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Zikten 12/30/17 4:33:41 PM #1:	non cops don't. it's not fair that cops are trained to put their lives above ours. they will kill us to stay alive even when we are innocent. just cause thye are scared. well what about us? we get scared too, but we have no rights. if we make a mistake we get blown away. and the cop that does it gets a paid vacation <cite>Zikten posted [p:893134451] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote>non cops don't. it's not fair that cops are trained to put their lives above ours. they will kill us to stay alive even when we are innocent. just cause thye are scared. well what about us? we get scared too, but we have no rights. if we make a mistake we get blown away. and the cop that does it gets a paid vacation</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeanAuryn 12/30/17 4:35:07 PM #2:	Someone sounds bitter and wrong. --- I love beautiful women. <cite>DeanAuryn posted [p:893134509] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote>Someone sounds bitter and wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/30/17 4:36:32 PM #3:	DeanAuryn posted... Someone sounds bitter and wrong. see if you still feel so pro cop some day if they get the wrong address and break down your door and shoot you cause you were confused in your living room <cite>Zikten posted [p:893134568] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>DeanAuryn posted...</cite> <quote>Someone sounds bitter and wrong.</quote> see if you still feel so pro cop some day if they get the wrong address and break down your door and shoot you cause you were confused in your living room</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eggcorn 12/30/17 4:37:58 PM #4:	TC sounds underage <cite>eggcorn posted [p:893134627] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote>TC sounds underage</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/30/17 4:38:42 PM #5:	eggcorn posted... TC sounds underage my account is probably older than you <cite>Zikten posted [p:893134663] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>eggcorn posted...</cite> <quote>TC sounds underage</quote> my account is probably older than you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 12/30/17 4:39:15 PM #6:	What are you even babbling about --- Cubs, Rockies, Grizzlies, Patriots. <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:893134691] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote>What are you even babbling about</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/30/17 4:40:31 PM #7:	darkprince45 posted... What are you even babbling about in a situation where an innocent person is held at gunpoint by cops, cops have all the rights, including the right to murder and get away with it. the innocent person has no rights. if the cop gets scared they can pull the trigger. if the person is scared and make a mistake, all they can do is die <cite>Zikten posted [p:893134751] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkprince45 posted...</cite> <quote>What are you even babbling about</quote> in a situation where an innocent person is held at gunpoint by cops, cops have all the rights, including the right to murder and get away with it. the innocent person has no rights. if the cop gets scared they can pull the trigger. if the person is scared and make a mistake, all they can do is die</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 12/30/17 4:40:41 PM #8:	Your useless opinion on the rules of engagement have been noted. I'm sure you have plenty of experience responding to emergency situations where people may or may not have a firearm ready to kill you. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:893134759] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote>Your useless opinion on the rules of engagement have been noted. I'm sure you have plenty of experience responding to emergency situations where people may or may not have a firearm ready to kill you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
V-E-G-Y- 12/30/17 4:41:14 PM #9:	When did cops forget dey live to serve and protect da people? --- http://i.imgur.com/L6MQGtI.gif http://i.imgur.com/HAj1Ocp.gif http://i.imgur.com/Op6gMTg.gif http://i.imgur.com/hNkY6mv.gif <cite>V-E-G-Y- posted [p:893134786] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote>When did cops forget dey live to serve and protect da people?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hyperpowder 12/30/17 4:41:50 PM #10:	DeanAuryn posted... Someone sounds bitter and wrong. eggcorn posted... TC sounds underage darkprince45 posted... What are you even babbling about I don't get, are people for cops killing innocent people? --- Whoever beats my score I will give them a $10 PSN or Live card: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpiorAx40GY <cite>hyperpowder posted [p:893134815] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>DeanAuryn posted...</cite> <quote>Someone sounds bitter and wrong.</quote> <cite>eggcorn posted...</cite> <quote>TC sounds underage</quote> <cite>darkprince45 posted...</cite> <quote>What are you even babbling about</quote> I don't get, are people for cops killing innocent people?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eggcorn 12/30/17 4:41:52 PM #11:	Zikten posted... eggcorn posted... TC sounds underage my account is probably older than you this just got even sadder <cite>eggcorn posted [p:893134816] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eggcorn posted...