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Romulox28
11/13/17 4:08:44 PM
#1:


they milk the shit out of every other one of their games but youd think they would have made super mario rpg 2 or threw geno in a game or something
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Yaridovich
11/13/17 4:09:18 PM
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All the original characters, like Geno and Mallow, are property of Square and not Nintendo.
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Romulox28
11/13/17 4:10:46 PM
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Yaridovich posted...
All the original characters, like Geno and Mallow, are property of Square and not Nintendo.

seeing your username on CE inspired me to make this topic
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slothica
11/13/17 4:11:22 PM
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Why does Gamefreak ignore Colosseum and XD?
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Giant_Aspirin
11/13/17 4:11:34 PM
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it somehow evolved into Super Mario Sticker Star
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ManLink4321
11/13/17 4:11:45 PM
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tc is bad and should feel bad.
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pegusus123456
11/13/17 4:12:35 PM
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ManLink4321 posted...
tc is bad and should feel bad.

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Dustin1280
11/13/17 4:12:49 PM
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TC just makes me miss Super Mario RPG and what it has become...
I spit on paper mario
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MC_BatCommander
11/13/17 4:13:43 PM
#10:


Dustin1280 posted...
TC just makes me miss Super Mario RPG and what it has become...
I spit on paper mario


IMO Paper Mario 1 and 2 were both fantastic, I enjoyed them more than SMRPG.

Shame Nintendo decided PM is a series it has to ruin, cause fuck those last two games are bad
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Romulox28
11/13/17 4:14:25 PM
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Dustin1280 posted...
TC just makes me miss Super Mario RPG and what it has become...
I spit on paper mario

TTYD was good
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ManLink4321
11/13/17 4:15:42 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
Dustin1280 posted...
TC just makes me miss Super Mario RPG and what it has become...
I spit on paper mario


IMO Paper Mario 1 and 2 were both fantastic, I enjoyed them more than SMRPG.

Shame Nintendo decided PM is a series it has to ruin, cause fuck those last two games are bad


Paper Jam was bad?
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MC_BatCommander
11/13/17 4:20:19 PM
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ManLink4321 posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Dustin1280 posted...
TC just makes me miss Super Mario RPG and what it has become...
I spit on paper mario


IMO Paper Mario 1 and 2 were both fantastic, I enjoyed them more than SMRPG.

Shame Nintendo decided PM is a series it has to ruin, cause fuck those last two games are bad


Paper Jam was bad?


Paper Jam is quite a bit different from the regular PM formula since it's a Mario & Luigi game. That said, I didn't enjoy it much.
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ManLink4321
11/13/17 4:25:22 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
ManLink4321 posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Dustin1280 posted...
TC just makes me miss Super Mario RPG and what it has become...
I spit on paper mario


IMO Paper Mario 1 and 2 were both fantastic, I enjoyed them more than SMRPG.

Shame Nintendo decided PM is a series it has to ruin, cause fuck those last two games are bad


Paper Jam was bad?


Paper Jam is quite a bit different from the regular PM formula since it's a Mario & Luigi game. That said, I didn't enjoy it much.


Maybe you should fight the final boss first in this great game before you don't enjoy a good game.
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Solar_Crimson
11/13/17 4:27:09 PM
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Paper Mario started development as "Super Mario RPG 2", before it was changed.

Super Mario RPG as well as its original characters (Mallow, Geno, Smithy, etc.) are owned by Square-Enix, so Nintendo would have to approach Square if they wanted to do something with it.
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Dustin1280
11/13/17 4:28:13 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Paper Mario started development as "Super Mario RPG 2", before it was changed.

Super Mario RPG as well as its original characters (Mallow, Geno, Smithy, etc.) are owned by Square-Enix, so Nintendo would have to approach Square if they wanted to do something with it.

That is the reason I hate the Paper Mario series as a whole..

It killed any chance we had of getting another SMRPG.
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DK9292
11/13/17 4:28:29 PM
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Serious comment for Super Mario RPG fans: if SE and Nintendo worked together again, what would you like to see in Super Mario RPG 2 that Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi don't already cover?
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DK9292
11/13/17 4:30:17 PM
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Godnorgosh posted...
The fact that it's on the SNES Classic means Nintendo recognizes its significance. Hopefully they do the next cool thing and don't make the next Paper Mario a complete and utter trainwreck.

So long as they keep using the Sticker Star formula, that's a pipe dream I'm afraid.

And they've confirmed they're not going back to the original formula any time soon. :(
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Dustin1280
11/13/17 4:31:24 PM
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DK9292 posted...
Serious comment for Super Mario RPG fans: if SE and Nintendo worked together again, what would you like to see in Super Mario RPG 2 that Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi don't already cover?

How bout actual equipable gear in multiple slots, not just badges, hats, and/or stickers.
Or more then two "party members."
Or Actual stats
Or a real spell list unique to each character...
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DK9292
11/13/17 4:32:33 PM
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Dustin1280 posted...
DK9292 posted...
Serious comment for Super Mario RPG fans: if SE and Nintendo worked together again, what would you like to see in Super Mario RPG 2 that Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi don't already cover?

How bout actual equipable gear in multiple slots, not just badges, hats, and/or stickers.
Or more then two "party members."
Or Actual stats
Or a real spell list unique to each character...

You seem to have missed the point of my question, considering those are things SMRPG1 already has and would be considered a given in SMRPG2.
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Dustin1280
11/13/17 4:33:54 PM
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DK9292 posted...
You seem to have missed the point of my question, considering those are things SMRPG1 already has and would be considered a given in SMRPG2.

