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voldothegr8 09/11/19 10:12:25 PM #1:	Ban pit bulls? - Results (10 votes) Yes 60% (6 votes) 6 No 40% (4 votes) 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBjnHftllhA" data-time="&start=738 Here's the study she's referencing, a 15 year study on dog bites from doctors in hospitals, funded by OSU https://www.ohio.com/news/20190522/which-dogs-have-most-damaging-bites-study-reveals-riskiest-breeds COLUMBUS Pit bulls and mixed breed dogs pose the highest risk of biting and cause the most damage per bite, a new study says. That should put parents of young children on alert when choosing a dog, researchers said. The Ohio State University College of Medicine and the Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center researched which types of dogs have the biggest risk of biting with severe injury, along with the physical traits associated with those bites. The top biter was classified as unknown, followed by, in order: pit bulls, mixed breeds, German shepherds, terriers and Rottweilers. Researchers also identified dogs with wide and short heads weighing between 66 and 100 pounds as posing a risk. The bottom five breeds for biting were: Dalmatian, Pointer, Great Danes, Pekingese and Spitz. The study was released this week and published in the International Journal of Pediatric Otorhinolaryngology. Researchers reviewed 15 years of dog-related facial trauma cases from Nationwide Childrens Hospital and the University of Virginia Health System. They studied wound size, tissue tearing, bone fractures and other injuries severe enough to require consultation by a reconstructive surgeon and created a damage severity scale. They also examined previous dog bite research dating to 1970. Theres an estimated 83 million owned dogs in the United States and that number continues to climb, Dr. Garth Essig, lead author and otolaryngologist at the Wexner Medical Center, said in a prepared statement. We wanted to provide families with data to help them determine the risk to their children and inform them on which types of dogs do well in households with kids. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 4.7 million people in the United States are bitten by dogs each year, and 20 percent of the victims require medical care. Those who require treatment are mostly children ages 5 to 9 years. Dr. Ananth Murthy, director of pediatric plastic and reconstructive surgery at Akron Childrens Hospital, said surgeons there see many severe dog bite cases each year, with most of those bites coming from pit bulls. So far this year, 12 patients have been admitted to the hospital because of dog bites. Akron Childrens has averaged 28 patients being admitted for dog bites from 2014 through 2018. Murthy was not surprised by the results of the Ohio State study. This is an open secret, he said. Its always pit bulls but the problem is there are a number of people who own pit bulls and they are in permanent denial. ... They just are. They are just not looking at all the numbers or theyre not exposed to it. They are just not seeing what were seeing. Were the ones dealing with the aftermath. Everybody in the medical community [is] saying that pit bulls are a problem. While all dogs bite, pit bull bites are more severe because of the dogs strength and how its jaws clamp down, he said. The danger is more pronounced for children whose faces are often on the same level as pit bulls and can be perceived as a threat, Murthy said. The dogs sometimes will attack a childs head and neck, he said. Dog owners react Several dog owners hanging out with their pets this week at the Akron Dog Park in the citys Merriman Hills neighborhood questioned whether the stigma surrounding pit bulls is deserved. Its just a stereotype, said Jenna Bellville, 23, of Akron. It all comes down to the dog owner. --- Oda break tracker 2019- 6 (4) \| THE Ohio State: 2-0 \| Oakland Raiders: 1-0 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:927313634] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote> Ban pit bulls? - Results (10 votes) Yes 60% (6 votes) 6 No 40% (4 votes) 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBjnHftllhA" data-time="&start=738 Here's the study she's referencing, a 15 year study on dog bites from doctors in hospitals, funded by OSU <quote>https://www.ohio.com/news/20190522/which-dogs-have-most-damaging-bites-study-reveals-riskiest-breeds COLUMBUS Pit bulls and mixed breed dogs pose the highest risk of biting and cause the most damage per bite, a new study says. That should put parents of young children on alert when choosing a dog, researchers said. The Ohio State University College of Medicine and the Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center researched which types of dogs have the biggest risk of biting with severe injury, along with the physical traits associated with those bites. The top biter was classified as unknown, followed by, in order: pit bulls, mixed breeds, German shepherds, terriers and Rottweilers. Researchers also identified dogs with wide and short heads weighing between 66 and 100 pounds as posing a risk. The bottom five breeds for biting were: Dalmatian, Pointer, Great Danes, Pekingese and Spitz. The study was released this week and published in the International Journal of Pediatric Otorhinolaryngology. Researchers reviewed 15 years of dog-related facial trauma cases from Nationwide Childrens Hospital and the University of Virginia Health System. They studied wound size, tissue tearing, bone fractures and other injuries severe enough to require consultation by a reconstructive surgeon and created a damage severity scale. They also examined previous dog bite research dating to 1970. Theres an estimated 83 million owned dogs in the United States and that number continues to climb, Dr. Garth Essig, lead author and otolaryngologist at the Wexner Medical Center, said in a prepared statement. We wanted to provide families with data to help them determine the risk to their children and inform them on which types of dogs do well in households with kids. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 4.7 million people in the United States are bitten by dogs each year, and 20 percent of the victims require medical care. Those who require treatment are mostly children ages 5 to 9 years. Dr. Ananth Murthy, director of pediatric plastic and reconstructive surgery at Akron Childrens Hospital, said surgeons there see many severe dog bite cases each year, with most of those bites coming from pit bulls. So far this year, 12 patients have been admitted to the hospital because of dog bites. Akron Childrens has averaged 28 patients being admitted for dog bites from 2014 through 2018. Murthy was not surprised by the results of the Ohio State study. This is an open secret, he said. Its always pit bulls but the problem is there are a number of people who own pit bulls and they are in permanent denial. ... They just are. They are just not looking at all the numbers or theyre not exposed to it. They are just not seeing what were seeing. Were the ones dealing with the aftermath. Everybody in the medical community [is] saying that pit bulls are a problem. While all dogs bite, pit bull bites are more severe because of the dogs strength and how its jaws clamp down, he said. The danger is more pronounced for children whose faces are often on the same level as pit bulls and can be perceived as a threat, Murthy said. The dogs sometimes will attack a childs head and neck, he said. Dog owners react Several dog owners hanging out with their pets this week at the Akron Dog Park in the citys Merriman Hills neighborhood questioned whether the stigma surrounding pit bulls is deserved. Its just a stereotype, said Jenna Bellville, 23, of Akron. It all comes down to the dog owner.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dat_Cracka_Jax 09/11/19 10:15:07 PM #4:	Oh, it's already time for this topic again? --- http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 <cite>Dat_Cracka_Jax posted [p:927313732] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>Oh, it's already time for this topic again?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zack_Attackv1 09/11/19 10:15:54 PM #5:	Spooking posted... What happened to her hair? She's a big fan of that Supreme Court Justice, I forget her name. --- https://imgur.com/UJtpbov https://imgur.com/dqttkJA =w= <cite>Zack_Attackv1 posted [p:927313762] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>Spooking posted...</cite> <quote>What happened to her hair? </quote> She's a big fan of that Supreme Court Justice, I forget her name.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wewillrocku 09/11/19 10:15:57 PM #6:	there's no dog clause in the constitution. <cite>Wewillrocku posted [p:927313763] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>there's no dog clause in the constitution.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 09/11/19 10:16:53 PM #7:	Dat_Cracka_Jax posted... Oh, it's already time for this topic again? --- "A guy talking into the camera about politics? My favorite." - Phantom_Nook Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:927313792] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...</cite> <quote>Oh, it's already time for this topic again?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 09/12/19 8:12:18 AM #8:	--- Oda break tracker 2019- 6 (4) \| THE Ohio State: 2-0 \| Oakland Raiders: 1-0 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:927327796] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 09/12/19 8:15:50 AM #9:	So whats her take on circumcision? --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna *COMBINED!* <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:927327880] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>So whats her take on circumcision?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 09/12/19 8:25:53 AM #10:	judge judy is generally an intelligent, well grounded person but she is ignorant in this case. a pit bull is as good as its owner. an aggressive pit bull is only aggressive because of its shit owner. thats the only reason. pitbulls with good owners aren't aggressive. end of story --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:927328114] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>judge judy is generally an intelligent, well grounded person but she is ignorant in this case. a pit bull is as good as its owner. an aggressive pit bull is only aggressive because of its shit owner. thats the only reason. pitbulls with good owners aren't aggressive. end of story</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 09/12/19 9:09:04 AM #11:	They continue to be right about people in denial --- Oda break tracker 2019- 6 (4) \| THE Ohio State: 2-0 \| Oakland Raiders: 1-0 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:927329262] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>They continue to be right about people in denial</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Middle hope 09/12/19 9:18:32 AM #12:	voldothegr8 posted... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1o3koTLWM" data-time=" --- https://i.imgtc.ws/MAd5hwq.gif <cite>Middle hope posted [p:927329533] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>voldothegr8 posted... </cite> <quote></quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1o3koTLWM" data-time=" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LadyVyxx 09/12/19 9:19:36 AM #13:	Pretty sure they are already banned in Ontario which is where I live. The topic still comes up on local radio stations periodically <cite>LadyVyxx posted [p:927329566] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>Pretty sure they are already banned in Ontario which is where I live. The topic still comes up on local radio stations periodically</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 09/12/19 10:04:53 AM #14:	Rika_Furude posted... judge judy is generally an intelligent, well grounded person but she is