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Malfunction 02/07/20 7:52:17 AM #1:	Feel like everything is either triple AAA big budget fifteen goty editions material or "this was made by a one armed man in Armenia on a budget of 5 dollars. It has won 408 indie awards" nowadays <cite>Malfunction posted [p:934050835] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>Feel like everything is either triple AAA big budget fifteen goty editions material or "this was made by a one armed man in Armenia on a budget of 5 dollars. It has won 408 indie awards" nowadays </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pres_madagascar 02/07/20 7:53:21 AM #2:	Yes, we absolutely do. A lot of the ones we've managed to get this Gen have been good fun honestly. --- https://imgur.com/23CCcZB https://imgur.com/32mwCo1 https://imgur.com/oqklqKC <cite>pres_madagascar posted [p:934050848] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>Yes, we absolutely do. A lot of the ones we've managed to get this Gen have been good fun honestly. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FF_Redux 02/07/20 7:54:27 AM #3:	We already have, they are called bad games no one cares about. --- https://imgur.com/hRsG4 https://i.imgtc.com/zZQ38Hb.jpg https://imgur.com/Z4cir https://imgur.com/qEyGS https://imgur.com/37KDT <cite>FF_Redux posted [p:934050878] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>We already have, they are called bad games no one cares about. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pres_madagascar 02/07/20 7:55:46 AM #4:	FF_Redux posted... We already have, they are called bad games no one cares about. No. Not at all. --- https://imgur.com/23CCcZB https://imgur.com/32mwCo1 https://imgur.com/oqklqKC <cite>pres_madagascar posted [p:934050905] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>FF_Redux posted... </cite> <quote>We already have, they are called bad games no one cares about.</quote>No. Not at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Malfunction 02/07/20 7:55:56 AM #5:	I miss when you could go into a game store 15 years ago and browse the shelves and find something cool that you hadn't really heard of and end up loving it <cite>Malfunction posted [p:934050907] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>I miss when you could go into a game store 15 years ago and browse the shelves and find something cool that you hadn't really heard of and end up loving it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shotgunnova 02/07/20 7:58:12 AM #6:	The Technomancer 2 --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame <cite>Shotgunnova posted [p:934050963] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>The Technomancer 2 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coh 02/07/20 7:58:13 AM #7:	Get a PC. Lots of games like that on Steam <cite>coh posted [p:934050964] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>Get a PC. Lots of games like that on Steam </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pres_madagascar 02/07/20 8:04:54 AM #8:	Shotgunnova posted... The Technomancer 2 They just put out greedfall, which was pretty damn solid, they announced technoman 2? --- https://imgur.com/23CCcZB https://imgur.com/32mwCo1 https://imgur.com/oqklqKC <cite>pres_madagascar posted [p:934051100] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>Shotgunnova posted... </cite> <quote>The Technomancer 2</quote>They just put out greedfall, which was pretty damn solid, they announced technoman 2? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shotgunnova 02/07/20 8:09:33 AM #9:	pres_madagascar posted... They just put out greedfall, which was pretty damn solid, they announced technoman 2? Dunno if it's in the works, but when I think of a sorta-AAA, sorta-AA game, I think of Technomancer. Still pretty fun...just with too much backtracking. --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame <cite>Shotgunnova posted [p:934051211] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>pres_madagascar posted... </cite> <quote>They just put out greedfall, which was pretty damn solid, they announced technoman 2?</quote>Dunno if it's in the works, but when I think of a sorta-AAA, sorta-AA game, I think of Technomancer. Still pretty fun...just with too much backtracking. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
specialkid8 02/07/20 8:11:02 AM #10:	How is this even a question? AA games are consistently the best games out there. I always laugh at the AAA vs Indie stuff when they both have significant issues, and everyone ignores mid-budget games. <cite>specialkid8 posted [p:934051249] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>How is this even a question? AA games are consistently the best games out there. I always laugh at the AAA vs Indie stuff when they both have significant issues, and everyone ignores mid-budget games. