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darkphoenix181 09/17/20 1:37:28 PM #1:	Anyone who hated 12, 13, 15 or FF7re will finally get the FF of their dreams? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:944730883] in Will FF16 ... [t:78981604]...</cite> <quote>Anyone who hated 12, 13, 15 or FF7re will finally get the FF of their dreams? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJGrimReaper 09/17/20 1:37:42 PM #2:	no --- Big Apple, 3 A.M. http://error1355.com/ce/SSJGrimReaper.html <cite>SSJGrimReaper posted [p:944730898] in Will FF16 ... [t:78981604]...</cite> <quote>no </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cobalt_Wasps 09/17/20 1:39:16 PM #3:	i only had an issue with 13 being so damn linear im very much pleased to see FF going back to its high fantasy setting while retaining that "zip around" battle mechanic of 15 --- I boost/hunt trophies, hit me up PSN=PunkRocktopus <cite>Cobalt_Wasps posted [p:944730979] in Will FF16 ... [t:78981604]...</cite> <quote>i only had an issue with 13 being so damn linear im very much pleased to see FF going back to its high fantasy setting while retaining that "zip around" battle mechanic of 15 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 09/17/20 1:39:50 PM #4:	If you haven't liked anything from FF in 15 years, just move on. It's just getting sad --- Name checks out "Try to talk and they ain't listening, but they'll point it out when you get ignorant" - Dreezy <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:944730999] in Will FF16 ... [t:78981604]...</cite> <quote>If you haven't liked anything from FF in 15 years, just move on. It's just getting sad </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 09/17/20 1:42:30 PM #5:	Lost_All_Senses posted... If you haven't liked anything from FF in 15 years, just move on. It's just getting sad 14 says hi <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:944731117] in Will FF16 ... [t:78981604]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite> <quote>If you haven't liked anything from FF in 15 years, just move on. It's just getting sad</quote> 14 says hi </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jabodie 09/17/20 1:44:03 PM #6:	I'm going to say probably not. But how bad could it be, right? >_> --- <insert sig here> <cite>Jabodie posted [p:944731179] in Will FF16 ... [t:78981604]...</cite> <quote>I'm going to say probably not. But how bad could it be, right? >_> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VonOrdelia 09/17/20 1:44:30 PM #7:	Maybe? --- The carbuncle ate itself <cite>VonOrdelia posted [p:944731198] in Will FF16 ... [t:78981604]...</cite> <quote>Maybe? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 09/17/20 1:44:30 PM #8:	It doesn't need redemption. --- Occam's razor: The simplest solution (answer) is most likely the right one <cite>creativerealms posted [p:944731200] in Will FF16 ... [t:78981604]...</cite> <quote>It doesn't need redemption. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 09/17/20 1:47:16 PM #9:	darkphoenix181 posted... 14 says hi MMOs don't count. We all know that. MMO standards are way different. I actually don't understand it. Cause MMO players should be the last ones complaining when other games are empty and boring >_>. They completely rely on others to make an empty boring world fun. The game they're playing is usually 10x more empty and boring without their friends. --- Name checks out "Try to talk and they ain't listening, but they'll point it out when you get ignorant" - Dreezy <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:944731319] in Will FF16 ... [t:78981604]...</cite> <quote>darkphoenix181 posted... </cite> <quote>14 says hi</quote> MMOs don't count. We all know that. MMO standards are way different. I actually don't understand it. Cause MMO players should be the last ones complaining when other games are empty and boring >_>. They completely rely on others to make an empty boring world fun. The game they're playing is usually 10x more empty and boring without their friends. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 09/17/20 1:48:13 PM #10:	Lost_All_Senses posted... MMOs don't count. We all know that. MMO standards are way different. I actually don't understand it. Cause MMO players should be the last ones complaining when other games are empty and boring >_>. They completely rely on others to make an empty boring world fun. The game they're playing is usually 10x more empty and boring without their friends. 14 world is not empty and boring <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:944731359] in Will FF16 ... [t:78981604]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite> <quote>MMOs don't count. We all know that. MMO standards are way different. I actually don't understand it. Cause MMO players should be the last ones complaining when other games are empty and boring >_>. They completely rely on others to make an empty boring world fun. The game they're playing is usually 10x more empty and boring without their friends.</quote> 14 world is not empty and boring </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
