Current Events > TX Gov openly states he wants to end trans people existing

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This is honestly genocidal rhetoric coming from the Governor of Texas and an abuse of power

https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/gov-abbott-we-want-to-end-trans-and

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The discussion centers around teachers but the context speaks more broadly to not allowing this to be normalized or acceptable, stating, this is the type of behavior that we wanna make sure we end in the state of Texas.

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Disgusting

Absolutely fucking disgusting. Why is no one doing anything about this asshole?

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Both centrists and tankies are at fault for that sentiment.

This shit is why, despite how much I hate that we don't have a proper left-wing party, I will still turn out to vote for Democrats. Whenever Republicans win elections, innocent people will die because of their twisted, hateful policies.

Abbitch being a bitch. Nothing new here.

look, I already try to vote the goon out every time there's an opportunity, there's not exactly much more I can do

School policy is used as a wedge used to force open a door for further measures, and he is openly stating the goal is to eventually just end this behavior from existing in the state.

first its creating a greater perception in the public, normalizing that this isnt something socially acceptable around children or schools with (adult teachers, staff, etc) to be transgender or gender nonconforming (GNC.)

Thats a hop skip away from saying not at work or other public places period, essentially forcing trans and GNC people out of the public with these escalating attacks. It began with children, where Texas made it illegal for medical providers to give gender affirming care to minors the past few years.

This is genocidal talk.

There is no problem with trans people being teachers. There is a problem with bigots like Abbott being in power.

Wish the usual suspects would say how the democrats are the same as the GOP when the GOP say this shit on the regular.

Can shitty people like Abbott just fuck off?

Abbot needs to be thrown out of power.

Nirvanas_Nox posted...

Absolutely fucking disgusting. Why is no one doing anything about this asshole?

Republicans love Abbot. He's one of their champions

Fucking love the part about the judge pointing out the teacher had higher than average test scores. This sort of thing (judges pointing out facts like that) needs to become the norm in such cases, to really dispel the narrative about "distractions".

"Well ackshually he's just saying he wants to ban them from teaching! That's discrimination, but not genocide. I am very much arguing in good faith"

- a bad faith person, probably

ReiRei89 posted...

Wish the usual suspects would say how the democrats are the same as the GOP when the GOP say this shit on the regular.

They'll find some social media post from some random person that says "Fuck white people" and go "See? See? Both sides are crazy!"

They love to equate congressmen/governors/presidents to r so random nobodies.

pos belongs in a cell but is instead a governor

CSCA33 posted...

School policy is used as a wedge used to force open a door for further measures, and he is openly stating the goal is to eventually just end this behavior from existing in the state.

first its creating a greater perception in the public, normalizing that this isnt something socially acceptable around children or schools with (adult teachers, staff, etc) to be transgender or gender nonconforming (GNC.)

Thats a hop skip away from saying not at work or other public places period, essentially forcing trans and GNC people out of the public with these escalating attacks. It began with children, where Texas made it illegal for medical providers to give gender affirming care to minors the past few years.

Agreed.

This is very similar to cochlear implant debates in the deaf community or conversations around the discovery of Down Syndrome in prenatal screenings. For example, I have epilepsy and there's an argument that people who have epilepsy/down syndrome/deafness at birth should never be born and should not exist in the future. Not because they can't survive in society or modern medicine can't treat them, but because their existence makes things difficult for the powers that be.Of course that puts people living with those conditions currently in a tough spot. They're being told they don't have a future in society.

This is a Eugenics argument I believe. Since COVID, there's been a serious effort to force people who aren't having kids to the edges of society because of our falling birth rate. Trans, GNC and people with permanent disabilities are seen as future burdens to society because they're unlikely to reproduce. The abortion debate plays in to this.

Texas is fucking over a ton of people medically for financial reasons more than anything, make no mistake. It's not really a LGBT issue imo. As bad and dangerous as the rhetoric is around trans-folk, understand that people with disabilities, people who had Medicaid, kids of minorities, kids whose parents don't work, are all on the chopping block in Texas as well as other states with similar values. The aim is to push trans people out of the state so they won't vote in the upcoming election.

