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refmon 11/14/18 5:43:04 PM #1:	https://news.avclub.com/george-r-r-martin-admits-hes-struggling-with-the-win-1830382987 Maybe stop wasting your time with tweets my man --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:912409226] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote>https://news.avclub.com/george-r-r-martin-admits-hes-struggling-with-the-win-1830382987 Maybe stop wasting your time with tweets my man</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlephZero 11/14/18 5:44:12 PM #2:	it's never going to come out --- "life is overrated" - Seiichi Omori 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 <cite>AlephZero posted [p:912409284] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote>it's never going to come out</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AngelsNAirwav3s 11/14/18 5:44:57 PM #3:	Dang, well it has already taken longer for Winds than it did for Dragons --- Hello world! <cite>AngelsNAirwav3s posted [p:912409326] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote>Dang, well it has already taken longer for Winds than it did for Dragons</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 11/14/18 5:45:07 PM #4:	Whatever. I'm more attached to the show anyway <cite>Zikten posted [p:912409338] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote>Whatever. I'm more attached to the show anyway</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 11/14/18 5:45:43 PM #5:	Also isn't there supposed another one after this one? Lol poor book fans <cite>Zikten posted [p:912409366] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote>Also isn't there supposed another one after this one? Lol poor book fans</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AngelsNAirwav3s 11/14/18 5:48:13 PM #6:	Zikten posted... Whatever. I'm more attached to the show anyway The show sucks ass now --- Hello world! <cite>AngelsNAirwav3s posted [p:912409492] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>Whatever. I'm more attached to the show anyway</quote> The show sucks ass now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
electricbugs2 11/14/18 5:50:47 PM #7:	Fantasy fans are used to authors who pump out a new book every year. Brooks, Jordan, Rothfuss, Jaques etc. That said, he should probably spend lest time Tweeting, it's obviously annoying people. --- Is sticking your tongue on a 9-volt battery a masculine gesture?-Questionmarktarius <cite>electricbugs2 posted [p:912409642] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote>Fantasy fans are used to authors who pump out a new book every year. Brooks, Jordan, Rothfuss, Jaques etc. That said, he should probably spend lest time Tweeting, it's obviously annoying people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 11/14/18 5:51:23 PM #8:	nobody cares anymore --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson Don't be a turd. - Chris Pratt <cite>HylianFox posted [p:912409679] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote>nobody cares anymore</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 11/14/18 5:52:29 PM #9:	I stopped caring like 4 years ago --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:912409723] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote>I stopped caring like 4 years ago</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 11/14/18 5:53:40 PM #10:	https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1062107801949032449 --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:912409780] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1062107801949032449</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 11/14/18 5:53:44 PM #11:	it's not so much the tweets as it is the fact that he travels all the fucking time for conventions and garbage TV shows, and refuses to write while away from home, and when he IS home he writes other shit that most people don't care about like wild cards and history books for asoiaf --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:912409784] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote>it's not so much the tweets as it is the fact that he travels all the fucking time for conventions and garbage TV shows, and refuses to write while away from home, and when he IS home he writes other shit that most people don't care about like wild cards and history books for asoiaf</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crazyman93 11/14/18 5:54:09 PM #12:	REally? He's struggling? I would never have guessed. This is a complete shock to me. I can't believe it. --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks <cite>Crazyman93 posted [p:912409810] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote>REally? He's struggling? I would never have guessed. This is a complete shock to me. I can't believe it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 11/15/18 1:32:41 PM #13:	DarthAragorn posted... it's not so much the tweets as it is the fact that he travels all the fucking time for conventions and garbage TV shows, and refuses to write while away from home, and when he IS home he writes other shit that most people don't care about like wild cards and history books for asoiaf It's his life dude, he can do whatever the fuck he wants --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:912454506] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote>it's not so much the tweets as it is the fact that he travels all the fucking time for conventions and garbage TV shows, and refuses to write while away from home, and when he IS home he writes other shit that most people don't care about like wild cards and history books for asoiaf</quote> It's his life dude, he can do whatever the fuck he