Current Events > I just watched death note, is Ryuk really a villain ?

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Also When Ryuk said you can go ahead and try to write my name in the book, he said the farthest people got was two letters. What is he implying ?
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I'll take a potato chip, and eat it
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Ryuk was supposed to be a villain?

Ive only seen the anime and he was pretty much an unbiased observer.
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Thats what other sources are saying
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Ryuk doesn't care who wins or loses. He's just hanging around because he was bored in the other world and wanted some fun. The only time he ever helped Light was so he could eat apples.

also only the movie had the apparent rule that you could kill a shinigami with a notebook. the anime doesn't have that rule.
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ryuk is neutral imo
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He wasn't a villain so much as a facilitator.

Yeah, at the end of the day Light wouldn't have caused so much damage if Ryuk hadn't been bored and just wanted to see some chaos... but Light could have chosen to be ambivalent.
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it's obvious TC is talking about the movie. indicate the medium next time
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The movie is a hilarious joke.

Watch the real Death Note

Ryuk is just a corrupt influencer, he takes no sides other then seeing how a person uses the notebook.
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Not really. I guess you could technically call him one since without his actions the events wouldn't have unfolded as they did

Nah, he's just having fun. Humans amuse him and he gets apples if he helps.
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I haven't watched the movie but in the manga and anime he pretty obviously is a villain. Not the worst, sure. But giving someone the power to commit mass murder, and then sitting back and watching while they do it, just because you are bored, is pretty villainous in my opinion.

Has Ryuk personally killed anyone ? Im sure it was implied in the movies
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Ryuk is that dude that gave the troubled teen an assault rifle because he was bored. Yeah he enabled it but he didnt pull the trigger.
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I don't think Light should be considered a troubled teen. He legit thought that what he was doing was good, and arguably... I mean, he was killing convicts who seriously broke the law at first
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robellr13 posted...

Has Ryuk personally killed anyone ? Im sure it was implied in the movies

In the anime and manga he did.

He's an asshole, not a villain.

Go watch the anime. The movie is garbage and ruins the animes good name.
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robellr13 posted...

Has Ryuk personally killed anyone ? Im sure it was implied in the movies

I'm pretty sure he kills all the people he hands death notes to when he gets bored of them

Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

I don't think Light should be considered a troubled teen. He legit thought that what he was doing was good, and arguably... I mean, he was killing convicts who seriously broke the law at first

Troubled is a great description of Light. Yeah slaughter everyone you see fit and take over the world. Some people very late wernt so guilty.
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Ryuk lied, someone did get more than 2 letters. "Don't trust Ryuk."
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Axiom posted...

robellr13 posted...

Has Ryuk personally killed anyone ? Im sure it was implied in the movies

I'm pretty sure he kills all the people he hands death notes to when he gets bored of them

Cant you just reject the book? Will that guarantee your safety ?

KogaSteelfang posted...

Ryuk lied, someone did get more than 2 letters. "Don't trust Ryuk."

Holy shit I missed that. Im sure that person got killed though.
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That Netflix movie was trash.
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robellr13 posted...

Has Ryuk personally killed anyone ? Im sure it was implied in the movies

In the manga/anime, that's just how shinigami work. When they kill someone with their Death Note, the lifespan that person would have had without the DN interfering is added to the shinigami's lifespan.
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KogaSteelfang posted...

Ryuk lied, someone did get more than 2 letters. "Don't trust Ryuk."

Yeah that shit like...encapsulated how stupid the movie was lol
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He's just a bored demon having a laugh. Not a villain at all. Near and L were honestly more villainous.
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If Ryuk was human and enticing humans to kill humans, id consider him a villain.

Seeing as hes a bored "demon" and human lives mean little, i consider him neutral.
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LordMarshal posted...

If Ryuk was human and enticing humans to kill humans, id consider him a villain.

Seeing as hes a bored "demon" and human lives mean little, i consider him neutral.

So like dog fighting right ? Since people consider animal lives little
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The one thing the movie did get right tho was casting Willem Dafoe as Ryuk
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Touch posted...

The one thing the movie did get right tho was casting Willem Dafoe as Ryuk

That honestly just makes the movie so much worse. Such a prefect fucking casting wasted on that piece of shit.
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robellr13 posted...

LordMarshal posted...

If Ryuk was human and enticing humans to kill humans, id consider him a villain.

Seeing as hes a bored "demon" and human lives mean little, i consider him neutral.

So like dog fighting right ? Since people consider animal lives little

We play an active role in getting the dogs to fight and gain from bets. Maybe if you threw a steak in the middle of a bunch of hungry dogs. You did it out of boredom and didnt really make them fight and gained nothing but entertainment.
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Netflix Ryuk was obviously a villain. The true villain behind the main villain in fact. Manga/anime is more ambiguous.

LordMarshal posted...

If Ryuk was human and enticing humans to kill humans, id consider him a villain.

Seeing as hes a bored "demon" and human lives mean little, i consider him neutral.

Wait, are you saying just because they're not human they can't be villains? Bowser isn't a villain? Dracula isn't a villain?

LordMarshal posted...

robellr13 posted...

LordMarshal posted...

