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Kombucha 10/06/18 11:37:01 AM #1:	US Voters, are you voting for Democrats in the midterms? - Results (12 votes) Yes 83.33% (10 votes) 10 No 16.67% (2 votes) 2 I don't vote. 0% (0 votes) 0 Silicon Valley has pissed off a great number of people, particularly in 2018, so promising to grab Mark Zuckerberg by the short hairs and rein in his companys misuse of personal data seems like a pretty good way to rally the troops. Its not Facebook alone, of course, but every company trading in the intimate details of other peoples livesinformation, often deeply personal, thats amassed by faceless, profit-driven entities whose sole purpose is digitally stalking users around the internet, day after day after day. Hoping to seize upon the universal disdain the electorate feels for tech companies that abuse their privacy, the Democrats have concocted a plan to beat back the data vampiresa little incentive for those still on the fence in this November election. Theyre calling it an Internet Bill of Rights. Laid out in a New York Times column Friday, Rep. Ro Khanna, Democrat of California, has proposed a series of 10 principals that, should his party reclaim control of the House of Representatives, he hopes to pass next year in the form of law. Khannas list states foremost that users should have access to all of the information collected about them by private companies and full knowledge of how that information is being used. It further states that Americans have the right to opt-in consent with regard to the collection and sharing of their personal data. Khanna was reportedly tasked with producing the list by Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi who, depending on the midterm elections outcome, may return to her former role as Speaker of the House. In crafting the list, the congressman, whose district is home to many of Americas top tech companies, spoke to some of techs biggest brains, according to the Times, including former Obama White House CTO Nicole Wong and World Wide Web inventor Sr. Tim Berners-Lee. Apple, Facebook, Google, and other top companies were likewise consulted. Pelosi and Khanna have both reportedly expressed that Silicon Valley may not be entirely against the idea, having come to understand over the past year that the tides are turning against them. Below are the ten principals that make up Khannas draft bill of rights. Naturally, some of the terms are pretty vague: reasonable business practices and accountability, for instance. Hopefully, if the list is ever translated into legislation, the right experts will be called on to help lawmakers define what terms like reasonable really means. More reading/Source: https://gizmodo.com/democrats-drop-internet-bill-of-rights-to-entice-voters-1829559542 --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:910059128] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote> US Voters, are you voting for Democrats in the midterms? - Results (12 votes) Yes 83.33% (10 votes) 10 No 16.67% (2 votes) 2 I don't vote. 0% (0 votes) 0 <quote>Silicon Valley has pissed off a great number of people, particularly in 2018, so promising to grab Mark Zuckerberg by the short hairs and rein in his companys misuse of personal data seems like a pretty good way to rally the troops. Its not Facebook alone, of course, but every company trading in the intimate details of other peoples livesinformation, often deeply personal, thats amassed by faceless, profit-driven entities whose sole purpose is digitally stalking users around the internet, day after day after day. Hoping to seize upon the universal disdain the electorate feels for tech companies that abuse their privacy, the Democrats have concocted a plan to beat back the data vampiresa little incentive for those still on the fence in this November election. Theyre calling it an Internet Bill of Rights. Laid out in a New York Times column Friday, Rep. Ro Khanna, Democrat of California, has proposed a series of 10 principals that, should his party reclaim control of the House of Representatives, he hopes to pass next year in the form of law. Khannas list states foremost that users should have access to all of the information collected about them by private companies and full knowledge of how that information is being used. It further states that Americans have the right to opt-in consent with regard to the collection and sharing of their personal data. Khanna was reportedly tasked with producing the list by Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi who, depending on the midterm elections outcome, may return to her former role as Speaker of the House. In crafting the list, the congressman, whose district is home to many of Americas top tech companies, spoke to some of techs biggest brains, according to the Times, including former Obama White House CTO Nicole Wong and World Wide Web inventor Sr. Tim Berners-Lee. Apple, Facebook, Google, and other top companies were likewise consulted. Pelosi and Khanna have both reportedly expressed that Silicon Valley may not be entirely against the idea, having come to understand over the past year that the tides are turning against them. Below are the ten principals that make up Khannas draft bill of rights. Naturally, some of the terms are pretty vague: reasonable business practices and accountability, for instance. Hopefully, if the list is ever translated into legislation, the right experts will be called on to help lawmakers define what terms like reasonable really means.</quote> More reading/Source: https://gizmodo.com/democrats-drop-internet-bill-of-rights-to-entice-voters-1829559542</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kombucha 10/06/18 11:37:06 AM #2:	The Bill of Rights are as follows The Internet Bill of Rights: You should have the right: 1. to have access to and knowledge of all collection and uses of personal data by companies; 2. to opt-in consent to the collection of personal data by any party and to the sharing of personal data with a third party; 3. where context is appropriate and with a fair process, to obtain, correct or delete personal data controlled by any company and to have those requests honored by third parties; 4. to have personal data secured and to be notified in a timely manner when a security breach or unauthorized access of personal data is discovered; 5. to move all personal data from one network to the next; 6. to access and use the Internet without Internet service providers blocking, throttling, engaging in paid prioritization or otherwise unfairly favoring content, applications, services or devices; 7. to Internet service without the collection of data that is unnecessary for providing the requested