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Giant_Aspirin
08/14/17 10:58:13 AM
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http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/346436-illinois-senate-calls-for-neo-nazis-to-be-classified-as-terror

Good for them. Hope this trend continues and more states follow suit.
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Kaliesto
08/14/17 11:00:41 AM
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Finally!!!
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BLAKUboy
08/14/17 11:01:25 AM
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How long before Trump's Twitter tantrum over this?
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chill02
08/14/17 9:27:20 PM
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Fair, given that ICP fans are classified as such and they're somewhat less dangerous
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Zeeak4444
08/14/17 9:28:25 PM
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chill02 posted...
Fair, given that ICP fans are classified as such and they're somewhat less dangerous


That's such a good point lol.

I completely forgot about that.
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Webmaster4531
08/14/17 9:29:28 PM
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chill02 posted...
Fair, given that ICP fans are classified as such and they're somewhat less dangerous

I think that's just shit people say on the internet. God, guess I'll Google it again.

Edit: All I get is they're a gang.
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08/14/17 9:29:52 PM
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Some good progress here
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TheVipaGTS
08/14/17 9:30:04 PM
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Good. They're not fighting for anything except "make America white again". Their entire existence is based off hate and ignorance.
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ChromaticAngel
08/14/17 9:30:04 PM
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chill02 posted...
Fair, given that ICP fans are classified as such and they're somewhat less dangerous

most juggalos literally don't do anything except lots of drugs.
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MorbidFaithless
08/14/17 9:31:40 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Good. They're not fighting for anything except "make America white again". Their entire existence is based off hate and ignorance.

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Zeeak4444
08/14/17 9:37:54 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
chill02 posted...
Fair, given that ICP fans are classified as such and they're somewhat less dangerous

most juggalos literally don't do anything except lots of drugs.


This is my experience as well with the very few I've met.

Webmaster4531 posted...
chill02 posted...
Fair, given that ICP fans are classified as such and they're somewhat less dangerous

I think that's just shit people say on the internet. God, guess I'll Google it again.

Edit: All I get is they're a gang.


It could have been a rumor, can't say I remember where I originally heard it from.

TBH gang sounds more realistic because I remember hearing it when gangs were in the media a hell of a lot more than terrorists.
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EternalDivide
08/14/17 9:49:15 PM
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Good. Now add BLM to that as well.
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sondast
08/14/17 9:50:29 PM
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Good. I hate Illinois Nazis.
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Crazyman93
08/14/17 9:52:11 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
chill02 posted...
Fair, given that ICP fans are classified as such and they're somewhat less dangerous


That's such a good point lol.

I completely forgot about that.

The FBI also categorizes the Society of Creative Anachronism and the Boy Scouts as Paramilitary groups.
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LordTrinen
08/14/17 10:04:08 PM
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EternalDivide posted...
Good. Now add BLM to that as well.

I'm for this. I've seen firsthand the damage done by BLM members or those rioting under their banner.

Regarding this Neo-Nazi thing, one thing gives me pause about it. More and more these days people seem to be stretching the definition of Nazi to include people who really aren't deserving of the title. For example, I'm willing to bet there are people here who will gladly call me a Nazi for my comment about BLM above. I'm not. I hate Nazis, the KKK and all such groups and I vehemently oppose their ideologies. But people will still call me one because I don't agree with all their opinions.

All I'm saying is, be careful what labels you slap onto people. A label like this is hard to shake off and if resolutions like this become more widespread then it just puts innocent lives at risk by unfairly branding them a Nazi.
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Zeeak4444
08/15/17 12:41:43 AM
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Crazyman93 posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
chill02 posted...
Fair, given that ICP fans are classified as such and they're somewhat less dangerous


That's such a good point lol.

I completely forgot about that.

The FBI also categorizes the Society of Creative Anachronism and the Boy Scouts as Paramilitary groups.


