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STEROLIZER
04/20/24 11:31:39 PM
#51:


MICHALECOLE posted...
Rey mysterio

but I just noticed Chris Benoit above him

I am sure Id know plenty if I heard their name

Eddie Guerrero
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STEROLIZER
04/20/24 11:37:10 PM
#52:


StealThisSheen posted...
For the longest time, even as a kid, La Parka and Psicosis were my favorites, period. Even when I knew I was supposed to root for Mysterio or whoever, I liked them most.

I think I liked La Parka because of his "Chairman" gimmick, and how much he could move, even as a bigger guy.

https://youtu.be/2ZYwIl7XGJM?si=h6FqFyg2dt15ft-B

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StealThisSheen
04/20/24 11:45:08 PM
#53:


STEROLIZER posted...
https://youtu.be/2ZYwIl7XGJM?si=h6FqFyg2dt15ft-B

Oh geez I remember this.

It seems so dumb now, but listen, I was on board 100%. Even as a kid, it was obvious to me that the guy couldn't talk, but he had charisma out the wazoo. When they started doing this, I just bought in completely. It became so hilarious when they played it as "He knows he has a voice over that is saying stuff he doesn't want to say."

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Link_of_time
04/20/24 11:59:48 PM
#54:


StealThisSheen posted...
I love how I keep forgetting that Dean Malenko was a cruiserweight, because he was just so fucking talented in general that you forget he was a cruiserweight since he didn't really fit the mold they pushed, with people like Dragon/Mysterio/La Parka/Psicosis/etc. It made you appreciate how varied the division could be.
That was my favorite part about the division. It was deep with talent and so varied with wrestling. Rey and Ultimo were both masked wrestlers, but very different in style.

Still remember Jericho claiming to be the man of 1004 moves and reciting everyone of them. Half of which were just armbar.
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STEROLIZER
04/21/24 12:02:09 AM
#55:


  • God Tier: Eddie Guerrero, Chris Jericho, Brian Pillman, Chris Benoit, Jushin Liger, Rey Mysterio
  • A-Tier: Alex Wright, La Parka, Blitzkrieg, Shane Helms, Billy Kidman, Syxx, Disco Inferno, Juvetude Guerrera, Dean Malenko, Ultimo Dragon, Lance Storm, Psicosis
  • B-Tier: Mr JL, Tokyo Magnum, Chavo Guerrero, Jimmy Yang, Kaz Hayashi, Jamie Noble
  • C-Tier: Shannon Moore, Lash LaRoux, Chris Candido, Elix Skipper, Crowbar, Silver King, El Dandy, Los Villanos, Hector Garza, Super Calo, Damien, Ciclope, Lizmark
  • D-Tier: Brad Armstrong, Marty Jannetty, Lenny Lane, Lodi
  • F-Tier: Prince Iaukea, Evan Karagias


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FortuneCookie
04/21/24 12:02:38 AM
#56:


Damien never actually wrestled in WCW with 666 on his head, right?
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King_Rial
04/21/24 12:04:08 AM
#57:


The Moss-Covered, Three Handled, Family Gredunza!
Armbar!

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STEROLIZER
04/21/24 12:05:21 AM
#58:


FortuneCookie posted...
Damien never actually wrestled in WCW with 666 on his head, right?

He did at first. Then someone caught on.
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StealThisSheen
04/21/24 12:07:11 AM
#59:


Link_of_time posted...
Still remember Jericho claiming to be the man of 1004 moves and reciting everyone of them. Half of which were just armbar.

"Armbar!
The moss-covered, three handled family Gredenza!
Armbar!
The Saskatchewan spinning nerve hold!
Armbar!"

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FortuneCookie
04/21/24 12:07:48 AM
#60:


STEROLIZER posted...
He did at first. Then someone caught on.

Oh, wow. He got the Ultimate Solution treatment.

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StealThisSheen
04/21/24 12:08:56 AM
#61:


King_Rial posted...
The Moss-Covered, Three Handled, Family Gredunza!
Armbar!

We're friends now.

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StealThisSheen
04/21/24 12:11:06 AM
#62:


STEROLIZER posted...
God Tier: Eddie Guerrero, Chris Jericho, Brian Pillman, Chris Benoit, Jushin Liger, Rey Mysterio
A-Tier: Alex Wright, La Parka, Blitzkrieg, Shane Helms, Billy Kidman, Syxx, Disco Inferno, Juvetude Guerrera, Dean Malenko, Ultimo Dragon, Lance Storm, Psicosis

The crazy thing is that you could put anybody from this list together, and you were guaranteed a good match. Hell, you could include some of the B-tier people, too. It didn't matter, you just got a good match, period.

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STEROLIZER
04/21/24 12:15:09 AM
#63:


StealThisSheen posted...
We're friends now.

Jericho is actually reading the list in the art
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STEROLIZER
04/21/24 12:15:57 AM
#64:


StealThisSheen posted...
The crazy thing is that you could put anybody from this list together, and you were guaranteed a good match. Hell, you could include some of the B-tier people, too. It didn't matter, you just got a good match, period.