</cite> <quote>TC sounds underage</quote> my account is probably older than you</quote> this just got even sadder</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Near_ 12/30/17 4:43:28 PM #12:	hyperpowder posted... I don't get, are people for cops killing innocent people? is this your first time on ce or --- https://i.imgur.com/WyFIJkF.gif This is America, where a lying, cheating degenerate can prosper. <cite>_Near_ posted [p:893134895] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>hyperpowder posted...</cite> <quote> I don't get, are people for cops killing innocent people?</quote> is this your first time on ce or</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/30/17 4:45:06 PM #13:	hyperpowder posted... DeanAuryn posted... Someone sounds bitter and wrong. eggcorn posted... TC sounds underage darkprince45 posted... What are you even babbling about I don't get, are people for cops killing innocent people? some people on CE are super pro cop and will never admit they made a mistake. they defend the cops every time and come up with excuses and blame the victim <cite>Zikten posted [p:893134958] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>hyperpowder posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DeanAuryn posted...</cite> <quote>Someone sounds bitter and wrong.</quote> <cite>eggcorn posted...</cite> <quote>TC sounds underage</quote> <cite>darkprince45 posted...</cite> <quote>What are you even babbling about</quote> I don't get, are people for cops killing innocent people?</quote> some people on CE are super pro cop and will never admit they made a mistake. they defend the cops every time and come up with excuses and blame the victim</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 12/30/17 4:46:14 PM #14:	What do you propose? We obviously can't do without law enforcement. Maybe the training can be revised, i'm sure there are different programs for the areas they are policing as well. Obviously training to work in a city like Chicago or LA is going to be a lot different than a small town in North Dakota or somewhere with a very low crime rate. I feel like it's very different to discuss it as an outsider looking in opposed to being in an actual situation like that yourself and reacting. --- Ten million dollars on a losing campaign Twenty million starving and writhing in pain <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:893135003] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote>What do you propose? We obviously can't do without law enforcement. Maybe the training can be revised, i'm sure there are different programs for the areas they are policing as well. Obviously training to work in a city like Chicago or LA is going to be a lot different than a small town in North Dakota or somewhere with a very low crime rate. I feel like it's very different to discuss it as an outsider looking in opposed to being in an actual situation like that yourself and reacting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hyperpowder 12/30/17 4:46:25 PM #15:	_Near_ posted... hyperpowder posted... I don't get, are people for cops killing innocent people? is this your first time on ce or So are people just being caddy because....i guess internet? --- Whoever beats my score I will give them a $10 PSN or Live card: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpiorAx40GY <cite>hyperpowder posted [p:893135019] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Near_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hyperpowder posted...</cite> <quote> I don't get, are people for cops killing innocent people?</quote> is this your first time on ce or</quote> So are people just being caddy because....i guess internet?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hyperpowder 12/30/17 4:49:26 PM #16:	MabusIncarnate posted... What do you propose? It's a very simple solution, get rid of "probable cause". Have cops actually do some policing, get evidence, then execute warrents. Don't just bust into peoples house because somebody said something over the phone. --- Whoever beats my score I will give them a $10 PSN or Live card: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpiorAx40GY <cite>hyperpowder posted [p:893135170] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>MabusIncarnate posted...</cite> <quote>What do you propose?</quote> It's a very simple solution, get rid of "probable cause". Have cops actually do some policing, get evidence, then execute warrents. Don't just bust into peoples house because somebody said something over the phone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Offworlder1 12/30/17 4:51:33 PM #17:	Not all police have good training, not all instructors know how to teach the right way, some police also do not care to help others and just want to harm them. Lots of variables at work. --- "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" <cite>Offworlder1 posted [p:893135276] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote>Not all police have good training, not all instructors know how to teach the right way, some police also do not care to help others and just want to harm them. Lots of variables at work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeanAuryn 12/30/17 4:52:03 PM #18:	hyperpowder posted... DeanAuryn posted... Someone sounds bitter and wrong. eggcorn posted... TC sounds underage darkprince45 posted... What are you even babbling about I don't get, are people for cops killing innocent people? Of course we're not in favour of cops killing innocent people. It's just that we rarely hear the full story. In the case TC is talking about the police told the guy to put his hands up but he refused and kept reaching for his waist. They probably shouldn't have opened fire since he was innocent and unarmed, but hindsight is great. In a real life situation things are different. --- I love beautiful women. <cite>DeanAuryn posted [p:893135307] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>hyperpowder posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DeanAuryn posted...