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Ryetoast 04/30/18 7:42:54 PM #1:	I'm reading this source book and it's confusing as fuck.. But I got the sense that Confucianism reinforced Chinese thought and philosophy. In addition, it placed an emphasis on education and the literati. In doing so it created a system that was hierarchical, and there was less emphasis on the emperor. So by the Han the ruler is already a figurehead? --- The user formerly known as 626 <cite>Ryetoast posted [p:900587640] in So the con... [t:76567431]...</cite> <quote>I'm reading this source book and it's confusing as fuck.. But I got the sense that Confucianism reinforced Chinese thought and philosophy. In addition, it placed an emphasis on education and the literati. In doing so it created a system that was hierarchical, and there was less emphasis on the emperor. So by the Han the ruler is already a figurehead?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack 04/30/18 7:43:52 PM #2:	I-Ching baby --- http://i.imgur.com/plA0Vg9.gif http://i.minus.com/iluvk8aR4mzC8.gif <cite>BignutzisBack posted [p:900587692] in So the con... [t:76567431]...</cite> <quote>I-Ching baby</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spudger 04/30/18 7:44:46 PM #3:	did you mean to put this in the chinese history board? --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html <cite>spudger posted [p:900587741] in So the con... [t:76567431]...</cite> <quote>did you mean to put this in the chinese history board?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryetoast 04/30/18 7:45:38 PM #4:	BignutzisBack posted... I-Ching baby What? spudger posted... did you mean to put this in the chinese history board? I don't think there is one.. There are some History people here I thought it would catch their attention. --- The user formerly known as 626 <cite>Ryetoast posted [p:900587788] in So the con... [t:76567431]...</cite> <quote><cite>BignutzisBack posted...</cite> <quote>I-Ching baby</quote> What? <cite>spudger posted...</cite> <quote>did you mean to put this in the chinese history board?</quote> I don't think there is one.. There are some History people here I thought it would catch their attention.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack 04/30/18 7:46:35 PM #5:	Ryetoast posted... What? The most important scripture in Chinese history imo --- http://i.imgur.com/plA0Vg9.gif http://i.minus.com/iluvk8aR4mzC8.gif <cite>BignutzisBack posted [p:900587823] in So the con... [t:76567431]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryetoast posted...</cite> <quote>What?</quote> The most important scripture in Chinese history imo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 04/30/18 7:49:10 PM #6:	Ryetoast posted... I'm reading this source book and it's confusing as fuck.. But I got the sense that Confucianism reinforced Chinese thought and philosophy. In addition, it placed an emphasis on education and the literati. In doing so it created a system that was hierarchical, and there was less emphasis on the emperor. So by the Han the ruler is already a figurehead? No. Confucianism was legally enforced by the Han so as you could expect it had some confusing contradictions since the whole philosophy is about choosing to do the good thing because it's the good thing and not because Government officials are forcing you to do it. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:900587937] in So the con... [t:76567431]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryetoast posted...</cite> <quote>I'm reading this source book and it's confusing as fuck.. But I got the sense that Confucianism reinforced Chinese thought and philosophy. In addition, it placed an emphasis on education and the literati. In doing so it created a system that was hierarchical, and there was less emphasis on the emperor. So by the Han the ruler is already a figurehead?</quote> No. Confucianism was legally enforced by the Han so as you could expect it had some confusing contradictions since the whole philosophy is about choosing to do the good thing because it's the good thing and not because Government officials are forcing you to do it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spudger 04/30/18 7:52:04 PM #7:	Ryetoast posted... There are some History people here I thought it would catch their attention. is it for school? --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html <cite>spudger posted [p:900588087] in So the con... [t:76567431]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryetoast posted...</cite> <quote>There are some History people here I thought it would catch their attention.</quote> is it for school?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryetoast 04/30/18 7:53:18 PM #8:	Tyranthraxus posted... Ryetoast posted... I'm reading this source book and it's confusing as fuck.. But I got the sense that Confucianism reinforced Chinese thought and philosophy. In addition, it placed an emphasis on education and the literati. In doing so it created a system that was hierarchical, and there was less emphasis on the emperor. So by the Han the ruler is already a figurehead? No. Confucianism was legally enforced by the Han so as you could expect it had some confusing contradictions since the whole philosophy is about choosing to do the good thing because it's the good thing and not because Government officials are forcing you to do it. It was legally codified and put into practice by the Han then? I'm gonna fail this class...professor said it doesn't get clear until like page 700.. --- The user formerly known as 626 <cite>Ryetoast posted [p:900588146] in So the con... [t:76567431]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryetoast posted...