ignorant in this case. a pit bull is as good as its owner. an aggressive pit bull is only aggressive because of its shit owner. thats the only reason. pitbulls with good owners aren't aggressive. end of story this is true. there's a good reason why they're not a first time owner dog. they have to be worked with on a daily basis especially being socialized at an early age and teaching it good manners (it pays off if can do all this) total sweety that dog is. --- The act of treachery is an art, but the traitor himself is a piece of **** - Mike Tyson <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:927330843] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>judge judy is generally an intelligent, well grounded person but she is ignorant in this case. a pit bull is as good as its owner. an aggressive pit bull is only aggressive because of its shit owner. thats the only reason. pitbulls with good owners aren't aggressive. end of story</quote> this is true. there's a good reason why they're not a first time owner dog. they have to be worked with on a daily basis especially being socialized at an early age and teaching it good manners (it pays off if can do all this) total sweety that dog is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 09/12/19 10:05:59 AM #15:	Judge Judy is a very smart woman. I believe her. --- The best posts, believe me. <cite>Caution999 posted [p:927330883] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>Judge Judy is a very smart woman. I believe her. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Taharqa_ 09/12/19 10:10:47 AM #17:	Willing to bet my last dollar that Judge Judy doesn't know what a Pit Bull actually looks like. --- "If you want to move fast, practice slowly...if you want to move like lightning, practice in stillness." <cite>Taharqa_ posted [p:927331044] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>Willing to bet my last dollar that Judge Judy doesn't know what a Pit Bull actually looks like.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/12/19 10:10:51 AM #18:	voldothegr8 posted... The lesson here seems to be that cracking down on dog fights just lets fighting dogs out into the general population. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:927331048] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote></quote> The lesson here seems to be that cracking down on dog fights just lets fighting dogs out into the general population.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMallard 09/12/19 10:14:19 AM #19:	I trust her to fill a half-hour time slot with entertaining hijinks and know a thing or two about the word of the law, but I wouldn't support her in a venture that supports mandatory slaughter over the belief that a healthy breed of dog is inherently more violent than others. Like obviously a Great Dane is going to do more damage than a chihuahua, but this "sudden unavoidable killswitch" that is hard-coded into the genetics of a pitbull, or what have you? I can't see it as anything other than bullshit. They do more damage, and maybe pitbulls are high maintenance compared to a German Shepard or what have you. But they're not bred to be indiscriminate killers, like some of the more reactionary backlash has devolved into. Love a dumbass courtroom scrap, and I think she's knowledgeable and literate about the law. Even as a television personality first and foremost, she knows more about the law than I do. but as far as legislation on animal regulation goes? I'm not going to trust a reality TV judge to condemn an entire breed of dogs to death. --- And I am done with my graceless heart, so tonight I'm gonna cut it out and then restart Now Playing: Yakuza 5, Final Fantasy X-2, Minecraft <cite>MrMallard posted [p:927331179] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>I trust her to fill a half-hour time slot with entertaining hijinks and know a thing or two about the word of the law, but I wouldn't support her in a venture that supports mandatory slaughter over the belief that a healthy breed of dog is inherently more violent than others. Like obviously a Great Dane is going to do more damage than a chihuahua, but this "sudden unavoidable killswitch" that is hard-coded into the genetics of a pitbull, or what have you? I can't see it as anything other than bullshit. They do more damage, and maybe pitbulls are high maintenance compared to a German Shepard or what have you. But they're not bred to be indiscriminate killers, like some of the more reactionary backlash has devolved into. Love a dumbass courtroom scrap, and I think she's knowledgeable and literate about the law. Even as a television personality first and foremost, she knows more about the law than I do. but as far as legislation on animal regulation goes? I'm not going to trust a reality TV judge to condemn an entire breed of dogs to death.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romulox28 09/12/19 10:20:54 AM #20:	Rika_Furude posted... a pit bull is as good as its owner. lmao do ppl really believe this? --- https://imgur.com/LhwwG <cite>Romulox28 posted [p:927331410] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite> <quote>a pit bull is as good as its owner.</quote>lmao do ppl really believe this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HerpToTheDerp 09/12/19 10:22:44 AM #21:	Romulox28 posted... Rika_Furude posted... a pit bull is as good as its owner. lmao do ppl really believe this? There's a reason pitbull bingo exists. No other owner is in denial any harder than a pitbull owner. <cite>HerpToTheDerp posted [p:927331466] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>Romulox28 posted...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite> <quote>a pit bull is as good as its owner.</quote>lmao do ppl really believe this? </quote> There's a reason pitbull bingo exists. No other owner is in denial any harder than a pitbull owner.