Current Events > Did Mueller just bait ol' Trumpy into committing perjury on a take home test?

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Giant_Aspirin 11/28/18 11:12:03 AM #1:	EDIT: Breaking news has rendered the theory below significantly more likely: Manafort is confirmed to have been in constant contact with Trump's lawyers about everything he was discussing with Mueller. The next question is now: Is this event one of the sources of Manafort's lies that were revealed yesterday and has Trump been tricked into telling those same lies? Marcy Wheeler put forth a compelling argument last night that the sequence of events is related to the "Take Home Test" Trump just filled out: Just about the only explanation for Manaforts actions are that as I suggested Trump was happy to have Manafort serve as a mole in Muellers investigation. But Muellers team appears to have no doubt that Manafort was lying to them. That means they didnt really need his testimony, at all. It also means they had no need to keep secrets they could keep giving Manafort the impression that he was pulling a fast one over the prosecutors, all while reporting misleading information to Trump that he could use to fill out his open book test. Which increases the likelihood that Trump just submitted sworn answers to those questions full of lies. Manafort and Trump continued to hold a Joint Defense Agreement after his plea, likely up to the present day. If Trump did this - he is in reasonably deep shit. Mueller will now inform the judge of precisely what Manafort lied about as part of his sentencing. This is a requirement of criminal procedure, and it will all be in the public record. Whitaker cannot do anything to suppress it, as he otherwise would with anything else related to Trump, under the argument sitting presidents cannot be indicted. If these lies were replicated in Trump's written responses....that's ballgame. It's very, very difficult to perjure yourself on a take home test answered with a team of lawyers, but Trump just might have pulled it off. https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/a0vaz8/manafort_held_secret_talks_with_assange_in/eakmffe/ --- Playing: God of War, Octopath Traveler, Soul Calibur VI *(~);} - I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up - {;(~)* <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:913182264] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote>EDIT: Breaking news has rendered the theory below significantly more likely: Manafort is confirmed to have been in constant contact with Trump's lawyers about everything he was discussing with Mueller. The next question is now: Is this event one of the sources of Manafort's lies that were revealed yesterday and has Trump been tricked into telling those same lies? Marcy Wheeler put forth a compelling argument last night that the sequence of events is related to the "Take Home Test" Trump just filled out: Just about the only explanation for Manaforts actions are that as I suggested Trump was happy to have Manafort serve as a mole in Muellers investigation. But Muellers team appears to have no doubt that Manafort was lying to them. That means they didnt really need his testimony, at all. It also means they had no need to keep secrets they could keep giving Manafort the impression that he was pulling a fast one over the prosecutors, all while reporting misleading information to Trump that he could use to fill out his open book test. Which increases the likelihood that Trump just submitted sworn answers to those questions full of lies. Manafort and Trump continued to hold a Joint Defense Agreement after his plea, likely up to the present day. If Trump did this - he is in reasonably deep shit. Mueller will now inform the judge of precisely what Manafort lied about as part of his sentencing. This is a requirement of criminal procedure, and it will all be in the public record. Whitaker cannot do anything to suppress it, as he otherwise would with anything else related to Trump, under the argument sitting presidents cannot be indicted. If these lies were replicated in Trump's written responses....that's ballgame. It's very, very difficult to perjure yourself on a take home test answered with a team of lawyers, but Trump just might have pulled it off. https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/a0vaz8/manafort_held_secret_talks_with_assange_in/eakmffe/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssj3vegeta_ 11/28/18 11:16:51 AM #2:	Nothing will happen --- https://imgur.com/P88EYmN https://imgur.com/qxu2L01 https://imgur.com/1kMCL https://imgur.com/mvXIh0Q <cite>ssj3vegeta_ posted [p:913182505] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote>Nothing will happen</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EliteC 11/28/18 11:17:17 AM #3:	Lmao good going redcaps <cite>EliteC posted [p:913182522] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote>Lmao good going redcaps</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EliteC 11/28/18 11:17:25 AM #4:	ssj3vegeta_ posted... Nothing will happen True :( <cite>EliteC posted [p:913182537] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote><cite>ssj3vegeta_ posted...</cite> <quote>Nothing will happen</quote> True :(</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 11/28/18 11:18:22 AM #5:	ssj3vegeta_ posted... Nothing will happen not with attitudes like that it wont. --- Playing: God of War, Octopath Traveler, Soul Calibur VI *(~);} - I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up - {;(~)* <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:913182596] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote><cite>ssj3vegeta_ posted...</cite> <quote>Nothing will happen</quote> not with attitudes like that it wont.