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2Pacavelli 04/21/24 9:26:47 AM #1:	Will Microsoft's next console be their best console yet? - Results (53 votes) Yes. It will go above and beyond what they've ever done before including the OG, Xbox 360, Series X and One X 7.55% (4 votes) 4 No. It's just going to be pretty decent like they always make but this one is not going to especially great 79.25% (42 votes) 42 Maybe. They'll try their hardest to definitively beat the competition, but Sony is such a competitor their next offering is going to make it tough to just lap the competition like that 13.21% (7 votes) 7 I saw there were reports that they may be listening to Intel pitch their technologies for their next CPU. This made me think that they may pivot away from AMD with their next Console. I think next console gen they're going to really do their best to market themselves as the premier premium gaming platform in terms of graphics and quality and features. I think they might switch to using Intel for their CPUs and even maybe back to Nvidia for their GPUs and go with a combo developed from the ground up there focused on defeating the AMD/AMD combo that the PS6 is probably going to go for. Sony probably won't switch up the strategy that's been working for them really well since PS4. And they probably want to keep things as similar as possible so they can eventually widen their backwards compatibility support over the years. Microsoft may be more willing to experiment from the typical hardware conditions they've been using from Xbox One, One X, Series S and X They might want to use Nvidia instead because of their big advantage in AI, DLSS and Ray Tracing/Path Tracing. They might even boost their backwards compatibility/game preservation features to the point where they're enhancing old games with not only their internal resolution and framerate, but they're adding very high quality Ray Tracing/Path Tracing and other enhanced features using AI to processing as well as the way back to the original Xbox. They also have been diving headfirst into AI as a company in general recently and it's been within great for them. So they might want to collaborate with Nvidia and Intel to continue on that. Might have them all work together to build a great console from the ground up Also they have the reports that they may allow users to pay PC Platform games like Steam Games, EA Store, Epic, Ubisoft etc store front games. They might be tired of getting heavily beaten sales wise by Sony so they might try to pull out all the stops next generation. Recently Microsoft said their next generation console is going to be the biggest leap technological leap in a generation yet so who knows. That plus other things I've been thinking about and seeing had gotten me thinking. I feel like they really want to make a system that is so much stronger than the next PlayStation that it's like a half generational leap over it. Kind of like how the OG Xbox was so advanced you can have games line Far Cry, Elder Scrolls and other games on it that were just not possible on the PS2 I say ask this as a historical PlayStation/Nintendo handheld/PC gamer. I can see a Dark horse scenario though where they come back from behind and surprise everyone. Not really mentioning Nintendo right now because they have their own niche and are consistently successful sticking to their own lane. Mainly talking about the high end console machines at the moment Just some random thoughts/rambling. What do you guys think? <cite>2Pacavelli posted [p:980020582] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote> Will Microsoft's next console be their best console yet? - Results (53 votes) Yes. It will go above and beyond what they've ever done before including the OG, Xbox 360, Series X and One X 7.55% (4 votes) 4 No. It's just going to be pretty decent like they always make but this one is not going to especially great 79.25% (42 votes) 42 Maybe. They'll try their hardest to definitively beat the competition, but Sony is such a competitor their next offering is going to make it tough to just lap the competition like that 13.21% (7 votes) 7 Show Voting Form I saw there were reports that they may be listening to Intel pitch their technologies for their next CPU. This made me think that they may pivot away from AMD with their next Console. I think next console gen they're going to really do their best to market themselves as the premier premium gaming platform in terms of graphics and quality and features. I think they might switch to using Intel for their CPUs and even maybe back to Nvidia for their GPUs and go with a combo developed from the ground up there focused on defeating the AMD/AMD combo that the PS6 is probably going to go for. Sony probably won't switch up the strategy that's been working for them really well since PS4. And they probably want to keep things as similar as possible so they can eventually widen their backwards compatibility support over the years. Microsoft may be more willing to experiment from the typical hardware conditions they've been using from Xbox One, One X, Series S and XThey might want to use Nvidia instead because of their big advantage in AI, DLSS and Ray Tracing/Path Tracing. They might even boost their backwards compatibility/game preservation features to the point where they're enhancing old games with not only their internal resolution and framerate, but they're adding very high quality Ray Tracing/Path Tracing and other enhanced features using AI to processing as well as the way back to the original Xbox. They also have been diving headfirst into AI as a company in general recently and it's been within great for them. So they might