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGreatGeno6 09/12/19 10:24:29 AM #22:	IMO if someone chooses to have a pitbull and the pitbull kills someone, the owner should go to jail for manslaughter. If you choose to keep a dangerous dog then you should be held responsible if said dog murders someone. --- Formerly known as Genocet_10-325 Conservatism is a plague on society. <cite>TheGreatGeno6 posted [p:927331532] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>IMO if someone chooses to have a pitbull and the pitbull kills someone, the owner should go to jail for manslaughter. If you choose to keep a dangerous dog then you should be held responsible if said dog murders someone. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 09/12/19 10:27:33 AM #23:	I don't really believe that the behavior between dog breeds is primarily or even significantly genetic. I'm wary of behavioral genetics in general because when it comes to behavior, nurture > nature by leagues and bounds --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:927331676] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>I don't really believe that the behavior between dog breeds is primarily or even significantly genetic. I'm wary of behavioral genetics in general because when it comes to behavior, nurture > nature by leagues and bounds</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 09/12/19 10:28:17 AM #24:	If you're on the same side as Judge Judy on anything you're probably wrong tbh. --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:927331709] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>If you're on the same side as Judge Judy on anything you're probably wrong tbh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 09/12/19 10:30:06 AM #25:	They aren't getting banned and nobody intelligent wants that. Move on. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:927331780] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>They aren't getting banned and nobody intelligent wants that. Move on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/12/19 10:31:10 AM #26:	ThyCorndog posted... I don't really believe that the behavior between dog breeds is primarily or even significantly genetic. Dog have been unnaturally selected for specific traits, including behavior, since at least the last ice age. see also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesticated_red_fox <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:927331814] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>I don't really believe that the behavior between dog breeds is primarily or even significantly genetic.</quote> Dog have been unnaturally selected for specific traits, including behavior, since at least the last ice age. see also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesticated_red_fox</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Philoktetes 09/12/19 10:32:02 AM #27:	a daytime tv show host is racist what a shocker --- I don't think so, Tim. ~~ Pizza Crew ~~ <cite>Philoktetes posted [p:927331851] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>a daytime tv show host is racist what a shocker</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGreatGeno6 09/12/19 10:33:09 AM #28:	Philoktetes posted... a daytime tv show host is racist what a shocker Shut the fuck up and go back to shitposting on LL. --- Formerly known as Genocet_10-325 Conservatism is a plague on society. <cite>TheGreatGeno6 posted [p:927331900] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>Philoktetes posted... </cite> <quote>a daytime tv show host is racist what a shocker</quote>Shut the fuck up and go back to shitposting on LL. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 09/12/19 10:33:44 AM #29:	Questionmarktarius posted... ThyCorndog posted... I don't really believe that the behavior between dog breeds is primarily or even significantly genetic. Dog have been unnaturally selected for specific traits, including behavior, since at least the last ice age. see also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesticated_red_fox Dogs in general sure, but is that true for breeds? --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:927331913] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>I don't really believe that the behavior between dog breeds is primarily or even significantly genetic.</quote> Dog have been unnaturally selected for specific traits, including behavior, since at least the last ice age. see also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesticated_red_fox</quote> Dogs in general sure, but is that true for breeds?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/12/19 10:34:16 AM #30:	ThyCorndog posted... Questionmarktarius posted... ThyCorndog posted... I don't really believe that the behavior between dog breeds is primarily or even significantly genetic. Dog have been unnaturally selected for specific traits, including behavior, since at least the last ice age. see also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesticated_red_fox Dogs in general sure, but is that true for breeds? That's why breeds even exist. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:927331948] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>I don't really believe that the behavior between dog breeds is primarily or even significantly genetic.</quote> Dog have been unnaturally selected for specific traits, including behavior, since at least the last ice age. see also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesticated_red_fox</quote> Dogs in general sure, but is that true for breeds?