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John_Galt
08/20/18 12:01:29 PM
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-45246409

Oh, looks like you need a forklift load of money just for basic items like tampons and toilet paper
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PoopPotato
08/20/18 12:02:17 PM
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That's why I use Cherokee hair tampons
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KILBOTz
08/20/18 12:02:43 PM
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why not just use the money as TP and tampons?
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Minute
08/20/18 12:07:50 PM
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perhaps its not socialism that's ruining venezuela but the fact that maduro was a fucking bus driver with no formal education, not even a high school diploma
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SuperMedz3
08/20/18 12:19:34 PM
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The NAZIS forced socialism.
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X-Pac_Heat
08/20/18 12:21:01 PM
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Not MY socialism
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SuperMedz3
08/20/18 12:21:14 PM
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Minute posted...
perhaps its not socialism that's ruining venezuela but the fact that maduro was a fucking bus driver with no formal education, not even a high school diploma

Lot of uneducated people think socialism works.
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southcoast09
08/20/18 12:23:43 PM
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Oh, but this isnt real socialism! We would never try this kind of socialism. What we want is utopian socialism, where nobody does anything and we are all somehow millionaires.
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Minute
08/20/18 12:24:53 PM
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SuperMedz3 posted...
Minute posted...
perhaps its not socialism that's ruining venezuela but the fact that maduro was a fucking bus driver with no formal education, not even a high school diploma

Lot of uneducated people think socialism works.

A lot of uneducated people think libertarianism works. What's your point? There are a lot of examples of successful socialist democracies, I live in one, but give me one successful libertarian state.
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Caution999
08/20/18 12:25:31 PM
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Lmao
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billcom6
08/20/18 12:25:58 PM
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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/16/these-are-the-top-10-happiest-countries-in-the-world.html
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s0nicfan
08/20/18 12:27:12 PM
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billcom6 posted...
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/16/these-are-the-top-10-happiest-countries-in-the-world.html


You realize there's a difference between a social democracy and socialism, right?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffreydorfman/2018/07/08/sorry-bernie-bros-but-nordic-countries-are-not-socialist/
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Minute
08/20/18 12:28:23 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
billcom6 posted...
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/16/these-are-the-top-10-happiest-countries-in-the-world.html


You realize there's a difference between a social democracy and socialism, right?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffreydorfman/2018/07/08/sorry-bernie-bros-but-nordic-countries-are-not-socialist/

He says, covering up the tracks from dragging the goalposts.
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s0nicfan
08/20/18 12:29:29 PM
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Minute posted...
s0nicfan posted...
billcom6 posted...
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/16/these-are-the-top-10-happiest-countries-in-the-world.html


You realize there's a difference between a social democracy and socialism, right?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffreydorfman/2018/07/08/sorry-bernie-bros-but-nordic-countries-are-not-socialist/

He says, covering up the tracks from dragging the goalposts.


I'm not the one that tried to move the goalpost, mate. I'm just the one that kicked the ball right between the posts.
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Minute
08/20/18 12:38:29 PM
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Interesting use of the analogy, but unfortunately your actual point falls flat.

Socialism works. It works in the Nordic Countries, it works in Canada, in Australia, New Zealand, the Netherlands, etc.

Sorry, just because these are democracies and not dictatorships, doesn't make it """not real socialism." It's socialism and it works in the right formula.
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s0nicfan
08/20/18 12:39:55 PM
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Minute posted...
Interesting use of the analogy, but unfortunately your actual point falls flat.

Socialism works. It works in the Nordic Countries, it works in Canada, in Australia, New Zealand, the Netherlands, etc.

Sorry, just because these are democracies and not dictatorships, doesn't make it """not real socialism." It's socialism and it works in the right formula.


It's literally not socialism because industry retains the means of production. Read the Forbes article.
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Cheater87
08/20/18 12:40:47 PM
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Doesn't the US do what they can to destroy all non socialist systems to make capitalism look good?
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Big_Nabendu
08/20/18 12:42:12 PM
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Minute
08/20/18 12:43:06 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
It's literally not socialism because industry retains the means of production. Read the Forbes article.