want to collaborate with Nvidia and Intel to continue on that. Might have them all work together to build a great console from the ground upAlso they have the reports that they may allow users to pay PC Platform games like Steam Games, EA Store, Epic, Ubisoft etc store front games. They might be tired of getting heavily beaten sales wise by Sony so they might try to pull out all the stops next generation.Recently Microsoft said their next generation console is going to be the biggest leap technological leap in a generation yet so who knows. That plus other things I've been thinking about and seeing had gotten me thinking. I feel like they really want to make a system that is so much stronger than the next PlayStation that it's like a half generational leap over it. Kind of like how the OG Xbox was so advanced you can have games line Far Cry, Elder Scrolls and other games on it that were just not possible on the PS2I say ask this as a historical PlayStation/Nintendo handheld/PC gamer. I can see a Dark horse scenario though where they come back from behind and surprise everyone. Not really mentioning Nintendo right now because they have their own niche and are consistently successful sticking to their own lane. Mainly talking about the high end console machines at the momentJust some random thoughts/rambling. What do you guys think? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 04/21/24 9:29:15 AM #2:	Finally gonna lean into "THE FIRST CONSOLE-PC HYBRID" as a marketing aspect but it's really just going to be a pc kek --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:980020601] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>Finally gonna lean into "THE FIRST CONSOLE-PC HYBRID" as a marketing aspect but it's really just going to be a pc kek </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
reincarnator07 04/21/24 9:33:56 AM #3:	Without some decent exclusives, it's dead in the water. That'll be especially true if it ends up being more expensive than Sony's next offering. --- Fan of metal? Don't mind covers? Check out my youtube and give me some feedback http://www.youtube.com/sircaballero <cite>reincarnator07 posted [p:980020650] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>Without some decent exclusives, it's dead in the water. That'll be especially true if it ends up being more expensive than Sony's next offering. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
2Pacavelli 04/21/24 9:45:41 AM #4:	reincarnator07 posted... Without some decent exclusives, it's dead in the water. That'll be especially true if it ends up being more expensive than Sony's next offering. What if they make a console that's so advanced that exclusives are made for it just because it's not possible on the other consoles? Like Far Cry Instincts <cite>2Pacavelli posted [p:980020763] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>reincarnator07 posted... </cite><quote>Without some decent exclusives, it's dead in the water. That'll be especially true if it ends up being more expensive than Sony's next offering.</quote>What if they make a console that's so advanced that exclusives are made for it just because it's not possible on the other consoles? Like Far Cry Instincts </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 04/21/24 9:49:17 AM #5:	They need to release Xbox OS as something you can install on any PC --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:980020807] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>They need to release Xbox OS as something you can install on any PC </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thisworld 04/21/24 10:24:29 AM #6:	2Pacavelli posted... What if they make a console that's so advanced that exclusives are made for it just because it's not possible on the other consoles? Like Far Cry Instincts I don't get it. They had to slim down the original Far Cry to make Instinct because Xbox was not strong enough to run the original game. This feels like an argument against,rather than for, Xbox. <cite>thisworld posted [p:980021235] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>2Pacavelli posted... </cite><quote>What if they make a console that's so advanced that exclusives are made for it just because it's not possible on the other consoles? Like Far Cry Instincts</quote>I don't get it. They had to slim down the original Far Cry to make Instinct because Xbox was not strong enough to run the original game. This feels like an argument against,rather than for, Xbox.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 04/21/24 10:33:46 AM #7:	2Pacavelli posted... What if they make a console that's so advanced that exclusives are made for it just because it's not possible on the other consoles? Like Far Cry Instincts Unless they're going to stick, like, a 4090 in a console, I don't see a console making such a leap nowadays that it'd demand exclusives. --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. <cite>wackyteen posted [p:980021336] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>2Pacavelli posted... </cite><quote>What if they make a console that's so advanced that exclusives are made for it just because it's not possible on the other consoles? Like Far Cry Instincts</quote>Unless they're going to stick, like, a 4090 in a console, I don't see a console making such a leap nowadays that it'd demand exclusives. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraetorXyn 04/21/24 10:39:53 AM #8:	Its dead in the water outside the US just like every other Xbox. At this point, theres nothing Microsoft can do. The things against them are: If you have a gaming PC, an Xboxs only purpose is backwards compatibility with a handful of older exclusives that havent been ported, remastered, or added to collections that were remastered / ported. If someone primarily plays Japanese gameswhich Xboxes historically havent gottenand their whole library is already on PC or PlayStation, why would they switch now? Since Xbox has gotten shellacked for two generations in a row, sales demonstrate most people have PlayStations and most of their libraries are on PlayStation rather than Xbox, so again, why would they switch now? One of the reasons a lot of people (myself included) bought a 360 was to play online with their friends, but with the advent of crossplay that lets PC / PlayStation owners play with their friends on Xbox, theres no reason for them to buy an Xbox to play with their friends. There are probably even things I cant think of here, but thats a start. --- https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/profiles/76561198052113750 <cite>PraetorXyn posted [p:980021412] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>Its dead in the water outside the US just like every other Xbox.At this point, theres nothing Microsoft can do.The things against them are:If you have a gaming PC, an Xboxs only purpose is backwards compatibility with a handful of older exclusives that havent been ported, remastered, or added to collections that were remastered / ported.If someone primarily plays Japanese gameswhich Xboxes historically havent gottenand their whole library is already on PC or PlayStation, why would they switch now?Since Xbox has gotten shellacked for two generations in a row, sales demonstrate most people have PlayStations and most of their libraries are on PlayStation rather than Xbox, so again, why would they switch now?One of the reasons a lot of people (myself included) bought a 360 was to play online with their friends, but with the advent of crossplay that lets PC / PlayStation owners play with their friends on Xbox, theres no reason for them to buy an Xbox to play with their friends.There are probably even things I cant think of here, but thats a start. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraetorXyn 04/21/24 10:55:03 AM #9:	2Pacavelli posted... What if they make a console that's so advanced that exclusives are made for it just because it's not possible on the other consoles? Like Far Cry Instincts PC already exists and it doesnt cause what you said because thats not the way trying to sell things works. Xbox would only attract exclusives if it was already in the dominant position, in which case, it wouldnt need them. --- https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/profiles/76561198052113750 <cite>PraetorXyn posted [p:980021564] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>2Pacavelli posted... </cite><quote>What if they make a console that's so advanced that exclusives are made for it just because it's not possible on the other consoles? Like Far Cry Instincts</quote>PC already exists and it doesnt cause what you said because thats not the way trying to sell things works. Xbox would only attract exclusives if it was already in the dominant position, in which case, it wouldnt need them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
reincarnator07 04/21/24 10:59:37 AM #10:	2Pacavelli posted... What if they make a console that's so advanced that exclusives are made for it just because it's not possible on the other consoles? Like Far Cry Instincts Then it would cost a fortune and lose out of the box. You can already buy advanced PCs that are piss easy to use and actually do have exclusives made just for it. You'll notice that consoles are still here. Also, the only people who will make console exclusives these days are console manufacturers and people paid by console manufacturers. Third parties don't want to artificially limit their potential market. --- Fan of metal? Don't mind covers? Check out my youtube and give me some feedback http://www.youtube.com/sircaballero <cite>reincarnator07 posted [p:980021630] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>2Pacavelli posted... </cite><quote>What if they make a console that's so advanced that exclusives are made for it just because it's not possible on the other consoles? Like Far Cry Instincts</quote>Then it would cost a fortune and lose out of the box. You can already buy advanced PCs that are piss easy to use and actually do have exclusives made just for it. You'll notice that consoles are still here.Also, the only people who will make console exclusives these days are console manufacturers and people paid by console manufacturers. Third parties don't want to artificially limit their potential market. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MagiMarthKoopa 04/21/24 11:14:58 AM #11:	xbox should just go away <cite>MagiMarthKoopa posted [p:980021851] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>xbox should just go away</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fenriswolf 04/21/24 11:20:23 AM #12:	MagiMarthKoopa posted... Playstation should just go away Fixed --- Hello <cite>Fenriswolf posted [p:980021913] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>MagiMarthKoopa posted... </cite><quote>Playstation should just go away</quote>Fixed </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