That's not what you said...

DK9292 posted...
Serious comment for Super Mario RPG fans: if SE and Nintendo worked together again, what would you like to see in Super Mario RPG 2 that Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi don't already cover?


They don't cover any of those things...

If those were actually a given, then I would be on board. Even if they called it paper mario <insert subtitle here>
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Second_Chances
11/13/17 4:34:38 PM
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it wasn't that great

reminder that Nintendo deciding that Mario & Luigi RPG should be THE Mario RPG was a mistake, because that series has never topped the original game, while TTYD was at least an overall match-up to the original Paper Mario and its formula allowed for a lot more variety in the future, and AlphaDream could instead be making new IPs like they used to do before they got put on eternal M&L duty
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MC_BatCommander
11/13/17 4:35:40 PM
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Dustin1280 posted...
How bout actual equipable gear in multiple slots, not just badges, hats, and/or stickers.
Or more then two "party members."
Or Actual stats
Or a real spell list unique to each character...


I mean with the exception of "more than two party members" the M&L games will scratch pretty much all of those itches. And even then you play more characters than just Mario and Luigi in like 3/5 M&L games.
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DK9292
11/13/17 4:36:09 PM
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Dustin1280 posted...
DK9292 posted...
You seem to have missed the point of my question, considering those are things SMRPG1 already has and would be considered a given in SMRPG2.

That's not what you said...

DK9292 posted...
Serious comment for Super Mario RPG fans: if SE and Nintendo worked together again, what would you like to see in Super Mario RPG 2 that Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi don't already cover?


They don't cover any of those things...

If those were actually a given, then I would be on board.

I'm getting the feeling you're looking for an argument, when I want a legit discussion.

I want a Super Mario RPG 2 too dude, but I want it to be its own thing just like PM and M&L.
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Dustin1280
11/13/17 4:36:37 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
Dustin1280 posted...
How bout actual equipable gear in multiple slots, not just badges, hats, and/or stickers.
Or more then two "party members."
Or Actual stats
Or a real spell list unique to each character...


I mean with the exception of "more than two party members" the M&L games will scratch pretty much all of those itches. And even then you play more characters than just Mario and Luigi in like 3/5 M&L games.

They really do not though. They are weird hybrid systems that are inferior IMO.

I have no idea how you can say M&L games actually have anything like the things I mentioned...
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Dustin1280
11/13/17 4:38:14 PM
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DK9292 posted...
I'm getting the feeling you're looking for an argument, when I want a legit discussion.

I want a Super Mario RPG 2 too dude, but I want it to be its own thing just like PM and M&L.


That wasn't actually my intent. It can be it's own thing, I just don't want it to have whatever the hell the mario and luigi games have twisted the original SMRPG into.
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Romulox28
11/13/17 4:39:07 PM
#28:


alright nerds, simmer down
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EvalAngell
11/13/17 4:39:24 PM
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The ignore it because it wouldn't sell in this day and age. Kids today have attention spans that are too short and wouldn't dedicate any time and effort into seeing the game through. Or appreciating all the little easter eggs and completing the random quests. Mario games have sadly become bobo, herp derp games.
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MC_BatCommander
11/13/17 4:40:03 PM
#30:


Dustin1280 posted...
They really do not though. They are weird hybrid systems that are inferior IMO.


That sounds more like a personal problem then, the games offer everything SMRPG does and an SMRPG2 would no doubt borrow heavily from them.

Besides, modern Squaresoft can't make a game worth shit anyways. If they tried it would likely be a disaster.
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CapnMuffin
11/13/17 4:40:27 PM
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M&L games are pretty much Mario RPG but not isometric.
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DK9292
11/13/17 4:40:27 PM
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Dustin1280 posted...
DK9292 posted...
I'm getting the feeling you're looking for an argument, when I want a legit discussion.

I want a Super Mario RPG 2 too dude, but I want it to be its own thing just like PM and M&L.


That wasn't actually my intent. It can be it's own thing, I just don't want it to have whatever the hell the mario and luigi games have twisted the original SMRPG into.

Which is exactly what I was asking.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
11/13/17 4:45:07 PM
#33:


DK9292 posted...
Serious comment for Super Mario RPG fans: if SE and Nintendo worked together again, what would you like to see in Super Mario RPG 2 that Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi don't already cover?


A blue axem ranger
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Questionmarktarius
11/13/17 4:47:17 PM
#34:


MC_BatCommander posted...
Besides, modern Squaresoft can't make a game worth shit anyways. If they tried it would likely be a disaster.

Octopath Traveler demo is better than most full RPGs nowadays.
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ManLink4321
11/13/17 4:59:15 PM
#35:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
DK9292 posted...
Serious comment for Super Mario RPG fans: if SE and Nintendo worked together again, what would you like to see in Super Mario RPG 2 that Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi don't already cover?


A blue axem ranger


Or a blue goomba.
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Dustin1280
11/13/17 5:09:55 PM
#36:


In M&L's defense. As of the fourth game they finally did fix some of the concerns I had with it by adding:
Real Gear
The spell list they have while better then it's predecessors still is strictly damage spells, no healing or support or anything...

They still insist on the two party system (+ gimmick) which I dislike.
They don't have MATK/MDef etc... because everything was simplified.

As for a real Mario RPG 2 I would be open to whatever they wanted as long as it felt more like an rpg again and less like some weird hybrid of paper mario and M&L
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mehmeh1
11/13/17 5:11:35 PM
#37:


slothica posted...
Why does Gamefreak ignore Colosseum and XD?

genious sonority made those games
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