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 11/28/18 11:18:55 AM #6:	like, it's almost impressive that Trump is so fucking stupid he failed a take home test with his lawyers present to help him --- Playing: God of War, Octopath Traveler, Soul Calibur VI *(~);} - I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up - {;(~)* <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:913182626] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote>like, it's almost impressive that Trump is so fucking stupid he failed a take home test with his lawyers present to help him</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 11/28/18 11:26:44 AM #7:	So we can look forward to Trump screaming even more loudly it's a witch hunt? --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:913183020] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote>So we can look forward to Trump screaming even more loudly it's a witch hunt?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 11/28/18 11:27:19 AM #8:	Funkydog posted... So we can look forward to Trump screaming even more loudly it's a witch hunt? he's been on a tirade since Manafort's plea was cancelled due to him being caught lying multiple times --- Playing: God of War, Octopath Traveler, Soul Calibur VI *(~);} - I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up - {;(~)* <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:913183052] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>So we can look forward to Trump screaming even more loudly it's a witch hunt?</quote> he's been on a tirade since Manafort's plea was cancelled due to him being caught lying multiple times</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 11/28/18 11:28:29 AM #9:	Giant_Aspirin posted... ssj3vegeta_ posted... Nothing will happen not with attitudes like that it wont. I think it's more of a recognition that the national GOP will never turn on Trump at this point, and they control the Senate which blocks any impeachment process. He's president until January 2021 like it or hate it. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:913183109] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ssj3vegeta_ posted...</cite> <quote>Nothing will happen</quote> not with attitudes like that it wont.</quote> I think it's more of a recognition that the national GOP will never turn on Trump at this point, and they control the Senate which blocks any impeachment process. He's president until January 2021 like it or hate it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 11/28/18 11:36:06 AM #10:	K181 posted... I think it's more of a recognition that the national GOP will never turn on Trump at this point the GOP universally backed Nixon until the evidence was just too strong. as long as there's still reasonable speculation about Trumpy's guilt they'll continue to back him. --- Playing: God of War, Octopath Traveler, Soul Calibur VI *(~);} - I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up - {;(~)* <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:913183562] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote><cite>K181 posted...</cite> <quote>I think it's more of a recognition that the national GOP will never turn on Trump at this point</quote> the GOP universally backed Nixon until the evidence was just too strong. as long as there's still reasonable speculation about Trumpy's guilt they'll continue to back him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 11/28/18 11:38:50 AM #11:	Giant_Aspirin posted... K181 posted... I think it's more of a recognition that the national GOP will never turn on Trump at this point the GOP universally backed Nixon until the evidence was just too strong. as long as there's still reasonable speculation about Trumpy's guilt they'll continue to back him. The GOP of the 1970's is an entirely different animal from the GOP of the 2010's. That GOP would've dropped Trump like a bag of bricks within a year of his presidency. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:913183706] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>K181 posted...</cite> <quote>I think it's more of a recognition that the national GOP will never turn on Trump at this point</quote> the GOP universally backed Nixon until the evidence was just too strong. as long as there's still reasonable speculation about Trumpy's guilt they'll continue to back him.</quote> The GOP of the 1970's is an entirely different animal from the GOP of the 2010's. That GOP would've dropped Trump like a bag of bricks within a year of his presidency.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 11/28/18 11:39:36 AM #12:	Giant_Aspirin posted... K181 posted... I think it's more of a recognition that the national GOP will never turn on Trump at this point the GOP universally backed Nixon until the evidence was just too strong. as long as there's still reasonable speculation about Trumpy's guilt they'll continue to back him. The GOP still had a spine of some sorts then. Evangelicals are so morally bankrupt and so deep in on the Trump train that if the GOP abandons him the evangelical wing of the party will abandon them and they can't win elections without the bible beater vote. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:913183754] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>K181 posted...</cite> <quote>I think it's more of a recognition that the national GOP will never turn on Trump at this point</quote> the GOP universally backed Nixon until the evidence was just too strong. as long as there's still reasonable speculation about Trumpy's guilt they'll continue to back him.</quote> The GOP still had a spine of some sorts then. Evangelicals are so morally bankrupt and so deep in on the Trump train that if the GOP abandons him the evangelical wing of the party will abandon them and they can't win elections without the bible beater vote.