Board 8 > Toy Story Mafia Topic 6: Avoiding Yet Another Yard Sale

(+) Yeah! (+)

And I am out.
In case you choose to lynch me, all I can say is good luck to the rest of town.

Updated Votals:

Death (3) - (Lea), (Ulti), (Knightz), (FD), Lea, FD, Knightz
FD (1) - (Sbell), (Ulti), (Knightz), Death
Lea (1) - (Ulti), (Ben), (Knightz), (Ulti), (Ulti), (Knightz), Ulti
Knightz (0) - (Ulti), (Ulti), (Ulti)
Sbell (0) - (Lea), (Knightz), (Ulti), (Lea), (FD)
Ben (0) - (Ulti)

Deadline is in 4ish hours.
1 vote to lynch.

You're right, death isn't good enough of a player to sound believable.

Oh wait, that's exactly one of the things he's known for. In addition to the fact that Sbell's "claw" play feels out character for his scum play, Death is just frankly the scariest player left in the game in terms of playing an out of his mind scum game.

I acknowledge I could be wrong, and he might be town. And in the scenario where it's just 1 scum left and it's Lea or Ben? well there was no realistic shot of hitting today anyways.

if you want to claim scum then by all means, we can lynch you.

But you didn't immediately break when Ben counterclaimed BP, and you came damn close to dying then. It was a good exchange for both you and Ben in my opinion and part of what will make it very difficult if it's exactly 1 of you in a final 3 situation.

But hopefully the scum of you would do me the honor of killing me and it will be SEP

Just to remind Knightz NOT to target ulti tonight.

Anyone else should be fair game. Ben should only die if Ulti doesn't, but if Ben dies that probably means Knightz was roleblocked again anyways :shrug:

Maybe Lea is town but what about Enchantress?

I do agree with and will honor FD's request that Lea is off the table for lynching today.

I caught up and tried to erase all preconceptions and former reads and only use new information from today to find the last scum. Ulti is right in that everyone alive has some good things going for them. I think the purest town are... (Besides Knightz and Ulti who are CONFIRMED town)

Forceful_Dragon posted...

As a group you have broken me this game. I'm just a town screaming into the endless void of chaos that is bombarding me from nearly every direction.

Obellisk posted...

you must understand I need you to be scum and I need to be right

I fucking need it man. things are rough. give me a win here.

I like the pure town angst displayed by these two in these two posts. I read it as very genuine.

That leaves us exactly right where we started....Lea and Death. If I am dead tomorrow, and game doesn't end today, I'd ask you to please kill the other tomorrow.

If there are two scum then its also Lea and Death so there's that too.

I still if there are two scum then we need both of your kill mitigation roles to be town

I think you have a point, but SK killing mafia was also a possibility so it makes balancing weird. Any kill prevention at all on town's side could be overkill. I think it makes 100% sense that SCUM has a BP

He isn't, only "mostly" confirmed

UltimaterializerX posted...

How is Knight confirmed?

He posted in the sign ups topic after the game started a question that could have been asked on scum board. There ya go

The stuff he's done in topic has seemed just as newbish and uncoached without having to use that type of metagaming

Forceful_Dragon posted...

if you want to claim scum then by all means, we can lynch you.

But you didn't immediately break when Ben counterclaimed BP, and you came damn close to dying then. It was a good exchange for both you and Ben in my opinion and part of what will make it very difficult if it's exactly 1 of you in a final 3 situation.

But hopefully the scum of you would do me the honor of killing me and it will be SEP

Yeah thats the best thing going for lea at the moment. I kind of expected she would give us the "GG" if she was scum, unless they knew I wasnt bulletproof ahead of time or something.

I dont get the same kind of "Town angst" vibes from Lea though saying that this game was already lost since the start of day 2. It gives me SCUM LEA vibes tbh. The more cynical the more scum ):<

Anyway, you deal with it tomorrow. I will vote Death today

busy night of dance, Play practice and dinner.

