Board 8 > The Show EP 3 - Ori + Nioh Upsets, an RL/DBZ Classic, and Week 2 Action w/ Zen!

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Ngamer64
04/09/20 3:05:05 PM
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Contest season is in full swing, we're nearing the end of the first round- only Zen could Bring The Hype to break it all down with us on The Show!

http://board8.speedrunwiki.com/interviews/theshow/20200409-TheShowEP03.mp3

- guest star Zen dishes on all the latest hot gossip out of Discord and hypes the upcoming picsmith season
- why rally no worky? (aka dunking on reddit)
- big upsets by Ori and Nioh, enjoying Rocket League/DBZ, and all the other Week Two action
- picks for Round Two and deciding the past week's Stars and Turds

BONUS CONTENT - Discussing Half Life Alyx, VR, and the Future of Gaming:
http://board8.speedrunwiki.com/interviews/theshow/20200401-TheShowEP02BONUS-FutureOfGaming.mp3
^ I had a little extra time this afternoon so I cut out a post-show discussion we had with swirl last week, the subject was how many games we've played this decade versus the last and lead into some interesting territory

I thought this was a super entertaining episode, hope you'll agree!
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KamikazePotato
04/09/20 3:07:15 PM
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Tag

#ZenOnTheShow

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Leonhart4
04/09/20 3:07:35 PM
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Oh snap

I will listen when I get home

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swirIdude
04/09/20 3:19:34 PM
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Oh dang you released that post-last episode discussion? If I had known that would happen I would have talked more and not been half-asleep

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Ngamer64
04/09/20 3:28:02 PM
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The whole talk wasn't uploaded, just the most choice of slices (little over 15 minutes).

Don't feel bad about falling asleep, we kept you up till after 4am your time!


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CaptainOfCrush
04/09/20 3:30:14 PM
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This was a super fun episode - high energy!

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tennisboy213
04/09/20 3:31:52 PM
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Zen is the picsmith guy
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azuarc
04/09/20 3:36:34 PM
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I never got around to listening to episode 2. =/

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Leonhart4
04/09/20 3:45:35 PM
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azuarc posted...
I never got around to listening to episode 2. =/

You still can!

Just listen in small pieces when the episodes are this long.

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azuarc
04/09/20 3:47:44 PM
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Seconding what Yo is saying about being surprisingly creative. I'm a ridiculously left-brained person, and yet one day i just sat down and started writing novels. (I also did match pics for the year contest, even if SB overlooked my best work.)

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Menji
04/09/20 3:57:04 PM
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Zen taught me how to make pics too, and yes, I found I was pretty creative.

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RPGlord95
04/09/20 4:04:05 PM
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Zen is great

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Bossman_Coolguy
04/09/20 4:05:24 PM
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he nagmer, bossman here, still waiting for my invitation to "the show" i've always wanted to be on it, and stuff

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ZeldaTPLink
04/09/20 4:10:19 PM
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swirIdude posted...
Oh dang you released that post-last episode discussion? If I had known that would happen I would have talked more and not been half-asleep

Note to myself for if I'm a guest again: everything is recorded, mind what you say before and after the episode (i. e. build a bigger buffer of jokes to say during those times).
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LeonhartFour
04/09/20 4:11:47 PM
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Zen taught me how to make pics. I made a few for 2010 that got accepted and most people hated, so I am not creative!
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swirIdude
04/09/20 4:40:19 PM
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Zen is that guy who followed me on GameFAQs when I was sure no one would follow me, and for that I am grateful.

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Gall
04/09/20 4:56:39 PM
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Zen is that guy who did a full analysis of Character Battle 2013 five years later, which consisted mostly of him bemoaning the fall of most of our beloved video game series, relating his family and friends' opinions of second-string Nintendo characters, and mocking Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale. I loved reading all that.
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_SecretSquirrel
04/09/20 5:07:37 PM
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Tag for slightly later in the evening.