codey 09/17/20 1:48:42 PM #11:	No. --- *runs out of topic naked* <cite>codey posted [p:944731379] in Will FF16 ... [t:78981604]...</cite> <quote>No. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChrisTaka 09/17/20 1:49:28 PM #12:	At this point I don't think they can get possibly worse. --- If Corona is so bad why not just make it illegal? thinking emoji <cite>ChrisTaka posted [p:944731415] in Will FF16 ... [t:78981604]...</cite> <quote>At this point I don't think they can get possibly worse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 09/17/20 1:49:31 PM #13:	darkphoenix181 posted... 14 world is not empty and boring The hub isn't. But once you leave it, oh boy. --- Name checks out "Try to talk and they ain't listening, but they'll point it out when you get ignorant" - Dreezy <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:944731419] in Will FF16 ... [t:78981604]...</cite> <quote>darkphoenix181 posted... </cite> <quote>14 world is not empty and boring</quote> The hub isn't. But once you leave it, oh boy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VerisimiIitude 09/17/20 1:49:51 PM #14:	Too early to tell. --- Onyx87 Feel the love... <cite>VerisimiIitude posted [p:944731437] in Will FF16 ... [t:78981604]...</cite> <quote>Too early to tell. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 09/17/20 1:49:54 PM #15:	Lost_All_Senses posted... The hub isn't. But once you leave it, oh boy. Wrong <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:944731438] in Will FF16 ... [t:78981604]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite> <quote>The hub isn't. But once you leave it, oh boy.</quote> Wrong </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 09/17/20 1:50:35 PM #16:	darkphoenix181 posted... Wrong Correct ~~good...good... you're getting him LaS... you're getting him~~ --- Name checks out "Try to talk and they ain't listening, but they'll point it out when you get ignorant" - Dreezy <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:944731476] in Will FF16 ... [t:78981604]...</cite> <quote>darkphoenix181 posted... </cite> <quote>Wrong</quote> Correct good...good... you're getting him LaS... you're getting him </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
codey 09/17/20 1:51:27 PM #17:	Lost_All_Senses posted... If you haven't liked anything from FF in 15 years, just move on. It's just getting sad Pretty much this. I haven't liked one since 12. 15 looked cool and I gave it a shot but got burned there too so I'm done. Square just isn't a company I trust anymore. As far as I'm concerned, they're a Japanese EA, and I haven't bought an EA game in years so I'm totally fine doing the same with Square. --- *runs out of topic naked* <cite>codey posted [p:944731520] in Will FF16 ... [t:78981604]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite> <quote>If you haven't liked anything from FF in 15 years, just move on. It's just getting sad</quote> Pretty much this. I haven't liked one since 12. 15 looked cool and I gave it a shot but got burned there too so I'm done. Square just isn't a company I trust anymore. As far as I'm concerned, they're a Japanese EA, and I haven't bought an EA game in years so I'm totally fine doing the same with Square. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 09/17/20 1:53:48 PM #18:	Lost_All_Senses posted... Correct ~~good...good... you're getting him LaS... you're getting him~~ Even in the housing wards they have npcs that react with each other. Like in mist they miqote swimming in the water. Your misconception is that other people make the world feel so much more alive than even a game like FFX and when they aren't around it feels empty by comparison. But if ffxiv was never online it would feel like the biggest and most vibrant ff game. Many npcs to talk and interact with. Deep lore. Fates with talking npcs, expanding the lore and localized with funny names. <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:944731618] in Will FF16 ... [t:78981604]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite> <quote>Correct good...good... you're getting him LaS... you're getting him</quote> Even in the housing wards they have npcs that react with each other. Like in mist they miqote swimming in the water. Your misconception is that other people make the world feel so much more alive than even a game like FFX and when they aren't around it feels empty by comparison. But if ffxiv was never online it would feel like the biggest and most vibrant ff game. Many npcs to talk and interact with. Deep lore. Fates with talking npcs, expanding the lore and localized with funny names. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 09/17/20 1:55:59 PM #19:	codey posted... Pretty much this. I haven't liked one since 12. 