I knew about the Boy Scouts but the SCA lmao? How do they figure that one?
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Howl
08/15/17 12:44:38 AM
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EternalDivide posted...
Good. Now add BLM to that as well.

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Freddie_Mercury
08/15/17 12:46:22 AM
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LordTrinen posted...
All I'm saying is, be careful what labels you slap onto people. A label like this is hard to shake off and if resolutions like this become more widespread then it just puts innocent lives at risk by unfairly branding them a Nazi.

LordTrinen posted...
I'm for this. I've seen firsthand the damage done by BLM members or those rioting under their banner.

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Crazyman93
08/15/17 12:47:14 AM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
Crazyman93 posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
chill02 posted...
Fair, given that ICP fans are classified as such and they're somewhat less dangerous


That's such a good point lol.

I completely forgot about that.

The FBI also categorizes the Society of Creative Anachronism and the Boy Scouts as Paramilitary groups.


I knew about the Boy Scouts but the SCA lmao? How do they figure that one?

Essentially, the FBI defines a paramilitary as any organization that conducts combat or survival drills independently of a Government oversight. It evidently does not seem to take note of if said combat is effective in the modern world. The SCA is the 2nd largest one too. After the Boy Scouts.
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CADE FOSTER
08/15/17 12:47:52 AM
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Phantom_Nook
08/15/17 12:49:47 AM
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ImAMarvel posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Good. They're not fighting for anything except "make America white again". Their entire existence is based off hate and ignorance.

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lilJoe457
08/15/17 12:54:52 AM
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Why weren't they classified as that already.
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lilJoe457
08/15/17 12:55:20 AM
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Honestly sure it's a fine measure. But it shouldn't have taken that riot or whatever to put them in that category.
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CADE FOSTER
08/15/17 12:55:41 AM
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lilJoe457 posted...
Why weren't they classified as that already.

KKK is but these alt right nutters are new
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Zeeak4444
08/15/17 1:03:19 AM
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Crazyman93 posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Crazyman93 posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
chill02 posted...
Fair, given that ICP fans are classified as such and they're somewhat less dangerous


That's such a good point lol.

I completely forgot about that.

The FBI also categorizes the Society of Creative Anachronism and the Boy Scouts as Paramilitary groups.


I knew about the Boy Scouts but the SCA lmao? How do they figure that one?

Essentially, the FBI defines a paramilitary as any organization that conducts combat or survival drills independently of a Government oversight. It evidently does not seem to take note of if said combat is effective in the modern world. The SCA is the 2nd largest one too. After the Boy Scouts.


That makes so much sense while still being so stupid lol.
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Manocheese
08/15/17 1:05:43 AM
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Howl posted...
EternalDivide posted...
Good. Now add BLM to that as well.

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Darmik
08/15/17 1:08:29 AM
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Is this because Trump took them off a watch list or is that separate?
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tennisdude818
08/15/17 1:09:48 AM
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It sure is nice to see Illinois tacking their biggest problem.
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ChromaticAngel
08/15/17 7:58:59 AM
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Crazyman93 posted...
Essentially, the FBI defines a paramilitary as any organization that conducts combat or survival drills independently of a Government oversight. It evidently does not seem to take note of if said combat is effective in the modern world. The SCA is the 2nd largest one too. After the Boy Scouts.


Wait wait wait.

What about ROTC? Is that a paramilitary group? Does that mean America has millions of Child Soldiers?
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NibeIungsnarf
08/15/17 8:01:20 AM
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Sounds like thought crime.
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gunplagirl
08/15/17 8:03:19 AM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
Crazyman93 posted...
Essentially, the FBI defines a paramilitary as any organization that conducts combat or survival drills independently of a Government oversight. It evidently does not seem to take note of if said combat is effective in the modern world. The SCA is the 2nd largest one too. After the Boy Scouts.


Wait wait wait.

What about ROTC? Is that a paramilitary group? Does that mean America has millions of Child Soldiers?