service absent opt-in consent; 8. to have access to multiple viable, affordable Internet platforms, services and providers with clear and transparent pricing; 9. not to be unfairly discriminated against or exploited based on your personal data; and 10. to have an entity that collects your personal data have reasonable business practices and accountability to protect your privacy. --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:910059133] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote>The Bill of Rights are as follows <quote>The Internet Bill of Rights: You should have the right: 1. to have access to and knowledge of all collection and uses of personal data by companies; 2. to opt-in consent to the collection of personal data by any party and to the sharing of personal data with a third party; 3. where context is appropriate and with a fair process, to obtain, correct or delete personal data controlled by any company and to have those requests honored by third parties; 4. to have personal data secured and to be notified in a timely manner when a security breach or unauthorized access of personal data is discovered; 5. to move all personal data from one network to the next; 6. to access and use the Internet without Internet service providers blocking, throttling, engaging in paid prioritization or otherwise unfairly favoring content, applications, services or devices; 7. to Internet service without the collection of data that is unnecessary for providing the requested service absent opt-in consent; 8. to have access to multiple viable, affordable Internet platforms, services and providers with clear and transparent pricing; 9. not to be unfairly discriminated against or exploited based on your personal data; and 10. to have an entity that collects your personal data have reasonable business practices and accountability to protect your privacy.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
known2FAIL 10/06/18 11:38:02 AM #3:	Hell yea! --- I don't know why I'm playing Destiny 2... but I am... <cite>known2FAIL posted [p:910059176] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote>Hell yea!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 10/06/18 11:40:25 AM #4:	Can't wait until the final version is "you have the right to not go to a website" --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:910059274] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote>Can't wait until the final version is "you have the right to not go to a website"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HydraSlayer82 10/06/18 11:44:43 AM #5:	I like this. --- Sigless user <cite>HydraSlayer82 posted [p:910059444] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote>I like this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YookaLaylee 10/06/18 11:47:47 AM #6:	HydraSlayer82 posted... I like this. --- https://media.giphy.com/media/26gsuNHaqCPgziZYA/giphy.gif <cite>YookaLaylee posted [p:910059537] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote><cite>HydraSlayer82 posted...</cite> <quote>I like this.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 10/06/18 11:48:41 AM #7:	YookaLaylee posted... HydraSlayer82 posted... I like this. --- I'm pretty much Stu from Rugrats making pudding at 4 in morning because I've lost control of my life - Polycosm <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:910059573] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote><cite>YookaLaylee posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HydraSlayer82 posted...</cite> <quote>I like this.</quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 10/06/18 11:48:53 AM #8:	Nope wont be voting blue anytime soon --- Kavanaugh is innocent <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:910059583] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote>Nope wont be voting blue anytime soon</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HydraSlayer82 10/06/18 11:49:19 AM #9:	KingCrabCake posted... Nope wont be voting blue anytime soon We know. Youre a hack. --- Sigless user <cite>HydraSlayer82 posted [p:910059599] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Nope wont be voting blue anytime soon</quote> We know. Youre a hack.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 10/06/18 11:50:26 AM #10:	HydraSlayer82 posted... KingCrabCake posted... Nope wont be voting blue anytime soon We know. Youre a hack. No you don't know much because I'm not a hack. If anything that fits you more than me. Thanks for thinking of me buddy --- Kavanaugh is innocent <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:910059645] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote><cite>HydraSlayer82 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Nope wont be voting blue anytime soon</quote> We know. Youre a hack.</quote> No you don't know much because I'm not a hack. If anything that fits you more than me. Thanks for thinking of me buddy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 10/06/18 11:51:23 AM #11:	How cute, they think that despite republicans controlling the supreme court for the next generation they can accomplish anything on this scale. They might as well fade away into the wind, today is the death blow to democrats and November will be the stabbing of their corpse, we'll never have a non Republican country again. --- IGN: Sun FC: 0061-0132-7564 <cite>tremain07 posted [p:910059685] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote>How cute, they think that despite republicans controlling the supreme court for the next generation they can accomplish anything on this scale. They might as well fade away into the wind, today is the death blow to democrats and November will be the stabbing of their corpse, we'll never have a non Republican country again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Illuminoius 10/06/18 11:53:12 AM #12:	Kombucha posted... 6. to access and use the Internet without Internet service providers blocking, throttling, engaging in paid prioritization or otherwise unfairly favoring content, applications, services or devices; surprised nobody commented on this one <cite>Illuminoius posted [p:910059761] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kombucha posted...</cite> <quote>6. to access and use the Internet without Internet service providers blocking, throttling, engaging in paid prioritization or otherwise unfairly favoring content, applications, services or devices; </quote> surprised nobody commented on this one</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HydraSlayer82 10/06/18 11:53:49 AM #13:	KingCrabCake posted... HydraSlayer82 posted... KingCrabCake posted... Nope wont be voting blue anytime soon We know. Youre a hack. No you don't know much because I'm not a hack. If anything that fits you more than me. Thanks for thinking of me buddy Im not a democrat or a republican? --- Sigless user <cite>HydraSlayer82 posted [p:910059792] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HydraSlayer82 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Nope wont be voting blue anytime soon</quote> We know. Youre a hack.