</cite> <quote>Someone sounds bitter and wrong.</quote> <cite>eggcorn posted...</cite> <quote>TC sounds underage</quote> <cite>darkprince45 posted...</cite> <quote>What are you even babbling about</quote> I don't get, are people for cops killing innocent people?</quote> Of course we're not in favour of cops killing innocent people. It's just that we rarely hear the full story. In the case TC is talking about the police told the guy to put his hands up but he refused and kept reaching for his waist. They probably shouldn't have opened fire since he was innocent and unarmed, but hindsight is great. In a real life situation things are different.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gnomefromnome 12/30/17 4:52:05 PM #19:	hyperpowder posted... MabusIncarnate posted... What do you propose? It's a very simple solution, get rid of "probable cause". Have cops actually do some policing, get evidence, then execute warrents. Don't just bust into peoples house because somebody said something over the phone. If a gunman has someone at gun point, there isnt time for warrants. --- Oh my God... That was the dumbest collection of dumbosity I've ever seen! - Famine https://youtu.be/pOtTxMC1ZZQ <cite>gnomefromnome posted [p:893135311] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>hyperpowder posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MabusIncarnate posted...</cite> <quote>What do you propose?</quote> It's a very simple solution, get rid of "probable cause". Have cops actually do some policing, get evidence, then execute warrents. Don't just bust into peoples house because somebody said something over the phone.</quote> If a gunman has someone at gun point, there isnt time for warrants.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 12/30/17 4:52:31 PM #20:	MabusIncarnate posted... What do you propose? We obviously can't do without law enforcement. Maybe the training can be revised, i'm sure there are different programs for the areas they are policing as well. Obviously training to work in a city like Chicago or LA is going to be a lot different than a small town in North Dakota or somewhere with a very low crime rate. I feel like it's very different to discuss it as an outsider looking in opposed to being in an actual situation like that yourself and reacting. It is different. I'm an EMT, not a cop, but I am acutely aware of how stressful it is to head to a call with only the information that dispatch tells you. Dispatch typically operates with very limited information (which may be correct or it may be completely different) and when you arrive on scene, you have a small amount of time to take in everything at a scene. If a cop is called somewhere with reports of an armed suspect, or worse, an active shooter; even if there are no firearms on the premises, I cannot blame an officer for opening fire when a confused individual reaches for any place that a gun is typically concealed. I would never expect them to wait until the firearm is produced and ready to end their life at the pull of a trigger. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:893135333] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>MabusIncarnate posted...</cite> <quote>What do you propose? We obviously can't do without law enforcement. Maybe the training can be revised, i'm sure there are different programs for the areas they are policing as well. Obviously training to work in a city like Chicago or LA is going to be a lot different than a small town in North Dakota or somewhere with a very low crime rate. I feel like it's very different to discuss it as an outsider looking in opposed to being in an actual situation like that yourself and reacting.</quote> It is different. I'm an EMT, not a cop, but I am acutely aware of how stressful it is to head to a call with only the information that dispatch tells you. Dispatch typically operates with very limited information (which may be correct or it may be completely different) and when you arrive on scene, you have a small amount of time to take in everything at a scene. If a cop is called somewhere with reports of an armed suspect, or worse, an active shooter; even if there are no firearms on the premises, I cannot blame an officer for opening fire when a confused individual reaches for any place that a gun is typically concealed. I would never expect them to wait until the firearm is produced and ready to end their life at the pull of a trigger.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/30/17 4:52:55 PM #21:	DeanAuryn posted... police told the guy to put his hands up but he refused I don't think he was refusing. he was confused. the whole thing lasted like 3 seconds. it was a twitch <cite>Zikten posted [p:893135355] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>DeanAuryn posted...