Board 8 > Toy Story Mafia Topic 6: Avoiding Yet Another Yard Sale

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htaeD
04/24/24 2:49:24 PM
#152:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Btw of all the posts regarding the dead godfather this one from Death feels the most "woe is me my scummate got killed minute 1"

I dont like how you remove the context from that post, FD

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htaeD
04/24/24 2:49:55 PM
#153:


Obellisk posted...
someone else definitely said it first. I thought Lea said it. Maybe It was you?

Honestly people were debating it since signups I think

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Forceful_Dragon
04/24/24 2:59:37 PM
#154:


htaeD posted...
I dont like how you remove the context from that post, FD

You mean this

ItzKnightz posted...
Lea doesn't act like scum compared to Red and IGCD.


I don't see how that affects your tone sounding salty AF about it

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htaeD
04/24/24 3:12:36 PM
#155:


Nah the only thing I get salty about is being mislynched for being myself.

There I was expressing bafflement at the statement by Knightz is all.
Alltho maybe I do pity IGCD just a bit. I am too nice.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/24/24 3:14:46 PM
#156:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Its happened before. Boko famously did it more than once.

13 year olds dont even know this site exists. Theres no way one of them randomly found us and signed up for their first ever forum mafia. Ive been trying to avoid going here until after the game ends, but its just the truth.

We lynch him, then if he flips scum and the game doesnt end we lynch FD tomorrow.

Once again, leaving Knightz alive is the only way his role can get proven to exist tonight OR he has to continue to be roleblocked (or pretending to be roleblocked) at the cost of allowing you to survive.

And YEAH it would explain a lot of the more "omg what is he even talking about" posts if he's just a veteran pretending to be a completely new human being, but having to solve the game by pretending someone is a completely covert lie isn't right and so if that IS what is happening then fuck it, this game doesn't count anyways.

But everything else about the early Knightz posts and the RB claims points to him most likely being town.

But apparently you want to (probably) mislynch Knightz only to get yourself KILLED tonight (when Ben is roleblocked, or pretends to be roleblocked) and for us to get NOTHING in return.

HOW DO I HAVE TO EXPLAIN THIS SO MANY TIMES

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Forceful_Dragon
04/24/24 3:17:38 PM
#157:


htaeD posted...
Alltho maybe I do pity IGCD just a bit.

I do understand that and personally think we should have a house rule where day vigs can't be fired during the first half of day 1 because it creates a very anti-fun experience for at least one person.

I've seen similar things in among us groups where most people generally agree that the sheriff isn't "allowed" to shoot someone right out of the gate (with some flexibility being allowed for amusing circumstances). But at least in Among Us if you are the sheriff and you shoot someone who isn't an Imposter you are the one who dies instead. So it's a much more committal action than picking a name, hoping they are scum and either way deleting someone from the game that only just started.

But that's something to discuss more between games <_<

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htaeD
04/24/24 3:20:29 PM
#158:


Yeah thats why I made my recent dayvig a day2 dayvig
Still resulted in hilarity for town and scum in a way.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/24/24 3:20:39 PM
#159:


The only people who should even be getting considered today is Death, SBell and myself. Full stop.

Personally I'm not considering myself, but I understand that the rest of you will have to consider my play and act accordingly. To me the reasons I'm town are myriad and obvious, but "do your own research" or whatever.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/24/24 3:30:40 PM
#160:


I would say that probably the worst case scenario for us is "1 scum left" and "it's Ben or Lea"

In which case two lynches from the pool of Death/SBell/Me will bring us to a very difficult final 3. Not unwinnable, but not ideal either.

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htaeD
04/24/24 3:44:59 PM
#162:


Well in the interest of decisions I should say I will be going away in a little less than 2 hours
I dont ask for everyone to make their vote in that time of course. But it will be difficult for my own vote.

Its like: I want to vote FD, I may need to vote Sbell.

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Obellisk
04/24/24 3:46:26 PM
#163:


htaeD posted...
Well in the interest of decisions I should say I will be going away in a little less than 2 hours
I dont ask for everyone to make their vote in that time of course. But it will be difficult for my own vote.

