Current Events > When is Youtube gonna crack down on the see through clothes haul channels?

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It is kind of dishonest to just wear a bunch of transparent dresses with a bunch of holes in it and no underwear under the guise of a try-on haul in hopes that people click on your actual paid porn. Reminds me of those twitch streamers who are always trying to skirt around the rules by finding new ways to show off their ass/tits.

Idk if it's an actual prude thing since most people don't have a problem with porn in other spaces. People would probably be more okay with it if they were openly advertising their sites in earnest without the thin veil of gaming/hauls/whatever. But since that's obviously not allowed on these websites they instead do this intellectually dishonest shit which is what's going to cause the reactions of topics like these since people don't like to feel disrespected.

Guide posted...

A tangent, but I've seen more fucked up stuff in the "kids" section than just browsing normally. There's a whole niche culture of making the most fucked up thing you can figure and disguising it as kid friendly. Fucking, Sonic family abuse series. I think it got taken down, but youtube's track record with that sort of thing is spotty.

Then, again, it's on the parent to monitor what their kid is watching. If, as a parent, you notice a few too many not-kid-appropriate videos sneaking onto YouTube Kids, then maybe delete that app from the kid's iPad/phone/streaming TV.

Plus, keeping specific to what TC is talking about, there's FAR worse things a kid can stumble upon on the internet than a woman showing skin and (assuming he they are accurate in their assessment) linking their video to an adult site that the kid probably couldn't get access to anyway.

bigblu89 posted...

Then, again, it's on the parent to monitor what their kid is watching. If, as a parent, you notice a few too many not-kid-appropriate videos sneaking onto YouTube Kids, then maybe delete that app from the kid's iPad/phone/streaming TV.

Plus, keeping specific to what TC is talking about, there's FAR worse things a kid can stumble upon on the internet than a woman showing skin and (assuming he they are accurate in their assessment) linking their video to an adult site that the kid probably couldn't get access to anyway.

This isn't exactly the 1990s or even early 2000s where watching your kids content is easy. Especially with those pushing for edgy content in what should be a safe platform. To be clear, I'm not saying parents shouldn't be watching their kids. But there seems to be a push from certain people to push edgy sexual content on platforms where children generally frequent, them disingenuously act like sex workers are under attack or people are being "prudes."

Also people are pointing at YouTube Kids, as if it's content directed towards all age. As if Normal YouTube isnt a platform for kids too. Normal YouTube is not a platform that's hidden behind a 18+ consent wall. So it's not honest to spin YouTube Kids as if the Normal YouTube is directed towards just adults.

I haven't personally seen the content the TC is talking about, but if it's bordering softcore porn, we aren't exactly being honest about it "just showing some skin."

If YouTube is going the OF route, then it needs to lock such content behind an age consent wall. Advertising also needs to be regulated because again, people talk "watching your kids" as if it's the 90s.

Regulating a more internet savvy generation becomes troublesome when you have a disingenuous coalition of people pushing sexual content in spaces what many thought was safe. Especially when regulating access is becoming more and more difficult given how readily available content is on multiple assets and platforms including even work arounds. Including the advertisement of it, which again sparks curiosity.

LightningThief posted...

If YouTube is going the OF route, then it needs to lock such content behind an age consent wall. Advertising also needs to be regulated because again, people talk "watching your kids" as if it's the 90s.

Channels that are set as kids channels, don't make ad revenue. So many of these channels mark themselves as not for kids while making kid focus content and throw in adult jokes and themes into their content so youtube doesn't set them as a kids channel.

People are blatantly abusing youtube's system to make money off of kids.

This whole "parents need to be watching their what their kids watch" sounds good in theory, but often parents have their own stuff they need to do and can't spend every waking moment making sure the videos a kid is watching is friendly when people are going through such lengths to skirt around systems in place to protect children in the first place.

Plus sites do exist for the kind of content people clearly want, youtube does not have to be a space for it as well.

LightningThief posted...

This isn't exactly the 1990s or even early 2000s where watching your kids content is easy.

It's actually easier.

Shared parent/children accounts literally let the parent chose what apps and sites kids can and can't go on, how long they can be on said apps/sites, and what times of the day they can be on them. And you don't even need to have the device in your hand. My son is 15, and he STILL needs my permission to add an app on his phone, make a purchase, or use his phone past 11pm on a weeknight.

As a parent, if you know what you're doing, limiting what your child sees is easier than ever.

Only caveat to that is you cannot control what other children show them, but there's only so much you can control.

LightningThief posted...