Please vote if you live in TX, even if you disagree with me.

How can we keep Christians from existing is my question

They think trump is survivable but another 4 years of biden isnt well they are gonna find out boring old biden was like a saint in comparison republicans are insanely evil

DamnSasquatch posted...

How can we keep Christians from existing is my question

There's no ethical answer to that question.

More to the point, please don't compare those who genuinely follow the Lord's teachings with politicians that use religion as a prop to hurt others.

Hey Texas, why don't you focus on your shitty infrastructure instead. Also you literally stink from your lack of emission standards.

The Republican Party is literally a terrorist organization.

Just when i thought he couldn't get any worse, he proves me wrong.

Umbreon posted...

There's no ethical answer to that question.

Education. Science in particular.

~thinks back to all the people who insisted that the early stages of anti-trans legislation wouldn't lead us to exactly where we all knew it was going~

Short-sighted & small-picture people keep getting shown up as fools and yet they never learn. The Republican Party will seek the worst and most harmful outcome in everything they want to do. It's outright immoral to support and vote for that party, full stop.

Trumble posted...

Education.

I won't lie, I laughed. Strong response.

hockeybabe89 posted...

They'll find some social media post from some random person that says "Fuck white people" and go "See? See? Both sides are crazy!"

They love to equate congressmen/governors/presidents to r so random nobodies.

"I just think our politics is so very divisive, from both sides of the extremes! You have a Governor openly discriminating against marginalized groups and then I saw a post on X from FartDog_73 that had 4 likes who said white people are weird. That's why I'm voting 3rd party because this unnamed candidate I am voting for will fix everything!"

Trumble posted...

Education. Science in particular.

I get what you're saying, but education doesn't mean one can't still be spiritual.

Kradek posted...

~thinks back to all the people who insisted that the early stages of anti-trans legislation wouldn't lead us to exactly where we all knew it was going~

Short-sighted & small-picture people keep getting shown up as fools and yet they never learn. The Republican Party will seek the worst and most harmful outcome in everything they want to do. It's outright immoral to support and vote for that party, full stop.

You're forgetting the people who were secretly rooting for this moment the entire time.

I'm sure in the beginning the Nazis insisted that they didn't want to kill anyone and that you're "just being paranoid".

While making plans to kill everyone.

Any anti-transgender agenda can screw off, and it makes me sick that people ever feel that way.

For clarification though, from what I see looking up the teacher, he is not actually transgender. It looks like he just enjoys cross dressing and drag. The only reason Im bringing that up is that I think there is a line there, albeit its a blurry one.

In this particular instance though, it also sounds like the teacher only chose to dress up on the appropriate school days designated for dressing up. On top of that, without a specific dress code for staff, it seems like calling out the choices this teacher made is erroneous, and they complied with all rules and regulations for their position.

Any law that could be used against transgender people is a law that should not exist. Being in Texas, I would absolutely not support it. But the quote from Abbott, while it could apply to a transgender individual, is specifically referencing a man dressed as a woman. So the topic title and article are incorrect in fact, but a warning of what could come in principle.

Thank you for sharing regardless, whether blatant or subversive, bigotry should be called out.

Neither the topic title or article are incorrect, however, you are incorrect here. Abbott does not support trans people and considers women who are trans to be a man in a dress. He does not distinguish between trans and GNC behavior, as a conservative politician, and this is an attack on trans rights.

cmon youre better than this BDSMKane

I was also aware the teacher in question is not a woman, and is a man who cross dressed in a specific context for a day other people were dressing up (and he was supported by his students.) It is Abbott who uses this incident to make it seem like something it was not to attack GNC people and trans people (and Libs of TikTok et al.)

Kradek posted...