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_SecretSquirrel
04/09/20 5:23:12 PM
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Actually, listening right now. ZenOfThunder is the picsmith guy to me, though I don't remember him being that active in the last couple contests in that regard. Then again, the format was so bad the last time I wouldn't blame anyone that didn't contribute.

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_SecretSquirrel
04/09/20 5:30:17 PM
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For the record, it's actually pretty easy to find clear renders of logos these days. For example, here's VLR.

https://images.launchbox-app.com/f390bb6d-4937-4c82-9ddb-5265c4cd4aed.png

We can mostly thank the Wikia/Fandoms for these clear logos.

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LeonhartFour
04/09/20 6:04:05 PM
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_SecretSquirrel
04/09/20 6:06:30 PM
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Something to consider with people anti-voting Golden for being a Vita port: Persona 4 came out in December 2008, and of course was a cult hit that not everyone played right away. I'd saw it's fair to say most of its fanbase played it this decade, whether they bought the OG game later or they played it via Golden.

There's a good chance that some voters are completely unaware that it's actually a 2000s game alltogether, and that could matter as to whether it beats RDR, GTA/Cuphead, or the division entirely.

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LeonhartFour
04/09/20 6:07:17 PM
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to me ZenOfThunder now is the guy who makes funny memes on Facebook, and we also worked at Amazon at the same time (not at the same facility)

I still remember the moment Zen and I became B8 buddies, and I wonder if he remembers as well
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ZenOfThunder
04/09/20 6:13:41 PM
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I remember us fighting over FFX, did that make us friends

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LeonhartFour
04/09/20 6:13:52 PM
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I can tell you the ZenOfThunder blunder I always remember is the Link/Zack/Duke/Altair picture in the swimming pool

well that and the TP/RE4/MGS3/HL2 pic where you used that weird poster
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LeonhartFour
04/09/20 6:15:16 PM
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ZenOfThunder posted...
I remember us fighting over FFX, did that make us friends


I remember we fought over your 4-way pics a lot, but when Squall/Auron rolled around in 2010 and Squall actually had a good smiling Squall pic, I was highly appreciative of it

we somehow both fought and bonded over smiling Squall
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_SecretSquirrel
04/09/20 6:16:21 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
I can tell you the ZenOfThunder blunder I always remember is the Link/Zack/Duke/Altair picture in the swimming pool

well that and the TP/RE4/MGS3/HL2 pic where you used that weird poster
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/bge09/bge09-55-4.jpg

This one? As someone that actually had some idea who Atlas Hale is, it's definitely my favorite bad picture.

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LeonhartFour
04/09/20 6:16:48 PM
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yeah that's the one

although it was Oblivion, not HL2, whoops
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LeonhartFour
04/09/20 6:18:18 PM
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04/09/20 6:23:26 PM
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_SecretSquirrel
04/09/20 6:25:52 PM
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Ok, Zen is now the guy who just absolutely blasted Dragon Age here. Oh so glorious.

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ZenOfThunder
04/09/20 6:28:23 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
I can tell you the ZenOfThunder blunder I always remember is the Link/Zack/Duke/Altair picture in the swimming pool

well that and the TP/RE4/MGS3/HL2 pic where you used that weird poster

Swimming pool was not me but the comic book poster was and I think about it like at least once a week no exaggeration

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LeonhartFour
04/09/20 6:29:06 PM
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huh I thought the swimming pool one was you

were you the one who recreated the Beatles album cover in Samus/Ganon/Vincent/Gordon
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_SecretSquirrel
04/09/20 6:29:29 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
although the freakiest 4-way pic ever made wasn't even made by Zen!

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-57-2.jpg

it was this one
I think that one might have been agasonex.

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LeonhartFour
04/09/20 6:30:26 PM
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yeah I'm pretty sure it was

he used to do his own Character Battles on his website and all the match pics had that exact same font
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Lightning Strikes
04/09/20 6:39:32 PM
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Nice one! On the topic of pics I do hope we get different pics next round even if we cant submit them until round 3, but Allen has done such a great job these would be fine again.

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_SecretSquirrel
04/09/20 6:42:09 PM
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My big hope for pics, which I'm not optimistic will happen, is that Allen shoves the clickable logos to the side, and lets us integrate the logos ourselves.