Its like: I want to vote FD, I may need to vote Sbell.

how about you think less of self preservation and more about who you believe scum actually is of the two of us.

Only scum would care to keep themselves alive over lynching scum.

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Obellisk
04/24/24 3:46:49 PM
#164:


that last sentence came out weird but it means what I want it to.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/24/24 3:47:15 PM
#165:


So what has scum done with their roleblock?

PRETEND to target their own clothes vendor three times in a row?

THAT is the call?

And you have to combine that with Knightz actually being a veteran in disguise, which is the most not-really-part-of-the-game logic that we would have to use? Because if that is true then absolutely screw this game.

Like I'm honestly at my wit's end here and I'm just DONE trying to convince you of the most basic shit. Do whatever you want. I think Death is the best option today, marginally better than Sbell and do whatever the hell you want. As a group you have broken me this game. I'm just a town screaming into the endless void of chaos that is bombarding me from nearly every direction.

##Vote: Death

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Forceful_Dragon
04/24/24 3:48:12 PM
#166:


That was a response to Ulti's post 161 if it wasn't obvious.

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Obellisk
04/24/24 3:48:22 PM
#167:


you must understand I need you to be scum and I need to be right

I fucking need it man. things are rough. give me a win here.

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htaeD
04/24/24 3:49:34 PM
#168:


You're right. I should not let the last game get me so tilted anymore.

If I die, then I should at least die pointing at who I want to die next.

##Vote: FD

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htaeD
04/24/24 3:50:51 PM
#169:


Obellisk posted...
you must understand I need you to be scum and I need to be right

I fucking need it man. things are rough. give me a win here.

Well now I feel like a dick for telling you, you're wrong.

But if it helps, I understand the position you are in because I am in it as well.

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htaeD
04/24/24 3:51:34 PM
#170:


And whatever FD is, he is also right.
Knightz is just town.

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Obellisk
04/24/24 3:52:14 PM
#171:


lol.

we're all wrong. Host fucked up masons. ulti is laughing his ass off right now.

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htaeD
04/24/24 3:53:43 PM
#172:


If there ever is a game that breaks masons, it might as well be this one.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/24/24 3:54:29 PM
#173:


If it's actually just one of Ben/Lea then whoever is still alive in the final 3 will have to figure it out, but otherwise I have to believe that our pathetic amount of protection is telling the truth and that scum lives in you two. If you're somehow both town then it's 1 of Ben/Lea and it will probably be someone else's problem to figure that crap out.

But i'm done trying to explain to Ulti why we can't lynch Knightz today or how the roleblock could possibly play out to ensure that we at least LEARN something tonight, rather than the absolutely nothing that he is insistent on learning. Either about Ben or Knightz or both.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/24/24 3:55:13 PM
#174:


Obellisk posted...
lol.

we're all wrong. Host fucked up masons. ulti is laughing his ass off right now.

At this point I'm just LOOKING for a reason to declare for eternity that this game doesn't count.

Scum Mason or Vet-in-disguise would both do the trick as far as I'm concerned.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/24/24 3:56:11 PM
#176:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Jokes aside, everyone looking town probably does mean there's only one left.

I'm trying to figure out how a town BP fits a setup where scum can only kill every other night. If they hit her by accident that's 4 nights between deaths.

Between Scum and SK there is still a kill happening every night (with the Jack EK which could kill through BP)

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htaeD
04/24/24 3:58:23 PM
#178:


BP is at least a reason for scum to have a strongman
Not as much as BG, but still

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Forceful_Dragon
04/24/24 3:59:53 PM
#179:


UltimaterializerX posted...
BP is not protection.

"Every other night" throws typical protection logic out the window, so logically speaking Lea is the best lynch.

Yes but as usual you aren't considering the overall picture of Ben.

We still don't know if Ben is telling the truth. And if Ben is lying then Lea MUST be town.

Because at least ONE of those two roles MUST exist. I refuse to believe we have a town with absolutely no kill mitigation whatsoever.