</cite> <quote>police told the guy to put his hands up but he refused</quote> I don't think he was refusing. he was confused. the whole thing lasted like 3 seconds. it was a twitch</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wishy 12/30/17 4:53:33 PM #22:	We should honestly just let people opt out of police protection. When a dispatcher gets a call from them they just hang up. --- ~Dr. Fishystick\| Welcome Back. http://i.imgur.com/z50xS2H.jpg <cite>Wishy posted [p:893135379] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote>We should honestly just let people opt out of police protection. When a dispatcher gets a call from them they just hang up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Near_ 12/30/17 4:53:42 PM #23:	ThePrinceFish posted... I would never expect them to wait until the firearm is produced and ready to end their life at the pull of a trigger. how about until you see it --- https://i.imgur.com/WyFIJkF.gif This is America, where a lying, cheating degenerate can prosper. <cite>_Near_ posted [p:893135387] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote> I would never expect them to wait until the firearm is produced and ready to end their life at the pull of a trigger.</quote> how about until you see it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/30/17 4:53:47 PM #24:	ThePrinceFish posted... MabusIncarnate posted... What do you propose? We obviously can't do without law enforcement. Maybe the training can be revised, i'm sure there are different programs for the areas they are policing as well. Obviously training to work in a city like Chicago or LA is going to be a lot different than a small town in North Dakota or somewhere with a very low crime rate. I feel like it's very different to discuss it as an outsider looking in opposed to being in an actual situation like that yourself and reacting. It is different. I'm an EMT, not a cop, but I am acutely aware of how stressful it is to head to a call with only the information that dispatch tells you. Dispatch typically operates with very limited information (which may be correct or it may be completely different) and when you arrive on scene, you have a small amount of time to take in everything at a scene. If a cop is called somewhere with reports of an armed suspect, or worse, an active shooter; even if there are no firearms on the premises, I cannot blame an officer for opening fire when a confused individual reaches for any place that a gun is typically concealed. I would never expect them to wait until the firearm is produced and ready to end their life at the pull of a trigger. but you don't see the unfairness in that? people die for no reason just cause a cop got scared and freaked out <cite>Zikten posted [p:893135390] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MabusIncarnate posted...</cite> <quote>What do you propose? We obviously can't do without law enforcement. Maybe the training can be revised, i'm sure there are different programs for the areas they are policing as well. Obviously training to work in a city like Chicago or LA is going to be a lot different than a small town in North Dakota or somewhere with a very low crime rate. I feel like it's very different to discuss it as an outsider looking in opposed to being in an actual situation like that yourself and reacting.</quote> It is different. I'm an EMT, not a cop, but I am acutely aware of how stressful it is to head to a call with only the information that dispatch tells you. Dispatch typically operates with very limited information (which may be correct or it may be completely different) and when you arrive on scene, you have a small amount of time to take in everything at a scene. If a cop is called somewhere with reports of an armed suspect, or worse, an active shooter; even if there are no firearms on the premises, I cannot blame an officer for opening fire when a confused individual reaches for any place that a gun is typically concealed. I would never expect them to wait until the firearm is produced and ready to end their life at the pull of a trigger.</quote> but you don't see the unfairness in that? people die for no reason just cause a cop got scared and freaked out</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wishy 12/30/17 4:54:54 PM #25:	Zikten posted... but you don't see the unfairness in that? people die for no reason just cause a cop got scared and freaked out what's your solution? to wait until his partner is on the ground bleeding to death to shoot back? --- ~Dr. Fishystick\| Welcome Back. http://i.imgur.com/z50xS2H.jpg <cite>Wishy posted [p:893135438] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>but you don't see the unfairness in that? people die for no reason just cause a cop got scared and freaked out</quote> what's your solution? to wait until his partner is on the ground bleeding to death to shoot back?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Offworlder1 12/30/17 4:56:22 PM #26:	The kid that got murdered in the hotel was a drunk kid, the dude was confused by the asshole screaming shit at him and the contridicting instructions along with saying any mistake is a reason to use lethal force against him. The cop who murdered that boy was looking for any excuse to kill anyone and got it with this drunk kid. --- "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" <cite>Offworlder1 posted [p:893135490] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote>The kid that got murdered in the hotel was a drunk kid, the dude was confused by the asshole screaming shit at him and the contridicting instructions along with saying any mistake is a reason to use lethal force against him. The cop who murdered that boy was looking for any excuse to kill anyone and got it with this drunk kid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/30/17 4:57:04 PM #27:	Wishy posted... what's your solution? to wait until his partner is on the ground bleeding to death to shoot back? the solution is to give the same training that british cops get. british cops don't kill people nearly as often <cite>Zikten posted [p:893135523] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>Wishy posted...