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthWendy 02/07/20 8:11:06 AM #11:	Yes we absolutely do, as impeccably demonstrated here : https://youtu.be/oAD6HPBr7C0 --- Ave Caesar, Rosae Rosam et Spiritus Rex ! - Voila, ca ne veut absolument rien dire mais l'effet reste le meme https://i.imgtc.com/eRE0ORV.jpg <cite>DarthWendy posted [p:934051251] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>Yes we absolutely do, as impeccably demonstrated here : https://youtu.be/oAD6HPBr7C0 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DyingPancake 02/07/20 8:11:28 AM #12:	Gamepass has a really good selection of "AA" games I just played through "A Plague Tale: Innocence" and it was probably one of the best surprise games I've ever played. I had never even heard of it until a few weeks ago Playing "Indivisible" now and thats probably another one. Really fun, but not something you'd see for full price --- Pine State milk <cite>DyingPancake posted [p:934051267] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>Gamepass has a really good selection of "AA" games I just played through "A Plague Tale: Innocence" and it was probably one of the best surprise games I've ever played. I had never even heard of it until a few weeks ago Playing "Indivisible" now and thats probably another one. Really fun, but not something you'd see for full price </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KillerSlaw 02/07/20 8:12:49 AM #13:	Yes --- The personal is the political is a totalitarian progressive decree that I reject entirely. <cite>KillerSlaw posted [p:934051303] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>Yes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pres_madagascar 02/07/20 8:20:58 AM #14:	Shotgunnova posted... Dunno if it's in the works, but when I think of a sorta-AAA, sorta-AA game, I think of Technomancer. Still pretty fun...just with too much backtracking. Their latest game, greedfall, is their best game yet, good fun. --- https://imgur.com/23CCcZB https://imgur.com/32mwCo1 https://imgur.com/oqklqKC <cite>pres_madagascar posted [p:934051506] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>Shotgunnova posted... </cite> <quote>Dunno if it's in the works, but when I think of a sorta-AAA, sorta-AA game, I think of Technomancer. Still pretty fun...just with too much backtracking.</quote>Their latest game, greedfall, is their best game yet, good fun. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
loafy013 02/07/20 8:23:57 AM #15:	Malfunction posted... I miss when you could go into a game store 15 years ago and browse the shelves and find something cool that you hadn't really heard of and end up loving it I remember finding Atelier Iris (which I had never heard of before) and picking it up at the same time as the game I went in to gamestop to buy. Got home to give it a shot for an hour or two before I played the game I really wanted. Turned into a week or two of "just one more hour, then I'll play the game I really want", beat the game, and then found out there was a second game in the series i had to track down. Closest I get to that feeling now is checking out the free games on PS+, but it still isn't quite the rush. --- The ball is round, the game lasts 90 minutes. That's fact. Everything else, is theory. <cite>loafy013 posted [p:934051573] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>Malfunction posted... </cite> <quote>I miss when you could go into a game store 15 years ago and browse the shelves and find something cool that you hadn't really heard of and end up loving it</quote>I remember finding Atelier Iris (which I had never heard of before) and picking it up at the same time as the game I went in to gamestop to buy. Got home to give it a shot for an hour or two before I played the game I really wanted. Turned into a week or two of "just one more hour, then I'll play the game I really want", beat the game, and then found out there was a second game in the series i had to track down. Closest I get to that feeling now is checking out the free games on PS+, but it still isn't quite the rush. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raikuro 02/07/20 9:33:04 AM #16:	FF_Redux posted... We already have, they are called bad games no one cares about. This. They may not actually be bad games, but everyone bitches about them looking like last gen and refuse to even try them. <cite>Raikuro posted [p:934053230] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>FF_Redux posted... </cite> <quote>We already have, they are called bad games no one cares about.</quote>This. They may not actually be bad games, but everyone bitches about them looking like last gen and refuse to even try them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EnvoyOfTheLight 02/07/20 9:34:31 AM #17:	So many indie games are gorgeous, dunno what tc is talking about. --- I am The Light's Envoy, here to redeem you of your wicked ways! GuideGuideGuide is Evening_Dragon is Guide <cite>EnvoyOfTheLight posted [p:934053271] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>So many indie games are gorgeous, dunno what tc is talking about. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/07/20 9:39:03 AM #18:	Half those studios fail financially and wind up getting bought into the AAA fold. It seems hard to survive in that middle ground. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:934053400] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>Half those studios fail financially and wind up getting bought into the AAA fold. It seems hard to survive in that middle ground. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacDaMurderer 02/07/20 9:41:38 AM #19:	Most of these AAA games are mid level games. Take the Borderlands 3 is a mid tier game for example. --- @macdamurderer GT: Mac Da Murderer <cite>MacDaMurderer posted [p:934053455] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>Most of these AAA games are mid level games. Take the Borderlands 3 is a mid tier game for example. