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teepan95 01/16/21 4:20:12 AM #1: |
Interviews with more than 20 current and former CD Projekt staff, most of whom requested anonymity so as not to risk their careers, depict a development process marred by unchecked ambition, poor planning and technical shortcomings. Employees, discussing the games creation for the first time, described a company that focused on marketing at the expense of development, and an unrealistic timeline that pressured some into working extensive overtime long before the final push. CD Projekt declined to comment on the process or provide interviews for this story. https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2021-01-16/cyberpunk-2077-what-caused-the-video-game-s-disastrous-rollout (more in the article) Pretty damning stuff tbh --- teep dumb as f*** fr - BatmanVonDoom I'm gonna pound a 400 lb woman just to prove teep wrong - NigerianKnight ... Copied to Clipboard!
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legendarylemur 01/16/21 4:29:54 AM #2: |
Not really surprising, bit off more than they can chew
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Sictis 01/16/21 4:33:42 AM #3: |
teepan95 posted...
What they didnt know was that the demo was almost entirely fake. CD Projekt hadnt yet finalized and coded the underlying gameplay systems, which is why so many features, such as car ambushes, were missing from the final product. Developers said they felt like the demo was a waste of months that should have gone toward making the game.Lmao, what a fucking shitshow. --- Maggot of metal, rust, and rot... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 01/16/21 4:34:25 AM #4: |
Lol
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IndustrialTrudg 01/16/21 4:39:49 AM #5: |
They spent months on a demo that wasnt actually game?
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legendarylemur 01/16/21 5:12:38 AM #6: |
Demo for reveals and showcases for investors is standard practices, but making a light-show demo to entice investors (who promptly sued after being tricked lmao) and actively hurting your own dev time is major lawls
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008Zulu 01/16/21 6:31:41 AM #7: |
What evidence is there that the demo was faked?
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teepan95 01/16/21 7:02:11 AM #8: |
Lol
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teepan95 01/16/21 10:06:06 AM #9: |
Up
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Sictis 01/16/21 10:06:28 AM #10: |
No ones cares anymore.
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Funkydog 01/16/21 10:09:04 AM #11: |
You'd think after Bioware's Anthem and Andromeda game companies would learn to not repeat the same mistakes. But I guess not.
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Hexenherz 01/16/21 10:14:35 AM #13: |
Thanks for reminding me I need to finish this game sometime.
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DravenRainrix 01/16/21 10:25:29 AM #15: |
They done Sean Murrayed it.
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teepan95 01/16/21 12:27:52 PM #16: |
Funkydog posted...
You'd think after Bioware's Anthem and Andromeda game companies would learn to not repeat the same mistakes. But I guess not. Developers. Developers never change --- teep dumb as f*** fr - BatmanVonDoom I'm gonna pound a 400 lb woman just to prove teep wrong - NigerianKnight ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 01/16/21 2:17:59 PM #17: |
teepan95 posted...
Developers. Developers never changeNah, I think the devs are well aware. But the higher ups continue to not care and a choice of being jobless or not means many will just suck it up. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Aki_Sora 01/16/21 2:22:19 PM #18: |
Lol shit company
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Sictis 01/16/21 2:39:24 PM #19: |
I don't think you said 'shit' enough times
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Ivynn 01/16/21 2:42:02 PM #20: |
So now CDPR is in the same boat as Bioware and Bethesda.
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Sictis 01/16/21 2:43:01 PM #21: |
From Software
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steveoSEK 01/16/21 2:44:25 PM #22: |
I felt witcher 1 and 2 were 7/10 games with decent stories. Cyberpunk is a 7/10 game too if it didn't have all the bugs. Witcher 3 was a fluke. It was carried by its outstanding writing and setting, but it's combat was ass. They got lucky with witcher 3 and it went to their heads.
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teepan95 01/16/21 3:39:58 PM #23: |
Ivynn posted...
Are there any heroes left Even Supergiant did some sus stuff recently --- teep dumb as f*** fr - BatmanVonDoom I'm gonna pound a 400 lb woman just to prove teep wrong - NigerianKnight ... Copied to Clipboard!
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andri_g 01/16/21 4:37:30 PM #24: |
"Another indication of how CD Projekt stretched things too far was that it tried to develop the engine technology behind Cyberpunk 2077, most of which was brand new, simultaneously with the game, which slowed down production. One member of the team compared the process to trying to drive a train while the tracks are being laid in front of you at the same time. It might have gone more smoothly if the track-layers had a few months head start."
