Current Events > Do you want stay at home orders in effect until a vaccine is found?

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I've seen a lot of posts on here saying that we should have stay at home orders enforced until a vaccine is found. I know they're optimistic about a vaccine in 18+ months but a lot of vaccines take 3-5 years to get to market including all the testing they need to do and SARS still doesn't have a vaccine. What's your opinion?

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SARS still doesn't have a vaccine

This one won't either.

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Until a vaccine is made, society can never completely return to normal because COVID can always come back just as strong.
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EffectAndCause posted...

Until a vaccine is made, society can never completely return to normal because COVID can always come back just as strong.

That's what everyone is saying now. I'm not saying you're not right but a lot of predictions they're making now are just that - predictions. A few weeks ago they were predicting 80,000 cases in my province by end of month and we're actually on track to get 15,000 or less. They also thought SARS would come back with a vengeance in the fall of 2003 and that never happened.

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I'm fune with a phased approach, we just need way more testing. And the White House saying "We have enough tests available" when that is clearly not the case is not helping at all.

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Hell no. Those people are fools asking for a second great depression.
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Nah. We should be as safe as we can be for as long as we can be while taking reasonable measures continuing forward, but hell or high water we're just going to need to proceed with society at large at some point.

It doesn't have to be that extreme, but it needs to be contained. Other countries have been able to reopen and go back to at least a minor semblance of normalcy. the US can too but we need to be sure it happens only when we can have a little more control of the virus and ensure that another full on mass infection won't occur again. Right now the only way to achieve that is for younger people and those not as prone to showing symptoms to listen; staying in letting the virus work itself out of those individuals so it doesn't continue spreading. This could have happened awhile ago, but the Admin and the Public didn't take it seriously soon enough

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Seems like we're all gonna die one way or the other.

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SARS was never anywhere close to as widespread as this.
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VipaGTS posted...

It doesn't have to be that extreme, but it needs to be contained. Other countries have been able to reopen and go back to at least a minor semblance of normalcy. the US can too but we need to be sure it happens only when we can have a little more control of the virus and ensure that another full on mass infection won't occur again. Right now the only way to achieve that is for younger people and those not as prone to showing symptoms to listen; staying in letting the virus work itself out of those individuals so it doesn't continue spreading. This could have happened awhile ago, but the Admin and the Public didn't take it seriously soon enough

The US can't even manage to get dumb assholes to not gather in large groups. We ain't managing shit in this country. Which I'd be ok with if it were just their own lives they were risking, but now the retirement home my Grandma was in till her death last year has it in every wing because some dumb employee went to a party and someone there had it.

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EffectAndCause posted...

SARS was never anywhere close to as widespread as this.

Okay and what does that have to do with how long it takes to get a vaccine to market?

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REMercsChamp posted...

Okay and what does that have to do with how long it takes to get a vaccine to market?

It was safer to live life normally with no vaccine when SARS was around.

With COVID-19 it is not.
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EffectAndCause posted...

It was safer to live life normally with no vaccine when SARS was around.

With COVID-19 it is not.

So you voted for the first option I gather

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I want to wait until the numbers have gone down significantly, which they havent even come close to doing.

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REMercsChamp posted...

So you voted for the first option I gather

Unless they find some other way to make COVID-19 manageable, yes.

People being FUCKING ABSOLUTE ******S and not following social distancing/self quarantine guidelines make this pretty much impossible.
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Warning: This is a bait topic, any arguments against the media narrative will most likely get you modded.

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JBaLLEN66 posted...

Warning: This is a bait topic, any arguments against the media narrative will most likely get you modded.

What's the media narrative? I'm seeing everything written from we should stay inside for years until a vaccine is found or even longer to we should just open up tomorrow like a light switch turning on

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No but I definitely wouldn't mind a work-from-home order until a vaccine is phone

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The narrative is if you don't stay at home for as long as it takes (even if it takes several years) the entire human population will be wiped out to make room for ants to evolve into biped 6 foot ant-men. By the way, I'm already ahead of the curve, I've been gently petting all the ants I come across.