</quote> That's why breeds even exist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThyCorndog 09/12/19 10:36:16 AM #32:	Questionmarktarius posted... ThyCorndog posted... Questionmarktarius posted... ThyCorndog posted... I don't really believe that the behavior between dog breeds is primarily or even significantly genetic. Dog have been unnaturally selected for specific traits, including behavior, since at least the last ice age. see also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesticated_red_fox Dogs in general sure, but is that true for breeds? That's why breeds even exist. behavior isn't as quick to change genetically the way color and shape are though. it's like how humans come in different heights and colors but the behavioral differences are not noticeably genetic. differences in dog breeds are a step further than the differences in humans, but in my experience I've seen dogs of every breed act very similarly --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:927332019] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>I don't really believe that the behavior between dog breeds is primarily or even significantly genetic.</quote> Dog have been unnaturally selected for specific traits, including behavior, since at least the last ice age. see also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesticated_red_fox</quote> Dogs in general sure, but is that true for breeds?</quote> That's why breeds even exist.</quote> behavior isn't as quick to change genetically the way color and shape are though. it's like how humans come in different heights and colors but the behavioral differences are not noticeably genetic. differences in dog breeds are a step further than the differences in humans, but in my experience I've seen dogs of every breed act very similarly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romulox28 09/12/19 10:37:31 AM #33:	ThyCorndog posted... I don't really believe that the behavior between dog breeds is primarily or even significantly genetic. I'm wary of behavioral genetics in general because when it comes to behavior, nurture > nature by leagues and bounds we are talking about dogs here, not people the modern dog has a brain the size of a walnut & is the result of hundreds of years of inbreeding, all specifically to give them particular traits. their DNA is all fucked up, all dogs have the dog equivalent of Williams Syndrome, etc. this is an interesting read: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/07/what-makes-dogs-so-friendly-study-finds-genetic-link-super-outgoing-people --- https://imgur.com/LhwwG <cite>Romulox28 posted [p:927332071] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>ThyCorndog posted... </cite> <quote>I don't really believe that the behavior between dog breeds is primarily or even significantly genetic. I'm wary of behavioral genetics in general because when it comes to behavior, nurture > nature by leagues and bounds</quote>we are talking about dogs here, not people the modern dog has a brain the size of a walnut & is the result of hundreds of years of inbreeding, all specifically to give them particular traits. their DNA is all fucked up, all dogs have the dog equivalent of Williams Syndrome, etc. this is an interesting read: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/07/what-makes-dogs-so-friendly-study-finds-genetic-link-super-outgoing-people </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGreatGeno6 09/12/19 10:38:21 AM #34:	Hairistotle posted... why do people keep saying pitbulls are fine even though they seem to kill a lot of people? are reports highly exaggerated or something? No, they're not. Pitbull owners are the ones pushing the "Pitbulls are safe!!!" bullshit Not all pitbulls are bad, but most of them are, and the bad ones should be destroyed. --- Formerly known as Genocet_10-325 Conservatism is a plague on society. <cite>TheGreatGeno6 posted [p:927332106] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>Hairistotle posted...</cite> <quote>why do people keep saying pitbulls are fine even though they seem to kill a lot of people? are reports highly exaggerated or something?</quote> No, they're not. Pitbull owners are the ones pushing the "Pitbulls are safe!!!" bullshit Not all pitbulls are bad, but most of them are, and the bad ones should be destroyed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
__bale 09/12/19 10:40:20 AM #35:	ThyCorndog posted... I don't really believe that the behavior between dog breeds is primarily or even significantly genetic. ROFL imagine unironically thinking this. i hope you are 12 --- wow strafing tryhards, i always stand still so the bullets can hit me. Whenever someone trys to dodge my shots i know they're a virgin LMAO <cite>__bale posted [p:927332192] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>I don't really believe that the behavior between dog breeds is primarily or even significantly genetic. </quote> ROFL imagine unironically thinking this. i hope you are 12</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 09/12/19 10:40:43 AM #36:	Romulox28 posted... ThyCorndog posted... I don't really believe that the behavior between dog breeds is primarily or even significantly genetic. I'm wary of behavioral genetics in general because when it comes to behavior, nurture > nature by leagues and bounds we are talking about dogs here, not people the modern dog has a brain the size of a walnut & is the result of hundreds of years of inbreeding, all specifically to give them particular traits. their DNA is all fucked up, all dogs have the dog equivalent of Williams Syndrome, etc. this is an interesting read: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/07/what-makes-dogs-so-friendly-study-finds-genetic-link-super-outgoing-people dang. didn't know about that. interesting --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:927332211] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>Romulox28 posted...