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ickeryy 11/28/18 12:04:00 PM #13:	What are the chances that Trump is entirely truthful and Manafort's lies were an attempt to throw Trump under the bus? --- Won't change sig until Hamtaro gets rebooted - October 8, 2015 <cite>Ickeryy posted [p:913184923] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote>What are the chances that Trump is entirely truthful and Manafort's lies were an attempt to throw Trump under the bus?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 11/28/18 12:04:50 PM #14:	Ickeryy posted... What are the chances that Trump is entirely truthful and Manafort's lies were an attempt to throw Trump under the bus? There is a 0% chance that Trump is truthful about anything --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:913184969] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ickeryy posted...</cite> <quote>What are the chances that Trump is entirely truthful and Manafort's lies were an attempt to throw Trump under the bus?</quote> There is a 0% chance that Trump is truthful about anything</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 11/28/18 12:30:00 PM #15:	Is this a nothing hamburger or a something salad? --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:913186273] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote>Is this a nothing hamburger or a something salad?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 11/28/18 12:30:34 PM #16:	Ickeryy posted... What are the chances that Trump is entirely truthful and Manafort's lies were an attempt to throw Trump under the bus? -9007% --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:913186300] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ickeryy posted...</cite> <quote>What are the chances that Trump is entirely truthful and Manafort's lies were an attempt to throw Trump under the bus?</quote> -9007%</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 11/28/18 1:31:03 PM #17:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Is this a nothing hamburger or a something salad? yes --- Playing: God of War, Octopath Traveler, Soul Calibur VI *(~);} - I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up - {;(~)* <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:913189504] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote>Is this a nothing hamburger or a something salad?</quote> yes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 11/28/18 1:33:03 PM #18:	Giant_Aspirin posted... ssj3vegeta_ posted... Nothing will happen not with attitudes like that it wont. I mean, it doesn't matter about attitudes, it matters about the GOP having morals and ethics and holding their own to even the basest of standards.... so yeah.... nothing will happen. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:913189617] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ssj3vegeta_ posted...</cite> <quote>Nothing will happen</quote> not with attitudes like that it wont.</quote> I mean, it doesn't matter about attitudes, it matters about the GOP having morals and ethics and holding their own to even the basest of standards.... so yeah.... nothing will happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cmiller4642 11/28/18 1:35:06 PM #19:	Lock him up with Adebisi from Oz <cite>cmiller4642 posted [p:913189754] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote>Lock him up with Adebisi from Oz</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 11/28/18 1:56:48 PM #20:	Ickeryy posted... What are the chances that Trump is entirely truthful 0% --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:913190973] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ickeryy posted...</cite> <quote>What are the chances that Trump is entirely truthful </quote> 0%</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 11/28/18 2:16:28 PM #21:	Should be fun to find out --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:913192164] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote>Should be fun to find out</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 11/28/18 5:42:00 PM #22:	https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/418711-trump-told-mueller-he-was-unaware-of-trump-tower-meeting-didnt-hear This further increases the odds of Marcy Wheeler's theory, which I elaborated here, that Mueller delayed Manafort's status update until after Trump submitted his Take Home Test because he was pretending not to know that Manafort was lying and had a hunch that he was giving Trump the confidence to tell those same lies. Mueller will now soon be filing a sentencing report describing the documentary evidence proving the lies that caused him to terminate Manafort's plea deal. It is probable that this will include documentary proof of lies related to the Trump Tower Meeting including, one suspects, proof that Donald Trump lied about his advance knowledge of that meeting. Buckle up. taken from https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/a18sku/trump_told_mueller_he_was_unaware_of_trump_tower/eanpo68 --- Playing: God of War, Octopath Traveler, Soul Calibur VI *(~);} - I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up - {;(~)* <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:913203474] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote>https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/418711-trump-told-mueller-he-was-unaware-of-trump-tower-meeting-didnt-hear This further increases the odds of Marcy Wheeler's theory, which I elaborated here, that Mueller delayed Manafort's status update until after Trump submitted his Take Home Test because he was pretending not to know that Manafort was lying and had a hunch that he was giving Trump the confidence to tell those same lies. Mueller will now soon be filing a sentencing report describing the documentary evidence proving the lies that caused him to terminate Manafort's plea deal. It is probable that this will include documentary proof of lies related to the Trump Tower Meeting