</quote> No you don't know much because I'm not a hack. If anything that fits you more than me. Thanks for thinking of me buddy</quote> Im not a democrat or a republican?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kombucha 10/06/18 11:55:42 AM #14:	HydraSlayer82 posted... I like this. Same here. I think this person that open sourced much of the web and created the first web browser will like some of the statements here too. At 63, Berners-Lee has thus far had a career more or less divided into two phases. In the first, he attended Oxford; worked at the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN); and then, in 1989, came up with the idea that eventually became the Web. Initially, Berners-Lees innovation was intended to help scientists share data across a then obscure platform called the Internet, a version of which the U.S. government had been using since the 1960s. But owing to his decision to release the source code for freeto make the Web an open and democratic platform for allhis brainchild quickly took on a life of its own. Berners-Lees life changed irrevocably, too. He would be named one of the 20th centurys most important figures by Time, receive the Turing Award (named after the famed code breaker) for achievements in the computer sciences, and be honored at the Olympics. He has been knighted by the Queen. He is the Martin Luther King of our new digital world, says Darren Walker, president of the Ford Foundation. (Berners-Lee is a former member of the foundations board of trustees.) [Regarding the his work on the platform Solid] But the vision, if it works, could radically change the existing power dynamics of the Web. The system aims to give users a platform by which they can control access to the data and content they generate on the Web. This way, users can choose how that data gets used rather than, say, Facebook and Google doing with it as they please. TLDR All of his current work is trying to correct the mess the internet has created with the current power dynamics at play. The remainder of his life is dedicated to trying to give users back some control to the content they generate. I think based on what I see here, this is definitely a step forward. --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:910059848] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote><cite>HydraSlayer82 posted...</cite> <quote>I like this.</quote> Same here. I think this person that open sourced much of the web and created the first web browser will like some of the statements here too. <quote>At 63, Berners-Lee has thus far had a career more or less divided into two phases. In the first, he attended Oxford; worked at the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN); and then, in 1989, came up with the idea that eventually became the Web. Initially, Berners-Lees innovation was intended to help scientists share data across a then obscure platform called the Internet, a version of which the U.S. government had been using since the 1960s. But owing to his decision to release the source code for freeto make the Web an open and democratic platform for allhis brainchild quickly took on a life of its own. Berners-Lees life changed irrevocably, too. He would be named one of the 20th centurys most important figures by Time, receive the Turing Award (named after the famed code breaker) for achievements in the computer sciences, and be honored at the Olympics. He has been knighted by the Queen. He is the Martin Luther King of our new digital world, says Darren Walker, president of the Ford Foundation. (Berners-Lee is a former member of the foundations board of trustees.) [Regarding the his work on the platform Solid] But the vision, if it works, could radically change the existing power dynamics of the Web. The system aims to give users a platform by which they can control access to the data and content they generate on the Web. This way, users can choose how that data gets used rather than, say, Facebook and Google doing with it as they please.</quote> TLDR All of his current work is trying to correct the mess the internet has created with the current power dynamics at play. The remainder of his life is dedicated to trying to give users back some control to the content they generate. I think based on what I see here, this is definitely a step forward.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 10/06/18 11:56:45 AM #15:	tremain07 posted... How cute, they think that despite republicans controlling the supreme court for the next generation they can accomplish anything on this scale. They might as well fade away into the wind, today is the death blow to democrats and November will be the stabbing of their corpse, we'll never have a non Republican country again. Holy hyperbole --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLH8skGXKw4 WHOOP WHOOP <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:910059891] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote><cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote>How cute, they think that despite republicans controlling the supreme court for the next generation they can accomplish anything on this scale. They might as well fade away into the wind, today is the death blow to democrats and November will be the stabbing of their corpse, we'll never have a non Republican country again.</quote> Holy hyperbole</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kombucha 10/06/18 11:56:59 AM #16:	Illuminoius posted... Kombucha posted... 6. to access and use the Internet without Internet service providers blocking, throttling, engaging in paid prioritization or otherwise unfairly favoring content, applications, services or devices; surprised nobody commented on this one Net neutrality alone makes this a good list. lol --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:910059901] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote><cite>Illuminoius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kombucha posted...</cite> <quote>6. to access and use the Internet without Internet service providers blocking, throttling, engaging in paid prioritization or otherwise unfairly favoring content, applications, services or devices; </quote> surprised nobody commented on this one</quote> Net neutrality alone makes this a good list. lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