</cite> <quote>what's your solution? to wait until his partner is on the ground bleeding to death to shoot back?</quote> the solution is to give the same training that british cops get. british cops don't kill people nearly as often</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hyperpowder 12/30/17 4:57:06 PM #28:	gnomefromnome posted... hyperpowder posted... MabusIncarnate posted... What do you propose? It's a very simple solution, get rid of "probable cause". Have cops actually do some policing, get evidence, then execute warrents. Don't just bust into peoples house because somebody said something over the phone. If a gunman has someone at gun point, there isnt time for warrants. What's funny is most police would actually be cautious in that situation. Not busting in the door guns blazing. --- Whoever beats my score I will give them a $10 PSN or Live card: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpiorAx40GY <cite>hyperpowder posted [p:893135527] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>gnomefromnome posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hyperpowder posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MabusIncarnate posted...</cite> <quote>What do you propose?</quote> It's a very simple solution, get rid of "probable cause". Have cops actually do some policing, get evidence, then execute warrents. Don't just bust into peoples house because somebody said something over the phone.</quote> If a gunman has someone at gun point, there isnt time for warrants.</quote> What's funny is most police would actually be cautious in that situation. Not busting in the door guns blazing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Goggalor_ 12/30/17 4:57:52 PM #29:	Offworlder1 posted... The kid that got murdered in the hotel was a drunk kid, the dude was confused by the asshole screaming shit at him and the contridicting instructions. This. I saw the video, it was 100% b.s. --- Now playing: Destroy All Humans 2 <cite>_Goggalor_ posted [p:893135563] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>Offworlder1 posted...</cite> <quote>The kid that got murdered in the hotel was a drunk kid, the dude was confused by the asshole screaming shit at him and the contridicting instructions.</quote> This. I saw the video, it was 100% b.s.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 12/30/17 4:58:06 PM #30:	hyperpowder posted... MabusIncarnate posted... What do you propose? It's a very simple solution, get rid of "probable cause". Have cops actually do some policing, get evidence, then execute warrents. Don't just bust into peoples house because somebody said something over the phone. This makes zero sense. Do you know how much goes into actually getting a warrant? What you are saying is, if there is a bank robbery in progress with armed men holding hostages, the police should first need to go out to investigate, confirm the situation, gather evidence, then go back to the station, do all the paperwork, and wait for approval on a warrant to move forward a few days later? That's brilliant, real simple solution. The hostages can just stand by for a few days. --- Ten million dollars on a losing campaign Twenty million starving and writhing in pain <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:893135571] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>hyperpowder posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MabusIncarnate posted...</cite> <quote>What do you propose?</quote> It's a very simple solution, get rid of "probable cause". Have cops actually do some policing, get evidence, then execute warrents. Don't just bust into peoples house because somebody said something over the phone.</quote> This makes zero sense. Do you know how much goes into actually getting a warrant? What you are saying is, if there is a bank robbery in progress with armed men holding hostages, the police should first need to go out to investigate, confirm the situation, gather evidence, then go back to the station, do all the paperwork, and wait for approval on a warrant to move forward a few days later? That's brilliant, real simple solution. The hostages can just stand by for a few days.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wishy 12/30/17 4:58:16 PM #31:	Zikten posted... the solution is to give the same training that british cops get. british cops don't kill people nearly as often i don't even know where to start here --- ~Dr. Fishystick\| Welcome Back. http://i.imgur.com/z50xS2H.jpg <cite>Wishy posted [p:893135573] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>the solution is to give the same training that british cops get. british cops don't kill people nearly as often</quote> i don't even know where to start here</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_OujiDoza_ 12/30/17 4:59:26 PM #32:	Wishy posted... We should honestly just let people opt out of police protection. When a dispatcher gets a call from them they just hang up. We keep getting dumber by the day... --- R.I.P. Bilbo-Swaggins: Victim of the CommunistFAQS Regime \|Brian-Dawkins\|http://i.imgtc.com/5yil6xS.jpg. <cite>_OujiDoza_ posted [p:893135619] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>Wishy posted...