So long as Prince Iaukea didnt wrestle Evan Karagias
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StealThisSheen
04/21/24 12:25:09 AM
#65:


STEROLIZER posted...
So long as Prince Iaukea didnt wrestle Evan Karagias

There used to be this joke news wrestling site back in the day, and they'd make fake clips out of actual commentary, and one of the things they made was taking Tony Schiavone clips to push something as "The greatest wrestling match of all time," and I want to say it was... Prince Iaukea vs. Disco Inferno? It was hilarious, but it was also a product of the 90s, and I have no idea if it even exists anymore, or where to find it. I just know they spliced commentary sound clips together to make a fake match of Iaukea/Disco sound like the most incredible thing ever.

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King_Rial
04/21/24 12:27:50 AM
#66:


StealThisSheen posted...
We're friends now.
Yes we are.

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StealThisSheen
04/21/24 12:29:07 AM
#67:


StealThisSheen posted...
There used to be this joke news wrestling site back in the day, and they'd make fake clips out of actual commentary, and one of the things they made was taking Tony Schiavone clips to push something as "The greatest wrestling match of all time," and I want to say it was... Prince Iaukea vs. Disco Inferno? It was hilarious, but it was also a product of the 90s, and I have no idea if it even exists anymore, or where to find it. I just know they spliced commentary sound clips together to make a fake match of Iaukea/Disco sound like the most incredible thing ever.

Oh geez, Google helped me find remnants of it. It was called Wrestleline, and I only know that because Angelfire still has pages that exist, and I immediately recognized one of the articles, "Big Poppa Pump Explodes":

Big Poppa Pump explodes
KNOXVILLE, TN - Thousands of fans in attendance and millions watching live around the world were witness last Monday to one of the most gruesome events in television history as Scott Steiner, a.k.a. "Big Poppa Pump," exploded on "WCW Nitro" following a match with Diamond Dallas Page.
As the match went back and forth, Vincent ran in, causing DDP to run into the referee. Buff Bagwell then threw powder in Page's eyes. DDP nonetheless nailed Vincent with the diamond cutter. Steiner then surprised Page with a chairshot, and strapped on the Steiner recliner for the win. Steiner then flexed for the audience in attendance, and exploded.
"It was one of the most gruesome, disgusting things I've ever seen," confessed one fan in attendance, too shaken up to elaborate.
"This is the greatest Nitro of all time," was announcer Tony Schiavone's only comment. "This is the single greatest moment in professional wrestling history." "I've seen a lot of wrestlers," added color commentator Larry Zbyzsko, "and I've seen a lot of wrestling. But never ... EVER ... have I seen a man explode during a pose-down."
Scott Steiner had been gaining more and more muscle tone in the past year, which led to his nickname of "Big Poppa Pump." But ever since Hollywood Hogan's return at the helm of the New World Order, Steiner's been feeling a bit insecure.
"Scotty felt the pressure," said Marcus "Buff" Bagwell, "and tripled his bodybuilding efforts, just to keep up with the popularity of the reformed team and not get tossed." Steiner will be away from action for an indefinite period of time, depending on the severity of the explosion.

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absolutebuffoon
04/21/24 12:33:46 AM
#68:


I only recognize Spider-Man.

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STEROLIZER
04/21/24 2:30:06 AM
#69:


absolutebuffoon posted...
I only recognize Spider-Man.

Not Skeletor or John Travolta?
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_Valigarmanda_
04/21/24 3:32:59 AM
#70:


I was able to name like 95% without cheating

My favorite CWs were Rey, Dean Malenko, Psychosis, and of course, The Chairman

https://youtu.be/-CkN-ELxpwI?si=kKqOPnpXMV0_YkCm

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STEROLIZER
04/21/24 3:39:54 AM
#71:


_Valigarmanda_ posted...
I was able to name like 95% without cheating

My favorite CWs were Rey, Dean Malenko, Psychosis, and of course, The Chairman


I always rooted for Alex Wright. We did the dance on the playground everytime we scored a goal/touchdown, hit a homerun, nailed a three pointer, etc
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Daremo
04/21/24 3:42:39 AM
#72:


STEROLIZER posted...
Jim wishes he had those dance moves

You think Carrey can't canter?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyPc-1QdzSE

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STEROLIZER
04/21/24 3:49:45 AM
#73:


Daremo posted...
You think Carrey can't canter?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyPc-1QdzSE

https://youtube.com/shorts/6NeMMgfK-lM?si=lRsPKGA_EC3_jsSH
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STEROLIZER
04/21/24 4:23:02 AM
#74:


https://youtu.be/Iq-HFpaI53o?si=VZBJ_R698K8f_L-X
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STEROLIZER
04/21/24 4:33:54 AM
#75:


FortuneCookie posted...
Oh, wow. He got the Ultimate Solution treatment.