known2FAIL 10/06/18 12:05:42 PM #17:	This can change for our internet future for the better. People should vote literally for this. It doesn't matter who came up with it. I would vote all Relublicans if they came up with this. You can fix other issues with the country by voting later. That's how important this is to me --- I don't know why I'm playing Destiny 2... but I am... <cite>known2FAIL posted [p:910060243] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote>This can change for our internet future for the better. People should vote literally for this. It doesn't matter who came up with it. I would vote all Relublicans if they came up with this. You can fix other issues with the country by voting later. That's how important this is to me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 10/06/18 12:07:42 PM #18:	HydraSlayer82 posted... KingCrabCake posted... HydraSlayer82 posted... KingCrabCake posted... Nope wont be voting blue anytime soon We know. Youre a hack. No you don't know much because I'm not a hack. If anything that fits you more than me. Thanks for thinking of me buddy Im not a democrat or a republican? Damn did I say you were? --- Kavanaugh is innocent <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:910060321] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote><cite>HydraSlayer82 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HydraSlayer82 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Nope wont be voting blue anytime soon</quote> We know. Youre a hack.</quote> No you don't know much because I'm not a hack. If anything that fits you more than me. Thanks for thinking of me buddy</quote> Im not a democrat or a republican?</quote> Damn did I say you were?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 10/06/18 12:08:34 PM #19:	known2FAIL posted... This can change for our internet future for the better. People should vote literally for this. It doesn't matter who came up with it. I would vote all Relublicans if they came up with this. You can fix other issues with the country by voting later. That's how important this is to me Sorry but the powers that be would never allow it and they make the rules, Obamaare sounded good to til they started letting corporations and republicans have their opinions on it. --- IGN: Sun FC: 0061-0132-7564 <cite>tremain07 posted [p:910060344] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote><cite>known2FAIL posted...</cite> <quote>This can change for our internet future for the better. People should vote literally for this. It doesn't matter who came up with it. I would vote all Relublicans if they came up with this. You can fix other issues with the country by voting later. That's how important this is to me</quote> Sorry but the powers that be would never allow it and they make the rules, Obamaare sounded good to til they started letting corporations and republicans have their opinions on it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HydraSlayer82 10/06/18 12:11:10 PM #20:	KingCrabCake posted... HydraSlayer82 posted... KingCrabCake posted... HydraSlayer82 posted... KingCrabCake posted... Nope wont be voting blue anytime soon We know. Youre a hack. No you don't know much because I'm not a hack. If anything that fits you more than me. Thanks for thinking of me buddy Im not a democrat or a republican? Damn did I say you were? You have no idea what a hack is, do you? Its okay to say that. --- Sigless user <cite>HydraSlayer82 posted [p:910060461] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HydraSlayer82 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HydraSlayer82 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Nope wont be voting blue anytime soon</quote> We know. Youre a hack.</quote> No you don't know much because I'm not a hack. If anything that fits you more than me. Thanks for thinking of me buddy</quote> Im not a democrat or a republican?</quote> Damn did I say you were?</quote> You have no idea what a hack is, do you? Its okay to say that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 10/06/18 12:11:24 PM #21:	Drop makes it seem like they gave up on it. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:910060469] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote>Drop makes it seem like they gave up on it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kombucha 10/06/18 12:11:48 PM #22:	tremain07 posted... known2FAIL posted... This can change for our internet future for the better. People should vote literally for this. It doesn't matter who came up with it. I would vote all Relublicans if they came up with this. You can fix other issues with the country by voting later. That's how important this is to me Sorry but the powers that be would never allow it and they make the rules, Obamaare sounded good to til they started letting corporations and republicans have their opinions on it. Everything good about this country including lgbt rights has and continues to still face powerful assholes and self concerned interests, that shouldn't change efforts to move forward or mean it's time to throw up a white flag and surrender. Absolutely a bs way to approach life man, just saying. --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:910060491] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote><cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>known2FAIL posted...</cite> <quote>This can change for our internet future for the better. People should vote literally for this. It doesn't matter who came up with it. I would vote all Relublicans if they came up with this. You can fix other issues with the country by voting later. That's how important this is to me</quote> Sorry but the powers that be would never allow it and they make the rules, Obamaare sounded good to til they started letting corporations and republicans have their opinions on it.</quote> Everything good about this country including lgbt rights has and continues to still face powerful assholes and self concerned interests, that shouldn't change efforts to move forward or mean it's time to throw up a white flag and surrender. Absolutely a bs way to approach life man, just saying.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thompson 10/06/18 12:12:36 PM #23:	Sounds like a fantastic bill. I hope it succeeds. --- Sigs are rather pointless, except if it's to showcase animation and images. <cite>Thompson posted [p:910060532] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote>Sounds like a fantastic bill. I hope it succeeds.