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mystic_belmont
04/30/24 9:41:09 AM
#151:


devilminion posted...
What's the over/under on him holding a rally and/or going golfing on that day?

He's not going to go, and then the judge is not going to be lenient in the future.

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CableZL
04/30/24 9:41:14 AM
#152:


https://twitter.com/hugolowell/status/1785303062837424604

There's still a hearing on Thursday about more gag order violations. I wouldn't expect more than fines there as well.

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divot1338
04/30/24 9:42:08 AM
#153:


mystic_belmont posted...
The defense probably sees a chance to sow doubt with Cohen.
Prosecution will let them try. Then they point out Trump hired him and that this has all been proven in a court case.
Plus he admitted it on television.

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Euripides
04/30/24 9:42:48 AM
#154:


Merchan orders Trump to take down all Truth posts that violate the gag order

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Takuya_Lee
04/30/24 9:53:53 AM
#155:


Euripides posted...
Merchan orders Trump to take down all Truth posts that violate the gag order

But that's all my posts..err... I mean I didn't violate the gag order. You violated the gag order!

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ScarfForLife
04/30/24 9:54:45 AM
#156:


So stupid. 9k? I mean, I didnt expect much else but put his ass in jail ffs.

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CableZL
04/30/24 9:55:36 AM
#157:


https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1785306056756761083

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littlebro07
04/30/24 9:58:18 AM
#158:


ScarfForLife posted...
So stupid. 9k? I mean, I didnt expect much else but put his ass in jail ffs.

iirc the max fine by law is only 1k per offense

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GranAures
04/30/24 10:04:20 AM
#159:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1785306056756761083
Dew it.

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UltimateWing
04/30/24 10:04:48 AM
#160:


I hope the judge follows through with the jail threat, because everyone knows Trump will violate the gag order again.

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Takuya_Lee
04/30/24 10:04:52 AM
#161:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1785306056756761083

That would be cute for 45 to be quiet. Well if he had the ability to take cues. I see this as the judge's hands being tied due to the law and also having to work it up to jail time instead of starting with it straight away.

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dummy420
04/30/24 10:05:16 AM
#162:


Yeah that can hurt your standard person but even with whatever Trumps actual wealth is he can keep that up for a long time with 1000.

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Irony
04/30/24 10:05:21 AM
#163:


He won't follow through

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Euripides
04/30/24 10:06:23 AM
#164:


He has until 2:15 to take them down, so they will absolutely stay up until 2:15

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Takuya_Lee
04/30/24 10:08:08 AM
#165:


Irony posted...
He won't follow through

I disagree. I think he will follow through

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Cemith
04/30/24 10:08:46 AM
#166:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1785306056756761083

Oh my god please.

Even Merchan knows that 1000 are drops in a bucket.

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Shadow_Don
04/30/24 10:09:04 AM
#167:


Hurry the fuck up and throw that freak in jail

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CableZL
04/30/24 10:09:06 AM
#168:


What's the over/under on how long it will take Trump to violate the gag order again?

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Cemith
04/30/24 10:09:20 AM
#169:


CableZL posted...
What's the over/under on how long it will take Trump to violate the gag order again?

When's lunch break today?

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mystic_belmont
04/30/24 10:11:21 AM
#170:


It's smart to use the transactions to speak rather than Cohen.

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CableZL
04/30/24 10:29:44 AM
#171:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b785d186.jpg


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ScarfForLife
04/30/24 10:46:39 AM
#172:


littlebro07 posted...
iirc the max fine by law is only 1k per offense

Right which is an absolute joke. So the only other option is to just jail his ass already.

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Cemith
04/30/24 10:49:14 AM
#173:


CableZL posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b785d186.jpg

This is exactly the kind of thing the people whining about "the banks got paid?" are neglecting.

It's about how the bank would consider different risks because of the terms of the agreement.

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CableZL
04/30/24 10:55:50 AM
#174:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e1a5050b.jpg

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mystic_belmont
04/30/24 10:56:56 AM
#175:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1785321974496920061

And Daniels would not have been paid, and she likely would have gone elsewhere to tell her story.

Cohen did this all at the direction of Trump.

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CableZL
04/30/24 10:59:15 AM
#176:


https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1785322873873166472

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darkace77450
04/30/24 11:31:58 AM
#177:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/hugolowell/status/1785303062837424604

A $9,000 fine will surely teach the recalcitrant billionaire not to do it again.

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Euripides
04/30/24 11:54:06 AM
#178:


Defense is causing this trial to go on much longer than it needs to, as it won't concede to any stipulations (i.e. EVERYTHING is "you say X, prove it!!"

Thus, we have people being called to the stand to simply verify that records are records and videos are videos.

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Takuya_Lee
04/30/24 12:03:06 PM
#179:


darkace77450 posted...
A $9,000 fine will surely teach the recalcitrant billionaire not to do it again.

Take that up with the legislature. His hands are tied when it comes to fines and putting him in jail is tricky because 45 is trying to to martyr himself. Though this could be solved if his smart phone was taken away for the duration of the trial and he was given a dumb phone.

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CableZL
04/30/24 12:45:20 PM
#180:


https://twitter.com/JordanOnRecord/status/1785349046397211044

A lot of these people are very lucky that the capitol police officers showed so much restraint. An elderly woman physically fighting police could have ended really badly for her.