</cite> <quote>I'm reading this source book and it's confusing as fuck.. But I got the sense that Confucianism reinforced Chinese thought and philosophy. In addition, it placed an emphasis on education and the literati. In doing so it created a system that was hierarchical, and there was less emphasis on the emperor. So by the Han the ruler is already a figurehead?</quote> No. Confucianism was legally enforced by the Han so as you could expect it had some confusing contradictions since the whole philosophy is about choosing to do the good thing because it's the good thing and not because Government officials are forcing you to do it.</quote> It was legally codified and put into practice by the Han then? I'm gonna fail this class...professor said it doesn't get clear until like page 700..</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryetoast 04/30/18 7:54:40 PM #9:	spudger posted... is it for school? Yeah. Early Imperial Chinese History.. But it's like all Philosophy and it makes my brain hurt.. --- The user formerly known as 626 <cite>Ryetoast posted [p:900588195] in So the con... [t:76567431]...</cite> <quote><cite>spudger posted...</cite> <quote>is it for school?</quote> Yeah. Early Imperial Chinese History.. But it's like all Philosophy and it makes my brain hurt..</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 04/30/18 7:56:35 PM #10:	That sounds like a cool class <cite>Zikten posted [p:900588277] in So the con... [t:76567431]...</cite> <quote>That sounds like a cool class</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 04/30/18 7:58:06 PM #11:	I like randomly encountering educational content. I don't know much about this though, so I'll mostly be lurking. --- Whatever happened to standards? Whatever happened to bare minimums? https://imgtc.com/i/7UnK3hx.jpg <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:900588347] in So the con... [t:76567431]...</cite> <quote>I like randomly encountering educational content. I don't know much about this though, so I'll mostly be lurking.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryetoast 04/30/18 7:58:31 PM #12:	Zikten posted... That sounds like a cool class I have full points, but all we've done is quizzes so far.. My favorite class this quarter is Civil War and Reconstruction. --- The user formerly known as 626 <cite>Ryetoast posted [p:900588362] in So the con... [t:76567431]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>That sounds like a cool class</quote> I have full points, but all we've done is quizzes so far.. My favorite class this quarter is Civil War and Reconstruction.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryetoast 04/30/18 8:23:13 PM #13:	BignutzisBack posted... Ryetoast posted... What? The most important scripture in Chinese history imo Is that the filial duty of a daughter? It mentioned this in a paragraph...I think the paragraph emphasized how it's important to Chinese culture..but it didn't cite it. Looked it up. They mention this in passing as well... --- The user formerly known as 626 <cite>Ryetoast posted [p:900589733] in So the con... [t:76567431]...</cite> <quote><cite>BignutzisBack posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryetoast posted...</cite> <quote>What?</quote> The most important scripture in Chinese history imo</quote> Is that the filial duty of a daughter? It mentioned this in a paragraph...I think the paragraph emphasized how it's important to Chinese culture..but it didn't cite it. Looked it up. They mention this in passing as well...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 04/30/18 8:33:02 PM #14:	Ryetoast posted... It was legally codified and put into practice by the Han then? Yeah basically after the Qin dynasty collapsed the Han said "okay legalism was a huge failure we're doing this Kung Fuci thing here now." --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:900590251] in So the con... [t:76567431]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryetoast posted...</cite> <quote>It was legally codified and put into practice by the Han then?</quote> Yeah basically after the Qin dynasty collapsed the Han said "okay legalism was a huge failure we're doing this Kung Fuci thing here now."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 04/30/18 8:35:41 PM #15:	Ryetoast posted... Is that the filial duty of a daughter? Kung Fuci was really big on filial piety of daughters and sons and how husbands and wives should conduct each other and a huge book of what he considered good manners "the gentleman" Some stuff in it wouldn't really fly today, especially about women, but most people would find the stuff he expected of men to be a little tough to swallow as well. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:900590395] in So the con... [t:76567431]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryetoast posted...</cite> <quote>Is that the filial duty of a daughter? </quote> Kung Fuci was really big on filial piety of daughters and sons and how husbands and wives should conduct each other and a huge book of what he considered good manners "the gentleman" Some stuff in it wouldn't really fly today, especially about women, but most people would find the stuff he expected of men to be a little tough to swallow as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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