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kombucha 10/06/18 12:12:55 PM #24:	Webmaster4531 posted... Drop makes it seem like they gave up on it. Yeah, idk what gizmodo was thinking with this title. I took the Facebook mention out of the headline as well because it seemed click-baity and might only appeal to people that care about the Facebook issues. --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:910060548] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>Drop makes it seem like they gave up on it.</quote> Yeah, idk what gizmodo was thinking with this title. I took the Facebook mention out of the headline as well because it seemed click-baity and might only appeal to people that care about the Facebook issues.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 10/06/18 12:14:39 PM #25:	Thats pretty nice, I wonder how if theyd be willing to pass it while Trump is president --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:910060606] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote>Thats pretty nice, I wonder how if theyd be willing to pass it while Trump is president</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 10/06/18 12:18:27 PM #26:	Thompson posted... Sounds like a fantastic bill. I hope it succeeds. It' not going to. King_Hellebuyck posted... Thats pretty nice, I wonder how if theyd be willing to pass it while Trump is president An absolute chance of 0 did you people forget who controls the government now, even if they do pass it the companies could easily sue, bring it up to the supreme court and they would rule in the companies favor because THEY CONTROL THE GOVERNMENT NOW --- IGN: Sun FC: 0061-0132-7564 <cite>tremain07 posted [p:910060755] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote><cite>Thompson posted...</cite> <quote>Sounds like a fantastic bill. I hope it succeeds.</quote> It' not going to. <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>Thats pretty nice, I wonder how if theyd be willing to pass it while Trump is president</quote> An absolute chance of 0 did you people forget who controls the government now, even if they do pass it the companies could easily sue, bring it up to the supreme court and they would rule in the companies favor because THEY CONTROL THE GOVERNMENT NOW</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRealDill2000 10/06/18 12:18:47 PM #27:	Overall, I like the idea, but I am opposed to #9. How can we implement a social rating/credit system with that rule in place? --- CE's source of sage-ly advice <cite>TheRealDill2000 posted [p:910060768] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote>Overall, I like the idea, but I am opposed to #9. How can we implement a social rating/credit system with that rule in place?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 10/06/18 12:19:04 PM #28:	HydraSlayer82 posted... KingCrabCake posted... HydraSlayer82 posted... KingCrabCake posted... HydraSlayer82 posted... KingCrabCake posted... Nope wont be voting blue anytime soon We know. Youre a hack. No you don't know much because I'm not a hack. If anything that fits you more than me. Thanks for thinking of me buddy Im not a democrat or a republican? Damn did I say you were? You have no idea what a hack is, do you? Its okay to say that. Obviously you dont if you called me one...its okay to say that --- Kavanaugh is innocent <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:910060781] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote><cite>HydraSlayer82 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HydraSlayer82 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HydraSlayer82 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Nope wont be voting blue anytime soon</quote> We know. Youre a hack.</quote> No you don't know much because I'm not a hack. If anything that fits you more than me. Thanks for thinking of me buddy</quote> Im not a democrat or a republican?</quote> Damn did I say you were?</quote> You have no idea what a hack is, do you? Its okay to say that.</quote> Obviously you dont if you called me one...its okay to say that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kombucha 10/06/18 12:20:32 PM #29:	King_Hellebuyck posted... Thats pretty nice, I wonder how if theyd be willing to pass it while Trump is president Will be interesting to see what they get if they take both chambers of the legislative branch. If it had any kind of chance of being signed by trump it would be as pork in a spending bill that green lights something he really wants. I imagine it will be brought repeatedly to the floor until he is unseated in 2020 otherwise. But I am no politician or legislator so idk exactly if passing a "Bill of Rights" is somehow radically different from other legislation, or what. --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:910060845] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>Thats pretty nice, I wonder how if theyd be willing to pass it while Trump is president</quote> Will be interesting to see what they get if they take both chambers of the legislative branch. If it had any kind of chance of being signed by trump it would be as pork in a spending bill that green lights something he really wants. I imagine it will be brought repeatedly to the floor until he is unseated in 2020 otherwise. But I am no politician or legislator so idk exactly if passing a "Bill of Rights" is somehow radically different from other legislation, or what.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlephZero 10/06/18 12:24:47 PM #31:	politicians promise something that has no chance of passing what else is new --- "life is overrated" - Seiichi Omori 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 <cite>AlephZero posted [p:910061047] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote>politicians promise something that has no chance of passing what else is new</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 10/06/18 1:30:30 PM #32:	HydraSlayer82 posted... KingCrabCake posted... HydraSlayer82 posted... KingCrabCake posted... Nope wont be voting blue anytime soon We know. Youre a hack. No you don't know much because I'm not a hack. If anything that fits you more than me. Thanks for thinking of me buddy Im not a democrat or a republican? independant? --- I'm pretty much Stu from Rugrats making pudding at 4 in morning because I've lost control of my life - Polycosm <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:910063911] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote><cite>HydraSlayer82 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HydraSlayer82 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Nope wont be voting blue anytime soon</quote> We know. Youre a hack.</quote> No you don't know much because I'm not a hack. If anything that fits you more than me. Thanks for thinking of me buddy</quote> Im not a democrat or a republican?</quote> independant?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TomNook20 10/06/18 1:33:47 PM #33:	Unless you want to pay for all the services you currently enjoy for free, this probably isn't the best idea. --- http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/098/7/4/tom_nook_by_themerce-d3dhi0q.png http://www.gameswagonline.com/uploads/9/0/8/9/9089979/1372277527.jpg <cite>TomNook20 posted [p:910064058] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote>Unless you want to pay for all the services you currently enjoy for free, this probably isn't the best idea.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