2Pacavelli 04/21/24 11:30:02 AM #13:	Tyranthraxus posted... They need to release Xbox OS as something you can install on any PC Yeah that would be really cool <cite>2Pacavelli posted [p:980022032] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>They need to release Xbox OS as something you can install on any PC</quote>Yeah that would be really cool</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mechu 04/21/24 11:31:26 AM #14:	The console itself was never the problem. --- Constant isolation and distress. <cite>Mechu posted [p:980022045] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>The console itself was never the problem. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraetorXyn 04/21/24 11:33:14 AM #15:	Mechu posted... The console itself was never the problem. Are you forgetting the RROD? Youre right for most of the generations, but never is just wrong. --- https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/profiles/76561198052113750 <cite>PraetorXyn posted [p:980022080] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>Mechu posted... </cite><quote>The console itself was never the problem.</quote>Are you forgetting the RROD? Youre right for most of the generations, but never is just wrong. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mechu 04/21/24 11:33:38 AM #16:	Fair enough. --- Constant isolation and distress. <cite>Mechu posted [p:980022085] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>Fair enough. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 04/21/24 11:38:37 AM #17:	Honestly, their best bet is to sell their next consoles at a loss. Powerful, but affordable. All of their games release at the same time on PC, so they need a reason for people to buy an Xbox over a PC. --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:980022153] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>Honestly, their best bet is to sell their next consoles at a loss. Powerful, but affordable. All of their games release at the same time on PC, so they need a reason for people to buy an Xbox over a PC. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foxhound101 04/21/24 11:40:50 AM #18:	Step 1 - Can they give the console a thoughtful and non-confusing name? None of this garbage that I don't understand (as a non-Xbox user): Xbox One, One X, Series S and X --- There are a ton of misconceptions about recycling. Learn how to better at recycling: https://onbetterliving.com/simplify-recycling/ <cite>foxhound101 posted [p:980022178] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>Step 1 - Can they give the console a thoughtful and non-confusing name? None of this garbage that I don't understand (as a non-Xbox user): Xbox One, One X, Series S and X </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andri_g 04/21/24 12:23:28 PM #19:	PraetorXyn posted... Are you forgetting the RROD? Youre right for most of the generations, but never is just wrong. For launch 360s, the console wasn't the problem; it was the solder that certain factories used for some of the components when they assembled the consoles for Microsoft. Also, don't forget YLOD. Heat dissipation is an issue for any device. --- '~' <cite>andri_g posted [p:980022805] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>PraetorXyn posted... </cite><quote>Are you forgetting the RROD? Youre right for most of the generations, but never is just wrong.</quote>For launch 360s, the console wasn't the problem; it was the solder that certain factories used for some of the components when they assembled the consoles for Microsoft.Also, don't forget YLOD. Heat dissipation is an issue for any device. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zwijn 04/21/24 12:27:45 PM #20:	I just dont really care about them since they basically believe graphics and loading are all thats needed to be next-gen. Their controllers dont even have simple gyro. Unpopular opinion I guess but to me thats laughable, controller features/VR/3D audio are what I want nowadays. <cite>Zwijn posted [p:980022849] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>I just dont really care about them since they basically believe graphics and loading are all thats needed to be next-gen. Their controllers dont even have simple gyro. Unpopular opinion I guess but to me thats laughable, controller features/VR/3D audio are what I want nowadays.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hinakuluiau 04/21/24 12:29:07 PM #21:	PraetorXyn posted... Its dead in the water outside the US just like every other Xbox. At this point, theres nothing Microsoft can do. The things against them are: 1. If you have a gaming PC, an Xboxs only purpose is backwards compatibility with a handful of older exclusives that havent been ported, remastered, or added to collections that were remastered / ported. 2. If someone primarily plays Japanese gameswhich Xboxes historically havent gottenand their whole library is already on PC or PlayStation, why would they switch now? 3. Since Xbox has gotten shellacked for two generations in a row, sales demonstrate most people have PlayStations and most of their libraries are on PlayStation rather than Xbox, so again, why would they switch now? 4. People have Steam achievements / PlayStation trophies and a lot of play progress outside the Xbox ecosystem, so why would they start over on Xbox? 5. One of the reasons a lot of people (myself included) bought a 360 was to play online with their friends, but with the advent of crossplay that lets PC / PlayStation owners play with their friends on Xbox, theres no reason for them to buy an Xbox to play with their friends. There are probably even things I cant think of here, but thats a start. All of this is true. I'd also add that Microsoft needs to figure out a way to get better involved with their studios. Sony is still far more involved with executives flying out to check on progress and status as well as lending a hand with their very robust development pipelines and support network, which also helps. Cory Barlogs interview about how Shu called GOW 2018 a bad game during his visit springs to mind. The candid and