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darkphoenix181
05/19/17 4:37:32 PM
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gamer plan
allows browsing of google, wikipedia and a few popular sites
can game and send data through games unilimited
voip like discord unlimited data transfers
limited twich and must pay extra when over mb limit
can check mail but with limited amount of mb for sending mail
cannot stream videos, youtube is heavily throttled, no netflix
$100 a month

executive plan
can browse any website that isn't entertainment related
no nsfw sites ofc
no video streaming
youtube has a cap for training videos
unlimited mail transmission
can transfer large data files but must setup server ip with isp first
$300 a month

video plan
unlimited netflix, video streaming, youtube
capped gaming transmission, very small mb limit
cap on data through mail sent
cannot browse non-entertainment sites, porn is blocked ofc
$200 a month

video plan plus
unlimited netflix, video streaming, youtube
capped gaming transmission, larger mb limit
cap on data through mail sent
porn is no longer blocked
$400 a month

premium home plan
unlimited video streaming
unlimited gaming data
unlimited mail data
can browse virtually any website
porn blocked only on request
$500 a month
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ArchangelBaruch
05/19/17 4:38:19 PM
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VPN
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ChromaticAngel
05/19/17 4:41:56 PM
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ArchangelBaruch posted...
VPN

I don't think that word means what you think it means.
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green butter
05/19/17 4:42:59 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
ArchangelBaruch posted...
VPN

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

it would make it hard for ISPs to throttle your speeds if they dont know where you're coming from ya dig
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ChromaticAngel
05/19/17 4:44:05 PM
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green butter posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
ArchangelBaruch posted...
VPN

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

it would make it hard for ISPs to throttle your speeds if they dont know where you're coming from ya dig


they just throttle the whole vpn.
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darkphoenix181
05/19/17 4:45:26 PM
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green butter posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
ArchangelBaruch posted...
VPN

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

it would make it hard for ISPs to throttle your speeds if they dont know where you're coming from ya dig


isp gives you the internet

you cannot hide what you doing from them as everything you do is going through them

it is like you build a tunnel out the side of your house to try and escape it without me seeing

but the tunnel still has to pass through my bridge which I watch very carefully

I see you come out of the tunnel and I see the tunnel goes back to your house

I know who you are
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Laserion
05/19/17 4:46:03 PM
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green butter posted...
it would make it hard for ISPs to throttle your speeds if they dont know where you're coming from ya dig

They could decide to throttle your speed if they can't pinpoint you.
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green butter
05/19/17 4:48:06 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
green butter posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
ArchangelBaruch posted...
VPN

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

it would make it hard for ISPs to throttle your speeds if they dont know where you're coming from ya dig


isp gives you the internet

you cannot hide what you doing from them as everything you do is going through them

it is like you build a tunnel out the side of your house to try and escape it without me seeing

but the tunnel still has to pass through my bridge which I watch very carefully

I see you come out of the tunnel and I see the tunnel goes back to your house

I know who you are

but the ISP won't know what you're browsing/downloading if you're using a VPN
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CableZL
05/19/17 4:48:45 PM
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With a VPN, your source IP address would still be the same, from your ISP's perspective. All of the traffic still needs to go through your ISP's connection to you, and they can still throttle that.
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darkphoenix181
05/19/17 4:49:02 PM
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green butter posted...
but the ISP won't know what you're browsing/downloading if you're using a VPN


if they really wanted to they can
atm they might not

but once they have these dumb plans they sure will
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ChromaticAngel
05/19/17 4:57:47 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
green butter posted...
but the ISP won't know what you're browsing/downloading if you're using a VPN


if they really wanted to they can
atm they might not

but once they have these dumb plans they sure will


no they literally can't. VPNs are encrypted. The only way to see what traffic they have is to have the necessary security certificates / keys to decode the encryption.

But they can see source and destination IP addresses, which will always be your IP address (for the source) and the VPN (for the Destination) and they can throttle that.
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darkphoenix181
05/19/17 4:59:02 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
But they can see source and destination IP addresses


and from this they can't tell you went to a porn site using the gamer plan?
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ChromaticAngel
05/19/17 5:00:45 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
But they can see source and destination IP addresses


and from this they can't tell you went to a porn site using the gamer plan?


if the gamer plan doesn't allow you to connect to a VPN (I don't see why it would) then they'll just block you from connecting to it or make it run as slow as dial up.
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darkphoenix181
05/19/17 5:02:02 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
But they can see source and destination IP addresses


and from this they can't tell you went to a porn site using the gamer plan?


if the gamer plan doesn't allow you to connect to a VPN (I don't see why it would) then they'll just block you from connecting to it or make it run as slow as dial up.


well the plan can't stream videos
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Canuklehead
05/19/17 5:03:03 PM
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TBH it's probably the porn companies that would save us from all this BS in the first place.
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darkphoenix181
05/19/17 5:07:53 PM
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RedWhiteBlue posted...
I hate plans for anything. Like, why can't I just get what I want and not the other 90% of useless shit I don't want?


because if you could just get what you wanted you wouldn't have to pay for extra shit you didn't want and they get less money
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ChromaticAngel
05/19/17 5:09:29 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
well the plan can't stream videos


There seems to be a lot of gross misinformation about how the internet works.

Without a VPN:
In most cases, your ISP cannot see exactly what you're doing, provided you're using https enabled sites. They get to see the top level domain you're accessing (for example, gamefaqs.com, but won't be able to tell that you're compulsively checking the current events board specifically, because that part comes after the top level domain. Thus, if you go to YouTube, they can't tell if you're just browsing your account settings or actually streaming a video with absolute certainty although bandwidth patterns could give them a good hint.

With a VPN:
Your ISP can't see what you're doing at all, but 1) someone else's ISP can (the provider for the VPN) and 2) Your ISP can see that you're connected to a VPN and they can kill that connection.

No Net Neutrality means that ISPs can just fundamentally block VPNs that they don't like which means they can straight up shut down shit that people depend on like PIA. It will also let them do things like shut down VOIP (Vonage, and similar shit).

Other countries like China do this by government regulation. The USA blocked it by government regulation and now those regulations are being removed and leaving it up to the corporate executives to determine what gets blocked or not.

BUT ANY KIND OF BLOCKING IS BAD
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