I haven't personally seen the content the TC is talking about, but if it's bordering softcore porn, we aren't exactly being honest about it "just showing some skin."

If YouTube is going the OF route, then it needs to lock such content behind an age consent wall. Advertising also needs to be regulated because again, people talk "watching your kids" as if it's the 90s.

Some are age restricted. Some aren't. Some are just topless.Some show gentalia and change during the video.

No one has named a name so far. So I have to assume naming these channels are against the rules so can't give examples of everything.

Kids should only be using YT4KIDS tbh. Parents do have an obligation to ensure their kids are safe online.

bigblu89 posted...

It's actually easier.

Shared parent/children accounts literally let the parent chose what apps and sites kids can and can't go on, how long they can be on said apps/sites, and what times of the day they can be on them. And you don't even need to have the device in your hand. My son is 15, and he STILL needs my permission to add an app on his phone, make a purchase, or use his phone past 11pm on a weeknight.

As a parent, if you know what you're doing, limiting what your child sees is easier than ever.

Only caveat to that is you cannot control what other children show them, but there's only so much you can control.

The hubris of thinking your capable of doing any such thing

Just report it and move on. Youtube is very slow when trying to catch bad actors. Ultimately it's their responsibility, not yours to worry about.

SHRlKE posted...

Kids should only be using YT4KIDS tbh. Parents do have an obligation to ensure their kids are safe online.

YouTube Kids is terribly moderated there's a ton of stuff on there that's completely inappropriate. People should block both YouTube and YouTube Kids on any device they've given their kid access to.

divot1338 posted...

The hubris of thinking your capable of doing any such thing

I can only control what I can control, and what my children watch/download on devices I purchased for them is in my control.

Are there ways around them? Maybe. Are my kids smart enough to know them? I don't know.

Do I feel like my kids are the type that live such a sheltered life that they would feel the need to circumvent certain restrictions that I've put on them? No, becasue I'm rather lenient with what I allow my children to watch. That, along with having a MUCH more open relationship with my children than my parents did with me and my sister, I feel like they would have no issues hiding their viewing habits from us.

Youtube has always been really weird as to what it does and doesn't moderate. Some of it is simply the full scope of the site is impossible to control without bots, but other stuff seems to just be arbitrarily enforced. I wouldn't be surprised if they have an algorithm with a money to controversy ratio.

I've been seeing near-naked fashion shows on my recommended. The last one they were wearing tape. It was nice.

Prestoff posted...

Just report it and move on. Youtube is very slow when trying to catch bad actors. Ultimately it's their responsibility, not yours to worry about.

A lot of those videos are getting 100K to 1 million views. YouTube isn't going to take them down with all the traffic they bring.

I also saw the tape fashion show one! They had it for more than one day

This whole topic is basically just a giant example of how patriarchal misogyny has succeeded in demonizing and tabooing womens bodies in the first place.

Godnorgosh posted...

If you're hot enough to rake in the views it'll be a slap on the wrist from YT and Twitch

Facts.

SHRlKE posted...

This is starting to get into wont someone think of the children territory.

No, that's firmly in the territory of don't let YouTube babysit your kids because they have absolutely shit moderation and you'd have to helicopter parent any time they're on a tablet.

Not sure why some people have trouble understanding the distinction.

Why are y'all still going on about kids when no one has even tried to justify why people should be allowed to advertise porn on youtube to begin with? Whether kids can see it is completely beside the point.

specialkid8 posted...

Why are y'all still going on about kids when no one has even tried to justify why people should be allowed to advertise porn on youtube to begin with? Whether kids can see it is completely beside the point.

Because unless you're the most conservative of conservatives, no one cares.

If an adult stumbles upon it, they either go "oh, that's odd" and move on, or are into it and seek out more videos.

So the concern then falls on whether it is age-appropriate material. Otherwise it's just needless peral clutching.

bigblu89 posted...

It takes zero effort to be a good person.

false

Whiterun_Guard_ posted...

false

For you, maybe.

bigblu89 posted...

Because unless you're the most conservative of conservatives, no one cares.

If an adult stumbles upon it, they either go "oh, that's odd" and move on, or are into it and seek out more videos.

So the concern then falls on whether it is age-appropriate material. Otherwise it's just needless pearl clutching.

It's not even about prudishness. These women are gaming the system and pretending to be actual content creators in order to sell porn. How is that not strange to you? Complaining about "twitchthots" is all the rage. Why are they protected on youtube?

specialkid8 posted...

It's not even about prudishness. These women are gaming the system and pretending to be actual content creators in order to sell porn. How is that not strange to you? Complaining about "twitchthots" is all the rage. Why are they protected on youtube?