potentially demotivating response really pushed the team to do better, and see where it got them. Xbox and Microsoft gives their studios freedom it often feels like a lack of direction and a disconnect from what people want. 343 has failed Halo three times in a row. Rare spent five years floundering with their game 'Everwild' which now seems to be canned. Avowed got internally restarted and the devs are already trying to lower expectations and the news seems to spend more time saying what the game won't feature. Hellblade 2 spent five years in development but seems to be 5-6 hours long. Whatever that Minecraft game last year was flopped and has already had its supported ended. Plus Minecraft has become a mess of multiple editions with the infamous super graphics update getting cancelled after years in development. It also helps that PlayStation Studios games have been regarded as quality releases since the late PS3 era, so this prestige culture is likely ingratiated into the development studios all the way to higher up SIE corporate. Long story short Phil Spencer is a PR master but a simply fucking terrible leader. --- There are some things where I just bypass critical thinking. - ROD <cite>Hinakuluiau posted [p:980022865] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>PraetorXyn posted... </cite><quote>Its dead in the water outside the US just like every other Xbox.At this point, theres nothing Microsoft can do.The things against them are:1. If you have a gaming PC, an Xboxs only purpose is backwards compatibility with a handful of older exclusives that havent been ported, remastered, or added to collections that were remastered / ported.2. If someone primarily plays Japanese gameswhich Xboxes historically havent gottenand their whole library is already on PC or PlayStation, why would they switch now?3. Since Xbox has gotten shellacked for two generations in a row, sales demonstrate most people have PlayStations and most of their libraries are on PlayStation rather than Xbox, so again, why would they switch now?4. People have Steam achievements / PlayStation trophies and a lot of play progress outside the Xbox ecosystem, so why would they start over on Xbox?5. One of the reasons a lot of people (myself included) bought a 360 was to play online with their friends, but with the advent of crossplay that lets PC / PlayStation owners play with their friends on Xbox, theres no reason for them to buy an Xbox to play with their friends.There are probably even things I cant think of here, but thats a start.</quote>All of this is true. I'd also add that Microsoft needs to figure out a way to get better involved with their studios. Sony is still far more involved with executives flying out to check on progress and status as well as lending a hand with their very robust development pipelines and support network, which also helps. Cory Barlogs interview about how Shu called GOW 2018 a bad game during his visit springs to mind. The candid and potentially demotivating response really pushed the team to do better, and see where it got them.Xbox and Microsoft gives their studios freedom it often feels like a lack of direction and a disconnect from what people want. 343 has failed Halo three times in a row. Rare spent five years floundering with their game 'Everwild' which now seems to be canned. Avowed got internally restarted and the devs are already trying to lower expectations and the news seems to spend more time saying what the game won't feature. Hellblade 2 spent five years in development but seems to be 5-6 hours long. Whatever that Minecraft game last year was flopped and has already had its supported ended. Plus Minecraft has become a mess of multiple editions with the infamous super graphics update getting cancelled after years in development.It also helps that PlayStation Studios games have been regarded as quality releases since the late PS3 era, so this prestige culture is likely ingratiated into the development studios all the way to higher up SIE corporate. Long story short Phil Spencer is a PR master but a simply fucking terrible leader. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 04/21/24 12:34:00 PM #22:	Intel doesn't have anything worth putting in a console. And they would want their GPU in there as well. An off the shelf solution that isn't heavily customized would have to wait until Panther Lake late next year. --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:980022945] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>Intel doesn't have anything worth putting in a console.And they would want their GPU in there as well. An off the shelf solution that isn't heavily customized would have to wait until Panther Lake late next year. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SicSlayer 04/21/24 12:35:31 PM #23:	Doubtful. They seemingly gave up about halfway through the 360's life cycle and have never recovered. --- lick 'em <cite>SicSlayer posted [p:980022969] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>Doubtful.They seemingly gave up about halfway through the 360's life cycle and have never recovered. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
