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karlpilkington4 10/31/19 4:27:28 PM #1: |
This might come as a surprise, but I believe Andrew Yang is the best chance this country has at not just surviving, but THRIVING. Contrary to popular belief, I don't actually support Trump as President much, I just don't like people who makeup lies about him or anyone really.
Yang's stances on universal basic income are excellent. Taxing the rich will never work, we are too smart, because there are legal ways to get around it. It's why Amazon didn't pay anything in federal income last year. A VAT tax makes the most sense because you can't get around it. I mean the guys campaign slogan is MATH (Make America Think Harder) Change my mind. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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konokonohamaru 10/31/19 4:29:24 PM #2: |
Where is he gonna get the money to pay for his universal basic income if not taxing the rich?
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brestugo 10/31/19 4:31:40 PM #3: |
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Esrac 10/31/19 4:33:55 PM #5: |
This is the only thing that comes to mind when people talk about Yang. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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karlpilkington4 10/31/19 4:35:03 PM #6: |
konokonohamaru posted...
Where is he gonna get the money to pay for his universal basic income if not taxing the rich? It's called a value added tax. Basically you can tax things like luxury goods, and specific things that super rich companies like Apple and Amazon use on a daily basis to run their business. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Broseph_Stalin 10/31/19 4:35:16 PM #7: |
andrew yang has based his entire campaign around an "issue" he doesn't even understand
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karlpilkington4 10/31/19 4:37:06 PM #8: |
Andrew Yang explains his version of the Value Added Tax(Vat)
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karlpilkington4 10/31/19 4:37:44 PM #9: |
Broseph_Stalin posted...
andrew yang has based his entire campaign around an "issue" he doesn't even understand What issue is that? --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Broseph_Stalin 10/31/19 4:38:33 PM #10: |
automation
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Chad-Henne 10/31/19 4:39:44 PM #11: |
Lmao
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karlpilkington4 10/31/19 4:39:53 PM #12: |
Broseph_Stalin posted...
automation Can you explain what you believe, he doesnt understand about it? --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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konokonohamaru 10/31/19 4:42:15 PM #13: |
Value added tax hurts regular consumers because they get passed onto the price of the products.
Since poor people spend more of their income actually buying stuff as opposed to investing, a VAT will hurt regular people more than the wealthy --- A very happy young man looking forward to a bright and wonderful future. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 10/31/19 4:43:51 PM #14: |
karlpilkington4 posted...
konokonohamaru posted...Where is he gonna get the money to pay for his universal basic income if not taxing the rich? The last time the US tried a VAT, mass uprising happened. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Machete 10/31/19 4:44:27 PM #15: |
I think actual Karl Pilkington would make a good president but I think he is too "not born in united states" to qualify :(
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Balrog0 10/31/19 4:45:13 PM #16: |
I like Yang he's pretty alright. Kids should also get a UBI though
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Questionmarktarius 10/31/19 4:47:02 PM #17: |
Balrog0 posted...
Kids should also get a UBI though They're pretty much the only people who get one right now. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 10/31/19 4:48:02 PM #18: |
You'd think so but the way the EITC and CTC are structured kind of exclude the poorest people from claiming the full benefits by design so the UBI would be better
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metralo 10/31/19 4:48:06 PM #19: |
imagine voting for a guy because of a meme
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Questionmarktarius 10/31/19 4:49:48 PM #21: |
Balrog0 posted...
You'd think so but the way the EITC and CTC are structured kind of exclude the poorest people from claiming the full benefits by design so the UBI would be better Yes, I have seen that graph. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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karlpilkington4 10/31/19 4:50:07 PM #22: |
Machete posted...
I think actual Karl Pilkington would make a good president but I think he is too "not born in united states" to qualify :( lol, wtf does that mean? --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Broseph_Stalin 10/31/19 4:51:20 PM #23: |
karlpilkington4 posted...
Can you explain what you believe, he doesnt understand about it? andrew yang believes automation has a negative impact on the economy and cost us jobs. "robots took r jerbs!" is a very common economic myth but you'd expect a guy who's portraying himself as a policy wonk to be a little more informed than the average person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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karlpilkington4 10/31/19 4:57:27 PM #26: |
Bullet_Wing posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...Machete posted...I think actual Karl Pilkington would make a good president but I think he is too "not born in united states" to qualify :( No see, I named myself after a person I like a lot. But I am not him. I do not identify with being from the U.K, which is why I didnt understand the reference. Thanks for clarifying. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Monolith1676 10/31/19 4:58:18 PM #27: |
He likes math and math is racist, ergo he is racist.
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konokonohamaru 10/31/19 5:02:41 PM #29: |
Broseph_Stalin posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...Can you explain what you believe, he doesnt understand about it? automation is good for the economy but it has the potential to create a much more unequal income distribution. --- A very happy young man looking forward to a bright and wonderful future. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Broseph_Stalin 10/31/19 5:08:15 PM #30: |
income inequality is largely meaningless
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Questionmarktarius 10/31/19 5:09:31 PM #31: |
Broseph_Stalin posted...
income inequality is largely meaningless outcome inequality is a disastrous goal. http://www.tnellen.com/cybereng/harrison.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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konokonohamaru 10/31/19 5:10:18 PM #32: |
Broseph_Stalin posted...
income inequality is largely meaningless you might think so, but the facts are that most people care about income inequality --- A very happy young man looking forward to a bright and wonderful future. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZMythos 10/31/19 5:11:54 PM #33: |
If you don't think automation is going to replace 90% of jobs then you need to do some reading.
