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WingsOfGood 05/06/24 9:13:29 AM #1:	Valve has proved time and time again that if a publisher acts in anti-consumer ways, Steam will issue refunds. This is probably why so many companies want to avoid Steam minus the fees. They don't like that they have to act correctly. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:980263706] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>Valve has proved time and time again that if a publisher acts in anti-consumer ways, Steam will issue refunds.This is probably why so many companies want to avoid Steam minus the fees. They don't like that they have to act correctly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DKBananaSlamma 05/06/24 9:16:44 AM #2:	Yeah, Steam is (usually) pretty good for consumers. I never got why jelly nerds hated on Gaben for having a fleet of yachts when that article came out. Dude definitely earned it >_> --- RIP Hornyposting on CE >_> 1999-2024 <cite>DKBananaSlamma posted [p:980263736] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, Steam is (usually) pretty good for consumers. I never got why jelly nerds hated on Gaben for having a fleet of yachts when that article came out. Dude definitely earned it >_> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CountCorvinus 05/06/24 9:17:37 AM #3:	Not even fucking close --- "There's no return from darkness. There's no return, I promise." (THEY/THEM) <cite>CountCorvinus posted [p:980263749] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>Not even fucking close </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 05/06/24 9:20:39 AM #4:	CountCorvinus posted... Not even fucking close To who? <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:980263782] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>CountCorvinus posted... </cite><quote>Not even fucking close</quote>To who?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeggetaX 05/06/24 9:21:49 AM #5:	Capcom is --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>VeggetaX posted [p:980263799] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>Capcom is </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 05/06/24 9:22:58 AM #6:	VeggetaX posted... Capcom is What have they done aside from day 1 dlc that was on the disk? <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:980263818] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>VeggetaX posted... </cite><quote>Capcom is</quote>What have they done aside from day 1 dlc that was on the disk?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 05/06/24 9:23:56 AM #7:	valve is middle of the road. theyve done plenty of anti-consumer shit in the past. they are also poorly run so they dont release many games anymore VeggetaX posted... Capcom is crapcom has never been in the top 5 companies and currently isnt even in the top 20 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:980263829] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>valve is middle of the road. theyve done plenty of anti-consumer shit in the past. they are also poorly run so they dont release many games anymore VeggetaX posted... </cite><quote>Capcom is</quote>crapcom has never been in the top 5 companies and currently isnt even in the top 20</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 05/06/24 9:25:18 AM #8:	Yes they are. --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7T2OR-O2Vk <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:980263845] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>Yes they are. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueTigerLion 05/06/24 9:25:33 AM #9:	I thought topic was going to be about a company making games. Not a company that owns a site where you can buy games. Of course they will be pro-customer to keep you coming to their store/site. --- Hey now. <cite>BlueTigerLion posted [p:980263848] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>I thought topic was going to be about a company making games. Not a company that owns a site where you can buy games. Of course they will be pro-customer to keep you coming to their store/site. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DKBananaSlamma 05/06/24 9:25:59 AM #10:	VeggetaX posted... Capcom is Is this a real post? --- RIP Hornyposting on CE >_> 1999-2024 <cite>DKBananaSlamma posted [p:980263853] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>VeggetaX posted... </cite><quote>Capcom is</quote>Is this a real post? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