15 looked cool and I gave it a shot but got burned there too so I'm done. Square just isn't a company I trust anymore. As far as I'm concerned, they're a Japanese EA, and I haven't bought an EA game in years so I'm totally fine doing the same with Square. I get it if you wait for a sale or until it's $20-30 to give it another try. But if you're day oneing a series you haven't liked a main entry in since early 2000s, you deserve to be bitter and cranky lol. --- Name checks out "Try to talk and they ain't listening, but they'll point it out when you get ignorant" - Dreezy <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:944731720] in Will FF16 ... [t:78981604]...</cite> <quote>codey posted... </cite> <quote>Pretty much this. I haven't liked one since 12. 15 looked cool and I gave it a shot but got burned there too so I'm done. Square just isn't a company I trust anymore. As far as I'm concerned, they're a Japanese EA, and I haven't bought an EA game in years so I'm totally fine doing the same with Square.</quote>I get it if you wait for a sale or until it's $20-30 to give it another try. But if you're day oneing a series you haven't liked a main entry in since early 2000s, you deserve to be bitter and cranky lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 09/17/20 1:58:10 PM #20:	darkphoenix181 posted... Even in the housing wards they have npcs that react with each other. Like in mist they miqote swimming in the water. Your misconception is that other people make the world feel so much more alive than even a game like FFX and when they aren't around it feels empty by comparison. But if ffxiv was never online it would feel like the biggest and most vibrant ff game. Many npcs to talk and interact with. Deep lore. Fates with talking npcs, expanding the lore and localized with funny names. I didn't get that far, so Ill let you have it. My main thing was that the fanbase was always fragmented and counting them in the same group like they're the same people makes the conversation a mess. It was pretty much agreed upon a long time ago that we talk about non MMOs separately. --- Name checks out "Try to talk and they ain't listening, but they'll point it out when you get ignorant" - Dreezy <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:944731815] in Will FF16 ... [t:78981604]...</cite> <quote>darkphoenix181 posted... </cite> <quote>Even in the housing wards they have npcs that react with each other. Like in mist they miqote swimming in the water. Your misconception is that other people make the world feel so much more alive than even a game like FFX and when they aren't around it feels empty by comparison. But if ffxiv was never online it would feel like the biggest and most vibrant ff game. Many npcs to talk and interact with. Deep lore. Fates with talking npcs, expanding the lore and localized with funny names.</quote> I didn't get that far, so Ill let you have it. My main thing was that the fanbase was always fragmented and counting them in the same group like they're the same people makes the conversation a mess. It was pretty much agreed upon a long time ago that we talk about non MMOs separately. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 09/17/20 1:59:06 PM #21:	If you hated 12, 13, 15, and 7R you probably just dont like FF in general --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:944731854] in Will FF16 ... [t:78981604]...</cite> <quote>If you hated 12, 13, 15, and 7R you probably just dont like FF in general </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MagnusDJL 09/17/20 1:59:55 PM #22:	XII and XIII were mediocre XV was downright awful Don't have a PS4 so can't even check out FFVIIR as of now. I'm not going to hold my breath of FFXVI being a return to form but boy would it be nice if it was. <cite>MagnusDJL posted [p:944731887] in Will FF16 ... [t:78981604]...</cite> <quote>XII and XIII were mediocre XV was downright awful Don't have a PS4 so can't even check out FFVIIR as of now. I'm not going to hold my breath of FFXVI being a return to form but boy would it be nice if it was. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 09/17/20 2:01:34 PM #23:	Lost_All_Senses posted... I didn't get that far, so Ill let you have it. My main thing was that the fanbase was always fragmented and counting them in the same group like they're the same people makes the conversation a mess. It was pretty much agreed upon a long time ago that we talk about non MMOs separately. FF11 came out before broadband was everywhere. This was what impeded most who played FF on consoles from getting into it. Plus the fact that you have to sub. In 2020 though, most people have highspeed internet and a ps4 can run the game as good as a pc for low settings. I see no reason to split them up. Are we assuming FF fans are unable to socialize with others in a text chat? Not like combat style is an impediment to what makes a mainline FF anymore. <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:944731962] in Will FF16 ... [t:78981604]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite> <quote>I didn't get that far, so Ill let you have it. My main thing was that the fanbase was always fragmented and counting them in the same group like they're the same people makes the conversation a mess. It was pretty much agreed upon a long time ago that we talk about non MMOs separately.