2Pacavelli 04/21/24 1:25:51 PM #24:	NoxObscuras posted... Honestly, their best bet is to sell their next consoles at a loss. Powerful, but affordable. All of their games release at the same time on PC, so they need a reason for people to buy an Xbox over a PC. Yeah I'm thinking a console for console gamers who want the best experience, but don't want to cross over to PC / aren't comfortable with it If it comes out and has compatibility with all prior Xbox games and even many PC games as well at launch it can be a hit. The key would be the ease of use of it. It would have to be a very easy to use streamlined experience. Kind of like how Steam Deck streamlined the portable PC gaming market. But it would have to be even better than that, if it is though it could be a big hit <cite>2Pacavelli posted [p:980023664] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>NoxObscuras posted... </cite><quote>Honestly, their best bet is to sell their next consoles at a loss. Powerful, but affordable. All of their games release at the same time on PC, so they need a reason for people to buy an Xbox over a PC.</quote>Yeah I'm thinking a console for console gamers who want the best experience, but don't want to cross over to PC / aren't comfortable with itIf it comes out and has compatibility with all prior Xbox games and even many PC games as well at launch it can be a hit. The key would be the ease of use of it. It would have to be a very easy to use streamlined experience. Kind of like how Steam Deck streamlined the portable PC gaming market. But it would have to be even better than that, if it is though it could be a big hit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
itachi15243 04/21/24 1:26:36 PM #25:	I really don't expect anything special from xbox anymore. At this point it seems like they've given up exclusives for more stuff to be available on pc, and haven't ever really recovered from the Xbox one fiasco. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they just kept selling gamepass machines for another generation to build up goodwill. Even if they did make some massive leaps in tech, there's a lot of rebranding, exclusivity deals, and so much more trouble than it's worth to just suddenly switch up their entire strategy and suddenly go all out. --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz <cite>itachi15243 posted [p:980023680] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>I really don't expect anything special from xbox anymore. At this point it seems like they've given up exclusives for more stuff to be available on pc, and haven't ever really recovered from the Xbox one fiasco. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they just kept selling gamepass machines for another generation to build up goodwill. Even if they did make some massive leaps in tech, there's a lot of rebranding, exclusivity deals, and so much more trouble than it's worth to just suddenly switch up their entire strategy and suddenly go all out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
2Pacavelli 04/21/24 1:30:37 PM #26:	itachi15243 posted... At this point it seems like they've given up exclusives for more stuff to be available on pc, and haven't ever really recovered from the Xbox one fiasco Yeah the Xbox One PR failure, the always online feature and the mandatory Kinect really did them in. They never recovered PR and momentum wise from that. Also the name of the console was pretty silly. They haven't had good naming schemes since the 360. <cite>2Pacavelli posted [p:980023734] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>itachi15243 posted... </cite><quote>At this point it seems like they've given up exclusives for more stuff to be available on pc, and haven't ever really recovered from the Xbox one fiasco</quote>Yeah the Xbox One PR failure, the always online feature and the mandatory Kinect really did them in. They never recovered PR and momentum wise from that. Also the name of the console was pretty silly. They haven't had good naming schemes since the 360. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 04/21/24 1:36:36 PM #27:	I honestly don't really see it happening. Microsoft is seemingly moving more and more towards 3rd party it feels like. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 35, 500th posts: 34; PiO ATTN: 6 RotM wins 1, LETTEN MY ARROW FLYEN TRUE <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:980023802] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>I honestly don't really see it happening. Microsoft is seemingly moving more and more towards 3rd party it feels like. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 04/21/24 2:35:20 PM #28:	2Pacavelli posted... Also the name of the console was pretty silly. They haven't had good naming schemes since the 360. Yeah their naming schemes are terrible. They should have just continued the trend everyone thought they were gonna do Xbox Xbox 360 Xbox 720 Xbox 1080 Sure, it would start sounding like resolution numbers (1080p), but at least the succession order would be clear to non-gamers. --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:980024626] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>2Pacavelli posted... </cite><quote>Also the name of the console was pretty silly. They haven't had good naming schemes since the 360.</quote>Yeah their naming schemes are terrible. They should have just continued the trend everyone thought they were gonna do XboxXbox 360Xbox 720Xbox 1080Sure, it would start sounding like resolution numbers (1080p), but at least the succession order would be clear to non-gamers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMolinaro 04/21/24 2:45:54 PM #29:	Id honestly be surprised if Microsoft made another console. It doesnt seem possible for them to regain enough market share to make it worthwhile. <cite>MrMolinaro posted [p:980024789] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>Id honestly be surprised if Microsoft made another console. It doesnt seem possible for them to regain enough market share to make it worthwhile.