__starsnostars 05/06/24 9:28:59 AM #11:	I love Valve but I still remember when they tried to implement a framework for paid skyrim mods. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDyXIXyAZq0 Please consider adopting a cat from your SPCA or local animal shelter. <cite>__starsnostars posted [p:980263885] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>I love Valve but I still remember when they tried to implement a framework for paid skyrim mods. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fenriswolf 05/06/24 9:29:25 AM #12:	Valve let the success of Steam go to its head, and we're still waiting for the next proper Half Life game. The shit they pulled with Artifact and Steam Machines showed that it's out of touch. --- Hello <cite>Fenriswolf posted [p:980263889] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>Valve let the success of Steam go to its head, and we're still waiting for the next proper Half Life game. The shit they pulled with Artifact and Steam Machines showed that it's out of touch. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CountCorvinus 05/06/24 9:38:32 AM #13:	WingsOfGood posted... To who? Oh, I dunno, how bout NINTENDO? Over 40 years in the games industry and has developed multiple best selling video games. Look at this list. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games Do you see Valve anywhere on it? --- "There's no return from darkness. There's no return, I promise." (THEY/THEM) <cite>CountCorvinus posted [p:980264000] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite><quote>To who?</quote>Oh, I dunno, how bout NINTENDO? Over 40 years in the games industry and has developed multiple best selling video games.Look at this list.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_gamesDo you see Valve anywhere on it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumpo 05/06/24 9:41:14 AM #14:	Gaben has a racecar team too --- Lancool II \| Z690 Tomahawk \|12700K \| Fuma 2 \| RTX 3070Ti \| 16GB 3600MHz \| FireCuda 530 1TB \| Inland NVMe 1TB \| RM750x <cite>Trumpo posted [p:980264033] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>Gaben has a racecar team too </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 05/06/24 9:46:51 AM #15:	I read an article recently about how Valve had the highest revenue-to-employee ratio of any company in at least the tech industry, it was kinda crazy. Steam just prints money --- RS3: UltimaSuende - CE Thread Zone https://letterboxd.com/BMovieBro/ <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:980264114] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>I read an article recently about how Valve had the highest revenue-to-employee ratio of any company in at least the tech industry, it was kinda crazy. Steam just prints money </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeggetaX 05/06/24 9:59:31 AM #16:	One or more of Capcom's game is on your top list of GOAT games. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>VeggetaX posted [p:980264264] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>One or more of Capcom's game is on your top list of GOAT games. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 05/06/24 10:00:49 AM #17:	VeggetaX posted... One or more of Capcom's game is on your top list of GOAT games. Making good games doesn't a good company make <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:980264282] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>VeggetaX posted... </cite><quote>One or more of Capcom's game is on your top list of GOAT games.</quote>Making good games doesn't a good company make</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeggetaX 05/06/24 10:03:14 AM #18:	Learn to separate the art from the artist. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>VeggetaX posted [p:980264314] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>Learn to separate the art from the artist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
firedoom666 05/06/24 10:08:38 AM #19:	I feel like they need to make some games to be considered the best gaming company. They are the most consumer friendly video game marketplace --- We're on a journey to forever! Dreams eternal in a wondrous world without walls We are Forever, wondering what the future holds <cite>firedoom666 posted [p:980264366] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>I feel like they need to make some games to be considered the best gaming company.They are the most consumer friendly video game marketplace </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boomgetchopped3 05/06/24 10:10:45 AM #20:	Yea, and they could have milked the fuck out of their franchises but chose not to. Who else does that? They also single handedly saved VR when it was in its infancy. Now granted VR is kinda fucked now but thats mostly Metas fault. --- More to do with the humidity than heat <cite>boomgetchopped3 posted [p:980264396] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>Yea, and they could have milked the fuck out of their franchises but chose not to. Who else does that?They also single handedly saved VR when it was in its infancy. Now granted VR is kinda fucked now but thats mostly Metas fault. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Newave 05/06/24 10:12:31 AM #21:	easily one of the worst and by far the worst as far as PC gaming goes, Steam ruined good PC gaming and made it go all digital, and all their games are boring and poorly made, I have nothing good to say about this terrible company --- Kill the legs first, that's an ironclad battle tactic! <cite>Newave posted [p:980264410] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>easily one of the worst and by far the worst as far as PC gaming goes, Steam ruined good PC gaming and made it go all digital, and all their games are boring and poorly made, I have nothing good to say about this terrible company </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeggetaX 05/06/24 10:13:20 AM #22:	boomgetchopped3 posted... Yea, and they could have milked the fuck out of their franchises but chose not to. Who else does that? Isn't there a ton of Half Life side games and they're on their 4th version of Counter Strike? --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>VeggetaX posted [p:980264422] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>boomgetchopped3 posted... </cite><quote>Yea, and they could have milked the fuck out of their franchises but chose not to. Who else does that?