Nah, I don't read blogs.
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Paper_Okami
08/20/18 12:48:59 PM
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Cheater87 posted...
Doesn't the US do what they can to destroy all non socialist systems to make capitalism look good?


yes
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MakoReizei
08/20/18 12:49:53 PM
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Socialism is un-American
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John_Galt
08/20/18 1:40:00 PM
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Up
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The Admiral
08/20/18 1:43:45 PM
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As a silver lining, the economic situation in Venezuela has produced a volume of new recipes for cooking rat meat.
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DragonGirlYuki
08/20/18 1:44:45 PM
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The Admiral posted...
As a silver lining, the economic situation in Venezuela has produced a volume of new recipes for cooking rat meat.

Lol
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Caution999
08/20/18 3:17:11 PM
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damn.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
08/20/18 4:13:06 PM
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Why do people here talk about socialism so much? I don't hear about it anywhere else.
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hockeybub89
08/20/18 4:14:44 PM
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The average American that wants socialism doesn't want Venezuela socialism. They want the socialistic elements of the Scandanavian nations. They might not even frame it as "I want socialism".
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gunplagirl
08/20/18 4:15:35 PM
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Remember how it was a hellhole country even before this guy took over as a result of decades of foreign (mostly US) intervention? Pepperidge farms remembers.
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DragonGirlYuki
08/20/18 4:15:40 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Why do people here talk about socialism so much? I don't hear about it anywhere else.

The NEETs of this board want the free handouts associated with socialism.
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Rimmer_Dall
08/20/18 4:16:05 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
The average American that wants socialism doesn't want Venezuela socialism. They want the socialistic elements of the Scandanavian nations. They might not even frame it as "I want socialism".

We aren't democratic socialists. We're social democrats. The former is socialist, the latter is capitalist. Learn the damn difference. "Social safety net" isn't socialism. Socialism is "no private ownership".
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gunplagirl
08/20/18 4:16:26 PM
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Cheater87 posted...
Doesn't the US do what they can to destroy all non socialist systems to make capitalism look good?

Basically
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SuperMedz3
08/20/18 5:47:49 PM
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Cheater87 posted...
Doesn't the US do what they can to destroy all non socialist systems to make capitalism look good?

Or socialism kills itself
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Metro2
08/20/18 5:48:50 PM
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Yes, let's check.

[looks at Norway, Sweden, Denmark]

They're doing pretty fine, TC.
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Rimmer_Dall
08/20/18 5:57:42 PM
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Metro2 posted...
Yes, let's check.

[looks at Norway, Sweden, Denmark]

They're doing pretty fine, TC.

Imagine actually thinking these are socialist countries.
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Dash_Harber
08/20/18 6:00:24 PM
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I like how Venezuela is the only country with socialist policies when the argument is convenient, but then when another country like Canada or Denmark implements an incredibly effective socialist policy, then suddenly it's not about socialism.

This whole 'socialism vs capitalism' this is a ridiculously misguided and naive argument that just serves a smokescreen for actual issues that are going on.
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DragonGirlYuki
08/20/18 6:04:28 PM
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Canada isn't socialist. The governing party has either been center or right leaning so Canada can be described as center right economically.
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Dash_Harber
08/20/18 6:05:44 PM
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DragonGirlYuki posted...
Canada isn't socialist. The governing party has either been center or right leaning so Canada can be described as center right economically.


Yes, I know, I'm pointing out that the country frequently implements socialist policies because, as I already described, the whole 'socialism/communism vs capitalism' is a false dilemma rooted in an archaic view of nation-states.
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RealBroShiiii
08/20/18 6:06:32 PM
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at least there are no evil millionaires!
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GreatEvilEmpire
08/21/18 2:40:06 PM
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Metro2 posted...
Yes, let's check.

[looks at Norway, Sweden, Denmark]

They're doing pretty fine, TC.


Those countries are pro-capitalist countries with high tax rates and generous social programs. They also have less than 10 million people each (Sweden - 9.9 million, Norway - 5.2 million, Denmark - 5.7 million), making socialist budgets more manageable. Venezuela's population is 39 million, which collapsed on it own weight. The US population is 330 million, that's enough to destroy the US in 2 years if it was socialist.

The funny thing about these countries is that they get all their technology and medicine from more pro-capitalist countries, mainly the USA. They barely have any innovation of their own and they would collapse if not for the innovations of capitalism.
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theAteam
08/21/18 2:42:18 PM
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These topics always go in the same circles.
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YUHH
08/21/18 2:55:40 PM
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Ayn Rand SUCKS
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