</quote> FF11 came out before broadband was everywhere. This was what impeded most who played FF on consoles from getting into it. Plus the fact that you have to sub. In 2020 though, most people have highspeed internet and a ps4 can run the game as good as a pc for low settings. I see no reason to split them up. Are we assuming FF fans are unable to socialize with others in a text chat? Not like combat style is an impediment to what makes a mainline FF anymore. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivany2008 09/17/20 2:07:13 PM #24:	I keep an open mind, but considering the game looks like they grabbed assets straight out of 14 I don't have high hopes. And Inigo, your dead wrong on that opinion. 12 was shit, 15 was shit, 13 was mediocre and that was only because I liked the battle system. Never played 7R. But I have multiple copies of 4 through 10-2 on different systems. There's a reason people gave a shit about FF back then, all their games had amazing stories and beautiful worlds. Now its just beautiful worlds. Take 15 for example. In order to understand the plot of 15, you have to first watch both Kingsglaive and brotherhood, which gives backstory to each major character, which you need to actually know who any of them are, and then you play the game. Not to mention that they had to add multiple paid dlcs to fix the damn story in the game and even then they didn't finish it and the main director Tabata "quit" midway. I still think he was fired. <cite>Ivany2008 posted [p:944732217] in Will FF16 ... [t:78981604]...</cite> <quote>I keep an open mind, but considering the game looks like they grabbed assets straight out of 14 I don't have high hopes. And Inigo, your dead wrong on that opinion. 12 was shit, 15 was shit, 13 was mediocre and that was only because I liked the battle system. Never played 7R. But I have multiple copies of 4 through 10-2 on different systems. There's a reason people gave a shit about FF back then, all their games had amazing stories and beautiful worlds. Now its just beautiful worlds. Take 15 for example. In order to understand the plot of 15, you have to first watch both Kingsglaive and brotherhood, which gives backstory to each major character, which you need to actually know who any of them are, and then you play the game. Not to mention that they had to add multiple paid dlcs to fix the damn story in the game and even then they didn't finish it and the main director Tabata "quit" midway. I still think he was fired. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChrisTaka 09/17/20 2:11:33 PM #25:	Blue_Inigo posted... If you hated 12, 13, 15, and 7R you probably just dont like FF in general 13 and 15 were bad tho, and I can see how 7R ending could ruin the game for them. 12 is pretty great tho. --- If Corona is so bad why not just make it illegal? thinking emoji <cite>ChrisTaka posted [p:944732389] in Will FF16 ... [t:78981604]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Inigo posted... </cite> <quote>If you hated 12, 13, 15, and 7R you probably just dont like FF in general</quote> 13 and 15 were bad tho, and I can see how 7R ending could ruin the game for them. 12 is pretty great tho. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 09/17/20 2:13:51 PM #26:	ChrisTaka posted... 13 and 15 were bad tho, and I can see how 7R ending could ruin the game for them. 12 is pretty great tho. 15 wasnt bad at all --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:944732485] in Will FF16 ... [t:78981604]...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted... </cite> <quote>13 and 15 were bad tho, and I can see how 7R ending could ruin the game for them. 12 is pretty great tho.</quote>15 wasnt bad at all </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OmegaShinkai 09/17/20 2:16:50 PM #28:	darkphoenix181 posted... 14 world is not empty and boring The Gyr Abania zones in Stormblood are absolutely empty, boring and bland, you can tell they just didn't bother trying because with flying introduced in Heavensward you're just going to visit everything once and never visit again unless you're flying to a hunt mark or gathering node <cite>OmegaShinkai posted [p:944732607] in Will FF16 ... [t:78981604]...</cite> <quote>darkphoenix181 posted... </cite> <quote>14 world is not empty and boring</quote>The Gyr Abania zones in Stormblood are absolutely empty, boring and bland, you can tell they just didn't bother trying because with flying introduced in Heavensward you're just going to visit everything once and never visit again unless you're flying to a hunt mark or gathering node </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
squarion 09/17/20 2:19:39 PM #29:	Potentially. There was blood in the trailer so It could be m rated --- Favorite Game of All Time: Donkey Kong Country 2 <cite>squarion posted [p:944732728] in Will FF16 ... [t:78981604]...</cite> <quote>Potentially. There was blood in the trailer so It could be m rated </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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