I'm back, I guess ita dearh then but I'm not looking forward to the following day phase.

I do really like FD today though. If there is one scum left, and they need 3 mislynches to win, then I dont think he should ever be considered possible scum going forward. I would even kill Sbell before FD. Here's why

We know that the last scum is very dubious and in a relatively safe position as long as they don't become the one lynched for like, 3 days. The way you have to do that is by laying low, but not too low, and keeping options open. I feel FD has taken a clear leadership role over the last 48 hours. I do not expect the final scum in this group to do that. FD has also been the most adamant about shutting down illogical paths, and talking down the confirmed town from doing crazy things. He talked Ulti down from lynching Knights and Knights down from lynching Ulti. If you are the last scum you need those golden opportunities,.

I also like how FD treats Knightz. Wants him to make the smartest possible play and not be a puppet for FD. This reads as very towny to me.

Obellisk posted...

but I'm not looking forward to the following day phase.

Once again you assume death's innocence and or imply knowledge that we're looking for 2 scum, not 1.

Tbh Ben, I needed to read that today

I'm going to have to at least consider that it's you buttering me up, but for now I'll imagine there are no ulterior motives.

And if anyone rebuttals saying why wouldn't scum want to drive the lynch, I do not think it is a scum move to put yourself out there as driving mislynch 1/3. Its too early for that, you'll just become target 2/3

...so lets get ahead of that and not Lynch FD tomorrow. Weird thing to say, but that's my feeling.

Unfortunately for our chances of Death being the last scum..... I don't feel like he wants the game to end while he is asleep >_>

He's done it before where if he's going to bed with that many votes he just tells us he's scum so the game can end when he's still awake, right? So he's either town or there's more than one scum left.

....or is that exactly what he wants us to think!?

I don't have any recollection of death-final-scum moments but I suppose that could be true.

Still bold of Sbell to be so confident that the game can't possibly end with today's lynch.

I'd probably shoot Lea if i could but i don't think it's strong enough of a feeling that it's worth convincing the whole game to stray from the path. We should still take Death out of all the remaining players.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Once again you assume death's innocence and or imply knowledge that we're looking for 2 scum, not 1.

more like, if there IS another day phase, it's going to be twice as miserable.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Still bold of Sbell to be so confident that the game can't possibly end with today's lynch.

I've always said that 4 scum with an alternating kill And a SK is doable

You do imply you think death is town though, no? That is the way your post read

Obellisk posted...

I've always said that 4 scum with an alternating kill And a SK is doable

I agree, but I tend to think it would require both Bodyguard and Bulletproof to be town.

Which is why it becomes specifically you and death as the two scum for me. But that's only IF it's two scum, something I can't know for sure.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Why does scum Lea ever claim BP?

If she is scum it's because (A) no town had claimed kill mitigation yet and (B) she picked up what I was putting down about Slink seeming like an odd vanilla claim.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Why does scum Lea ever claim BP?

Because no protection for town at all existed, so it was a prime moment to claim confirmed town who can never be killed. Remember I kept my role a secret until after she claimed. Also it would probably be her real role which adds some bias to what scum wants to claim. They just love claiming their real role

And let's be honest vanilla Lea gets lynched today 11 times out of 10

Anyways unless we have some new rocks to look under, I think we're ready to find out Death's alignment if one of you wants to make it so.

PunishedBen posted...

You do imply you think death is town though, no? That is the way your post read

it's more lack of confidence and going against my gut which says it should be fd.

I've said what I wanted to. Just remember me if I die. That is all.

##Marry FD
##Kill Lea
##Fuck Death

Obellisk posted...

pretty sure is death or fd.

I don't care the orser we lynch them.

My how far you've come in 30 hours

To be fair I also started the day saying Lea and Death
;0;

And death did... what exactly to become so much more likely to be town in your eyes?

Oh that was Ben replying <_<

If you don't remember I'm not telling you again

To prolong her misery. Why kill scum when you can make them suffer

I'm suffering a lot right now