If Ryuk was human and enticing humans to kill humans, id consider him a villain.

Seeing as hes a bored "demon" and human lives mean little, i consider him neutral.

So like dog fighting right ? Since people consider animal lives little

We play an active role in getting the dogs to fight and gain from bets. Maybe if you threw a steak in the middle of a bunch of hungry dogs. You did it out of boredom and didnt really make them fight and gained nothing but entertainment.

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I think this post changed my opinion. Ryuk was definitely a villain

PtlessAgmnts posted...

Netflix Ryuk was obviously a villain. The true villain behind the main villain in fact. Manga/anime is more ambiguous.

Netflix Ryuk literally did nothing. It was all his bitchy girlfriend.

Loved that twist

I would say Ryuk is more like a force of nature than a villain.
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

PtlessAgmnts posted...

Netflix Ryuk was obviously a villain. The true villain behind the main villain in fact. Manga/anime is more ambiguous.

Netflix Ryuk literally did nothing. It was all his bitchy girlfriend.

Loved that twist

He insisted and pressured Light to kill someone like someone pressuring a kid to use drugs at the beginning. Also said he'd give the note to someone else if light stopped killing

Hes a very indirect villain for those pushing so hard for him to be a villain.
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PtlessAgmnts posted...

Netflix Ryuk was obviously a villain. The true villain behind the main villain in fact. Manga/anime is more ambiguous.

LordMarshal posted...

If Ryuk was human and enticing humans to kill humans, id consider him a villain.

Seeing as hes a bored "demon" and human lives mean little, i consider him neutral.

Wait, are you saying just because they're not human they can't be villains? Bowser isn't a villain? Dracula isn't a villain?

You have to be smarter than this.
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Axiom posted...

LordMarshal posted...

robellr13 posted...

LordMarshal posted...

If Ryuk was human and enticing humans to kill humans, id consider him a villain.

Seeing as hes a bored "demon" and human lives mean little, i consider him neutral.

So like dog fighting right ? Since people consider animal lives little

We play an active role in getting the dogs to fight and gain from bets. Maybe if you threw a steak in the middle of a bunch of hungry dogs. You did it out of boredom and didnt really make them fight and gained nothing but entertainment.

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I think this post changed my opinion. Ryuk was definitely a villain

I missed the part where i said its like "kicking puppies....to death"
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

I don't think Light should be considered a troubled teen. He legit thought that what he was doing was good, and arguably... I mean, he was killing convicts who seriously broke the law at first

Just like every other mass murder who made a excuse to tell them self so they wont feel guilty.

LordMarshal posted...

PtlessAgmnts posted...

Netflix Ryuk was obviously a villain. The true villain behind the main villain in fact. Manga/anime is more ambiguous.

LordMarshal posted...

If Ryuk was human and enticing humans to kill humans, id consider him a villain.

Seeing as hes a bored "demon" and human lives mean little, i consider him neutral.

Wait, are you saying just because they're not human they can't be villains? Bowser isn't a villain? Dracula isn't a villain?

You have to be smarter than this.

Not sure why you brought up humans and demons anyways. Countless fantasy and space stories have non humans who view humans as insects or cattle. Being a villain is based on actions.
And about indirectness
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheManBehindTheMan
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GreaterScopeVillain
You can still be a villain after you're dead.
Like Dio in part 6 Jojo.

Ryuk pretends he is neutral, but really is an accomplice or at the very least a facilitator for lying to L when he wouldn't acknowledge the rules that Light added were fake.

Hexagon posted...

Ryuk pretends he is neutral, but really is an accomplice or at the very least a facilitator for lying to L when he wouldn't acknowledge the rules that Light added were fake.

He is neutral. He plays along with Light just because he thinks it'd be funnier.
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pegusus123456 posted...

Hexagon posted...

Ryuk pretends he is neutral, but really is an accomplice or at the very least a facilitator for lying to L when he wouldn't acknowledge the rules that Light added were fake.

He is neutral. He plays along with Light just because he thinks it'd be funnier.

Right. And telling a police officer that a criminal went left when they went right wont get you into trouble for lying if an investigator notices that because you're just being neutral?

Watch the anime instead. The movie was ok, but it doesnt do the series justice. The series is so much better, and this is coming from someone that doesnt watch anime.
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Hexagon posted...

pegusus123456 posted...

Hexagon posted...

Ryuk pretends he is neutral, but really is an accomplice or at the very least a facilitator for lying to L when he wouldn't acknowledge the rules that Light added were fake.

He is neutral. He plays along with Light just because he thinks it'd be funnier.

Right. And telling a police officer that a criminal went left when they went right wont get you into trouble for lying if an investigator notices that because you're just being neutral?

You're looking at one incident. He did that because that's just what he wanted to do. If he'd ever thought turning against Light was funny, he'd have done that too.
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He is chaotic neutral/
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pegusus123456 posted...

He did that because that's just what he wanted to do.

What he chose to do is side with Light, therefore he is not neutral. Like neutrality isn't a measure of what you do on average. If Ryuk aided L and Light, he still wouldn't be truly neutral. And he hasn't even done that

He is probably a villain in the same way cows see humans.
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