wants</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Awesome 11/15/18 1:35:59 PM #14:	theres a theory out there that he stole someones work and doesnt know how to continue it. --- https://imgur.com/gWCYPlD https://imgur.com/J9kjYjA https://imgur.com/Ls3OgWR <cite>Awesome posted [p:912454675] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote>theres a theory out there that he stole someones work and doesnt know how to continue it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 11/15/18 1:39:53 PM #15:	rip --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:912454869] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote>rip</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 11/15/18 1:41:39 PM #16:	I remember back when "worst-case" predictions put the book at a 2016-2017 release. Really, it's been long enough now that I've just completely divested myself of the books. The show is the official canon now, and that's not something I thought I'd be saying five years ago. --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:912454959] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote>I remember back when "worst-case" predictions put the book at a 2016-2017 release. Really, it's been long enough now that I've just completely divested myself of the books. The show is the official canon now, and that's not something I thought I'd be saying five years ago.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Allanon23 11/15/18 1:42:32 PM #17:	electricbugs2 posted... Fantasy fans are used to authors who pump out a new book every year. Brooks, Jordan, Rothfuss, Jaques etc. Rothfuss does not pump out a new book every year lol. Most of his time now is devoted to his charity and going to every convention in the continental U.S. Sanderson would have been a much better fit. --- Attention campers, lunch has been cancelled today due to lack of hustle. Deal with it. Current LP: Dragon Quest XI <cite>Allanon23 posted [p:912455012] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote><cite>electricbugs2 posted...</cite> <quote>Fantasy fans are used to authors who pump out a new book every year. Brooks, Jordan, Rothfuss, Jaques etc.</quote> Rothfuss does not pump out a new book every year lol. Most of his time now is devoted to his charity and going to every convention in the continental U.S. Sanderson would have been a much better fit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 11/15/18 1:43:34 PM #18:	Every time Martin is in the news it's just for a "Im still not finished" update. Why is this news? This is the status quo. --- Since I'm not popular, I'll post on GameFAQs. <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:912455064] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote>Every time Martin is in the news it's just for a "Im still not finished" update. Why is this news? This is the status quo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 11/15/18 1:44:08 PM #19:	Awesome posted... theres a theory out there that he stole someones work and doesnt know how to continue it. interesting theory <cite>Zikten posted [p:912455101] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote><cite>Awesome posted...</cite> <quote>theres a theory out there that he stole someones work and doesnt know how to continue it.</quote> interesting theory</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlephZero 11/15/18 1:46:58 PM #21:	Allanon23 posted... electricbugs2 posted... Fantasy fans are used to authors who pump out a new book every year. Brooks, Jordan, Rothfuss, Jaques etc. Rothfuss does not pump out a new book every year lol. Most of his time now is devoted to his charity and going to every convention in the continental U.S. Sanderson would have been a much better fit. Rothfuss is like an angrier gurm. The third Kingkiller book is another one that will never come out. --- "life is overrated" - Seiichi Omori 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 <cite>AlephZero posted [p:912455241] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote><cite>Allanon23 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>electricbugs2 posted...</cite> <quote>Fantasy fans are used to authors who pump out a new book every year. Brooks, Jordan, Rothfuss, Jaques etc.</quote> Rothfuss does not pump out a new book every year lol. Most of his time now is devoted to his charity and going to every convention in the continental U.S. Sanderson would have been a much better fit.</quote> Rothfuss is like an angrier gurm. The third Kingkiller book is another one that will never come out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
X-Pac_Heat 11/15/18 1:56:26 PM #22:	--- https://i.imgtc.com/A1yWxZr.jpg <cite>X-Pac_Heat posted [p:912455730] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Youngster_Joey_ 11/15/18 1:59:05 PM #23:	Awesome posted... theres a theory out there that he stole someones work and doesnt know how to continue it. I see so many theories The theory that HBO made a backroom deal for him to hold off on releasing new books until the show was over The theory that he got so worried at how fans hated the things revealed through the show that he's gone back and completely re-wrote portions of the book The theory that he is going to release Winds and Spring at the same time. I think he's just reached a point where it's a slog to write myself. <cite>Youngster_Joey_ posted [p:912455859] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote><cite>Awesome posted...</cite> <quote>theres a theory out there that he stole someones work and doesnt know how to continue it.