myzz7 10/06/18 1:35:57 PM #34:	Kombucha posted... otherwise unfairly favoring content, applications, services or devices; well, rip google, facebook, twitter, youtube..... ect. ect. --- ''If I knew how to dox people, and you lived close to me, I would beat you with a bat.'' Bad_Mojo 8/24/2018 <cite>myzz7 posted [p:910064159] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kombucha posted...</cite> <quote>otherwise unfairly favoring content, applications, services or devices;</quote> well, rip google, facebook, twitter, youtube..... ect. ect.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kombucha 10/06/18 1:38:52 PM #35:	myzz7 posted... Kombucha posted... otherwise unfairly favoring content, applications, services or devices; well, rip google, facebook, twitter, youtube..... ect. ect. This stops ISP from providing better service for one company or another and instead relegates them into acting like pipes for data that should move at the same speed. It doesn't put them out of business, it just means treating all data fairly so you won't get less throttling using DirecTV Now with an AT&T connection than you would using YouTube TV on the same AT&T connection. It actually discourages monopolistic behavior and encourages competition, free market and opportunity for the up and coming little guy services... all those things Republicans are supposed to love. --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:910064293] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote><cite>myzz7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kombucha posted...</cite> <quote>otherwise unfairly favoring content, applications, services or devices;</quote> well, rip google, facebook, twitter, youtube..... ect. ect.</quote> This stops ISP from providing better service for one company or another and instead relegates them into acting like pipes for data that should move at the same speed. It doesn't put them out of business, it just means treating all data fairly so you won't get less throttling using DirecTV Now with an AT&T connection than you would using YouTube TV on the same AT&T connection. It actually discourages monopolistic behavior and encourages competition, free market and opportunity for the up and coming little guy services... all those things Republicans are supposed to love.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/06/18 1:40:05 PM #36:	I like most of it. 4 and 9 need to be WAY more specific, but otherwise it's a really good start. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:910064353] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote>I like most of it. 4 and 9 need to be WAY more specific, but otherwise it's a really good start.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metralo 10/06/18 1:45:30 PM #37:	nope!! voting red!!! i want to pay MORE for SHITTIER and SLOWER internet!! deal with it, you stupid liherals!!! xD --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg bustin makes me feel good <cite>metralo posted [p:910064649] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote>nope!! voting red!!! i want to pay MORE for SHITTIER and SLOWER internet!! deal with it, you stupid liherals!!! xD</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HydraSlayer82 10/06/18 2:39:59 PM #39:	kingdrake2 posted... HydraSlayer82 posted... KingCrabCake posted... HydraSlayer82 posted... KingCrabCake posted... Nope wont be voting blue anytime soon We know. Youre a hack. No you don't know much because I'm not a hack. If anything that fits you more than me. Thanks for thinking of me buddy Im not a democrat or a republican? independant? Yep. --- Sigless user <cite>HydraSlayer82 posted [p:910067101] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote><cite>kingdrake2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HydraSlayer82 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HydraSlayer82 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Nope wont be voting blue anytime soon</quote> We know. Youre a hack.</quote> No you don't know much because I'm not a hack. If anything that fits you more than me. Thanks for thinking of me buddy</quote> Im not a democrat or a republican?</quote> independant?</quote> Yep.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kombucha 10/06/18 4:37:27 PM #40:	metralo posted... nope!! voting red!!! i want to pay MORE for SHITTIER and SLOWER internet!! deal with it, you stupid liherals!!! xD checks out!!!! --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:910072833] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote><cite>metralo posted...</cite> <quote>nope!! voting red!!! i want to pay MORE for SHITTIER and SLOWER internet!! deal with it, you stupid liherals!!! xD</quote> checks out!!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/06/18 4:52:28 PM #41:	#8 is going to be what kills it. ISPs are scared shitless of actual competition, and municipalities are utterly addicted to franchise fees. Also, WTF does #5 even mean? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:910073640] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote>#8 is going to be what kills it. ISPs are scared shitless of actual competition, and municipalities are utterly addicted to franchise fees. Also, WTF does #5 even mean?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kombucha 10/06/18 5:02:38 PM #42:	Questionmarktarius posted... #8 is going to be what kills it. ISPs are scared shitless of actual competition, and municipalities are utterly addicted to franchise fees. Also, WTF does #5 even mean? It's a bit much to ask of social media companies, but the idea is you should be allowed to freely move your data between services if you desire to do so. This is more of a concept that is happening now in the Fediverse, or decentralized FOSS social media that relies on email-like protocols to stay connected across sites (ActivityPub). An example would be how I can export all of my data from one Mastodon instance and put it in another competing Mastodon instance. There are some instances where I could actually transfer my information to another service within the Fediverse entirely as well, but this is something that is very early on in development. That said, the idea that you should be able to pull all of your information from Facebook and somehow be able to plug that into Twitter would not work for obvious reasons (character limits, etc). Like I feel like it was well intentioned, and maybe there is reason behind it. If there is good reason behind it, it's probably too forward thinking given the current state of things. --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:910074224] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>#8 is going to be what kills it. ISPs are scared shitless of actual competition, and municipalities are utterly addicted to franchise fees. Also, WTF does #5 even mean?