And I can't believe I'm BOTHERING to explain this shit again, but that is why we NEED knightz and ben alive tonight, so scum can't block or pretend to block BOTH of them in the same night.

What about that scenario do you STILL NOT understand?

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ItzKnightz
04/24/24 4:00:27 PM
#180:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Yes but as usual you aren't considering the overall picture of Ben.

We still don't know if Ben is telling the truth. And if Ben is lying then Lea MUST be town.

Because at least ONE of those two roles MUST exist. I refuse to believe we have a town with absolutely no kill mitigation whatsoever.

And I can't believe I'm BOTHERING to explain this shit again, but that is why we NEED knightz and ben alive tonight, so scum can't block or pretend to block BOTH of them in the same night.

What about that scenario do you STILL NOT understand?
At least you get it.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/24/24 4:01:02 PM
#181:


I'm just a glutton for punishment. I can't help but roll the damn stone up the hill for the infinity'th time.

I'm gonna take a break and play some league because at least that will only PROBABLY be miserable rather than DEFINITELY being miserable.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/24/24 4:02:15 PM
#182:


ItzKnightz posted...
At least you get it.

Listen, if you aren't really a young new users then whoever you actually are? I am never speaking to you again. So I hope to God you aren't Chris because I actually really like him and if you are you need to say so now because you're about to do irreparable harm.

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ItzKnightz
04/24/24 4:04:53 PM
#183:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Listen, if you aren't really a young new users then whoever you actually are? I am never speaking to you again. So I hope to God you aren't Chris because I actually really like him and if you are you need to say so now because you're about to do irreparable harm.
Two things:
  1. Who's Chris?
  2. I am a new user, you can just check when I joined GameFAQs.

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htaeD
04/24/24 4:05:27 PM
#184:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
I'm just a glutton for punishment. I can't help but roll the damn stone up the hill for the infinity'th time.

I'm gonna take a break and play some league because at least that will only PROBABLY be miserable rather than DEFINITELY being miserable.

Sounds saner than doing cactuar minigames in FF7R to pass the time

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Obellisk
04/24/24 4:09:26 PM
#186:


ItzKnightz posted...
I am a new user, you can just check when I joined GameFAQs.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/56f12c0c.jpg

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ItzKnightz
04/24/24 4:10:19 PM
#187:


Obellisk posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/56f12c0c.jpg
LMAO

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Enchantress
04/24/24 4:11:04 PM
#189:


Obellisk posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/56f12c0c.jpg

Lmao I've been thinking that since before sign ups when he kept bumping topic 1 of a concluded game

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wallmasterz
04/24/24 4:21:08 PM
#191:


Updated Votals:

Death (2) - (Lea), (Ulti), (Knightz), (FD), Lea, FD
FD (2) - (Sbell), (Ulti), Knightz, Death
Lea (1) - (Ulti), (Ben), (Knightz), (Ulti), (Ulti), (Knightz), Ulti
Knightz (0) - (Ulti), (Ulti), (Ulti)
Sbell (0) - (Lea), (Knightz), (Ulti), (Lea), (FD)
Ben (0) - (Ulti)

Deadline is in 4.5ish hours.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/24/24 4:38:39 PM
#193:


No, because the claimed kill mitigation doesn't need to be resolved today. We learn by waiting.

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htaeD
04/24/24 4:46:30 PM
#195:


Also thinking that, flavorwise, we are still missing 2 villains.
But there being 2 scum left seems like a nightmare.

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Enchantress
04/24/24 4:46:42 PM
#196:


Gottem

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Forceful_Dragon
04/24/24 4:49:46 PM
#197:


Those votals are missing a vote on Ulti. It's a bit of a blur but I know at some point I had to explain to knightz what a JOKE was after he read Lea's wall and immediately voted Ulti.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/24/24 5:01:11 PM
#198:


Knightz would you care to explain why you still have a vote on me?

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ItzKnightz
04/24/24 5:02:18 PM
#199:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Knightz would you care to explain why you still have a vote on me?
I forgot to take it off.
##unvote

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ItzKnightz
04/24/24 5:04:42 PM
#200:


##vote: Death

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