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Yadoken posted...

The narrative is if you don't stay at home for as long as it takes (even if it takes several years) the entire human population will be wiped out to make room for ants to evolve into biped 6 foot ant-men.

Sounds reasonable

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JBaLLEN66 posted...

Warning: This is a bait topic, any arguments against the media narrative will most likely get you modded.

Media narrative? There's at least four of those among the MSM.
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Nah. I think once the curve flattens, opening up some businesses slowly would be the best idea. Doing that can allow the hospitals to not get too overcrowded. If there's another spike though, we will probably need another shutdown.

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I like to think the homes in things like the Walking Dead are full of people that thought the best course of action was to sit at home and just wait for everything to go away.

I'll be honest, I don't know when opening things up is the best ides, but I do know letting people on the internet be a part of that decision isn't good. Too many people with some vested interest in keeping it going beyond realistic need, from hypochondriacs looking to "just be safe" like anything could be germ free enough for them, to people enjoying the new sanctioned NEET lifestyle afraid to go back to work.

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EffectAndCause posted...

Unless they find some other way to make COVID-19 manageable, yes.

People being FUCKING ABSOLUTE ******S and not following social distancing/self quarantine guidelines make this pretty much impossible.

Why would you censor a word after you put FUCKING in all caps? Lol
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The first option is not possible, anyone seriously pushing that idea isn't aware of what actually happens if you do that.

A mix of the second and third is the right answer. Waiting for a year of no new cases is basically the same as waiting for a vaccine, that's the only way that happens.

Everyone wants to be afraid and say hide until it's all over, but that's not feasible and our elected officials make it even more impossible, but the fact still is that is virus is slowly becoming manageable. It would be a lot easier if fuck wads listened, but even with them being morons it's slowly starting to come down in the key hot spots. What we need now is mass testing and contact tracing. The fact is this is proven to work. You don't need to wait for a vaccine or even new ways to treat the virus, you need to know where the virus is and you need to contain it. South Korea has the blue print, ask them for their help in implementing it here.

It's also important to remember that the longer this virus is around, the more manageable it becomes. We are figuring what does and doesn't work in treating patients, and we are constantly inching close to new treatments. Even without a vaccine, the threat level can be lowered in time.

REMercsChamp posted...

What's the media narrative? I'm seeing everything written from we should stay inside for years until a vaccine is found or even longer to we should just open up tomorrow like a light switch turning on

the one you see on CNN and reddit

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If the pandemic really continues like this for a long time, I highly doubt it would take 5+ years to find a vaccine. We never got a SARS vaccine because they were able to contain it without one (SARS symptoms appeared much more quickly so it was easier to isolate people). No need to continue vaccine research after that. But there's no reason to think they can't find a vaccine for COVID19 if they continue research long enough. And you can't compare it to the timeline for a normal vaccine because the FDA is allowing them to expedite some steps given the urgency of the situation.

Sewage posted...

The first option is not possible, anyone seriously pushing that idea isn't aware of what actually happens if you do that.

It's going to have to be possible. Society is going to have to adapt.

I really don't know. While death rate seems highest for those that are older and/ or not as healthy, that doesn't explain why there are also cases of younger people in good health also dying. Not to mention, it seems like it's pretty common for those that do recover to end up with permanent damage to lungs, heart, and other organs. Given how contagious it is, that's all pretty scary.

Heck, I'm early 30s, but I don't even know I'd survive it if I got it.

Granted, I've always been fairly good at not getting colds or flus, or stuff like that, so... I think the last time I even had a "cold" was, like, January of 2019. But that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

At least for me, when I do eventually get to go back to work, I only have three coworkers, so not a lot of chance to catch something from someone (although one of my coworkers seems to catch everything and be sick 24/7...). But, I do worry about everyone else.

Conception616 posted...

Why would you censor a word after you put FUCKING in all caps? Lol

Because GameFAQs doesnt like the word I used.
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So over a quarter of people on this site want us to stay indoors for half a decade or more

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