</quote> It's a bit much to ask of social media companies, but the idea is you should be allowed to freely move your data between services if you desire to do so. This is more of a concept that is happening now in the Fediverse, or decentralized FOSS social media that relies on email-like protocols to stay connected across sites (ActivityPub). An example would be how I can export all of my data from one Mastodon instance and put it in another competing Mastodon instance. There are some instances where I could actually transfer my information to another service within the Fediverse entirely as well, but this is something that is very early on in development. That said, the idea that you should be able to pull all of your information from Facebook and somehow be able to plug that into Twitter would not work for obvious reasons (character limits, etc). Like I feel like it was well intentioned, and maybe there is reason behind it. If there is good reason behind it, it's probably too forward thinking given the current state of things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/06/18 5:07:20 PM #43:	Kombucha posted... Questionmarktarius posted... #8 is going to be what kills it. ISPs are scared shitless of actual competition, and municipalities are utterly addicted to franchise fees. Also, WTF does #5 even mean? It's a bit much to ask of social media companies, but the idea is you should be allowed to freely move your data between services if you desire to do so. This is more of a concept that is happening now in the Fediverse, or decentralized FOSS social media that relies on email-like protocols to stay connected across sites (ActivityPub). An example would be how I can export all of my data from one Mastodon instance and put it in another competing Mastodon instance. There are some instances where I could actually transfer my information to another service within the Fediverse entirely as well, but this is something that is very early on in development. That said, the idea that you should be able to pull all of your information from Facebook and somehow be able to plug that into Twitter would not work for obvious reasons (character limits, etc). Like I feel like it was well intentioned, and maybe there is reason behind it. If there is good reason behind it, it's probably too forward thinking given the current state of things. #5 might be aimed at medical insurance. The idea would be that if you went from one network to another, they are required to comply with your request to transfer all that digital information and history to their competition so you don't have to effectively start over or fill out a million medical history forms at the new office. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:910074506] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kombucha posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>#8 is going to be what kills it. ISPs are scared shitless of actual competition, and municipalities are utterly addicted to franchise fees. Also, WTF does #5 even mean?</quote> It's a bit much to ask of social media companies, but the idea is you should be allowed to freely move your data between services if you desire to do so. This is more of a concept that is happening now in the Fediverse, or decentralized FOSS social media that relies on email-like protocols to stay connected across sites (ActivityPub). An example would be how I can export all of my data from one Mastodon instance and put it in another competing Mastodon instance. There are some instances where I could actually transfer my information to another service within the Fediverse entirely as well, but this is something that is very early on in development. That said, the idea that you should be able to pull all of your information from Facebook and somehow be able to plug that into Twitter would not work for obvious reasons (character limits, etc). Like I feel like it was well intentioned, and maybe there is reason behind it. If there is good reason behind it, it's probably too forward thinking given the current state of things.</quote> #5 might be aimed at medical insurance. The idea would be that if you went from one network to another, they are required to comply with your request to transfer all that digital information and history to their competition so you don't have to effectively start over or fill out a million medical history forms at the new office.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kombucha 10/06/18 5:08:02 PM #44:	s0nicfan posted... Kombucha posted... Questionmarktarius posted... #8 is going to be what kills it. ISPs are scared shitless of actual competition, and municipalities are utterly addicted to franchise fees. Also, WTF does #5 even mean? It's a bit much to ask of social media companies, but the idea is you should be allowed to freely move your data between services if you desire to do so. This is more of a concept that is happening now in the Fediverse, or decentralized FOSS social media that relies on email-like protocols to stay connected across sites (ActivityPub). An example would be how I can export all of my data from one Mastodon instance and put it in another competing Mastodon instance. There are some instances where I could actually transfer my information to another service within the Fediverse entirely as well, but this is something that is very early on in development. That said, the idea that you should be able to pull all of your information from Facebook and somehow be able to plug that into Twitter would not work for obvious reasons (character limits, etc). Like I feel like it was well intentioned, and maybe there is reason behind it. If there is good reason behind it, it's probably too forward thinking given the current state of things. #5 might be aimed at medical insurance. The idea would be that if you went from one network to another, they are required to comply with your request to transfer all that digital information and history to their competition so you don't have to effectively start over or fill out a million medical history forms at the new office. That would make way more sense. --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:910074549] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kombucha posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>#8 is going to be what kills it. ISPs are scared shitless of actual competition, and municipalities are utterly addicted to franchise fees. Also, WTF does #5 even mean?