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legendarylemur 10/31/19 5:12:00 PM #34: |
Broseph_Stalin posted...
andrew yang believes automation has a negative impact on the economy and cost us jobs.That part of him is worrying. The Luddite Fallacy is something used to justify exploitation of workers and workers' unevolving skillset for the longest time. But sometimes politicians do fall on that fallacy in a feeble attempt to appeal to some of the lower class citizens where falling into the fallacy is more naturally logical --- "Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo https://i.imgtc.com/7dRrfE1.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Broseph_Stalin 10/31/19 5:15:41 PM #35: |
ZMythos posted...
If you don't think automation is going to replace 90% of jobs then you need to do some reading. dudes who couldn't pass a high school economics class are always the ones telling you to read a book lol ... Copied to Clipboard!
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1337toothbrush 10/31/19 5:22:47 PM #37: |
Broseph_Stalin posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...Can you explain what you believe, he doesnt understand about it? No he doesn't, that's your stupid interpretation. He said automation is great for the economy but not necessarily great for jobs. He says metrics like GDP are flawed and don't accurately measure how regular people are doing. You speak about being informed and yet you can't even get basic facts about your target straight. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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legendarylemur 10/31/19 5:23:43 PM #38: |
Yeah anybody who's studied economics on the most basic level should be able to agree to the logic of automation basically having very low to no downside. They don't replace jobs more than improve the overall standard of living and reduce the bottom of the barrel menial jobs. In real life, there are problems with people being unable to adapt, but in general, there will usually still be plenty of menial work available from industries that don't grow as quickly.
As logical as automation being good is, this fact is not exactly an easy thing to convince people. I swear at least half the people here are on the other side of the Luddite Fallacy. It's because they can see with their eyes that machines replacing certain jobs on a short term, but it's far harder to see what happens on a long term basis. --- "Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo https://i.imgtc.com/7dRrfE1.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Broseph_Stalin 10/31/19 5:27:01 PM #39: |
1337toothbrush posted...
he said automation is great for the economy but not necessarily great for jobs. would love to see your examples of a growing economy with rising unemployment ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Machete 10/31/19 5:27:32 PM #40: |
karlpilkington4 posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...karlpilkington4 posted...Machete posted...I think actual Karl Pilkington would make a good president but I think he is too "not born in united states" to qualify :( "Actual Karl Pilkington" is what I refer to him as when talking to you specifically about him, in order to avoid confusion, so because he wasn't born in the US, he can't be president. --- #DickheadDonald #LockTrumpUp ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_A_Battery 10/31/19 5:28:41 PM #41: |
Yes yang money plzkthx
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Machete 10/31/19 5:28:50 PM #42: |
ZMythos posted...
If you don't think automation is going to replace 90% of jobs then you need to do some reading. It won't replace mine lol --- #TremblingTrump #LockTrumpUp ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZMythos 10/31/19 5:30:08 PM #43: |
Machete posted...
It won't replace mine lol I don't know what your job is, but AI and neural network improvements will also replace many white collar jobs, too. --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: *kissu* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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legendarylemur 10/31/19 5:30:59 PM #44: |
Even if one day somehow automation is advanced enough to replace 90% of current jobs, advancing technology generally results in a huge array of other jobs or even the ideal future in which the concept of job is optional, as well as currency. When everything is perfectly ran without bias, it doesn't make sense for things to stay as it is now. If anything, we're currently still living in a pretty bum time
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konokonohamaru 10/31/19 5:32:57 PM #45: |
legendarylemur posted...
Even if one day somehow automation is advanced enough to replace 90% of current jobs, advancing technology generally results in a huge array of other jobs or even the ideal future in which the concept of job is optional, as well as currency. When everything is perfectly ran without bias, it doesn't make sense for things to stay as it is now. If anything, we're currently still living in a pretty bum time Eh, that's a bit utopian. I don't believe Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek vision will ever be a reality. In fact, I think their social advancement is more unrealistic than their technological advancement --- A very happy young man looking forward to a bright and wonderful future. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bover_87 10/31/19 5:34:03 PM #46: |
oh look funbazooka is back and shitposting up a storm
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1337toothbrush 10/31/19 5:34:43 PM #47: |
Broseph_Stalin posted...
1337toothbrush posted...he said automation is great for the economy but not necessarily great for jobs. Ever wonder why a smaller group of people own a larger share of the world's wealth? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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1337toothbrush 10/31/19 5:36:43 PM #48: |
legendarylemur posted...
Yeah anybody who's studied economics on the most basic level should be able to agree to the logic of automation basically having very low to no downside. They don't replace jobs more than improve the overall standard of living and reduce the bottom of the barrel menial jobs. In real life, there are problems with people being unable to adapt, but in general, there will usually still be plenty of menial work available from industries that don't grow as quickly. There will always be more jobs for more horses. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sega95 10/31/19 5:39:22 PM #49: |
karlpilkington4 posted...
konokonohamaru posted...Where is he gonna get the money to pay for his universal basic income if not taxing the rich? And what will you do when Apple and Amazon turn around and say ok your taxing us? We'll cut our workforce to make up for the profits we are losing. We'll also outsource to other countries, and not keep our money in the US to avoid other taxes. By the way, since you decided to tax us, we are going to charge you extra fees to buy our products. Thanks :) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 10/31/19 5:41:12 PM #51: |
Sega95 posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...konokonohamaru posted...Where is he gonna get the money to pay for his universal basic income if not taxing the rich? tl;dr Corporations do not pay taxes. Only people do. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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