</quote> I see so many theories The theory that HBO made a backroom deal for him to hold off on releasing new books until the show was over The theory that he got so worried at how fans hated the things revealed through the show that he's gone back and completely re-wrote portions of the book The theory that he is going to release Winds and Spring at the same time. I think he's just reached a point where it's a slog to write myself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 11/15/18 2:01:04 PM #24:	Awesome posted... theres a theory out there that he stole someones work and doesnt know how to continue it. Doubtful. A more likely scenario is that since all of ASOIAF is based on a GURPS thing he played, they stopped playing somewhere in the middle of "Winds of Winter" because of a total party kill and he doesn't know what to do. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:912455963] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote><cite>Awesome posted...</cite> <quote>theres a theory out there that he stole someones work and doesnt know how to continue it.</quote> Doubtful. A more likely scenario is that since all of ASOIAF is based on a GURPS thing he played, they stopped playing somewhere in the middle of "Winds of Winter" because of a total party kill and he doesn't know what to do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Youngster_Joey_ 11/15/18 2:03:44 PM #25:	Tyranthraxus posted... A more likely scenario is that since all of ASOIAF is based on a GURPS thing he played, they stopped playing somewhere in the middle of "Winds of Winter" because of a total party kill and he doesn't know what to do. Holy Shit this is the first I've heard this one. Didn't he take a long time with Dance too, though? <cite>Youngster_Joey_ posted [p:912456079] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>A more likely scenario is that since all of ASOIAF is based on a GURPS thing he played, they stopped playing somewhere in the middle of "Winds of Winter" because of a total party kill and he doesn't know what to do.</quote> Holy Shit this is the first I've heard this one. Didn't he take a long time with Dance too, though?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 11/15/18 2:05:03 PM #26:	Youngster_Joey_ posted... I think he's just reached a point where it's a slog to write myself. same he's old he doesnt seem to care about legacy ergo hes prob just gonna do whatever he is comfortable with which may mean never completing his story --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:912456170] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote><cite>Youngster_Joey_ posted...</cite> <quote>I think he's just reached a point where it's a slog to write myself. </quote> same he's old he doesnt seem to care about legacy ergo hes prob just gonna do whatever he is comfortable with which may mean never completing his story</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 11/15/18 2:05:58 PM #27:	Youngster_Joey_ posted... Tyranthraxus posted... A more likely scenario is that since all of ASOIAF is based on a GURPS thing he played, they stopped playing somewhere in the middle of "Winds of Winter" because of a total party kill and he doesn't know what to do. Holy Shit this is the first I've heard this one. Didn't he take a long time with Dance too, though? He took longer than normal but every book has a span of years between the next publication. He's been doing this for a long time. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:912456227] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote><cite>Youngster_Joey_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>A more likely scenario is that since all of ASOIAF is based on a GURPS thing he played, they stopped playing somewhere in the middle of "Winds of Winter" because of a total party kill and he doesn't know what to do.</quote> Holy Shit this is the first I've heard this one. Didn't he take a long time with Dance too, though?</quote> He took longer than normal but every book has a span of years between the next publication. He's been doing this for a long time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlecSkorpio 11/15/18 2:07:34 PM #28:	Youngster_Joey_ posted... I think he's just reached a point where it's a slog to write myself. I gotta believe it's this. In a more embarrassing time in my life, I wrote fanfiction. I reached a point where I thought it wasn't good enough to publish, and then I got sick of trying to make it "good enough" even though I had a few vocal people who kept asking me when I would finish it. I mean, if that's how I felt for one stupid story as a teenager how the hell must he feel at this point with his epic? Especially since it isn't like he's relying on it to make a living at this point. --- https://i.imgtc.com/YzJ2Ybl.jpg <cite>AlecSkorpio posted [p:912456315] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote><cite>Youngster_Joey_ posted...</cite> <quote>I think he's just reached a point where it's a slog to write myself.</quote> I gotta believe it's this. In a more embarrassing time in my life, I wrote fanfiction. I reached a point where I thought it wasn't good enough to publish, and then I got sick of trying to make it "good enough" even though I had a few vocal people who kept asking me when I would finish it. I mean, if that's how I felt for one stupid story as a teenager how the hell must he feel at this point with his epic? Especially since it isn't like he's relying on it to make a living at this point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 11/15/18 2:07:37 PM #29:	Darkman124 posted... he doesnt seem to care about legacy That's not true. In his LWAT all his notes and unpublished manuscripts are to be burned and no one from his estate or otherwise will be allowed to finish the story. He's more concerned with integrity than just writing shit to shut people up, though. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:912456321] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>he doesnt seem to care about legacy</quote> That's not true. In his LWAT all his notes and unpublished manuscripts are to be burned and no one from his estate or otherwise will be allowed to finish the story. He's more concerned with integrity than just writing shit to shut people up, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlephZero 11/15/18 2:08:16 PM #30:	The first book in The Expanse series was released a month before Dance With Dragons. That entire series, nine books total, will almost certainly finish before Winds of Winter comes out. --- "life is overrated" - Seiichi Omori 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 <cite>AlephZero posted [p:912456358] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote>The first book in The Expanse series was released a month before Dance With Dragons. That entire series, nine books total, will almost certainly finish before Winds of Winter comes out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC 11/15/18 2:12:29 PM #31:	Tyranthraxus posted... Darkman124 posted... he doesnt seem to care about legacy That's not true. In his LWAT all his notes and unpublished manuscripts are to be burned and no one from his estate or otherwise will be allowed to finish the story. He's more concerned with integrity than just writing shit to shut people up, though. Yeah. He's gonna write the story he wants to write, and he's not going to put it out until it's finished to his satisfaction, if ever. Even if it pisses me off a little, I have to respect him for that. --- "I'm not sure how much simpler to put it: For more money than the next ten countries on the list combined I expect a goddamn Gundam." -- Voidgolem <cite>DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted [p:912456596] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>he doesnt seem to care about legacy</quote> That's not true. In his LWAT all his notes and unpublished manuscripts are to be burned and no one from his estate or otherwise will be allowed to finish the story. He's more concerned with integrity than just writing shit to shut people up, though.</quote> Yeah. He's gonna write the story he wants to write, and he's not going to put it out until it's finished to his satisfaction, if ever. Even if it pisses me off a little, I have to respect him for that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 11/15/18 2:13:50 PM #32:	DarthAragorn posted... when he IS home he writes other shit that most people don't care about like wild cards The last Wild Cards book he wrote for was "Inside Straight" which was released over ten years ago, the last one before that was "Black Trump" which was released over 20 years ago. He edits the others. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:912456669] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote>when he IS home he writes other shit that most people don't care about like wild cards</quote> The last Wild Cards book he wrote for was "Inside Straight" which was released over ten years ago, the last one before that was "Black Trump" which was released over 20 years ago. He edits the others.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 11/15/18 3:34:01 PM #33:	JE19426 posted... DarthAragorn posted... when he IS home he writes other shit that most people don't care about like wild cards The last Wild Cards book he wrote for was "Inside Straight" which was released over ten years ago, the last one before that was "Black Trump" which was released over 20 years ago. He edits the others. whatever dog he still wastes time on that shit --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:912461100] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote>when he IS home he writes other shit that most people don't care about like wild cards</quote> The last Wild Cards book he wrote for was "Inside Straight" which was released over ten years ago, the last one before that was "Black Trump" which was released over 20 years ago. He edits the others.</quote> whatever dog he still wastes time on that shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 11/15/18 3:36:31 PM #34:	It's never going to happen. Even if you discount all the rumors about the source of the stories, he gave his original outline to HBO and they're finishing his original script. He's probably not even really motivated anymore to finish a story already told, and changing things just to be different isn't great either. He's just an old guy who doesn't give a shit now. Forget the books exist and move on. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:912461231] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote>It's never going to happen. Even if you discount all the rumors about the source of the stories, he gave his original outline to HBO and they're finishing his original script. He's probably not even really motivated anymore to finish a story already told, and changing things just to be different isn't great either. He's just an old guy who doesn't give a shit now. Forget the books exist and move on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sunhawk 11/15/18 3:43:22 PM #35:	I can't believe it. It's been, what, 7 years since Dragons came out? I've only read half of the first book, I don't care much, but I feel so sorry for the fans. Especially with the TV series overtaking the books. That's the kind of thing that would make me really angry. Besides, he's just a fantasy writer. I'm sure he (and his rabid fans) think each and every book is a masterpiece, but I doubt they are. How can fantasy take 7 years to write? Knowing fantasy, I doubt very much he's focusing on the prose. I expect the 7th book will get finished at some point