Current Events > They need to make this movie to explain the dangers of time travel

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Make a movie about a guy who kills Hitler to prevent WW2 and have the war still happen but the Axis wins and the future is destroyed cause of one man's mistake. Too many people think it's ok to change history or that killing Hitler would solve anything. This movie would teach them

the twilight zone had a cool episode like this
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To be fair though, we also don't know if killing Hitler would be like the best thing to ever happen.

Also, we don't really need a movie about the dangers of time travel since 1) it's not even possible, 2) there are multiple theories on how it'd work if it could happen, and 3) the people that think killing Hitler would solve anything also do not have ways to time travel.
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Is this some sort of weird fantasy of yours tc
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the aesop "don't mess with the past" is pointless since time travel is impossible
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The best thing to do if you can go back to Hitler's birth is to make sure he fails art school and becomes a dictator.

Kill him and who knows how many people would just simply cease to exist.
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Master Kazuya posted...

To be fair though, we also don't know if killing Hitler would be like the best thing to ever happen.

Also, we don't really need a movie about the dangers of time travel since 1) it's not even possible, 2) there are multiple theories on how it'd work, and 3) the people that think killing Hitler would solve anything also do not have ways to time travel.

We can predict the effects of Hitler being killed. The war would still happen. The leadup to it was set even before Hitler took power. Someone else could do the same thing. Hitler is just the one that got the reigns at that time but he isn't unique. The best real way to prevent WW2 would be to prevent WW1. Or change how Germany was treated when it ended. Also, Hitler was very stupid. We were lucky to have him in charge of Germany. We probably only won because of Hitler's mistakes

itachi15243 posted...

Is this some sort of weird fantasy of yours tc

This
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itachi15243 posted...

Is this some sort of weird fantasy of yours tc

Yes. I have a fantasy of living in a world where people don't say they would kill Hitler with a time machine. It's one of my pet peeves when people say that

Zikten posted...

itachi15243 posted...

Is this some sort of weird fantasy of yours tc

Yes. I have a fantasy of living in a world where people don't say they would kill Hitler with a time machine. It's one of my pet peeves when people say that

Interesting
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What if instead of killing Hitler someone goes back to fix his dick?
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There are no dangers of time travel since time travel doesn't exist
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Why does the "going back in time and killing Hitler" thing always have to result in something bad happening?
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Kitt posted...

Why does the "going back in time and killing Hitler" thing always have to result in something bad happening?

because it changes history. changing history is dangerous

Actually, I there are special cases in general relativity where "Closed Timelike Curves" are theoretically possible, which I think roughly equates to time travel.

But one of the top thinkers on that insists that you couldn't use them the traditional sci-fi way. The possible uses are more about an iterative process and making use of "time travel" to generate the result in a single iteration, which is also an interestimg idea.
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Are you really still upset over that poll topic asking if people would rather prevent Hitler's birth or Trump becoming president?
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Tmaster148 posted...

Are you really still upset over that poll topic asking if people would rather prevent Hitler's birth or Trump becoming president?

yes because it was full of fools. according that poll most people would kill hitler, which could destroy the world. ever notice it's only casuals that talk about killing hitler? anyone who actually understands time travel knows not to do it. that's why there is an actual rule about banning the killing of hitler if anyone ever time travels.

IIRC this is pretty much the plot of Command and Conquer Red Alert.
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Zikten posted...

Tmaster148 posted...

Are you really still upset over that poll topic asking if people would rather prevent Hitler's birth or Trump becoming president?

yes because it was full of fools. according that poll most people would kill hitler, which could destroy the world. ever notice it's only casuals that talk about killing hitler? anyone who actually understands time travel knows not to do it. that's why there is an actual rule about banning the killing of hitler if anyone ever time travels.

Just get over it. Crying about a topic that happened over a week ago is pointless.
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Zikten posted...

Kitt posted...

Why does the "going back in time and killing Hitler" thing always have to result in something bad happening?

because it changes history. changing history is dangerous

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ReeNoiP posted...

IIRC this is pretty much the plot of Command and Conquer Red Alert.

yes but in my movie, it wouldn't be about righting the soviets. I would have Germany still rise and lead the axis. it would just be a different leader than Hitler. to show that Germany was always going to do this. and that hitler wasn't the catalyst like people think

Zikten posted...

Tmaster148 posted...

Are you really still upset over that poll topic asking if people would rather prevent Hitler's birth or Trump becoming president?

yes because it was full of fools.

Look who's talking
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Tmaster148 posted...

Just get over it. Crying about a topic that happened over a week ago is pointless.

it's not just about that topic. this is a pet peeve I have had my entire life.

Few stories about time travel don't act like there's no danger or unforeseen possibilities. It's rarer to see one that has time travel as somehow perfectly safe.

Though the specific idea is a decent one, even fairly plausible. On one side Hitler was a catalyst for a lot of civil unrest that would have blown up over something, and on the other, was possessed of ...let's say eccentricities not helpful to the war effort. Hitler just did so much bad it's hard to imagine he might have been the lessor of 2 evils. Or more likely, people don't see the whole puzzle and think it's that one bad piece.

