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luigi33 04/26/24 3:58:55 PM #1:	I would not be surprised if she does more #s than MJ. More people exist in the world than MJs time. But proportionately does she command the same respect? Asking because legitimately curious of your thoughts. --- RTX 3070, Ryzen 7 5700x,16GB DDR4, 700WGold PSU Switch FC: SW-3966-2111-8902, Proud Steam Deck Owner <cite>luigi33 posted [p:980108758] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>I would not be surprised if she does more #s than MJ. More people exist in the world than MJs time. But proportionately does she command the same respect? Asking because legitimately curious of your thoughts. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 04/26/24 4:02:37 PM #2:	I think she's at least equal to where he was in the 1980s <cite>Zikten posted [p:980108821] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>I think she's at least equal to where he was in the 1980s</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaiser1one 04/26/24 4:02:46 PM #3:	Swift is big with women and White women. MJ would be universally liked more if he still lived. --- Why is it that the world can't spell "lose" or "woman" right??? <cite>Kaiser1one posted [p:980108826] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>Swift is big with women and White women. MJ would be universally liked more if he still lived. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 04/26/24 4:03:21 PM #4:	As a business exec, sure. As an artist LMAO not even close. --- THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Las Vegas Raiders: 8-9 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:980108840] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>As a business exec, sure. As an artist LMAO not even close. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baron_Ox 04/26/24 4:05:17 PM #5:	I don't think so. Micheal Jackson is known as the "King of Pop", and while Taylor is obviously a widely popular and successful artist, she isn't regarded as the Queen/Princess of anything yet. plus, Mike Jack has sold more than her overall: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_music_artists I think that Taylor also makes good music, but time will have to tell whether any of it is "classic". --- "I could never encapsulate all my cosmicality on my own." - mr. MFN eXquire. https://imgur.com/4CDGncR <cite>Baron_Ox posted [p:980108865] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>I don't think so. Micheal Jackson is known as the "King of Pop", and while Taylor is obviously a widely popular and successful artist, she isn't regarded as the Queen/Princess of anything yet. plus, Mike Jack has sold more than her overall: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_music_artistsI think that Taylor also makes good music, but time will have to tell whether any of it is "classic". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Were_Wyrm 04/26/24 4:10:38 PM #6:	lol no, maybe when she gets a couple of rings. Can she even dunk? --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom https://i.imgur.com/0EJvC4l.jpg <cite>Were_Wyrm posted [p:980108967] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>lol no, maybe when she gets a couple of rings. Can she even dunk? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 04/26/24 4:11:34 PM #7:	The culture is way more fragmented now than it was then. --- Please don't be weird in my topics <cite>Antifar posted [p:980108995] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>The culture is way more fragmented now than it was then. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuerrillaSoldier 04/26/24 4:15:02 PM #8:	who? lmao god no --- Disclaimer: There's a good chance the above post could be sarcasm. Die-hard Oakland A's fan --- Keep the A's in Oakland! <cite>GuerrillaSoldier posted [p:980109068] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>who?lmao god no </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsucaHayashi 04/26/24 4:24:40 PM #9:	Baron_Ox posted... plus, Mike Jack has sold more than her overall: didnt check link but i doubt album sales is a valid metric moving forward since exposure to music has changed so much. in the same way i wouldnt for example use swifts eras tour as her being a bigger concert performer when MJs doesnt even break the top 20 of top grossing tours --- http://abload.de/img/pcgamingxtuvt.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9Yv0R2Z.jpg <cite>AsucaHayashi posted [p:980109223] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>Baron_Ox posted... </cite><quote>plus, Mike Jack has sold more than her overall: </quote>didnt check link but i doubt album sales is a valid metric moving forward since exposure to music has changed so much.in the same way i wouldnt for example use swifts eras tour as her being a bigger concert performer when MJs doesnt even break the top 20 of top grossing tours </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Murphiroth 04/26/24 4:29:34 PM #10:	She's 5'11, he was 5'9, so yeah. <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:980109305] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>She's 5'11, he was 5'9, so yeah.