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 02/07/20 9:49:47 AM #20:	Actually, some of my favorite games from the last 15 years or so have been cheaper titles from major publishers, like Call of Juarez Gunslinger and Child of Light. Come to think, those are both Ubisoft. But still. It's a cool sweet spot because they tend to be fun and imaginative but still have a decent budget to hire specialized talent. --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:934053695] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>Actually, some of my favorite games from the last 15 years or so have been cheaper titles from major publishers, like Call of Juarez Gunslinger and Child of Light. Come to think, those are both Ubisoft. But still. It's a cool sweet spot because they tend to be fun and imaginative but still have a decent budget to hire specialized talent. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Malfunction 02/07/20 9:50:47 AM #21:	EnvoyOfTheLight posted... So many indie games are gorgeous, dunno what tc is talking about. Where did I say they look bad <cite>Malfunction posted [p:934053730] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>EnvoyOfTheLight posted... </cite> <quote>So many indie games are gorgeous, dunno what tc is talking about.</quote>Where did I say they look bad </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Malfunction 02/07/20 9:51:16 AM #22:	Anyway I think the more pertinent point raised itt is that it's basically growingly prohibitively expensive and time consuming for these sorts of games to be made to the standards required <cite>Malfunction posted [p:934053752] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>Anyway I think the more pertinent point raised itt is that it's basically growingly prohibitively expensive and time consuming for these sorts of games to be made to the standards required </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 02/07/20 9:51:25 AM #23:	Malfunction posted... I miss when you could go into a game store 15 years ago and browse the shelves and find something cool that you hadn't really heard of and end up loving it It's how I found Ace Combat 5. What a great frickin game. --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:934053758] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>Malfunction posted... </cite> <quote>I miss when you could go into a game store 15 years ago and browse the shelves and find something cool that you hadn't really heard of and end up loving it</quote>It's how I found Ace Combat 5. What a great frickin game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guns_of_Verdun 02/07/20 9:56:15 AM #24:	I think so look at Greedfall look at Outer Worlds Look at Hellblade Look at half of the PS2 library Polish is good but a lot of AAA is wasteful --- https://imgur.com/VwJsmAR <cite>Guns_of_Verdun posted [p:934053888] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>I think so look at Greedfall look at Outer Worlds Look at Hellblade Look at half of the PS2 library Polish is good but a lot of AAA is wasteful </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Killah Priest 02/07/20 9:59:06 AM #25:	problem is a lot of them are overcharging nowadays trying to sell for AAA price. --- The Infamous... Forever's gonna start tonight. <cite>Killah Priest posted [p:934053974] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>problem is a lot of them are overcharging nowadays trying to sell for AAA price. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EnvoyOfTheLight 02/07/20 10:03:58 AM #26:	Malfunction posted... Where did I say they look bad Implied in the 5$ budget bit, but if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. What's the problem with indie titles elsewise, then? --- I am The Light's Envoy, here to redeem you of your wicked ways! GuideGuideGuide is Evening_Dragon is Guide <cite>EnvoyOfTheLight posted [p:934054130] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>Malfunction posted... </cite> <quote>Where did I say they look bad</quote> Implied in the 5$ budget bit, but if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. What's the problem with indie titles elsewise, then? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apolloooo 02/07/20 10:06:52 AM #27:	Shotgunnova posted... The Technomancer 2 Not necessarily a sequel but i would love another game in the same universe since technomancer leave tons of room for world development. In my ending ~~the mutant survived and built a village and everyone on mars know that earth is completely destroyed so humanity's only hope are th martians~~ --- http://i.imgtc.com/iJyp6bF.png http://i.imgtc.com/ZBw36Qh.png Thanks for the peeps that made the pics <3 if i make typos it means i am on phone <cite>apolloooo posted [p:934054227] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>Shotgunnova posted... </cite> <quote>The Technomancer 2</quote>Not necessarily a sequel but i would love another game in the same universe since technomancer leave tons of room for world development. In my ending the mutant survived and built a village and everyone on mars know that earth is completely destroyed so humanity's only hope are th martians </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apolloooo 02/07/20 10:08:27 AM #28:	Also 90% of the games i played are indies and middlewares nowadays. The only AAA i play the past several month is dmc 5 and monster hunter --- http://i.imgtc.com/iJyp6bF.png http://i.imgtc.com/ZBw36Qh.png Thanks for the peeps that made the pics <3 if i make typos it means i am on phone <cite>apolloooo posted [p:934054291] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>Also 90% of the games i played are indies and middlewares nowadays. The only AAA i play the past several month is dmc 5 and monster hunter </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiggy101011 02/07/20 10:14:57 AM #29:	Greedfall, A Plague Tale, Darksiders 3, Just Cause 4, problem is no one buys these games. --- Gamertag: F1RE v2 PSN ID: F1REx Man got me a 9 and she sexy <cite>Jiggy101011 posted [p:934054521] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>Greedfall, A Plague Tale, Darksiders 3, Just Cause 4, problem is no one buys these games. