or hate on it. Not saying you shouldnt or cant enjoy it.
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Kitt
03/16/21 12:27:47 PM
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Ivynn posted...
You shouldn't expect good writing or character development out of Dragonball lol
It's a shame.

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EmbraceOfDeath
03/16/21 12:29:25 PM
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People always have to make issues where there are none. You know who else got sidelined after being relevant for a while? Pretty much everyone who isn't Goku or Vegeta. Piccolo and Gohan remain slightly relevant too, but just barely by the end.

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Solar_Crimson
03/16/21 12:29:27 PM
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And then there's Pan, who while of course she didn't have any kids during the course of the show, basically just became a cheerleader for Goku, despite all the potential she showed off at the End of Z tournament.

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Kitt
03/16/21 12:32:57 PM
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EmbraceOfDeath posted...
People always have to make issues where there are none.
There is an issue: DBZ (or whatever it calls itself now). Actual trash.

You know who else got sidelined after being relevant for a while? Pretty much everyone who isn't Goku or Vegeta.
Yes. That was the implication with the OP.

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smoke_break
03/16/21 12:34:49 PM
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Unit7 posted...
Probably a bit of misogyny mixed in with prioritizing fan favorites.
Misogyny?

You guys are really reaching here...

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sabin017
03/16/21 12:39:00 PM
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Pome posted...
Why can't they introduce a new female character that loves to fight and is young and becomes romantically involved with goku causing problems at home with chichi and gohan in the middle of it OMG
Sounds like Caulifla. Who knows what would happen between her and Goku if they weren't in an arena.

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Solar_Crimson
03/16/21 12:41:34 PM
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smoke_break posted...
Misogyny?

You guys are really reaching here...
It's not so much misogyny as it is Japanese cultural norms on gender roles, especially in the 80's/90's.

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Questionmarktarius
03/16/21 12:42:36 PM
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Oolong had a kid?
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LostForest
03/16/21 12:45:23 PM
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Honestly it's a good example of how even though Toriyama is good at writing stories about wacky space superheroes who shoot lasers out of their hands, he's still a boomer who, at the end of the day, emphasizes the utmost importance of a strong, traditional, nuclear family.

Still tho. Keep that noise out of my shonen lol. Even my wife hated the parts of Super that focus on baby Pan.

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NeonOctopus
03/16/21 12:48:40 PM
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idk Bulma still got plenty of screen time.

Chi chi was never a major character. She was in like 3 episodes in DB before the time skip and was just here and there in Z anyway >_>

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Solar_Crimson
03/16/21 12:49:55 PM
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LostForest posted...
he's still a boomer who, at the end of the day, emphasizes the utmost importance of a strong, traditional, nuclear family.
Which is funny, because Goku is gone half the time, wasn't around for the births of either of his sons, and has never even kissed his own wife.

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Kitt
03/16/21 12:50:12 PM
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LostForest posted...
Toriyama is good at writing stories


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K181
03/16/21 12:52:01 PM
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They sidelined almost all of their characters for the most part.

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LostForest
03/16/21 12:52:10 PM
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Kitt posted...
shitpost

You left out the second half of that sentence.

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Kitt
03/16/21 12:53:06 PM
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K181 posted...
They sidelined almost all of their characters for the most part.
That's the implication in the OP.

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ROOTFayth
03/16/21 12:53:31 PM
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bad take TC
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Ivynn
03/16/21 12:53:45 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Which is funny, because Goku is gone half the time, wasn't around for the births of either of his sons, and has never even kissed his own wife.

Literal Vegeta is a better father than Goku.

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LightHawKnight
03/16/21 12:56:28 PM
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Ivynn posted...
Literal Vegeta is a better father than Goku.

And a better husband.

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Questionmarktarius
03/16/21 1:05:13 PM
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Ivynn posted...
Literal Vegeta is a better father than Goku.
So is King Cold, somehow.
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CM_Ponch
03/16/21 2:25:55 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Videl and Android 18.
Oh, and Bulma as well.

A18 and Bulma at least got more action in Super, though.
Videl was sidelined way before motherhood tho and Super takes place during her pregnancy and immediately after Pan's birth. There's nowhere for her to do anything. 18 mogged the tournament and blackmailed Hercule. And then she got turned into chocolate protecting her daughter. Bulma was never the action girl and is constantly the third most important character behind Goku and Vegeta.

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sLaCkEr408___RJ
03/16/21 2:28:12 PM
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CM_Ponch posted...
Bulma was never the action girl and is constantly the third most important character behind Goku and Vegeta.
Bulma is more important than Vegeta
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Questionmarktarius
03/16/21 2:37:04 PM
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It's Dragonball. Anyone who isn't Goku or Vegeta or the current big bad ends up sidelined and/or dead pretty quickly, and even Goku doesn't stay alive very often.

When was the last time Oolong or Puar got to do anything?
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Prestoff
03/16/21 2:43:49 PM
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Lets not act like the Dragon Ball series had good writing to begin with. Most people watching it are just there for the screaming and dumb action.

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BlackHorse6969
03/16/21 2:52:04 PM
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because that is what happens to pregnant women. why dont you ask this question in real life

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