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AgentCoulson 04/26/24 4:31:10 PM #11:	Have people started fainting at Taylor Swift concerts yet? --- I haven't set a signature for the message boards yet <cite>AgentCoulson posted [p:980109331] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>Have people started fainting at Taylor Swift concerts yet? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sheiky-Baby 04/26/24 4:33:00 PM #12:	MJ was looked upon like some deity. Atleast from Europe side. --- "Make pain your best friend, and you'll never be alone." <cite>Sheiky-Baby posted [p:980109352] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>MJ was looked upon like some deity. Atleast from Europe side. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 04/26/24 4:33:51 PM #13:	Well she's definitely got bigger boo ~this message has been moderated to protect users from themselves~ --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:980109364] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>Well she's definitely got bigger boo ~this message has been moderated to protect users from themselves~ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cephalopods 04/26/24 4:36:47 PM #14:	Yes, she's 5'11 and he was 5'9 <cite>Cephalopods posted [p:980109413] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>Yes, she's 5'11 and he was 5'9</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bigblu89 04/26/24 4:38:09 PM #15:	This site created a formula to sort of "even the odds" between artists of the past a present, weighing it so that things like streams and digital/physical album sales are proportionally equal. The table shows the top artists of all-time using the following ratios: Studio album: sales of the original album (ratio 1/1) Other LPs: sales of compilations generated thanks to the album (ratio 1/1) Physical singles: sales of physical singles from the album (added to CSPC total with a ratio 3/10 for 2-tracks, 5/10 for EPs and Maxis) Digital singles: sales of digital singles from the album (ratio 1.5/10 for CSPC total) Streaming: equivalent album sales of all the album tracks (ratio 1/1500 for Audio stream and 1/6750 for Video stream) Taylor Swift doesn't even make the Top 10. https://chartmasters.org/best-selling-artists-of-all-time/ --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. <cite>bigblu89 posted [p:980109442] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>This site created a formula to sort of "even the odds" between artists of the past a present, weighing it so that things like streams and digital/physical album sales are proportionally equal.The table shows the top artists of all-time using the following ratios:Studio album: sales of the original album (ratio 1/1)Other LPs: sales of compilations generated thanks to the album (ratio 1/1)Physical singles: sales of physical singles from the album (added to CSPC total with a ratio 3/10 for 2-tracks, 5/10 for EPs and Maxis)Digital singles: sales of digital singles from the album (ratio 1.5/10 for CSPC total)Streaming: equivalent album sales of all the album tracks (ratio 1/1500 for Audio stream and 1/6750 for Video stream)Taylor Swift doesn't even make the Top 10.https://chartmasters.org/best-selling-artists-of-all-time/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 04/26/24 4:42:42 PM #16:	What would Taylor Swift's Beat It or Thriller equivalent be? --- http://i.imgur.com/x04tPRZ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/t7T392I.jpg <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:980109515] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>What would Taylor Swift's Beat It or Thriller equivalent be? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wanderingshade 04/26/24 4:43:40 PM #17:	Is she really popular anywhere else besides the US? --- "You're made of spare parts, aren't ya, bud?" <cite>wanderingshade posted [p:980109534] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>Is she really popular anywhere else besides the US? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bigblu89 04/26/24 4:48:40 PM #18:	wanderingshade posted... Is she really popular anywhere else besides the US? Looking at her current tour dates, all outside the US, and all in 50-70k seat stadiums, I'd say so. https://www.taylorswift.com/tour/ --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. <cite>bigblu89 posted [p:980109621] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>wanderingshade posted... </cite><quote>Is she really popular anywhere else besides the US?