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2021-01-16/cyberpunk-2077-what-caused-the-video-game-s-disastrous-rollout . This was a surprise? Yoshinori Kitase in a 2010 interview on developing the Crystal Tools engine while developing Final Fantasy games said: "I think that instead of developing something completely new, we would try our hand at improving upon existing technology. Tools and engines improve through a process of trial and error and countless revisions, and thats what really makes them more efficient." https://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2010/03/10/the-making-of-final-fantasy-xiii.aspx . Cyberpunk 2077 has more growing pains to go through. Anyone who chose/chooses to get it right away will have to suffer along with them. --- '~' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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teepan95 01/16/21 5:12:43 PM #25: |
Their arrogance is staggering
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teepan95 01/18/21 1:04:46 AM #26: |
Bump
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pogo_rabid 01/18/21 1:06:41 AM #27: |
Kinda sick of hearing about all the dogpiling that's going on. I wish game journos would take actual scam games like FIFA and Madden to task like this, but that doesn't get clicks I guess.
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soulunison2 01/18/21 1:15:20 AM #28: |
i don't understand the obsession with the witcher they're very mid games
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Shadowplay 01/18/21 1:22:55 AM #30: |
teepan95 posted...
Even Supergiant did some sus stuff recentlyWhat'd they do? --- I make a topic in Final Fantasy 12 to ask if Tifa! They said no Tifa. Hardness gone!-gandob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 01/18/21 1:24:05 AM #31: |
pogo_rabid posted...
Kinda sick of hearing about all the dogpiling that's going on. I wish game journos would take actual scam games like FIFA and Madden to task like this, but that doesn't get clicks I guess. --- Oda break tracker 2021- 0 (2) | THE Ohio State: 7-0 | Las Vegas Raiders: 8-8 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 01/18/21 1:30:43 AM #32: |
Honestly most games (well specifically AAA games) are developed like this. It's all up to management and the team to wrap it up in just the right way. It's a shame because things would be so much better if they waited another year. They'll barely have any competition next year anyway.
pogo_rabid posted... Kinda sick of hearing about all the dogpiling that's going on. I wish game journos would take actual scam games like FIFA and Madden to task like this, but that doesn't get clicks I guess. What story do you expect that to be? They churn out the games every year and loot box mechanics sell. There's nothing else to really say about it. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 01/18/21 1:35:54 AM #33: |
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008Zulu 01/18/21 3:01:51 AM #34: |
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How is the game transphobic? --- If you protest, it's because you feel your voice isn't being heard. If you riot, it's because you feel your voice is being ignored. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pogo_rabid 01/18/21 3:32:18 AM #35: |
They also fixed the 8mb save limit last month.
EDIT- and it was only affecting people who used duplication glitches and whatnot. People who played the game normally were unaffected. --- Ryzen 3800x @ 4.3, 32 gig @ 4000, 1070ti, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E FC: SW-8431-3263-1243 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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apocalyptic_4 01/18/21 3:38:28 AM #36: |
I'll never trust a major dev again after this but I was already done getting hyped for games after fallout 4.
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teepan95 01/18/21 4:53:56 AM #37: |
008Zulu posted...
averagejoel posted...How is the game transphobic? There was an in-game ad fetishizing trans people and nothing condemning it or otherwise saying it was wrong --- teep dumb as f*** fr - BatmanVonDoom I'm gonna pound a 400 lb woman just to prove teep wrong - NigerianKnight ... Copied to Clipboard!
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legendarylemur 01/18/21 5:12:36 AM #38: |
They thought they were representing trans people, but all they did was just parade them around. Some were offended but didn't seem like the community was in uproar about it, more or less had the attitude of "eh, we're used to it."
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008Zulu 01/19/21 12:24:41 AM #39: |
teepan95 posted...
There was an in-game ad fetishizing trans people and nothing condemning it or otherwise saying it was wrongAnd once transgenderism becomes more mainstream and socially acceptable, do you believe they will be exploited any less than anyone else? --- If you protest, it's because you feel your voice isn't being heard. If you riot, it's because you feel your voice is being ignored. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MabusIncarnate 01/19/21 12:28:08 AM #40: |
I remember when CE was all "CD best devs, they really love me and care about me as a consumer"
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pikachupwnage 01/19/21 12:31:30 AM #41: |
teepan95 posted...
There was an in-game ad fetishizing trans people and nothing condemning it or otherwise saying it was wrong That isnt transphobic. --- My Mario Maker 2 Maker ID is J2K-RFD-K4G Even In sigs FOE! http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/665/328/d75.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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