</cite> <quote>We should honestly just let people opt out of police protection. When a dispatcher gets a call from them they just hang up.</quote> We keep getting dumber by the day...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 12/30/17 5:01:18 PM #33:	Zikten posted... Wishy posted... what's your solution? to wait until his partner is on the ground bleeding to death to shoot back? the solution is to give the same training that british cops get. british cops don't kill people nearly as often Compare the crime rate and population of both countries though, you really can't stack them up side by side like that without factoring in that information. --- Ten million dollars on a losing campaign Twenty million starving and writhing in pain <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:893135716] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Wishy posted...</cite> <quote>what's your solution? to wait until his partner is on the ground bleeding to death to shoot back?</quote> the solution is to give the same training that british cops get. british cops don't kill people nearly as often</quote> Compare the crime rate and population of both countries though, you really can't stack them up side by side like that without factoring in that information.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wishy 12/30/17 5:05:26 PM #34:	_OujiDoza_ posted... We keep getting dumber by the day... All cops are pigs and trash until you need them huh. --- ~Dr. Fishystick\| Welcome Back. http://i.imgur.com/z50xS2H.jpg <cite>Wishy posted [p:893135918] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>_OujiDoza_ posted...</cite> <quote>We keep getting dumber by the day...</quote> All cops are pigs and trash until you need them huh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Offworlder1 12/30/17 5:05:45 PM #35:	@_Goggalor_ I work armed security and that video pissed everyone off at my job, there were atleast 2 maybe 3 cops and all of them fucked up big time. The way they treated the situation was way to hostile, they FAILED to assess the situation as they saw it on scene, and made the drunk boy jump through way more hoops then the girl. The way they acted was as if these drunk kids were hardcore gangbangers, gang members, cartel, bikers or some group that actively resists arrest and are likely armed. The only damage the drunk boy could do is puke on the floor, or uniform of the police. --- "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" <cite>Offworlder1 posted [p:893135937] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote>@_Goggalor_ I work armed security and that video pissed everyone off at my job, there were atleast 2 maybe 3 cops and all of them fucked up big time. The way they treated the situation was way to hostile, they FAILED to assess the situation as they saw it on scene, and made the drunk boy jump through way more hoops then the girl. The way they acted was as if these drunk kids were hardcore gangbangers, gang members, cartel, bikers or some group that actively resists arrest and are likely armed. The only damage the drunk boy could do is puke on the floor, or uniform of the police.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Goggalor_ 12/30/17 5:06:51 PM #36:	Wishy posted... _OujiDoza_ posted... We keep getting dumber by the day... All cops are pigs and trash until you need them huh. Pretty much. "Cops are worthless trash!" burglar breaks in in the middle of the night "911! Send police!" --- Now playing: Destroy All Humans 2 <cite>_Goggalor_ posted [p:893135992] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>Wishy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_OujiDoza_ posted...</cite> <quote>We keep getting dumber by the day...</quote> All cops are pigs and trash until you need them huh.</quote> Pretty much. "Cops are worthless trash!" burglar breaks in in the middle of the night "911! Send police!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Goggalor_ 12/30/17 5:07:56 PM #37:	Offworlder1 posted... @_Goggalor_ I work armed security and that video pissed everyone off at my job, there were atleast 2 maybe 3 cops and all of them fucked up big time. The way they treated the situation was way to hostile, they FAILED to assess the situation as they saw it on scene, and made the deunk boy jump through way more hoops then the girl. The way they acted was as if these drunk kids were hardcore gangbangers, gang members, cartel, bikers or some group that actively resists arrest and are likely armed. The only damage the drunk boy could do is puke on the floor, or uniform of the police. Seriously. Dude was so clearly just pulling his pants up there's no doubt the shooting was reactionary and unnecessary. --- Now playing: Destroy All Humans 2 <cite>_Goggalor_ posted [p:893136053] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>Offworlder1 posted...</cite> <quote>@_Goggalor_ I work armed security and that video pissed everyone off at my job, there were atleast 2 maybe 3 cops and all of them fucked up big time. The way they treated the situation was way to hostile, they FAILED to assess the situation as they saw it on scene, and made the deunk boy jump through way more hoops then the girl. The way they acted was as if these drunk kids were hardcore gangbangers, gang members, cartel, bikers or some group that actively resists arrest and are likely armed. The only damage the drunk boy could do is puke on the floor, or uniform of the police.</quote> Seriously. Dude was so clearly just pulling his pants up there's no doubt the shooting was reactionary and unnecessary.