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JuanCarlos1 04/21/24 2:47:56 PM #30:	Theyve fumbled the ball TWICE in a row due to poor marketing and not being on top of their studios. --- Mas dicen, que en las dimensiones de nuestro ser... hay muchos detalles por conocer... <cite>JuanCarlos1 posted [p:980024817] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>Theyve fumbled the ball TWICE in a row due to poor marketing and not being on top of their studios. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fenriswolf 04/21/24 6:56:57 PM #31:	PraetorXyn posted... If you have a gaming PC, an Xboxs only purpose is backwards compatibility with a handful of older exclusives that havent been ported, remastered, or added to collections that were remastered / ported. You do know that a gaming PC has been making consoles obsolete since the 90s? And that you can also play Sony's AAA exclusives there, including every Horizon game without needing DLC? If someone primarily plays Japanese gameswhich Xboxes historically havent gottenand their whole library is already on PC or PlayStation, why would they switch now? Irrelevant. Japanese games aren't exclusive to PS anymore and Switch and PC has it beat. It says a lot when even Final Fantasy 16 and 7 Rebirth didn't meet SE's sales expectations LMAO. Since Xbox has gotten shellacked for two generations in a row, sales demonstrate most people have PlayStations and most of their libraries are on PlayStation rather than Xbox, so again, why would they switch now? Implying that NOBODY bought any online stuff on the 360, which at least lets you transfer some purchases to current consoles unlike PS3. And it's pretty much irrelevant anyway since Gamepass makes ownership obsolete. People have Steam achievements / PlayStation trophies and a lot of play progress outside the Xbox ecosystem, so why would they start over on Xbox? LMAO and who came up with achievements first? The Xbox 360. Steam achievements are worthless since there's a program that lets you unlock them at will. One of the reasons a lot of people (myself included) bought a 360 was to play online with their friends, but with the advent of crossplay that lets PC / PlayStation owners play with their friends on Xbox, theres no reason for them to buy an Xbox to play with their friends. LOL @ thinking that crossplay somehow benefit PS when they're the least consumer friendly. They won't even let Among Us progress transfer to other systems, but PC, mobile, Xbox, and Switch does let you access your account and items across the board. And that's just tip of the iceberg. --- Hello <cite>Fenriswolf posted [p:980027916] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>PraetorXyn posted... </cite><quote>If you have a gaming PC, an Xboxs only purpose is backwards compatibility with a handful of older exclusives that havent been ported, remastered, or added to collections that were remastered / ported.</quote>You do know that a gaming PC has been making consoles obsolete since the 90s? And that you can also play Sony's AAA exclusives there, including every Horizon game without needing DLC?<quote>If someone primarily plays Japanese gameswhich Xboxes historically havent gottenand their whole library is already on PC or PlayStation, why would they switch now?</quote>Irrelevant. Japanese games aren't exclusive to PS anymore and Switch and PC has it beat. It says a lot when even Final Fantasy 16 and 7 Rebirth didn't meet SE's sales expectations LMAO.<quote>Since Xbox has gotten shellacked for two generations in a row, sales demonstrate most people have PlayStations and most of their libraries are on PlayStation rather than Xbox, so again, why would they switch now?</quote>Implying that NOBODY bought any online stuff on the 360, which at least lets you transfer some purchases to current consoles unlike PS3. And it's pretty much irrelevant anyway since Gamepass makes ownership obsolete.<quote>People have Steam achievements / PlayStation trophies and a lot of play progress outside the Xbox ecosystem, so why would they start over on Xbox?</quote>LMAO and who came up with achievements first? The Xbox 360. Steam achievements are worthless since there's a program that lets you unlock them at will.<quote>One of the reasons a lot of people (myself included) bought a 360 was to play online with their friends, but with the advent of crossplay that lets PC / PlayStation owners play with their friends on Xbox, theres no reason for them to buy an Xbox to play with their friends.</quote>LOL @ thinking that crossplay somehow benefit PS when they're the least consumer friendly. They won't even let Among Us progress transfer to other systems, but PC, mobile, Xbox, and Switch does let you access your account and items across the board. And that's just tip of the iceberg. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fenriswolf 04/21/24 7:05:57 PM #32:	Hinakuluiau posted... All of this is true. I'd also add that Microsoft needs to figure out a way to get better involved with their studios. Sony is still far more involved with executives flying out to check on progress and status as well as lending a hand with their very robust development pipelines and support network, which also helps. Cory Barlogs interview about how Shu called GOW 2018 a bad game during his visit springs to mind. The candid and potentially demotivating response really pushed the team to do better, and see where it got them. Of course Sony's the only developer that listens to feedback /S. Were you there at the meeting to overhear that actual conversation, or do you think one person has the ability to overhaul an entire game during development? Meanwhile MS also listened to feedback after the initial Halo Infinite reveal. But it's okay when Sony does it but bad when MS does it, right? Xbox and Microsoft gives their studios freedom it often