Strange? No.

Maybe it's becasue I don't really encounter them. I see it happening on Facebook more than on YouTube. But either way, it doesn't bother me in the least. I treat it like any other video I have no interest in seeing. I just swipe past it an go on with my day.

specialkid8 posted...

It's not even about prudishness. These women are gaming the system and pretending to be actual content creators in order to sell porn. How is that not strange to you? Complaining about "twitchthots" is all the rage. Why are they protected on youtube?

Because most of us have better things to do with our lives than clutch our pearls about how women decide to make a living. Maybe try finding a hobby or something.

bigblu89 posted...

For you, maybe.

lol touch

specialkid8 posted...
It's not even about prudishness. These women are gaming the system and pretending to be actual content creators in order to sell porn.

Exposed breasts =/= Porn.

So, I had a look and I just can't get excited about this.

In many ways.

If you want to start a moral panic, find something more interesting. This ain't it.

specialkid8 posted...

It's not even about prudishness. These women are gaming the system and pretending to be actual content creators in order to sell porn. How is that not strange to you? Complaining about "twitchthots" is all the rage. Why are they protected on youtube?

People who complain about twitchots are also pearl clutchers who voted for Trump, an actual rapist.

I can't take them seriously about anything they pretend to care about.

ooger posted...

People who complain about twitchots are also pearl clutchers who voted for Trump

I think that those folks should get off of Youtube and Twitter and I won't be caught dead voting for any Republican.

Their try-ons are very transparent in their pandering

Why should it. Most channels are used as direct advertisements for something. This is just for their porn. Nothing wrong with what they're doing

bigblu89 posted...

It's actually easier.

Shared parent/children accounts literally let the parent chose what apps and sites kids can and can't go on, how long they can be on said apps/sites, and what times of the day they can be on them. And you don't even need to have the device in your hand. My son is 15, and he STILL needs my permission to add an app on his phone, make a purchase, or use his phone past 11pm on a weeknight.

As a parent, if you know what you're doing, limiting what your child sees is easier than ever.

Only caveat to that is you cannot control what other children show them, but there's only so much you can control.

Sorry to tell you, your son just isn't resourceful or tech savvy for his generation. Likely in a bubble I hope doesn't pop.

It is most definitely not "easier" given how versatile and readily available and workarounds available to view content.

If what BlueTigerLion said is true, the people advocating this type of content absolutely needs to be readily available on YouTube, are exactly the type of disingenuous people I'm talking about.

It's disingenuous to act like normal YouTube is for adults when it (the non Kids YouTube) is most definitely aimed at children as well. As normal YouTube is literally not hidden by an age consent wall.

they have these weird script voiceovers that feel like they're AI generated too

LightningThief posted...

Sorry to tell you, your son just isn't resourceful or tech savvy for his generation. Likely in a bubble I hope doesn't pop.

It is most definitely not "easier" given how versatile and readily available and workarounds available to view content.

If what BlueTigerLion said is true, the people advocating this type of content absolutely needs to be readily available on YouTube, are exactly the type of disingenuous people I'm talking about.

It's disingenuous to act like normal YouTube is for adults when it (the non Kids YouTube) is most definitely aimed at children as well. As normal YouTube is literally not hidden by an age consent wall.

My wife and I are just very open and honest with our children, to the point where they dont feel the need to hide anything from us. At least I dont think they do.

Plus, its not like I restrict all that much. They have YouTube. My sons 15, and I remember what I was thinking about when I was 15. So for me to sit here and think any restrictions I put on him are truly stopping him from seeing certain things would just be naive on my part.

Doesn't mean I shouldnt at least TRY to shield him as much as I can, combined with open dialogue about things he may be curious about.

bigblu89 posted...

My wife and I are just very open and honest with our children, to the point where they dont feel the need to hide anything from us. At least I dont think they do.

Plus, its not like I restrict all that much. They have YouTube. My sons 15, and I remember what I was thinking about when I was 15. So for me to sit here and think any restrictions I put on him are truly stopping him from seeing certain things would just be naive on my part.

Doesn't mean I shouldnt at least TRY to shield him as much as I can, combined with open dialogue about things he may be curious about.

Ya, the sounds like he either lives in a bubble that keeps him innocent, or he doesn't live in a bubble and knows more than he's letting on.

The latter in particular wouldn't shock me (this 100% is not a shot at you, many children are more savvy than their parents.)

There are many workarounds and versatile ways to watch content without your parents being none the wiser.

LightningThief posted...