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Offworlder1 12/30/17 5:15:30 PM #38:	If anyone at my job did any of that they would be not only in jail but someone would have knocked their crazy ass out or shot them. There are so many drunk people we get that literally just need a gentle push in the right direction be it the casino, or the courthouse. The only times we have needed to be hard on drunks is when they dont want to leave at closing time but never to the extent of physically harming them. I can count on one hand the number of times we had a violent drunk person to deal with. --- "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" <cite>Offworlder1 posted [p:893136464] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote>If anyone at my job did any of that they would be not only in jail but someone would have knocked their crazy ass out or shot them. There are so many drunk people we get that literally just need a gentle push in the right direction be it the casino, or the courthouse. The only times we have needed to be hard on drunks is when they dont want to leave at closing time but never to the extent of physically harming them. I can count on one hand the number of times we had a violent drunk person to deal with.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Goggalor_ 12/30/17 5:18:28 PM #39:	Offworlder1 posted... If anyone at my job did any of that they would be not only in jail but someone would have knocked their crazy ass out or shot them. There are so many drunk people we get that literally just need a gentle push in the right direction be it the casino, or the courthouse. The only times we have needed to be hard on drunks is when they dont want to leave at closing time but never to the extent of physically harming them. I can count on one hand the number of times we had a violent drunk person to deal with. A sober, fit officer vs. an overweight drunk dude...crawling on the floor. And yet the dude acted like they were in a war zone. Not just the shooter but the officer screaming commands. --- Now playing: Destroy All Humans 2 <cite>_Goggalor_ posted [p:893136612] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>Offworlder1 posted...</cite> <quote>If anyone at my job did any of that they would be not only in jail but someone would have knocked their crazy ass out or shot them. There are so many drunk people we get that literally just need a gentle push in the right direction be it the casino, or the courthouse. The only times we have needed to be hard on drunks is when they dont want to leave at closing time but never to the extent of physically harming them. I can count on one hand the number of times we had a violent drunk person to deal with.</quote> A sober, fit officer vs. an overweight drunk dude...crawling on the floor. And yet the dude acted like they were in a war zone. Not just the shooter but the officer screaming commands.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Offworlder1 12/30/17 5:25:47 PM #40:	Even in a war zone that is not how you always act, all the shouting and screaming just makes everyone nervous and on edge. If a person cant assesss the situation they do not belong in that high stress job. I know from experience that esculation is the wrong way to handle most situations unless you want to have a violent outcome. --- "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" <cite>Offworlder1 posted [p:893136996] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote>Even in a war zone that is not how you always act, all the shouting and screaming just makes everyone nervous and on edge. If a person cant assesss the situation they do not belong in that high stress job. I know from experience that esculation is the wrong way to handle most situations unless you want to have a violent outcome.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_SilverX 12/30/17 5:28:37 PM #41:	Thats why you put your hands in the air and say just man handle me please --- cuckle doodle dooo!!! <cite>Dark_SilverX posted [p:893137123] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote>Thats why you put your hands in the air and say just man handle me please</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Goggalor_ 12/30/17 5:28:52 PM #42:	Offworlder1 posted... Even in a war zone that is not how you always act, all the shouting and screaming just makes everyone nervous and on edge. If a person cant assesss the situation they do not belong in that high stress job. I know from experience that esculation is the wrong way to handle most situations unless you want to have a violent outcome. Pretty much. The more you scream and threaten the more worked up a suspect is likely to be. Basic logic. --- Now playing: Destroy All Humans 2 <cite>_Goggalor_ posted [p:893137134] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>Offworlder1 posted...</cite> <quote>Even in a war zone that is not how you always act, all the shouting and screaming just makes everyone nervous and on edge. If a person cant assesss the situation they do not belong in that high stress job. I know from experience that esculation is the wrong way to handle most situations unless you want to have a violent outcome.