including, one suspects, proof that Donald Trump lied about his advance knowledge of that meeting. Buckle up. taken from https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/a18sku/trump_told_mueller_he_was_unaware_of_trump_tower/eanpo68</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 11/28/18 5:44:54 PM #23:	This gon b good --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:913203651] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote>This gon b good</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 11/28/18 5:45:33 PM #24:	Mueller literally baited Trump into committing perjury and Trump fell for it. hook line and sinker. --- Playing: God of War, Octopath Traveler, Soul Calibur VI *(~);} - I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up - {;(~)* <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:913203693] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote>Mueller literally baited Trump into committing perjury and Trump fell for it. hook line and sinker.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DanAnsumHandsom 11/28/18 5:47:44 PM #25:	Keep thinking that --- Let me show you my Gamefaqs. <cite>DanAnsumHandsom posted [p:913203819] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote>Keep thinking that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 11/28/18 5:49:08 PM #26:	DanAnsumHandsom posted... Keep thinking that Just a matter of time before we all find out for sure --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:913203907] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote><cite>DanAnsumHandsom posted...</cite> <quote>Keep thinking that</quote> Just a matter of time before we all find out for sure</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 11/28/18 5:50:49 PM #27:	I think that would constitute entrapment. --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:913204016] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote>I think that would constitute entrapment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 11/28/18 6:23:07 PM #28:	P4wn4g3 posted... I think that would constitute entrapment. Youd be wrong --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:913205840] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote><cite>P4wn4g3 posted...</cite> <quote>I think that would constitute entrapment.</quote> Youd be wrong</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 11/28/18 6:25:52 PM #29:	King_Hellebuyck posted... P4wn4g3 posted... I think that would constitute entrapment. Youd be wrong How --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:913205986] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>P4wn4g3 posted...</cite> <quote>I think that would constitute entrapment.</quote> Youd be wrong</quote> How</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 11/28/18 6:26:14 PM #30:	P4wn4g3 posted... I think that would constitute entrapment. Entrapment involves the person being put under duress. This isn't a case of that. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:913206013] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote><cite>P4wn4g3 posted...</cite> <quote>I think that would constitute entrapment.</quote> Entrapment involves the person being put under duress. This isn't a case of that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
butthole666 11/28/18 6:26:40 PM #31:	lmfao --- "Kenan & Kel is what made me realize I wasn't racist." ~ NewportBox100s <cite>butthole666 posted [p:913206036] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote>lmfao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 11/28/18 6:28:44 PM #32:	P4wn4g3 posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... P4wn4g3 posted... I think that would constitute entrapment. Youd be wrong How --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:913206163] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote><cite>P4wn4g3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>P4wn4g3 posted...</cite> <quote>I think that would constitute entrapment.</quote> Youd be wrong</quote> How</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 11/28/18 6:29:56 PM #33:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... P4wn4g3 posted... I think that would constitute entrapment. Entrapment involves the person being put under duress. This isn't a case of that. Ah. --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:913206243] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>P4wn4g3 posted...</cite> <quote>I think that would constitute entrapment.</quote> Entrapment involves the person being put under duress. This isn't a case of that.</quote> Ah.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkTransient 11/28/18 6:30:04 PM #34:	P4wn4g3 posted... I think that would constitute entrapment. No, it wouldn't. As long as they aren't pressuring / bribing / etc someone into committing the illegal act, it isn't entrapment. Simply providing an opportunity doesn't qualify. --- https://imgtc.com/i/0mboxsZ.png <-- Tiamat is best babe, if you disagree you're objectively wrong. https://tinyurl.com/dtlamulana2 <-- La-Mulana 2 LP <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:913206250] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote><cite>P4wn4g3 posted...</cite> <quote>I think that would constitute entrapment.</quote> No, it wouldn't. As long as they aren't pressuring / bribing / etc someone into committing the illegal act, it isn't entrapment. Simply providing an opportunity doesn't qualify.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DanAnsumHandsom 11/28/18 6:32:16 PM #35:	liberals jumping the gun once again --- Let me show you my Gamefaqs. <cite>DanAnsumHandsom posted [p:913206395] in Did Muelle... [t:77247904]...</cite> <quote>liberals jumping the gun once again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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