and released, but he'll die shortly after. The fans will still be annoyed, though, since he spent so much time writing and releasing them. I don't know how long it took Tolkien to write LotR, but I doubt it was as long as had already passed with ASOIAF, and there are still 2 books left to release. --- It has been 0 days since something interesting happened. Thrill me, chill me, fulfil me. <cite>Sunhawk posted [p:912461593] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote>I can't believe it. It's been, what, 7 years since Dragons came out? I've only read half of the first book, I don't care much, but I feel so sorry for the fans. Especially with the TV series overtaking the books. That's the kind of thing that would make me really angry. Besides, he's just a fantasy writer. I'm sure he (and his rabid fans) think each and every book is a masterpiece, but I doubt they are. How can fantasy take 7 years to write? Knowing fantasy, I doubt very much he's focusing on the prose. I expect the 7th book will get finished at some point and released, but he'll die shortly after. The fans will still be annoyed, though, since he spent so much time writing and releasing them. I don't know how long it took Tolkien to write LotR, but I doubt it was as long as had already passed with ASOIAF, and there are still 2 books left to release. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 11/15/18 3:47:42 PM #36:	electricbugs2 posted... Fantasy fans are used to authors who pump out a new book every year. Brooks, Jordan, Rothfuss, Jaques etc. That said, he should probably spend lest time Tweeting, it's obviously annoying people. Uhhh Jordan and Rothfuss are definitely not in the one a year camp.... <cite>OctilIery posted [p:912461810] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote><cite>electricbugs2 posted...</cite> <quote>Fantasy fans are used to authors who pump out a new book every year. Brooks, Jordan, Rothfuss, Jaques etc. That said, he should probably spend lest time Tweeting, it's obviously annoying people.</quote> Uhhh Jordan and Rothfuss are definitely not in the one a year camp....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 11/15/18 3:49:04 PM #37:	Sunhawk posted... I can't believe it. It's been, what, 7 years since Dragons came out? I've only read half of the first book, I don't care much, but I feel so sorry for the fans. Especially with the TV series overtaking the books. That's the kind of thing that would make me really angry. Besides, he's just a fantasy writer. I'm sure he (and his rabid fans) think each and every book is a masterpiece, but I doubt they are. How can fantasy take 7 years to write? Knowing fantasy, I doubt very much he's focusing on the prose. I expect the 7th book will get finished at some point and released, but he'll die shortly after. The fans will still be annoyed, though, since he spent so much time writing and releasing them. I don't know how long it took Tolkien to write LotR, but I doubt it was as long as had already passed with ASOIAF, and there are still 2 books left to release. 7 years back in July it'll easily pass 8 years and probably be closer to 10 by the time it's published there's no chance he finishes a 7th book before he croaks --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:912461900] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sunhawk posted...</cite> <quote>I can't believe it. It's been, what, 7 years since Dragons came out? I've only read half of the first book, I don't care much, but I feel so sorry for the fans. Especially with the TV series overtaking the books. That's the kind of thing that would make me really angry. Besides, he's just a fantasy writer. I'm sure he (and his rabid fans) think each and every book is a masterpiece, but I doubt they are. How can fantasy take 7 years to write? Knowing fantasy, I doubt very much he's focusing on the prose. I expect the 7th book will get finished at some point and released, but he'll die shortly after. The fans will still be annoyed, though, since he spent so much time writing and releasing them. I don't know how long it took Tolkien to write LotR, but I doubt it was as long as had already passed with ASOIAF, and there are still 2 books left to release. </quote> 7 years back in July it'll easily pass 8 years and probably be closer to 10 by the time it's published there's no chance he finishes a 7th book before he croaks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
White Eagle 11/15/18 3:51:23 PM #38:	His ancient computer crashed, and he lost it. He's been rewriting it but is second guessing himself on details. --- Detroit Red Wings http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusnhlexperts/108545331.jpg <cite>White Eagle posted [p:912462024] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote>His ancient computer crashed, and he lost it. He's been rewriting it but is second guessing himself on details.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 11/15/18 3:51:32 PM #39:	DarthAragorn posted... JE19426 posted... DarthAragorn posted... when he IS home he writes other shit that most people don't care about like wild cards The last Wild Cards book he wrote for was "Inside Straight" which was released over ten years ago, the last one before that was "Black Trump" which was released over 20 years ago. He edits the others. whatever dog he still wastes time on that shit Hardly a waste when it's a great series. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:912462032] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote>when he IS home he writes other shit that most people don't care about like wild cards</quote> The last Wild Cards book he wrote for was "Inside Straight" which was released over ten years ago, the last one before that was "Black Trump" which was released over 20 years ago. He edits the others.