</cite> <quote>ThyCorndog posted... </cite> <quote>I don't really believe that the behavior between dog breeds is primarily or even significantly genetic. I'm wary of behavioral genetics in general because when it comes to behavior, nurture > nature by leagues and bounds</quote>we are talking about dogs here, not people the modern dog has a brain the size of a walnut & is the result of hundreds of years of inbreeding, all specifically to give them particular traits. their DNA is all fucked up, all dogs have the dog equivalent of Williams Syndrome, etc. this is an interesting read: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/07/what-makes-dogs-so-friendly-study-finds-genetic-link-super-outgoing-people </quote> dang. didn't know about that. interesting</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 09/12/19 10:40:58 AM #37:	__bale posted... ThyCorndog posted... I don't really believe that the behavior between dog breeds is primarily or even significantly genetic. ROFL imagine unironically thinking this. i hope you are 12 say that to my face irl --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:927332225] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>__bale posted...</cite> <quote>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>I don't really believe that the behavior between dog breeds is primarily or even significantly genetic. </quote> ROFL imagine unironically thinking this. i hope you are 12</quote> say that to my face irl</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGreatGeno6 09/12/19 10:40:59 AM #38:	__bale posted... ThyCorndog posted... I don't really believe that the behavior between dog breeds is primarily or even significantly genetic. ROFL imagine unironically thinking this. i hope you are 12 He obviously knows absolutely nothing about dogs and is just talking out his ass with assumptions. --- Formerly known as Genocet_10-325 Conservatism is a plague on society. <cite>TheGreatGeno6 posted [p:927332227] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>__bale posted...</cite> <quote>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>I don't really believe that the behavior between dog breeds is primarily or even significantly genetic. </quote> ROFL imagine unironically thinking this. i hope you are 12</quote> He obviously knows absolutely nothing about dogs and is just talking out his ass with assumptions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Taharqa_ 09/12/19 10:43:58 AM #39:	TheGreatGeno6 posted... Hairistotle posted... why do people keep saying pitbulls are fine even though they seem to kill a lot of people? are reports highly exaggerated or something? No, they're not. Pitbull owners are the ones pushing the "Pitbulls are safe!!!" bullshit Not all pitbulls are bad, but most of them are, and the bad ones should be destroyed. That's bs --- "If you want to move fast, practice slowly...if you want to move like lightning, practice in stillness." <cite>Taharqa_ posted [p:927332359] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>TheGreatGeno6 posted...</cite> <quote>Hairistotle posted...</cite> <quote>why do people keep saying pitbulls are fine even though they seem to kill a lot of people? are reports highly exaggerated or something?</quote> No, they're not. Pitbull owners are the ones pushing the "Pitbulls are safe!!!" bullshit Not all pitbulls are bad, but most of them are, and the bad ones should be destroyed.</quote> That's bs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YokoGeri 09/12/19 10:46:28 AM #40:	plays Nsync Tune Hey-Hey! Ban Ban Ban, Ban-Ban! Ban-Ban! I'm doing this tonight You're probably gonna start a fight I know this can't be right Hey baby come on I loved you endlessly When you weren't there for me So now it's time to leave and make it alone I know that I can't take no more It ain't no lie I want to see you out that door Baby ban ban ban Ban Ban Don't want to be dog food for you Just another snack in your game for two You may bite me but it ain't no lie Baby ban ban ban Ban ban Don't want to make it tough I just want to tell you that you've bit enough It might sound crazy but it ain't no lie Baby ban ban ban You just bit me with the truth Now dog you're more than welcome to So give me one good reason Baby come on I've pitbull bingo'ed for you and me And now I really come to see That life LOL <cite>YokoGeri posted [p:927332471] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>plays Nsync Tune Hey-Hey! Ban Ban Ban, Ban-Ban! Ban-Ban! I'm doing this tonight You're probably gonna start a fight I know this can't be right Hey baby come on I loved you endlessly When you weren't there for me So now it's time to leave and make it alone I know that I can't take no more It ain't no lie I want to see you out that door Baby ban ban ban Ban Ban Don't want to be dog food for you Just another snack in your game for two You may bite me but it ain't no lie Baby ban ban ban Ban ban Don't want to make it tough I just want to tell you that you've bit enough It might sound crazy but it ain't no lie Baby ban ban ban You just bit me with the truth Now dog you're more than welcome to So give me one good reason Baby come on I've pitbull bingo'ed for you and me And now I really come to see That life LOL</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 09/12/19 10:47:06 AM #41:	Then I guess Judge Judy is just another in the long list of people who don't bother to do deeper research. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:927332498] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>Then I guess Judge Judy is just another in the long list of people who don't bother to do deeper research.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Taharqa_ 09/12/19 10:47:45 AM #42:	Hairistotle posted... why do people keep saying pitbulls are fine even though they seem to kill a lot of people? are reports highly exaggerated or something? There about 5 different breeds that are lumped under the umbrella term "Pit Bull", and because most people don't know what a Pit Bull actually is anything that remotely looks like a Pit Bull is mistaken for one. There is only one Pit Bull and that is the American Pit Bull Terrier. Lumping dogs into one breed is like saying a German Shepard, Dutch Shepard and Belgian Malinois are all the same thing, they're not. --- "If you want to move fast, practice slowly...if you want to move like lightning, practice in stillness." <cite>Taharqa_ posted [p:927332527] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>Hairistotle posted...</cite> <quote>why do people keep saying pitbulls are fine even though they seem to kill a lot of people? are reports highly exaggerated or something?