</quote>Looking at her current tour dates, all outside the US, and all in 50-70k seat stadiums, I'd say so.https://www.taylorswift.com/tour/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 04/26/24 4:58:10 PM #19:	Doubt it, I still have Vietnamese and Brazilian cousins that don't even know who she is, hell one of them got her named confused with that shirtless wolf dude from Twilight. MJ, on the other hand, is a whole other level. That is not to say TS doesn't deserve the fame she got, but I agree with another user saying, business wise, she's a lot more savy at it than MJ probably was. Kradek posted... Well she's definitely got bigger boo ~this message has been moderated to protect users from themselves~ Yeah she got a bigger boost in popularity thanks to her ability to out-manuever the music execs that tried to control her music. --- DI MOLTO! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:980109796] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>Doubt it, I still have Vietnamese and Brazilian cousins that don't even know who she is, hell one of them got her named confused with that shirtless wolf dude from Twilight. MJ, on the other hand, is a whole other level. That is not to say TS doesn't deserve the fame she got, but I agree with another user saying, business wise, she's a lot more savy at it than MJ probably was. Kradek posted... </cite><quote>Well she's definitely got bigger boo ~this message has been moderated to protect users from themselves~</quote>Yeah she got a bigger boost in popularity thanks to her ability to out-manuever the music execs that tried to control her music. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 04/26/24 4:59:23 PM #20:	If the internet and streaming services and whatnot had been around for the Beatles or MJ there would likely be no comparison whatsoever. --- Asus ROG Strix Z790-E \| Core i9-13900k \| 64GB DDR5-6000 \| RTX 4090 24GB Dell AW3423DW QD-OLED - 1440p Ultrawide, 175hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:980109812] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>If the internet and streaming services and whatnot had been around for the Beatles or MJ there would likely be no comparison whatsoever. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delirious_Beard 04/26/24 5:05:54 PM #21:	she has a greater hold of a singular demographic (white women) than anyone ever maybe but MJ was universal --- https://i.imgur.com/hLHUnOI.jpg You act like I don't know my own way home <cite>Delirious_Beard posted [p:980109930] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>she has a greater hold of a singular demographic (white women) than anyone ever maybebut MJ was universal </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bigblu89 04/26/24 5:13:46 PM #22:	Artists like Michael Jackson and The Beatles and Elvis before him were at their peak in a completely different era when you think about how media was distributed. Just look at TV. The highest rated TV show of 1982, the year "Thriller" was released, was Dallas, with a 24.8 share. The highest rated (non-Live Sports) TV show now is NCIS, at about a 2.9 share. There's just SO MANY more ways to get media. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. <cite>bigblu89 posted [p:980110073] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>Artists like Michael Jackson and The Beatles and Elvis before him were at their peak in a completely different era when you think about how media was distributed.Just look at TV. The highest rated TV show of 1982, the year "Thriller" was released, was Dallas, with a 24.8 share.The highest rated (non-Live Sports) TV show now is NCIS, at about a 2.9 share.There's just SO MANY more ways to get media. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeoRavus 04/26/24 5:16:31 PM #23:	Jackson had people speaking in tongues and falling out at his concerts all over the world. People literally lost their minds. He's probably the most famous entertainer who ever existed. --- This is where cool people write stuff. <cite>LeoRavus posted [p:980110119] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>Jackson had people speaking in tongues and falling out at his concerts all over the world. People literally lost their minds. He's probably the most famous entertainer who ever existed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 04/26/24 5:19:38 PM #24:	Jackson was the biggest pop star of his era. Swift is the biggest of hers. That's all there is to it. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. <cite>ai123 posted [p:980110166] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>Jackson was the biggest pop star of his era. Swift is the biggest of hers.That's all there is to it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 04/26/24 5:35:45 PM #25:	It's a fundamentally different time, a fundamentally different technological, economic, and cultural situation. It's pretty hard to do any type of historical comparison. But anecdotally, she has white women on lock, but I doubt my extended family on other continents have ever heard of her. They all would have heard of MJ and could sing his songs. Most of us just live and interact with US, White, and White woman dominated spaces so it seems like she's supernova right now. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:980110398] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>It's a fundamentally different time, a fundamentally different technological, economic, and cultural situation. It's pretty hard to do any type of historical comparison. But anecdotally, she has white women on lock, but I doubt my extended family on other continents have ever heard of her. They all would have heard of MJ and could sing his songs. Most of us just live and interact with US, White, and White woman dominated spaces so it seems like she's supernova right now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheMikh 04/26/24 5:39:47 PM #26:	the biggest since mj (edit: stateside), perhaps, but not bigger than mj her broader cultural footprint is also not too significant; she's extremely popular and relevant in the states but she isn't fundamentally changing the trajectory of music or entertainment stylistically in a way that will be remembered years from now, except maybe the business of music --- http://i.imgur.com/A0TAfek.png <cite>TheMikh posted [p:980110438] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>the biggest since mj (edit: stateside), perhaps, but not bigger than mjher broader cultural footprint is also not too significant; she's extremely popular and relevant in the states but she isn't fundamentally changing the trajectory of music or entertainment stylistically in a way that will be remembered years from now, except maybe the business of music </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kami_no_Kami 04/26/24 5:41:03 PM #27:	No. <cite>Kami_no_Kami posted [p:980110450] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>No.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BearlyWilling 04/26/24 5:46:08 PM #28:	ai123 posted... Jackson was the biggest pop star of his era. Swift is the biggest of hers. That's all there is to it. This. The mental gymnastics people employ on CE to try to act like she isnt immensely talented or anything just because they think it might threaten <artist they love> is lulzy. Taylor doesnt throw punches if they dont deserve it so dont worry, she isnt gunning for the legacies of the Beatles or MJ. AgentCoulson posted... Have people started fainting at Taylor Swift concerts yet? Eras amnesia is a thing so yeah, kinda. TheMikh posted... the biggest since mj (edit: stateside), perhaps, but not bigger than mj her broader cultural footprint is also not too significant; she's extremely popular and relevant in the states but she isn't fundamentally changing the trajectory of music or entertainment stylistically in a way that will be remembered years from now, except maybe the business of music Her tours overseas routinely sell out. she is HUGE across the entire world and not just the US, homie. --- Hmm... <cite>BearlyWilling posted [p:980110532] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>ai123 posted... </cite><quote>Jackson was the biggest pop star of his era. Swift is the biggest of hers.That's all there is to it.</quote>This. The mental gymnastics people employ on CE to try to act like she isnt immensely talented or anything just because they think it might threaten <artist they love> is lulzy. Taylor doesnt throw punches if they dont deserve it so dont worry, she isnt gunning for the legacies of the Beatles or MJ. AgentCoulson posted... </cite><quote>Have people started fainting at Taylor Swift concerts yet?</quote>Eras amnesia is a thing so yeah, kinda. TheMikh posted... </cite><quote>the biggest since mj (edit: stateside), perhaps, but not bigger than mjher broader cultural footprint is also not too significant; she's extremely popular and relevant in the states but she isn't fundamentally changing the trajectory of music or entertainment stylistically in a way that will be remembered years from now, except maybe the business of music</quote>Her tours overseas routinely sell out. she is HUGE across the entire world and not just the US, homie. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