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CableZL
04/30/24 1:00:04 PM
#181:


https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1785348440513204585

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Cemith
04/30/24 1:25:08 PM
#182:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1785348440513204585

Sleepy Joe eatin' good tonight

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Sandalorn
04/30/24 1:41:11 PM
#183:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1785348440513204585


Him falling asleep every day can't be a good look for the jury.
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MLBloomy
04/30/24 1:44:08 PM
#184:


Takuya_Lee posted...
Take that up with the legislature. His hands are tied when it comes to fines and putting him in jail is tricky because 45 is trying to to martyr himself. Though this could be solved if his smart phone was taken away for the duration of the trial and he was given a dumb phone.
If the legislature were to pass a new law updating the upper limit of a fine, could that take effect during this trial, or would he be grandfathered in to the current law's limits because that was the state of things at the start of the trial? If there was a mistrial, would a new law apply to a new trial?
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CableZL
04/30/24 1:45:21 PM
#185:


https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1785364377031369090

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littlebro07
04/30/24 2:13:44 PM
#186:


Sandalorn posted...
Him falling asleep every day can't be a good look for the jury.

unless some of them see it like "aw look at this poor old man they're just bullying him, poor guy can't even get enough sleep"

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Alucard188
04/30/24 2:18:58 PM
#187:


Sandalorn posted...
Him falling asleep every day can't be a good look for the jury.

Remember how people were worried that he was going to use his criminal trials as a way to campaign for November? Well, we're seeing the campaigning right now. Just the strong and virile Donald J. Trump falling asleep multiple times a day.

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Rexdragon125
04/30/24 2:35:18 PM
#189:


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-fined-9-000-for-violating-gag-order-in-new-york-hush-money-trial/ar-AA1nVBVj
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Sandalorn
04/30/24 2:38:10 PM
#190:


littlebro07 posted...
unless some of them see it like "aw look at this poor old man they're just bullying him, poor guy can't even get enough sleep"


Ya...that really doesn't work with Ex-Presidents and the current Republican Candidate. This isn't some kind 80 year old here.
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UltimateWing
04/30/24 2:57:24 PM
#191:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1785364377031369090

He surrendered. Again.


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divot1338
04/30/24 3:13:53 PM
#192:


MLBloomy posted...
If the legislature were to pass a new law updating the upper limit of a fine, could that take effect during this trial, or would he be grandfathered in to the current law's limits because that was the state of things at the start of the trial? If there was a mistrial, would a new law apply to a new trial?
No, no and it would be ridiculously unconstitutional to pass a law for one billionaire.

The law is the way it is by design because New York cares about bail and sentence reform.

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TheGoldenEel
04/30/24 3:48:09 PM
#193:


divot1338 posted...
No, no and it would be ridiculously unconstitutional to pass a law for one billionaire.

The law is the way it is by design because New York cares about bail and sentence reform.
Seems like capping it is the opposite of reform

seems like it should be a percentage of earnings or net worth or somethkng

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Cemith
04/30/24 3:54:22 PM
#194:


UltimateWing posted...
He surrendered. Again.

He just keeps on winning

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RchHomieQuanChi
04/30/24 3:57:03 PM
#195:


Trump is quickly realizing no one's gonna let his bullshit fly on a criminal case.

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darkace77450
04/30/24 4:01:59 PM
#196:


Remember all those reports from White House insiders about Trump showing up to work at 11:00 am and bailing at 4:00 pm? Having to be in court at 9:00 in the morning and having to stay into well in the afternoon has to be torture for him. Hopefully it's just a prelude to the schedule he'll be forced to keep as an inmate.
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Alucard188
04/30/24 4:10:16 PM
#197:


darkace77450 posted...
Remember all those reports from White House insiders about Trump showing up to work at 11:00 am and bailing at 4:00 pm? Having to be in court at 9:00 in the morning and having to stay into well in the afternoon has to be torture for him. Hopefully it's just a prelude to the schedule he'll be forced to keep as an inmate.

The dude never had to do an honest day's work in his life. This is the closest thing to work he's done. You just have to sit there and listen. Instead, he has the attention span and energy levels of my recently deceased 77-year-old father, who was confined to a wheelchair and diabetic.

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MLBloomy
04/30/24 4:10:31 PM
#198:


divot1338 posted...
No, no and it would be ridiculously unconstitutional to pass a law for one billionaire.

The law is the way it is by design because New York cares about bail and sentence reform.
What would be unconstitutional about updating a law when there are limits or loopholes that can be potentially exploited by bad faith actors?

Was it unconstitutional to update the Electoral Count Act to explicitly state that the VP's role in the counting of Electoral Votes is ceremonial and that they cannot reject votes after some in Trump's orbit wanted to try that tactic?

The first section of the 25th Amendment says "In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President." Why did that need to be passed in the mid-1960s? Because there was discussion about whether a VP actually becomes President or merely acts and serves as President in those instances (like in recent administrations when a President underwent anesthesia and the powers temporarily shifted to the VP), with some stating you only become President by winning an election.

Does Section 2 of the 25th Amendment provide a loophole around the 2 term limit set in the 22nd? The 22nd Amendment only sets limits for being "elected", so a strict reading of the text would allow a 2 termer to fill a VP vacancy through Senate confirmation and then potentially become President again. Same thing for the rest of the line of succession. The qualifications set in Article 2 (natural born citizen, 35 years old, 14 year resident) use "eligible" instead, so Madeleine Albright would've been skipped when she was Secretary of State.
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UltimateWing
04/30/24 4:45:11 PM
#199:


https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1785362154117570765

What is he doing here?

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dummy420
04/30/24 4:46:23 PM
#200:


UltimateWing posted...
https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1785362154117570765

What is he doing here?
He gassed himself out.

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