</quote> whatever dog he still wastes time on that shit</quote> Hardly a waste when it's a great series.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadSite 11/15/18 3:52:58 PM #40:	He's waited too long that his fans have already written better endings to his work and now he can't out write them so he's stuck. Not surprised --- https://i.imgtc.com/nHiYjIf.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/wZuUZZj.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/FWbvfL3.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/EeUncGa.png <cite>DeadSite posted [p:912462108] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote>He's waited too long that his fans have already written better endings to his work and now he can't out write them so he's stuck. Not surprised</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 11/15/18 3:53:45 PM #41:	DeadSite posted... He's waited too long that his fans have already written better endings to his work and now he can't out write them so he's stuck. Not surprised yeah honestly i'm pretty sure there's got to be a passable Winds of Winter and Dream of Spring on fanfiction.net at this point --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:912462153] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote><cite>DeadSite posted...</cite> <quote>He's waited too long that his fans have already written better endings to his work and now he can't out write them so he's stuck. Not surprised</quote> yeah honestly i'm pretty sure there's got to be a passable Winds of Winter and Dream of Spring on fanfiction.net at this point</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Swagnificent119 11/15/18 3:54:12 PM #42:	First book came out in 96 Second in 98 Thrid in 2000 Then there was a five year gap for the fourth A six year gap for the fifth So I'm not going to worry until next year tbqh. --- https://imgur.com/VQfjsWf <cite>Swagnificent119 posted [p:912462178] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote>First book came out in 96 Second in 98 Thrid in 2000 Then there was a five year gap for the fourth A six year gap for the fifth So I'm not going to worry until next year tbqh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadSite 11/15/18 4:30:27 PM #43:	DarthAragorn posted... DeadSite posted... He's waited too long that his fans have already written better endings to his work and now he can't out write them so he's stuck. Not surprised yeah honestly i'm pretty sure there's got to be a passable Winds of Winter and Dream of Spring on fanfiction.net at this point GRRM's work existed better when there were less eyes on it tbh. It's essentially suffering from the Westworld effect where so many people can get together and discuss even the smallest details and pull foreshadowing from it. --- https://i.imgtc.com/nHiYjIf.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/wZuUZZj.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/FWbvfL3.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/EeUncGa.png <cite>DeadSite posted [p:912464136] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DeadSite posted...</cite> <quote>He's waited too long that his fans have already written better endings to his work and now he can't out write them so he's stuck. Not surprised</quote> yeah honestly i'm pretty sure there's got to be a passable Winds of Winter and Dream of Spring on fanfiction.net at this point</quote> GRRM's work existed better when there were less eyes on it tbh. It's essentially suffering from the Westworld effect where so many people can get together and discuss even the smallest details and pull foreshadowing from it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
theAteam 11/15/18 4:42:33 PM #44:	I think he's already finished and is just waiting to release it with the show. --- Buffalo Bills 2018-19 Season Prediction: 5-11 Season Record: 3-7 Next Up: vs. Jacksonville Jaguars (11/25) <cite>theAteam posted [p:912464758] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote>I think he's already finished and is just waiting to release it with the show.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 11/15/18 4:54:22 PM #45:	DeadSite posted... DarthAragorn posted... DeadSite posted... He's waited too long that his fans have already written better endings to his work and now he can't out write them so he's stuck. Not surprised yeah honestly i'm pretty sure there's got to be a passable Winds of Winter and Dream of Spring on fanfiction.net at this point GRRM's work existed better when there were less eyes on it tbh. It's essentially suffering from the Westworld effect where so many people can get together and discuss even the smallest details and pull foreshadowing from it. ASoIaF was pretty much always like that. R+L=J has been a thing since the first book. --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:912465413] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote><cite>DeadSite posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>DeadSite posted...</cite> <quote> He's waited too long that his fans have already written better endings to his work and now he can't out write them so he's stuck. Not surprised </quote> yeah honestly i'm pretty sure there's got to be a passable Winds of Winter and Dream of Spring on fanfiction.net at this point</quote> GRRM's work existed better when there were less eyes on it tbh. It's essentially suffering from the Westworld effect where so many people can get together and discuss even the smallest details and pull foreshadowing from it.</quote> ASoIaF was pretty much always like that. R+L=J has been a thing since the first book.