</quote> There about 5 different breeds that are lumped under the umbrella term "Pit Bull", and because most people don't know what a Pit Bull actually is anything that remotely looks like a Pit Bull is mistaken for one. There is only one Pit Bull and that is the American Pit Bull Terrier. Lumping dogs into one breed is like saying a German Shepard, Dutch Shepard and Belgian Malinois are all the same thing, they're not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/12/19 10:49:07 AM #43:	Taharqa_ posted... There about 5 different breeds that are lumped under the umbrella term "Pit Bull", and because most people don't know what a Pit Bull actually is anything that remotely looks like a Pit Bull is mistaken for one. "Assault dogs", huh? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:927332597] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>Taharqa_ posted...</cite> <quote> There about 5 different breeds that are lumped under the umbrella term "Pit Bull", and because most people don't know what a Pit Bull actually is anything that remotely looks like a Pit Bull is mistaken for one.</quote> "Assault dogs", huh?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGreatGeno6 09/12/19 10:58:30 AM #45:	Taharqa_ posted... Hairistotle posted... why do people keep saying pitbulls are fine even though they seem to kill a lot of people? are reports highly exaggerated or something? There about 5 different breeds that are lumped under the umbrella term "Pit Bull", and because most people don't know what a Pit Bull actually is anything that remotely looks like a Pit Bull is mistaken for one. There is only one Pit Bull and that is the American Pit Bull Terrier. Lumping dogs into one breed is like saying a German Shepard, Dutch Shepard and Belgian Malinois are all the same thing, they're not. Wrong! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_bull Normal breeds often considered to be of the pit bull-type include the American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, American Bully, and Staffordshire Bull Terrier. --- Formerly known as Genocet_10-325 Conservatism is a plague on society. <cite>TheGreatGeno6 posted [p:927332979] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>Taharqa_ posted...</cite> <quote>Hairistotle posted...</cite> <quote>why do people keep saying pitbulls are fine even though they seem to kill a lot of people? are reports highly exaggerated or something?</quote> There about 5 different breeds that are lumped under the umbrella term "Pit Bull", and because most people don't know what a Pit Bull actually is anything that remotely looks like a Pit Bull is mistaken for one. There is only one Pit Bull and that is the American Pit Bull Terrier. Lumping dogs into one breed is like saying a German Shepard, Dutch Shepard and Belgian Malinois are all the same thing, they're not.</quote> Wrong! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_bull Normal breeds often considered to be of the pit bull-type include the American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, American Bully, and Staffordshire Bull Terrier.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGreatGeno6 09/12/19 10:59:05 AM #46:	Hairistotle posted... Taharqa_ posted... Hairistotle posted... why do people keep saying pitbulls are fine even though they seem to kill a lot of people? are reports highly exaggerated or something? There about 5 different breeds that are lumped under the umbrella term "Pit Bull", and because most people don't know what a Pit Bull actually is anything that remotely looks like a Pit Bull is mistaken for one. There is only one Pit Bull and that is the American Pit Bull Terrier. Lumping dogs into one breed is like saying a German Shepard, Dutch Shepard and Belgian Malinois are all the same thing, they're not. oh, so pitbulls arent actually killing/maiming people more? people are just misattributing the kills to pitbulls? There's 4 breeds considered to be pit bulls, not one. See my above post. --- Formerly known as Genocet_10-325 Conservatism is a plague on society. <cite>TheGreatGeno6 posted [p:927333002] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>Hairistotle posted...</cite> <quote>Taharqa_ posted...</cite> <quote>Hairistotle posted...</cite> <quote>why do people keep saying pitbulls are fine even though they seem to kill a lot of people? are reports highly exaggerated or something?</quote> There about 5 different breeds that are lumped under the umbrella term "Pit Bull", and because most people don't know what a Pit Bull actually is anything that remotely looks like a Pit Bull is mistaken for one. There is only one Pit Bull and that is the American Pit Bull Terrier. Lumping dogs into one breed is like saying a German Shepard, Dutch Shepard and Belgian Malinois are all the same thing, they're not.</quote> oh, so pitbulls arent actually killing/maiming people more? people are just misattributing the kills to pitbulls?</quote> There's 4 breeds considered to be pit bulls, not one. See my above post.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Taharqa_ 09/12/19 10:59:33 AM #47:	Hairistotle posted... Taharqa_ posted... Hairistotle posted... why do people keep saying pitbulls are fine even though they seem to kill a lot of people? are reports highly exaggerated or something? There about 5 different breeds that are lumped under the umbrella term "Pit Bull", and because most people don't know what a Pit Bull actually is anything that remotely looks like a Pit Bull is mistaken for one. There is only one Pit Bull and that is the American Pit Bull Terrier. Lumping dogs into one breed is like saying a German Shepard, Dutch Shepard and Belgian Malinois are all the same thing, they're not. oh, so pitbulls arent actually killing/maiming people more? people are just misattributing the kills to pitbulls? It inflates bite statistics and spreads misinformation. Pretty much everyone knows what a Rottweiler is, everyone knows what a German Shepard is. The line is muddied when it comes to bull breeds and bull breed mixes. A lot of these man biters are curs and poorly bred bully breed mixes. The average person doesn't know what an APBT looks like, it doesn't help when an owner says their 100 lb bully mix is a "Pit Bull" either. Purebred APBTs (Pit Bulls) are between 30 - 60 lbs, with most being in the low 40s. --- "If you want to move fast, practice slowly...if you want to move like lightning, practice in stillness." <cite>Taharqa_ posted [p:927333021] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>Hairistotle posted...