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guns_of_Verdun 02/07/20 10:16:18 AM #30:	Jiggy101011 posted... Greedfall, A Plague Tale, Darksiders 3, Just Cause 4, problem is no one buys these games. didn't Greedfall do really well? Outer Worlds too --- https://imgur.com/VwJsmAR <cite>Guns_of_Verdun posted [p:934054565] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>Jiggy101011 posted... </cite> <quote>Greedfall, A Plague Tale, Darksiders 3, Just Cause 4, problem is no one buys these games.</quote>didn't Greedfall do really well? Outer Worlds too </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 02/07/20 10:22:09 AM #31:	Nintendo already exists. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:934054751] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>Nintendo already exists. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apolloooo 02/07/20 10:25:59 AM #32:	Guns_of_Verdun posted... didn't Greedfall do really well? Outer Worlds too plague tale did great too --- http://i.imgtc.com/iJyp6bF.png http://i.imgtc.com/ZBw36Qh.png Thanks for the peeps that made the pics <3 if i make typos it means i am on phone <cite>apolloooo posted [p:934054877] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>Guns_of_Verdun posted... </cite> <quote>didn't Greedfall do really well? Outer Worlds too</quote>plague tale did great too </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kirbymuncher 02/07/20 11:12:34 AM #33:	I feel like there are already a lot of these? Most stuff I play fits somewhere between AAA and super low budget indie already. just thinking about stuff I've played and liked recently: celeste crosscode slay the spire age of empires DE necrodancer (this one's pretty old though) atelier ryza blazblue crosstag overcooked2 They're definitely harder to find than AAA stuff since they aren't advertised everywhere nor do they extort reviewers for scores but they are there if you look --- THIS IS WHAT I HATE A BOUT EVREY WEBSITE!! THERES SO MUCH PEOPLE READING AND POSTING STUIPED STUFF <cite>kirbymuncher posted [p:934056536] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>I feel like there are already a lot of these? Most stuff I play fits somewhere between AAA and super low budget indie already. just thinking about stuff I've played and liked recently: celeste crosscode slay the spire age of empires DE necrodancer (this one's pretty old though) atelier ryza blazblue crosstag overcooked2 They're definitely harder to find than AAA stuff since they aren't advertised everywhere nor do they extort reviewers for scores but they are there if you look </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsucaHayashi 02/07/20 11:15:12 AM #34:	Killah Priest posted... problem is a lot of them are overcharging nowadays trying to sell for AAA price. shenmue 3 comes to mind xd --- http://abload.de/img/pcgamingxtuvt.jpg https://imgur.com/9Yv0R2Z <cite>AsucaHayashi posted [p:934056629] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>Killah Priest posted... </cite> <quote>problem is a lot of them are overcharging nowadays trying to sell for AAA price.</quote> shenmue 3 comes to mind xd </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pres_madagascar 02/07/20 10:38:11 PM #35:	Guns_of_Verdun posted... didn't Greedfall do really well? Outer Worlds too Greedfall did great for that dev yes. --- https://imgur.com/23CCcZB https://imgur.com/32mwCo1 https://imgur.com/oqklqKC <cite>pres_madagascar posted [p:934083941] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>Guns_of_Verdun posted... </cite> <quote>didn't Greedfall do really well? Outer Worlds too</quote>Greedfall did great for that dev yes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guns_of_Verdun 02/08/20 10:49:50 AM #36:	pres_madagascar posted... Greedfall did great for that dev yes. yay --- https://imgur.com/VwJsmAR <cite>Guns_of_Verdun posted [p:934098515] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>pres_madagascar posted... </cite> <quote>Greedfall did great for that dev yes.</quote>yay </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sabin017 02/08/20 11:25:55 AM #38:	The A material is the stuff that's usually made free (either by subscription or promo) down the line anyways so people kinda know to hold until they're free. Rebel Galaxy is one of the best games this gen and it's always being given away for free. --- https://imgur.com/TWsfIIj <cite>sabin017 posted [p:934099525] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>The A material is the stuff that's usually made free (either by subscription or promo) down the line anyways so people kinda know to hold until they're free. Rebel Galaxy is one of the best games this gen and it's always being given away for free. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
unknownhombre 02/08/20 11:43:30 AM #39:	Yes, absolutely. More mid-tier titles would be great. --- "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, still exists." <cite>unknownhombre posted [p:934100095] in do we need... [t:78388678]...</cite> <quote>Yes, absolutely. More mid-tier titles would be great. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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