</quote>Isn't there a ton of Half Life side games and they're on their 4th version of Counter Strike? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BucketCat 05/06/24 10:14:12 AM #23:	maybe not the best, but I def think they're up there. at least on the dev side of things, the 30% cut steam takes from each sale feels kinda steep. I think it goes down as sales go up, but only a small percentage of games ever make over 5k in revenue. --- ? <cite>BucketCat posted [p:980264431] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>maybe not the best, but I def think they're up there. at least on the dev side of things, the 30% cut steam takes from each sale feels kinda steep. I think it goes down as sales go up, but only a small percentage of games ever make over 5k in revenue. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 05/06/24 10:14:23 AM #24:	Newave posted... easily one of the worst and by far the worst as far as PC gaming goes, Steam ruined good PC gaming and made it go all digital, and all their games are boring and poorly made, I have nothing good to say about this terrible company PC was always digital though. Even when you had an installer on a disk you needed a key or connect to a server to verify. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:980264432] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>Newave posted... </cite><quote>easily one of the worst and by far the worst as far as PC gaming goes, Steam ruined good PC gaming and made it go all digital, and all their games are boring and poorly made, I have nothing good to say about this terrible company</quote>PC was always digital though. Even when you had an installer on a disk you needed a key or connect to a server to verify.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thisworld 05/06/24 10:20:59 AM #25:	BlueTigerLion posted... (emphasis mine) I thought topic was going to be about a company making games. Not a company that owns a site where you can buy games. *Of course they will be pro-customer to keep you coming to their store/site.* <cite>thisworld posted [p:980264506] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>BlueTigerLion posted... </cite>(emphasis mine)<quote>I thought topic was going to be about a company making games. Not a company that owns a site where you can buy games. Of course they will be pro-customer to keep you coming to their store/site.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Newave 05/06/24 10:22:43 AM #26:	WingsOfGood posted... PC was always digital though. Even when you had an installer on a disk you needed a key or connect to a server to verify. me sitting here with hundreds of physical copies of games that have 100% of what's required to play on the disc because they came out before 2004 when Steam killed PC gaming for good: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/68de0ca8.jpg --- Kill the legs first, that's an ironclad battle tactic! <cite>Newave posted [p:980264520] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite><quote>PC was always digital though. Even when you had an installer on a disk you needed a key or connect to a server to verify.</quote>me sitting here with hundreds of physical copies of games that have 100% of what's required to play on the disc because they came out before 2004 when Steam killed PC gaming for good:https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/68de0ca8.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 05/06/24 10:24:52 AM #27:	Blizzard made it free to play against more than one person online with their battle.net. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:980264544] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>Blizzard made it free to play against more than one person online with their battle.net. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeggetaX 05/06/24 10:28:14 AM #28:	Foppe posted... Blizzard made it free to play against more than one person online with their battle.net. But their UI is ugly and that's a deal breaker. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>VeggetaX posted [p:980264579] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>Foppe posted... </cite><quote>Blizzard made it free to play against more than one person online with their battle.net.</quote>But their UI is ugly and that's a deal breaker. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Board_hunter567 05/06/24 11:11:41 AM #29:	Yes and no. When it comes to Steam as a storefront and content delivery platform they listen intently and act fast, especially when they make unpopular decisions, making it the powerhouse it is today. When it comes to hardware, they're slow and experimental but make fantastic products. When it comes to handling their community, they have a hands off approach that results in largely useless one sentence reviews trying to be funny, self-proclaimed alt-right fascists, and individual game forums that might as well not even be there. When it comes to games, they infamously left their claim to fame on a cliffhanger and it's not an exaggeration to say that, while the games themselves are high quality, their monetization model is straight up gambling. If it wasn't for Steam they'd have long been considered one of the worst in the biz. --- http://i.imgur.com/szMsu.png Validate your purchases and discredit the purchases of others whenever possible. Numbers objectively define quality and enjoyment. <cite>Board_hunter567 posted [p:980265079] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>Yes and no.When it comes to Steam as a storefront and content delivery platform they listen intently and act fast, especially when they make unpopular decisions, making it the powerhouse it is today.When it comes to hardware, they're slow and experimental but make fantastic products.When it comes to handling their community, they have a hands off approach that results in largely useless one sentence reviews trying to be funny, self-proclaimed alt-right fascists, and individual game forums that might as well not even be there.When it comes to games, they infamously left their claim to fame on a cliffhanger and it's not an exaggeration to say that, while the games themselves are high quality, their monetization model is straight up gambling.If it wasn't for Steam they'd have long been considered one of the worst in the biz. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MagiMarthKoopa 05/06/24 11:15:23 AM #30:	Valve blocked Dungeon Travelers 2 so fuck them <cite>MagiMarthKoopa posted [p:980265116] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>Valve blocked Dungeon Travelers 2 so fuck them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Seaman_Prime 05/06/24 11:19:37 AM #31:	VeggetaX posted... One or more of Capcom's game is on your top list of GOAT games. I could say the same of Konami <cite>Seaman_Prime posted [p:980265171] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>VeggetaX posted... </cite><quote>One or more of Capcom's game is on your top list of GOAT games.</quote>I could say the same of Konami</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeggetaX 05/06/24 11:21:47 AM #32:	Seaman_Prime posted... I could say the same of Konami Yes you can and Square as well but I imagine Capcom has more games on everyone's list of GOAT than others. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>VeggetaX posted [p:980265196] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>Seaman_Prime posted... </cite><quote>I could say the same of Konami</quote>Yes you can and Square as well but I imagine Capcom has more games on everyone's list of GOAT than others. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dakimakura 05/06/24 11:23:58 AM #33:	Best company in gaming doesn't even make games is pretty telling --- Bees <cite>Dakimakura posted [p:980265232] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>Best company in gaming doesn't even make games is pretty telling </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dungeater 05/06/24 11:26:15 AM #34:	eh idk how to measure best and u have devs, publishers, manufacturers, storefronts, etc from a purely dev POV i am very impressed with fromsoftware's track record. bandai namco has done some annoying shit tho thats for sure but FS is the only studio I can think of that put out a perfect game, then dumped an amazing free update into it on top of it --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him <cite>Dungeater posted [p:980265265] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>eh idk how to measure best and u have devs, publishers, manufacturers, storefronts, etcfrom a purely dev POV i am very impressed with fromsoftware's track record. bandai namco has done some annoying shit tho thats for sure but FS is the only studio I can think of that put out a perfect game, then dumped an amazing free update into it on top of it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xlr_big-coop 05/06/24 8:14:54 PM #35:	Absolutely, they're the ones who look after their customers the most. Gabe's line on piracy is inspiring, treat your customers with respect and they'll show up. Not even epic nor the big 3 are as pro customer as steam is --- :) <cite>xlr_big-coop posted [p:980272943] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>Absolutely, they're the ones who look after their customers the most. Gabe's line on piracy is inspiring, treat your customers with respect and they'll show up. Not even epic nor the big 3 are as pro customer as steam is </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 05/07/24 2:18:27 AM #36:	Dakimakura posted... Best company in gaming doesn't even make games is pretty telling They do so much for gaming as a whole they can be forgiven for that I feel. --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7T2OR-O2Vk <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:980277538] in Is Valve t... [t:80763434]...</cite> <quote>Dakimakura posted... </cite><quote>Best company in gaming doesn't even make games is pretty telling</quote>They do so much for gaming as a whole they can be forgiven for that I feel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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