garan 04/26/24 5:47:40 PM #29:	bigblu89 posted... This site created a formula to sort of "even the odds" between artists of the past a present, weighing it so that things like streams and digital/physical album sales are proportionally equal. The table shows the top artists of all-time using the following ratios: Studio album: sales of the original album (ratio 1/1) Other LPs: sales of compilations generated thanks to the album (ratio 1/1) Physical singles: sales of physical singles from the album (added to CSPC total with a ratio 3/10 for 2-tracks, 5/10 for EPs and Maxis) Digital singles: sales of digital singles from the album (ratio 1.5/10 for CSPC total) Streaming: equivalent album sales of all the album tracks (ratio 1/1500 for Audio stream and 1/6750 for Video stream) Taylor Swift doesn't even make the Top 10. https://chartmasters.org/best-selling-artists-of-all-time/ Thanks for posting that, it was neat to see a way to measure everything. Not surprised by the list either-- Beatles, Jackson, Elvis, etc. Kinda funny to see Swift right behind AC/DC of all bands though. <cite>garan posted [p:980110557] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>bigblu89 posted...</cite><quote>This site created a formula to sort of "even the odds" between artists of the past a present, weighing it so that things like streams and digital/physical album sales are proportionally equal.The table shows the top artists of all-time using the following ratios:Studio album: sales of the original album (ratio 1/1)Other LPs: sales of compilations generated thanks to the album (ratio 1/1)Physical singles: sales of physical singles from the album (added to CSPC total with a ratio 3/10 for 2-tracks, 5/10 for EPs and Maxis)Digital singles: sales of digital singles from the album (ratio 1.5/10 for CSPC total)Streaming: equivalent album sales of all the album tracks (ratio 1/1500 for Audio stream and 1/6750 for Video stream)Taylor Swift doesn't even make the Top 10.https://chartmasters.org/best-selling-artists-of-all-time/</quote>Thanks for posting that, it was neat to see a way to measure everything. Not surprised by the list either-- Beatles, Jackson, Elvis, etc. Kinda funny to see Swift right behind AC/DC of all bands though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DipDipDiver 04/26/24 5:52:47 PM #30:	Tbh I don't really know how big she is outside the US, but I know MJ was huge pretty much everywhere --- Sack to crack, going to town <cite>DipDipDiver posted [p:980110643] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>Tbh I don't really know how big she is outside the US, but I know MJ was huge pretty much everywhere </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
W_S_C_M 04/26/24 6:09:05 PM #31:	She's proportionally bigger than most men on CE --- Peacefully non-compliant/non-conformist <cite>W_S_C_M posted [p:980110873] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>She's proportionally bigger than most men on CE </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_____Cait 04/26/24 6:15:25 PM #32:	Mj was still bigger. She still hasnt influenced music as much as him, and isnt as big globally as him. Think about how popular he was before the internet made distribution easy. --- ORAS secret base: http://imgur.com/V9nAVrd 3DS friend code: 0173-1465-1236 <cite>_____Cait posted [p:980110956] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>Mj was still bigger. She still hasnt influenced music as much as him, and isnt as big globally as him. Think about how popular he was before the internet made distribution easy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baron_Ox 04/26/24 6:15:31 PM #33:	BearlyWilling posted... This. The mental gymnastics people employ on CE to try to act like she isnt immensely talented or anything just because they think it might threaten is lulzy. Taylor doesnt throw punches if they dont deserve it so dont worry, she isnt gunning for the legacies of the Beatles or MJ. no one's insulting Taylor Swift by saying she's not as big as Michael Jackson. it's not a matter of quality, since we all have different opinions, and there are masterful musicians/artists who will never get the acclaim of either Taylor or Michael. it's just about numbers, cultural impact, and stuff like that. it's also not a bad thing to come in #5 or 10 when you look at who you're being compared with. --- "I could never encapsulate all my cosmicality on my own." - mr. MFN eXquire. https://imgur.com/4CDGncR <cite>Baron_Ox posted [p:980110961] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>BearlyWilling posted... </cite><quote>This. The mental gymnastics people employ on CE to try to act like she isnt immensely talented or anything just because they think it might threaten is lulzy. Taylor doesnt throw punches if they dont deserve it so dont worry, she isnt gunning for the legacies of the Beatles or MJ. </quote>no one's insulting Taylor Swift by saying she's not as big as Michael Jackson. it's not a matter of quality, since we all have different opinions, and there are masterful musicians/artists who will never get the acclaim of either Taylor or Michael. it's just about numbers, cultural impact, and stuff like that. it's also not a bad thing to come in #5 or 10 when you look at who you're being compared with. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid_Snake07 04/26/24 6:17:10 PM #34:	No, Michael Jackson was so absurdly famous in a way Im not sure is even possible anymore with media being so much less centralized than it was in the 80s --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid_Snake07 posted [p:980110975] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>No, Michael Jackson was so absurdly famous in a way Im not sure is even possible anymore with media being so much less centralized than it was in the 80s </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeoRavus 04/26/24 6:28:16 PM #35:	_____Cait posted... Mj was still bigger. She still hasnt influenced music as much as him, and isnt as big globally as him. Think about how popular he was before the internet made distribution easy. It's probably hard for people who weren't around when he was huge to comprehend. I remember going to Toys R Us as a kid and they had a bin of silver MJ gloves in the center aisle. MJ dolls everywhere. MJ jackets. MJ fan hysteria all over the news, TV specials, in tabloids, etc. He was everywhere. I only hear about Taylor Swift on CE. --- This is where cool people write stuff. <cite>LeoRavus posted [p:980111130] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>_____Cait posted... </cite><quote>Mj was still bigger. She still hasnt influenced music as much as him, and isnt as big globally as him. Think about how popular he was before the internet made distribution easy.</quote>It's probably hard for people who weren't around when he was huge to comprehend. I remember going to Toys R Us as a kid and they had a bin of silver MJ gloves in the center aisle. MJ dolls everywhere. MJ jackets. MJ fan hysteria all over the news, TV specials, in tabloids, etc. He was everywhere. I only hear about Taylor Swift on CE. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sad_Face 04/26/24 6:38:40 PM #36:	voldothegr8 posted... As a business exec, sure. MJ owned a billion dollar music portfolio, to the dismay of Sony, which included The Beatles' discography. I'm sure her networth currently is higher than MJ's at his time of passing, but to own such a portfolio is one helluva win. --- https://i.imgur.com/WmIB016.jpg https://i.imgur.com/53FGj6K.gif <cite>Sad_Face posted [p:980111296] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>voldothegr8 posted... </cite><quote>As a business exec, sure.</quote>MJ owned a billion dollar music portfolio, to the dismay of Sony, which included The Beatles' discography. I'm sure her networth currently is higher than MJ's at his time of passing, but to own such a portfolio is one helluva win. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ViewtifulGrave 04/26/24 7:09:14 PM #37:	BearlyWilling posted... Eras amnesia is a thing so yeah, kinda. ??? --- Useless "Captain" Mid <cite>ViewtifulGrave posted [p:980111788] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>BearlyWilling posted... </cite><quote>Eras amnesia is a thing so yeah, kinda. </quote>??? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SauI_Goodman 04/26/24 7:22:20 PM #38:	I don't know but I think selling 700,000 physical copies of an album after just 5 days in 2024 is amazing. --- Italian, French, German. <cite>SauI_Goodman posted [p:980111989] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>I don't know but I think selling 700,000 physical copies of an album after just 5 days in 2024 is amazing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fenriswolf 04/26/24 7:46:38 PM #39:	Well Taylor Swift doesn't have a cult of personality to the degree of MJ. --- Hello <cite>Fenriswolf posted [p:980112356] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>Well Taylor Swift doesn't have a cult of personality to the degree of MJ. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blbmbr666 04/26/24 7:52:42 PM #40:	Smashingpmkns posted... What would Taylor Swift's Beat It or Thriller equivalent be? The fact that there hasn't been a response to this ends the argument IMO. --- Your memes.... end here. <cite>Blbmbr666 posted [p:980112438] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite><quote>What would Taylor Swift's Beat It or Thriller equivalent be?</quote>The fact that there hasn't been a response to this ends the argument IMO. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bigblu89 04/26/24 11:51:10 PM #41:	ViewtifulGrave posted... ??? Eras amnesia is basically girls becoming so euphoric during her concerts that they cant remember details of the show. https://abcnews.go.com/amp/GMA/Wellness/taylor-swift-fans-experienced-post-concert-amnesia-luck/story?id=103839859 --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. <cite>bigblu89 posted [p:980116267] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>ViewtifulGrave posted... </cite><quote>???