~thinks back to all the people who insisted that the early stages of anti-trans legislation wouldn't lead us to exactly where we all knew it was going~

Short-sighted & small-picture people keep getting shown up as fools and yet they never learn. The Republican Party will seek the worst and most harmful outcome in everything they want to do. It's outright immoral to support and vote for that party, full stop.

We still have "serious" users like BM who think 4 more years of Trump and a GOP dominated government won't be too bad.

CSCA33 posted...

Neither the topic title or article are incorrect, however, you are incorrect here. Abbott does not support trans people and considers women who are trans to be a man in a dress. He does not distinguish between trans and GNC behavior, as a conservative politician, and this is an attack on trans rights.

I never said he supports them. I even said in multiple ways that he doesnt, and how this attack against a crossdressing teacher could be used against transgender people.

BDSMKane posted...

Any law that could be used against transgender people is a law that should not existBut the quote from Abbott, while it could apply to a transgender individual, is specifically referencing a man dressed as a woman. So the topic title and article are incorrect in fact, but a warning of what could come in principle.

Thank you for sharing regardless, whether blatant or subversive, bigotry should be called out.

But his quote was still specifically about a non-transgender individual. That makes the article and topic title incorrect. You cant pretend he made genocidal comments he didnt about a group not involved just because you (perhaps accurately) believe he feels that way.

His stance is wrong, his beliefs are wrong, and overall the Texas legislature has done a lot wrong lately. You have the moral high ground as long as you maintain your integrity.

Edit: I dont want to argue this any more either, because Abbott doesnt deserve to be defended. I would like to stick to the facts available, but your posturing is making it a debate against you, which is the last thing I want. Ive said my piece, and Im going to leave it at that.

Downplaying this genocidal rhetoric and dismissing the proper context as not accurate is where you fail to maintain integrity here and fail to be an effective ally to the LGBT+ community.

BDSMKane posted...

But his quote was still specifically about a non-transgender individual. That makes the article and topic title incorrect. You cant pretend he made genocidal comments he didnt about a group not involved just because you (perhaps accurately) believe he feels that way.

If we wanted some "well ackshually" shit we'd ask for it.

Gov Abbott appreciates people like you who help enable him with this sort of defense for his genocidal rhetoric, and this applies for other people defending similar rhetoric from other politicians.

Conservatives have clearly been outlining a national plan to enact genocide for years and have been making progress. This is part of that plan and their hateful ideology.

It wont end with trans people either, because they want to go after the whole LGBT+ community, and other minorities as well.

DrizztLink posted...

If we wanted some "well ackshually" shit we'd ask for it.

It boggles my mind how they can sit there and say they support the LGBT+ community while downplaying genocidal rhetoric.

The Texas GOP have already managed to end gender affirming care for minors. Its hurting real people. They will not stop there and are coming for adults.

"Actually he's saying crossdressing is the behavior that we need to keep out of society" is a hell of a charitable interpretation.

Especially when Republican politicians already publicly state that they believe trans people are no more than creepy crossdressers.

Why isn't the DOJ stepping in?

Garland needs to grow some balls and indict this fascist.

hockeybabe89 posted...

Especially when Republican politicians already publicly state that they believe trans people are no more than creepy crossdressers.

Except when they do it. Then it's "just a joke" or "just for fun".

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/03/02/texas-rep-nate-schatzline-dress-mh-orig.cnn

Republican Texas State Rep. Nate Schatzline wore a dress for a school project as a teenager. Now, he wrote a bill that would restrict performers "who exhibit a gender identity that is different" from the one they were assigned at birth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Guve7Y856kY

InB4 "Nobody is trying to eradicate trans individuals, you're just being alarmist, and overly dramatic".

ItsNotA2Mer posted...

InB4 "Nobody is trying to eradicate trans individuals, you're just being alarmist, and overly dramatic".

Already had that with BDSMKane in this topic, pontificating about holding the moral high ground and integrity because he doesnt think my topic title or the article written by Erin Reed are accurate

I guess I lost the moral high ground against the people who literally want to enact genocide against me and my family, fucking sucks dude.