</cite> <quote>Taharqa_ posted...</cite> <quote>Hairistotle posted...</cite> <quote>why do people keep saying pitbulls are fine even though they seem to kill a lot of people? are reports highly exaggerated or something?</quote> There about 5 different breeds that are lumped under the umbrella term "Pit Bull", and because most people don't know what a Pit Bull actually is anything that remotely looks like a Pit Bull is mistaken for one. There is only one Pit Bull and that is the American Pit Bull Terrier. Lumping dogs into one breed is like saying a German Shepard, Dutch Shepard and Belgian Malinois are all the same thing, they're not.</quote> oh, so pitbulls arent actually killing/maiming people more? people are just misattributing the kills to pitbulls?</quote> It inflates bite statistics and spreads misinformation. Pretty much everyone knows what a Rottweiler is, everyone knows what a German Shepard is. The line is muddied when it comes to bull breeds and bull breed mixes. A lot of these man biters are curs and poorly bred bully breed mixes. The average person doesn't know what an APBT looks like, it doesn't help when an owner says their 100 lb bully mix is a "Pit Bull" either. Purebred APBTs (Pit Bulls) are between 30 - 60 lbs, with most being in the low 40s.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Taharqa_ 09/12/19 11:04:41 AM #48:	TheGreatGeno6 posted... Taharqa_ posted... Hairistotle posted... why do people keep saying pitbulls are fine even though they seem to kill a lot of people? are reports highly exaggerated or something? There about 5 different breeds that are lumped under the umbrella term "Pit Bull", and because most people don't know what a Pit Bull actually is anything that remotely looks like a Pit Bull is mistaken for one. There is only one Pit Bull and that is the American Pit Bull Terrier. Lumping dogs into one breed is like saying a German Shepard, Dutch Shepard and Belgian Malinois are all the same thing, they're not. Wrong! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_bull Normal breeds often considered to be of the pit bull-type include the American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, American Bully, and Staffordshire Bull Terrier. Like I said, all different breeds with different breed standards. Again, that's like saying a German Shepard, Dutch Shepard and Belgian Malinois are the same thing with the same temperament, physical appearance and drives. "Pit Bull-type" is a lazy catch all classification. To have an actual Pit Bull, your dog must be papered and have an actual pit fighting dog in their lineage. --- "If you want to move fast, practice slowly...if you want to move like lightning, practice in stillness." <cite>Taharqa_ posted [p:927333248] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>TheGreatGeno6 posted...</cite> <quote>Taharqa_ posted...</cite> <quote>Hairistotle posted...</cite> <quote>why do people keep saying pitbulls are fine even though they seem to kill a lot of people? are reports highly exaggerated or something?</quote> There about 5 different breeds that are lumped under the umbrella term "Pit Bull", and because most people don't know what a Pit Bull actually is anything that remotely looks like a Pit Bull is mistaken for one. There is only one Pit Bull and that is the American Pit Bull Terrier. Lumping dogs into one breed is like saying a German Shepard, Dutch Shepard and Belgian Malinois are all the same thing, they're not.</quote> Wrong! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_bull Normal breeds often considered to be of the pit bull-type include the American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, American Bully, and Staffordshire Bull Terrier.</quote> Like I said, all different breeds with different breed standards. Again, that's like saying a German Shepard, Dutch Shepard and Belgian Malinois are the same thing with the same temperament, physical appearance and drives. "Pit Bull-type" is a lazy catch all classification. To have an actual Pit Bull, your dog must be papered and have an actual pit fighting dog in their lineage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 09/12/19 11:06:16 AM #49:	__bale posted... ThyCorndog posted... I don't really believe that the behavior between dog breeds is primarily or even significantly genetic. ROFL imagine unironically thinking this. i hope you are 12 Yeah, pit bulls are actually significantly less likely to be naturally human aggressive. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:927333312] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>__bale posted...</cite> <quote>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>I don't really believe that the behavior between dog breeds is primarily or even significantly genetic. </quote> ROFL imagine unironically thinking this. i hope you are 12</quote> Yeah, pit bulls are actually significantly less likely to be naturally human aggressive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YokoGeri 09/12/19 11:07:25 AM #50:	fun fact - if pit bulls weren't demonized half of their staunch defenders would not give a fuck about them. <cite>YokoGeri posted [p:927333359] in Judge Judy... [t:78006804]...</cite> <quote>fun fact - if pit bulls weren't demonized half of their staunch defenders would not give a fuck about them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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