Look at 2015's submitted pictures and see how the correct blending of the logos made a difference from a good pic to a great pic.

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ZenOfThunder
04/09/20 6:43:34 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
huh I thought the swimming pool one was you

were you the one who recreated the Beatles album cover in Samus/Ganon/Vincent/Gordon

Yes that was me

If a match pic was simultaneously a bad tribute to something it was me 100% of the time

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LeonhartFour
04/09/20 6:43:44 PM
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Death Stranding is the game of and for my people

I do want to play it eventually thoug
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LeonhartFour
04/09/20 6:51:35 PM
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Ori and the Blind Forest is a great game

I need to play the Dragon Age games one of these days
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LeonhartFour
04/09/20 6:55:41 PM
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I think both of the Fire Emblem games faced better opponents than most round 1 winners.
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LeonhartFour
04/09/20 7:05:14 PM
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Witcher 3's performance was great but Odyssey is going to be garbage compared to Black Flag
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ZeldaTPLink
04/09/20 7:11:21 PM
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On the stuff about Reddit and the death of text, I had an interesting experience recently.

I'm 28 and I recently went back to college. Most people in my class are 20-23. They are all addicted to phones and mostly instagram (which shows a generetional change, because I do have instagram but I don't see the appeal of it).

So now we are having online classes, and in one of them, the teacher asked us to download a simulation program we need to use to do the online coursework.

About 90% of the class couldn't install it, and I was one of the few who could. Granted, it seems like many of them actually had some tech problems beyond their control (it took a few tries for me too), but it seems a lot of them have no idea how to install a program on a PC. Two of them literally sent me pics of their screen with the RAR archive opened and were like "Ok now what do I do?". At least one had never heard of WinRAR before. A third one didn't know how to go through the usual install proccess (click next, pick quick instalation, etc) so I had to guide them through it.

And those are engineering students, in an university that's one of the best but it's not a weak one either. They don't know how to do computer-related stuff that was second nature to me when I was like 12.

I don't know if I should be worried about it or not. In one hand it feels like I'm an old man complaining. Maybe phones are just better than computers, maybe some of that knowledge is outdated and it's fine if the kids can't do it.

On the flipside, I don't like how phones feel much less customizable than PCs and don't let the user find their way around their hard drive and control what the actual machine is doing. Instead you just download programs from the app store and use them the exact way everyone else is, which usually involves spamming copycat stories on instagram and liking each other's posts, or spamming copycat gifs on Whatsapp. And the death of text is worrying too, especially since it's coupled with the death of speech. People are transitioning to talking exclusively with emojis, maybe.

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LeonhartFour
04/09/20 7:11:29 PM
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Return of the Obra Dinn is "respected" but its playrate is probably down there near the bottom

Galaxy 2 deserves the blowout of the contest but that's the consolation prize it'll have to settle for

Being forced to vote in all 4 matches probably helps Galaxy 2 as well because who the heck is anti-voting this game?
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_SecretSquirrel
04/09/20 7:17:34 PM
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Zen: I have Sonic Mania defeating Persona 5.

I just completely lost it at this point. I really needed that laugh.

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LeonhartFour
04/09/20 7:21:17 PM
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also I think there's a good chance Dota 2, Fortnite, and/or Destiny will end up in the bottom 5 of the contest

oh and Hearthstone too of course
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LeonhartFour
04/09/20 7:23:26 PM
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give me Mass Effect Trilogy please so I can introduce my fiancee to it

Citadel still the best DLC ever made
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LeonhartFour
04/09/20 7:25:04 PM
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also Super Mario Galaxy 2 is my favorite game in the bracket

Mass Effect 3 is my second favorite game
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LeonhartFour
04/09/20 7:26:33 PM
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hey now I originally had Nioh too!

but I eventually switched to Binding of Isaac bah
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LeonhartFour
04/09/20 7:40:06 PM
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I had a top 10 Oracle prediction for Sonic Mania and I was off by nearly 7%
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