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadSite 11/15/18 4:55:13 PM #46:	UnholyMudcrab posted... DeadSite posted... DarthAragorn posted... DeadSite posted... He's waited too long that his fans have already written better endings to his work and now he can't out write them so he's stuck. Not surprised yeah honestly i'm pretty sure there's got to be a passable Winds of Winter and Dream of Spring on fanfiction.net at this point GRRM's work existed better when there were less eyes on it tbh. It's essentially suffering from the Westworld effect where so many people can get together and discuss even the smallest details and pull foreshadowing from it. ASoIaF was pretty much always like that. R+L=J has been a thing since the first book. It has but even smaller theories have been exploded to the extreme. --- https://i.imgtc.com/nHiYjIf.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/wZuUZZj.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/FWbvfL3.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/EeUncGa.png <cite>DeadSite posted [p:912465478] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DeadSite posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>DeadSite posted...</cite> <quote> He's waited too long that his fans have already written better endings to his work and now he can't out write them so he's stuck. Not surprised </quote> yeah honestly i'm pretty sure there's got to be a passable Winds of Winter and Dream of Spring on fanfiction.net at this point</quote> GRRM's work existed better when there were less eyes on it tbh. It's essentially suffering from the Westworld effect where so many people can get together and discuss even the smallest details and pull foreshadowing from it.</quote> ASoIaF was pretty much always like that. R+L=J has been a thing since the first book.</quote> It has but even smaller theories have been exploded to the extreme.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 11/15/18 5:04:37 PM #47:	That clip of him asking Stephen King how he manages to write so much and is just baffled is pretty great, but also very telling of the mentality he has to writing. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:912466037] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote>That clip of him asking Stephen King how he manages to write so much and is just baffled is pretty great, but also very telling of the mentality he has to writing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC 11/15/18 5:05:31 PM #48:	theAteam posted... I think he's already finished and is just waiting to release it with the show. That would be some funny shit. --- "I'm not sure how much simpler to put it: For more money than the next ten countries on the list combined I expect a goddamn Gundam." -- Voidgolem <cite>DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted [p:912466087] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote><cite>theAteam posted...</cite> <quote>I think he's already finished and is just waiting to release it with the show.</quote> That would be some funny shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 11/15/18 5:11:06 PM #49:	theAteam posted... I think he's already finished and is just waiting to release it with the show. It would've been announced by now if that were the case <cite>OctilIery posted [p:912466411] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote><cite>theAteam posted...</cite> <quote>I think he's already finished and is just waiting to release it with the show.</quote> It would've been announced by now if that were the case</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 11/15/18 5:29:56 PM #50:	Sunhawk posted... I can't believe it. It's been, what, 7 years since Dragons came out? I've only read half of the first book, I don't care much, but I feel so sorry for the fans. Especially with the TV series overtaking the books. That's the kind of thing that would make me really angry. Besides, he's just a fantasy writer. I'm sure he (and his rabid fans) think each and every book is a masterpiece, but I doubt they are. How can fantasy take 7 years to write? Knowing fantasy, I doubt very much he's focusing on the prose. I expect the 7th book will get finished at some point and released, but he'll die shortly after. The fans will still be annoyed, though, since he spent so much time writing and releasing them. I don't know how long it took Tolkien to write LotR, but I doubt it was as long as had already passed with ASOIAF, and there are still 2 books left to release. why are you of all people judging fantasy writing for its prose --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:912467496] in George R.R... [t:77202475]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sunhawk posted...</cite> <quote>I can't believe it. It's been, what, 7 years since Dragons came out? I've only read half of the first book, I don't care much, but I feel so sorry for the fans. Especially with the TV series overtaking the books. That's the kind of thing that would make me really angry. Besides, he's just a fantasy writer. I'm sure he (and his rabid fans) think each and every book is a masterpiece, but I doubt they are. How can fantasy take 7 years to write? Knowing fantasy, I doubt very much he's focusing on the prose. I expect the 7th book will get finished at some point and released, but he'll die shortly after. The fans will still be annoyed, though, since he spent so much time writing and releasing them. I don't know how long it took Tolkien to write LotR, but I doubt it was as long as had already passed with ASOIAF, and there are still 2 books left to release. </quote> why are you of all people judging fantasy writing for its prose</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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