As far as I'm aware, all ROTC programs are overseen by military officials in an official capacity on behalf of the military.
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apocalyptic_4
08/15/17 8:05:57 AM
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Good these people are scum
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Bio1590
08/15/17 8:07:12 AM
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LordTrinen posted...
EternalDivide posted...
Good. Now add BLM to that as well.

I'm for this. I've seen firsthand the damage done by BLM members or those rioting under their banner.

Regarding this Neo-Nazi thing, one thing gives me pause about it. More and more these days people seem to be stretching the definition of Nazi to include people who really aren't deserving of the title. For example, I'm willing to bet there are people here who will gladly call me a Nazi for my comment about BLM above. I'm not. I hate Nazis, the KKK and all such groups and I vehemently oppose their ideologies. But people will still call me one because I don't agree with all their opinions.

All I'm saying is, be careful what labels you slap onto people. A label like this is hard to shake off and if resolutions like this become more widespread then it just puts innocent lives at risk by unfairly branding them a Nazi.

Wooooooooooweeeeeee lads
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gunplagirl
08/15/17 8:08:25 AM
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Wariodorf posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Sounds like thought crime.

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I mean the guy has a very Nordic inspired username and we all know how white nationalists have coopted such imagery.
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NibeIungsnarf
08/15/17 8:11:08 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
I mean the guy has a very Nordic inspired username and we all know how white nationalists have coopted such imagery.

Lol.
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Roxborough4Ever
08/15/17 8:12:56 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Wariodorf posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Sounds like thought crime.

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I mean the guy has a very Nordic inspired username and we all know how white nationalists have coopted such imagery.


you are very desperate and it's all in your head
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Doom_Art
08/15/17 8:16:07 AM
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Roxborough4Ever posted...
you are very desperate and it's all in your head

that's rather rich coming from you
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NibeIungsnarf
08/15/17 8:17:15 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
that's rather rich coming from you

None the less, he was right.

That was a really sad display.
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VectorChaos
08/15/17 8:17:50 AM
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sondast posted...
Good. I hate Illinois Nazis.


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Doom_Art
08/15/17 8:18:32 AM
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EverDownward
08/15/17 8:22:32 AM
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Cool beans ah...wait, so when is BLM and Antifa going to get the same treatment? I guess immense property damage and openly antagonizing an entire race isn't as bad one guy having an extreme reaction to previously said group doing what they do.
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JohnLennon6
08/15/17 8:27:21 AM
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What good is this even going to do?
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Doom_Art
08/15/17 8:30:59 AM
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EverDownward posted...
so when is BLM and Antifa going to get the same treatment?

When they terrorize a community and ram a car into a crowd of people probably.
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Bloodychess
08/15/17 8:31:38 AM
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JohnLennon6 posted...
What good is this even going to do?


Stop literal nazi's and encourage others to falsely label groups as nazi's in an effort to shut them down.
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JohnLennon6
08/15/17 8:38:49 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
EverDownward posted...
so when is BLM and Antifa going to get the same treatment?

When they terrorize a community and ram a car into a crowd of people probably.

What about when they sniped police officers in Texas?
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3rd_Best_Master
08/15/17 8:39:23 AM
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EverDownward posted...
Cool beans ah...wait, so when is BLM and Antifa going to get the same treatment? I guess immense property damage and openly antagonizing an entire race isn't as bad one guy having an extreme reaction to previously said group doing what they do.

Yeah, it's merely circumstance and nothing more that gives neo-nazis a bad name.
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JohnLennon6
08/15/17 8:40:02 AM
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3rd_Best_Master posted...
EverDownward posted...
Cool beans ah...wait, so when is BLM and Antifa going to get the same treatment? I guess immense property damage and openly antagonizing an entire race isn't as bad one guy having an extreme reaction to previously said group doing what they do.

Yeah, it's merely circumstance and nothing more that gives neo-nazis a bad name.

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