</quote> It's a bit much to ask of social media companies, but the idea is you should be allowed to freely move your data between services if you desire to do so. This is more of a concept that is happening now in the Fediverse, or decentralized FOSS social media that relies on email-like protocols to stay connected across sites (ActivityPub). An example would be how I can export all of my data from one Mastodon instance and put it in another competing Mastodon instance. There are some instances where I could actually transfer my information to another service within the Fediverse entirely as well, but this is something that is very early on in development. That said, the idea that you should be able to pull all of your information from Facebook and somehow be able to plug that into Twitter would not work for obvious reasons (character limits, etc). Like I feel like it was well intentioned, and maybe there is reason behind it. If there is good reason behind it, it's probably too forward thinking given the current state of things.</quote> #5 might be aimed at medical insurance. The idea would be that if you went from one network to another, they are required to comply with your request to transfer all that digital information and history to their competition so you don't have to effectively start over or fill out a million medical history forms at the new office.</quote> That would make way more sense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/06/18 5:09:11 PM #45:	Kombucha posted... It's a bit much to ask of social media companies, but the idea is you should be allowed to freely move your data between services if you desire to do so. Seems like that wold make it even easier to be tracked across the web, which runs counter to #3 and #4 via #2. All this would accomplish is nudging every damn website, at the heavy urging of advertisers, into walling content off behind a facebook or google login, which we just did get over anyway. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:910074614] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kombucha posted...</cite> <quote>It's a bit much to ask of social media companies, but the idea is you should be allowed to freely move your data between services if you desire to do so.</quote> Seems like that wold make it even easier to be tracked across the web, which runs counter to #3 and #4 via #2. All this would accomplish is nudging every damn website, at the heavy urging of advertisers, into walling content off behind a facebook or google login, which we just did get over anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Catgirl Fondler 10/06/18 5:21:22 PM #46:	I don't vote, it's a waste of time. --- N/A <cite>The Catgirl Fondler posted [p:910075214] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote>I don't vote, it's a waste of time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 10/06/18 5:33:36 PM #47:	I disagree with that bill. It's too broad and places unreasonable restrictions on small businesses. Some points are good but can't agree with it as a whole. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:910075876] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote>I disagree with that bill. It's too broad and places unreasonable restrictions on small businesses. Some points are good but can't agree with it as a whole.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ManBeast462 10/06/18 5:36:15 PM #48:	Topic title reads like they arent going to propose this --- Fear the Beast / she will return > https://tinyurl.com/yb2parlb https://imgur.com/EKKJrY6 <cite>ManBeast462 posted [p:910076012] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote>Topic title reads like they arent going to propose this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/06/18 5:43:35 PM #49:	Tyranthraxus posted... and places unreasonable restrictions on small businesses. What makes you think that? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:910076347] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>and places unreasonable restrictions on small businesses.</quote> What makes you think that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kombucha 10/06/18 5:47:44 PM #50:	ManBeast462 posted... Topic title reads like they arent going to propose this Derived from the article on gizmodo. I removed the quip about Facebook at the end because it seemed click-baity. --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:910076546] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote><cite>ManBeast462 posted...</cite> <quote>Topic title reads like they arent going to propose this</quote> Derived from the article on gizmodo. I removed the quip about Facebook at the end because it seemed click-baity.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 10/06/18 5:47:53 PM #51:	Questionmarktarius posted... Tyranthraxus posted... and places unreasonable restrictions on small businesses. What makes you think that? Because I work in this area and have intimate knowledge of the finances and technical skills to accomplish this in the event that you weren't already compliant. We have a lot of international customers that basically exported GDPR compliance to us, as well as others such as Banks with super high security standards that 3rd parties have to meet, so we would be like already 95% compliant with this if it passed. Other people, not so much. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:910076557] in Democrats ... [t:77072940]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>and places unreasonable restrictions on small businesses.</quote> What makes you think that?</quote> Because I work in this area and have intimate knowledge of the finances and technical skills to accomplish this in the event that you weren't already compliant. We have a lot of international customers that basically exported GDPR compliance to us, as well as others such as Banks with super high security standards that 3rd parties have to meet, so we would be like already 95% compliant with this if it passed. Other people, not so much.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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