</quote> Pretty much. The more you scream and threaten the more worked up a suspect is likely to be. Basic logic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Patchwork 12/30/17 5:38:10 PM #43:	hyperpowder posted... MabusIncarnate posted... What do you propose? It's a very simple solution, get rid of "probable cause". Have cops actually do some policing, get evidence, then execute warrents. Don't just bust into peoples house because somebody said something over the phone. The hilarious part is that you need probable cause to get a warrant, and you can't just "bust into people's house." --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. <cite>Patchwork posted [p:893137559] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>hyperpowder posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MabusIncarnate posted...</cite> <quote>What do you propose?</quote> It's a very simple solution, get rid of "probable cause". Have cops actually do some policing, get evidence, then execute warrents. Don't just bust into peoples house because somebody said something over the phone.</quote> The hilarious part is that you need probable cause to get a warrant, and you can't just "bust into people's house."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 12/30/17 5:45:30 PM #44:	The OP has a point that many people are not really addressing. People make comments like cops just want to go home and stuff like that. However the unarmed person that cop shots just wanted to go home in many situations. Yet he can just be blown away just cause. _Goggalor_ posted... This. I saw the video, it was 100% b.s. Now this one you take issue with. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:893137909] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote>The OP has a point that many people are not really addressing. People make comments like cops just want to go home and stuff like that. However the unarmed person that cop shots just wanted to go home in many situations. Yet he can just be blown away just cause. <cite>_Goggalor_ posted...</cite> <quote> This. I saw the video, it was 100% b.s.</quote> Now this one you take issue with.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 12/30/17 5:51:06 PM #45:	Patchwork posted... The hilarious part is that you need probable cause to get a warrant, and you can't just "bust into people's house. http://kdhnews.com/news/crime/marvin-guy-case-gets-national-attention/article_cd61ed8e-0de5-11e7-b29e-8f901d3c8115.html --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:893138209] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>Patchwork posted...</cite> <quote> The hilarious part is that you need probable cause to get a warrant, and you can't just "bust into people's house.</quote> http://kdhnews.com/news/crime/marvin-guy-case-gets-national-attention/article_cd61ed8e-0de5-11e7-b29e-8f901d3c8115.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/30/17 5:55:44 PM #46:	^^^ that story about the baby in it's crib pisses me off still. I remember that case. the cops aren't even sorry. I think the baby was blinded or has a mutilated face now or something. it's fucked up <cite>Zikten posted [p:893138440] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote>^^^ that story about the baby in it's crib pisses me off still. I remember that case. the cops aren't even sorry. I think the baby was blinded or has a mutilated face now or something. it's fucked up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wishy 12/30/17 6:03:54 PM #47:	cjsdowg posted... The OP has a point that many people are not really addressing. People make comments like cops just want to go home and stuff like that. However the unarmed person that cop shots just wanted to go home in many situations. Yet he can just be blown away just cause. Every cop just wants to go home, not every civilian does. Suicide by cop is a term for a reason. --- ~Dr. Fishystick\| Welcome Back. http://i.imgur.com/z50xS2H.jpg <cite>Wishy posted [p:893138860] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote><cite>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote>The OP has a point that many people are not really addressing. People make comments like cops just want to go home and stuff like that. However the unarmed person that cop shots just wanted to go home in many situations. Yet he can just be blown away just cause.</quote> Every cop just wants to go home, not every civilian does. Suicide by cop is a term for a reason.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/30/17 6:05:28 PM #48:	so because some people choose to die, that makes it ok to blow away random citizens? <cite>Zikten posted [p:893138955] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote>so because some people choose to die, that makes it ok to blow away random citizens?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wishy 12/30/17 6:28:41 PM #49:	I didn't realize cops sign up to die? --- ~Dr. Fishystick\| Welcome Back. http://i.imgur.com/z50xS2H.jpg <cite>Wishy posted [p:893140254] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote>I didn't realize cops sign up to die?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/30/17 6:29:46 PM #50:	im talking about the civilians. you are saying it's ok to kill people because some small percentage likes to do suicide by cop. the cops really are a gang and they hate us. they protect their own, and to hell with anyone not in the gang <cite>Zikten posted [p:893140317] in i'm sorry ... [t:76152091]...</cite> <quote>im talking about the civilians. you are saying it's ok to kill people because some small percentage likes to do suicide by cop. the cops really are a gang and they hate us. they protect their own, and to hell with anyone not in the gang</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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