Ya, the sounds like he either lives in a bubble that keeps him innocent, or he doesn't live in a bubble and knows more than he's letting on.

The latter in particular wouldn't shock me (this 100% is not a shot at you, many children are more savvy than their parents.)

There are many workarounds and versatile ways to watch content without your parents being none the wiser.

Oh, 100%. I remember what I was doing at 15. Like I said, it would be naive of me to think he isnt figuring things out on his own as well.

I can only control so much.

LightningThief posted...

Ya, the sounds like he either lives in a bubble that keeps him innocent, or he doesn't live in a bubble and knows more than he's letting on.

The latter in particular wouldn't shock me (this 100% is not a shot at you, many children are more savvy than their parents.)

There are many workarounds and versatile ways to watch content without your parents being none the wiser.

This depends on the parents, what kind of network they have, and how savvy they are. If the kids at the house and you know what youre doing with a firewall like Opnsense / PFsense, nah you could put his devices on its own VLAN thats only allowed to access a whitelist of 5 sites if you want to.

Granted, this isnt going to apply to most parents, and its not going to stop anything he does on his phone outside the house, but this is mitigated by most people not wanting to watch that sort of shit without privacy.

Plus, only a totalitarian fuckwad would do it anyway. Im just saying the technical capability exists if you have the money for a good network and the tech savvy to manage it properly.

LightningThief posted...

Sorry to tell you, your son just isn't resourceful or tech savvy for his generation. Likely in a bubble I hope doesn't pop.

It is most definitely not "easier" given how versatile and readily available and workarounds available to view content.

If what BlueTigerLion said is true, the people advocating this type of content absolutely needs to be readily available on YouTube, are exactly the type of disingenuous people I'm talking about.

It's disingenuous to act like normal YouTube is for adults when it (the non Kids YouTube) is most definitely aimed at children as well. As normal YouTube is literally not hidden by an age consent wall.

No one argued that it needs to be readily available. Were saying that we dont care. Stop being disingenuous.

And a kid that is that resourceful wont be stopped by YouTube if theyre actively looking for porn.

pnut027 posted...

And a kid that is that resourceful wont be stopped by YouTube if theyre actively looking for porn.

So why does it need to be on YouTube?

If you want adult content, you have adult sites you can visit. YouTube is not an adult focused site nor should it try to be.

Tmaster148 posted...

So why does it need to be on YouTube?

If you want adult content, you have adult sites you can visit. YouTube is not an adult focused site nor should it try to be.

And you want a kid-friendly site, you have kid friendly sites you can visit.

pnut027 posted...

And you want a kid-friendly site, you have kid friendly sites you can visit.

You do know youtube wasn't an adult site first.

bigblu89 posted...

I can only control what I can control, and what my children watch/download on devices I purchased for them is in my control.

Are there ways around them? Maybe. Are my kids smart enough to know them? I don't know.

Do I feel like my kids are the type that live such a sheltered life that they would feel the need to circumvent certain restrictions that I've put on them? No, becasue I'm rather lenient with what I allow my children to watch. That, along with having a MUCH more open relationship with my children than my parents did with me and my sister, I feel like they would have no issues hiding their viewing habits from us.

They could probably circumvent everything you did in the time it took to type this out. I say that not as a dig but as an honest assessment.

One Fandom gets its grubby hands on it and flushes it down the toilet.

Could we technically hornypost on gamefaqs if we add a warning disclaimer on the op for educational purposes?

pnut027 posted...

No one argued that it needs to be readily available. Were saying that we dont care. Stop being disingenuous.

And a kid that is that resourceful wont be stopped by YouTube if theyre actively looking for porn.

Says the person being disingenuous. As if YouTube is a website specifically for this type of content. Acting as if the normal website isn't aimed at kids as well as adults. You're claiming you aren't saying it needs to be on this platform and that "you dont care" while at the same arguing such content should stay on YouTube. A platform that was not intended originally to be an adult porn website.

Been putting in work to these since the pandemic

Tmaster148 posted...

You do know youtube wasn't an adult site first.

And its not now, even if adult-oriented content is hosted on it.

LightningThief posted...

Says the person being disingenuous. As if YouTube is a website specifically for this type of content. Acting as if the normal website isn't aimed at kids as well as adults. You're claiming you aren't saying it needs to be on this platform and that "you dont care" while at the same arguing such content should stay on YouTube. A platform that was not intended originally to be an adult porn website.

YouTube isnt aimed at kids. YouTube Kids is aimed at kids. YouTube is aimed at all viewers. Its on the viewer to decide what content they want for themselves and their kids.