</quote>Eras amnesia is basically girls becoming so euphoric during her concerts that they cant remember details of the show. https://abcnews.go.com/amp/GMA/Wellness/taylor-swift-fans-experienced-post-concert-amnesia-luck/story?id=103839859 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Link_of_time 04/27/24 12:00:34 AM #42:	She's popular among a certain demographic(I've been warned for discussing them). I would say that she's certainly the closest this gen has a to Michael Jackson. She's definitely the biggest artist since. <cite>Link_of_time posted [p:980116373] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>She's popular among a certain demographic(I've been warned for discussing them). I would say that she's certainly the closest this gen has a to Michael Jackson. She's definitely the biggest artist since.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsucaHayashi 04/27/24 9:10:13 AM #43:	Blbmbr666 posted... The fact that there hasn't been a response to this ends the argument IMO. lol i remember a topic on CE saying gaga's bad romance was this gen's thriller and it kinda seems like it. but yeah, does swift even have a song she'll be remembered for the moment her name comes up or is it just a string of "really good but not quite there" songs? --- http://abload.de/img/pcgamingxtuvt.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9Yv0R2Z.jpg <cite>AsucaHayashi posted [p:980119925] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>Blbmbr666 posted... </cite><quote>The fact that there hasn't been a response to this ends the argument IMO.</quote>lol i remember a topic on CE saying gaga's bad romance was this gen's thriller and it kinda seems like it.but yeah, does swift even have a song she'll be remembered for the moment her name comes up or is it just a string of "really good but not quite there" songs? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Akuryu 04/27/24 9:26:41 AM #44:	The Beatles, Elvis, Michael Jackson and others have sold more albums, but they've also had decades more time to sell albums than Taylor Swift. She's the most popular musician alive today, and she's still relatively young. That she's even in the conversation is impressive. <cite>Akuryu posted [p:980120069] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>The Beatles, Elvis, Michael Jackson and others have sold more albums, but they've also had decades more time to sell albums than Taylor Swift. She's the most popular musician alive today, and she's still relatively young. That she's even in the conversation is impressive. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Link_of_time 04/27/24 9:45:24 AM #45:	AsucaHayashi posted... lol i remember a topic on CE saying gaga's bad romance was this gen's thriller and it kinda seems like it. but yeah, does swift even have a song she'll be remembered for the moment her name comes up or is it just a string of "really good but not quite there" songs? That's actually a great point. As big as she's become, i cant think of a single new song of hers. The closest i get is "Shake it off". I'd say her legacy lies in her battle against the recording industry. She really set a new standard there and actually won. I'd say she essentially is Madonna rather than Michael. <cite>Link_of_time posted [p:980120246] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>AsucaHayashi posted... </cite><quote>lol i remember a topic on CE saying gaga's bad romance was this gen's thriller and it kinda seems like it.but yeah, does swift even have a song she'll be remembered for the moment her name comes up or is it just a string of "really good but not quite there" songs?</quote>That's actually a great point. As big as she's become, i cant think of a single new song of hers. The closest i get is "Shake it off". I'd say her legacy lies in her battle against the recording industry. She really set a new standard there and actually won.I'd say she essentially is Madonna rather than Michael.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 04/27/24 9:50:03 AM #46:	Baron_Ox posted... plus, Mike Jack has sold more than her overall: Sales is not a great metric anymore because millions of people just use Spotify/YouTube/something else. It was also way harder to pirate music during MJ's prime. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:980120297] in Is Taylor ... [t:80756274]...</cite> <quote>Baron_Ox posted... </cite><quote>plus, Mike Jack has sold more than her overall:</quote>Sales is not a great metric anymore because millions of people just use Spotify/YouTube/something else. It was also way harder to pirate music during MJ's prime. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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