It's the idea that makes me miss the first 2 seasons of Sliders.
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TC you get way too offended by the idea of hitler being killed
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Kaname_Madoka posted...

TC you get way too offended by the idea of hitler being killed

if you understood history you would be too. if hitler was killed, we would probably all be speaking German right now

Zikten posted...

Kaname_Madoka posted...

TC you get way too offended by the idea of hitler being killed

if you understood history you would be too. if hitler was killed, we would probably all be speaking German right now

So you wish Hitler was alive?
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Bishop9800 posted...

So you wish Hitler was alive?

no he'd be still be dead by now, even if he never was killed. he can't be alive unless he was immortal.

you are missing the point btw. the only reason America won WW2 was because Hitler was the enemy. if Hitler was replaced by someone else, Germany wins the war and takes over the world.

Zikten posted...

the only reason America won WW2 was because Hitler was the enemy. if Hitler was replaced by someone else, Germany wins the war and takes over the world.

proof?
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Zikten posted...

Kaname_Madoka posted...

TC you get way too offended by the idea of hitler being killed

if you understood history you would be too. if hitler was killed, we would probably all be speaking German right now

I agree that it would be a bad idea to go back in time and kill Hitler

I also think that it's very odd how much you care about it
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Zikten posted...

you are missing the point btw. the only reason America won WW2 was because Hitler was the enemy. if Hitler was replaced by someone else, Germany wins the war and takes over the world.

So you really think that? What proof do you have?
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Kaname_Madoka posted...

Zikten posted...

Kaname_Madoka posted...

TC you get way too offended by the idea of hitler being killed

if you understood history you would be too. if hitler was killed, we would probably all be speaking German right now

I agree that it would be a bad idea to go back in time and kill Hitler

I also think that it's very odd how much you care about it

because it's very dangerous for so many people to think it's not dangerous. what if someone from CE time travels? this is why I try to teach them

Bishop9800 posted...

Zikten posted...

you are missing the point btw. the only reason America won WW2 was because Hitler was the enemy. if Hitler was replaced by someone else, Germany wins the war and takes over the world.

So you really think that? What proof do you have?

Hitler's track record. he made many mistakes and was an idiot. someone else would be smarter

Zikten posted...
you are missing the point btw. the only reason America won WW2 was because Hitler was the enemy. if Hitler was replaced by someone else, Germany wins the war and takes over the world.

Uhhhhh. Who's to say it would be worse dude? We have no proof of anything.
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Eat More Beef posted...

Zikten posted...
you are missing the point btw. the only reason America won WW2 was because Hitler was the enemy. if Hitler was replaced by someone else, Germany wins the war and takes over the world.

Uhhhhh. Who's to say it would be worse dude? We have no proof of anything.

are you going to gamble the whole planet on something like that?

No one from CE is going to time travel.

Even if someone on CE was capable of time travel and they didn't understand that going back in time and murdering historical figures is a bad idea, some random guy on gamefaqs going on a brigade about it won't change his mind.
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You could watch The Butterfly Effect starring Ashton Kutcher from That 70s Show.
He figures out how to time travel but everytime he fixes something I the past, the new future is even worse.
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Zikten posted...

Bishop9800 posted...

Zikten posted...

you are missing the point btw. the only reason America won WW2 was because Hitler was the enemy. if Hitler was replaced by someone else, Germany wins the war and takes over the world.

So you really think that? What proof do you have?

Hitler's track record. he made many mistakes and was an idiot. someone else would be smarter

Nazi Germany didn't fail solely because of Hitler. they were never going to win with everyone that was opposed to them. their military was unsustainable in the long term. the only timeline in which Germany somehow dominated Europe was if they made friends with Britain, the US, and/or Soviets

at least 2 out 3
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I too, would watch a Command & Conquer: Red Alert movie.
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It depends on when you killed Hitler.
Kill him during WWI?
Germany would most likely not start WWII.
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Foppe posted...

It depends on when you killed Hitler.
Kill him during WWI?
Germany would most likely not start WWII.

Germany would still do WW2 even if the only only change was Hitler never existed. you would have to prevent WW1 from happening, or change how Germany was treated in the aftermath. That was the real catalyst for WW2. Hitler was just the guy who happened to take power. whoever ended up taking power would have done the same thing

Foppe posted...

It depends on when you killed Hitler.
Kill him during WWI?
Germany would most likely not start WWII.

Killing Hitler during WWI wouldn't have changed the debt Germany went into afterwards due to the Treaty of Versailles. Which was a big contributor to WWII.
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Zikten posted...

Foppe posted...

It depends on when you killed Hitler.
Kill him during WWI?
Germany would most likely not start WWII.

Germany would still do WW2 even if the only only change was Hitler never existed. you would have to prevent WW1 from happening, or change how Germany was treated in the aftermath. That was the real catalyst for WW2. Hitler was just the guy who happened to take power. whoever ended up taking power would have done the same thing

But people that didnt want a war was in charge before Hitler took the power.
Nobody would rally the masses that allowed him to take the power if he didnt exist.
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