feels like a lack of direction and a disconnect from what people want. 343 has failed Halo three times in a row. LMAO that Sony fanboy logic: Apparently this is a failure: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/12a640e0.png But this is somehow a great success: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b98df90e.png How's Sony's supposed Halo killer Killzone doing? Oh wait it's dead LMAO. Rare spent five years floundering with their game 'Everwild' which now seems to be canned. Avowed got internally restarted and the devs are already trying to lower expectations and the news seems to spend more time saying what the game won't feature. Hellblade 2 spent five years in development but seems to be 5-6 hours long. Whatever that Minecraft game last year was flopped and has already had its supported ended. Plus Minecraft has become a mess of multiple editions with the infamous super graphics update getting cancelled after years in development. Oh wow MS has a bunch of in development games that got delayed. How evil of them. https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2024/02/unannounced-games-from-playstation-studios-have-been-cancelled Meanwhile Forza Horizon has been running circles around GT and Hifi Rush got more awards than Spiderman 2 at last year's GOTY Awards LMAO. It also helps that PlayStation Studios games have been regarded as quality releases since the late PS3 era, so this prestige culture is likely ingratiated into the development studios all the way to higher up SIE corporate. Long story short Phil Spencer is a PR master but a simply fucking terrible leader. Suuuureee. Just like The Order 1866, Babylon's Fall, Forspoken, or Days Gone, which BTW had its sequel canned despite selling decently well since it didn't reach a certain Metacritic score. And this is how they treat one of their biggest hits on PS3, by leaving the servers to rot and not even informing users. https://www.ign.com/articles/littlebigplanet-3-servers-are-officially-shut-down-indefinitely-sony-confirms --- Hello <cite>Fenriswolf posted [p:980028024] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>Hinakuluiau posted... </cite><quote>All of this is true. I'd also add that Microsoft needs to figure out a way to get better involved with their studios. Sony is still far more involved with executives flying out to check on progress and status as well as lending a hand with their very robust development pipelines and support network, which also helps. Cory Barlogs interview about how Shu called GOW 2018 a bad game during his visit springs to mind. The candid and potentially demotivating response really pushed the team to do better, and see where it got them.</quote>Of course Sony's the only developer that listens to feedback /S. Were you there at the meeting to overhear that actual conversation, or do you think one person has the ability to overhaul an entire game during development?Meanwhile MS also listened to feedback after the initial Halo Infinite reveal. But it's okay when Sony does it but bad when MS does it, right?<quote>Xbox and Microsoft gives their studios freedom it often feels like a lack of direction and a disconnect from what people want. 343 has failed Halo three times in a row.</quote>LMAO that Sony fanboy logic:Apparently this is a failure:https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/12a640e0.pngBut this is somehow a great success:https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b98df90e.pngHow's Sony's supposed Halo killer Killzone doing? Oh wait it's dead LMAO.<quote>Rare spent five years floundering with their game 'Everwild' which now seems to be canned. Avowed got internally restarted and the devs are already trying to lower expectations and the news seems to spend more time saying what the game won't feature. Hellblade 2 spent five years in development but seems to be 5-6 hours long. Whatever that Minecraft game last year was flopped and has already had its supported ended. Plus Minecraft has become a mess of multiple editions with the infamous super graphics update getting cancelled after years in development.</quote>Oh wow MS has a bunch of in development games that got delayed. How evil of them.https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2024/02/unannounced-games-from-playstation-studios-have-been-cancelledMeanwhile Forza Horizon has been running circles around GT and Hifi Rush got more awards than Spiderman 2 at last year's GOTY Awards LMAO.<quote>It also helps that PlayStation Studios games have been regarded as quality releases since the late PS3 era, so this prestige culture is likely ingratiated into the development studios all the way to higher up SIE corporate. Long story short Phil Spencer is a PR master but a simply fucking terrible leader.</quote>Suuuureee. Just like The Order 1866, Babylon's Fall, Forspoken, or Days Gone, which BTW had its sequel canned despite selling decently well since it didn't reach a certain Metacritic score.And this is how they treat one of their biggest hits on PS3, by leaving the servers to rot and not even informing users.https://www.ign.com/articles/littlebigplanet-3-servers-are-officially-shut-down-indefinitely-sony-confirms </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraetorXyn 04/21/24 7:20:41 PM #33:	And the expected melt has finally come. Too most of the day. --- https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/profiles/76561198052113750 <cite>PraetorXyn posted [p:980028245] in I think Mi... [t:80752262]...</cite> <quote>And the expected melt has finally come. Too most of the day. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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