Da wat now?
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ExtremeLuchador
04/21/24 7:15:02 AM
#76:


Remember Rey Mysterio losing on every PPV in 1997? Remember X-Pac's reign of terror as Cruiserweight Champion in 1997? 5 minute matches marred with nWo interference? Then they had him lose it to Chris Jericho in 30 seconds at a house show because Bischoff was mad at Kevin Nash or something.

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"It was horrible," guard Jeff McInnis said.
"I took 100 naps and we were still in the air."
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STEROLIZER
04/21/24 12:05:46 PM
#77:


ExtremeLuchador posted...
Remember Rey Mysterio losing on every PPV in 1997? Remember X-Pac's reign of terror as Cruiserweight Champion in 1997? 5 minute matches marred with nWo interference? Then they had him lose it to Chris Jericho in 30 seconds at a house show because Bischoff was mad at Kevin Nash or something.

He won this match

https://youtu.be/sqRYKCH8dUc?si=pVDBLVau28waYqqB
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ExtremeLuchador
04/21/24 12:37:19 PM
#78:


STEROLIZER posted...
He won this match

https://youtu.be/sqRYKCH8dUc?si=pVDBLVau28waYqqB
He lost like 8 PPVs in a row before that.

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STEROLIZER
04/21/24 12:40:00 PM
#79:


ExtremeLuchador posted...
He lost like 8 PPVs in a row before that.

Bit this is the one that counts
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STEROLIZER
04/21/24 12:46:01 PM
#80:


I always dig this match from GAB 95

Alex Wright vs Brian Pillman
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x18nplj
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STEROLIZER
04/21/24 12:56:35 PM
#81:


This was the initial tournament that began the cruiserweight division. WCW kept referencing a fictional tournament in Japan taking place to crown the first champ, when in reality it was just Ohtani rematching Benoit from the Super Juniors tournament.

Ohtani won, was granted the belt, then lost it to Malenko on worldwide in what was a 6 minute match about a week later then never showed up on WCW Television ever again.

WCW stuck with the whole tournament angle, so I guess technically this is what they are referencing, considering in the bout that debuted the cruiser title Benoit put his Super Juniors title on the win as well.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/1cb0d85f.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a89e508a.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a192522d.jpg

  • Black Tiger II is Eddie Guerrero
  • Wild Pegasus is Chris Benoit
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Link_of_time
04/21/24 1:19:18 PM
#82:


Loved a lot of the CW division theme music, Mysterio in particular.
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STEROLIZER
04/21/24 8:05:22 PM
#83:


Alright, I think that I managed the rank every single person to ever compete in the WCW Cruiserweight division

Some of the event on to great things elsewhere. Im just ranking what I remember of their WCW runs.

Did I miss anyone?

  1. Rey Mysterio
  2. Chris Jericho
  3. Eddie Guerrero
  4. Alex Wright
  5. La Parka
  6. Jushin Liger
  7. Ultimo Dragon
  8. Brian Pillman
  9. Chris Benoit
  10. Disco Inferno
  11. Syxx
  12. Juvetude Guerrera
  13. Billy Kidman
  14. Dean Malenko
  15. Blitzkrieg
  16. Psicosis
  17. Shane Helms
  18. Chavo Guerrero
  19. Lance Storm
  20. Tokyo Magnum
  21. Jimmy Yang
  22. AJ Styles
  23. El Dandy
  24. Silver King
  25. Los Villanos
  26. Super Calo
  27. Hector Garza
  28. Damien
  29. Ciclope
  30. Lizmark
  31. Kaz Hayashi
  32. Jamie Noble
  33. Lash LaRoux
  34. Shannon Moore
  35. Chris Candido
  36. Mr JL
  37. Elix Skipper
  38. Crowbar
  39. Lenny Lane
  40. Lodi
  41. Mikey Whipwreck
  42. Jimmy Del Ray
  43. Brad Armstrong
  44. Marty Janetty
  45. Yugi Nagata
  46. Stevie Richards
  47. Kid Kash
  48. Shark Boy
  49. Christopher Daniels
  50. Tony Marmaluke
  51. Lil Romeo
  52. Gedo
  53. Shinjiro Ohtani
  54. Koji Kanemoto
  55. Gran Hamada
  56. El Samurai
  57. Sabu
  58. Chris Adams
  59. Doc Dean
  60. Robbie Brookside
  61. Super Dragon
  62. Mike Modest
  63. Air Paris
  64. James Storm
  65. Evan Karagias
  66. Kwee Wee
  67. EZ Money
  68. El Gato
  69. Cima
  70. Norio Honaga
  71. Daniel Facquir
  72. Sonny Siaki
  73. Jorge Estrada
  74. Johnny Swinger
  75. Scott Putski
  76. Bobbie Roode
  77. Bobby Eaton
  78. Hector Guerrero
  79. The Armstrongs
  80. Barry Horowitz
  81. Madusa
  82. Jacquelin
  83. Luna Vachon
  84. Sonny Onoo
  85. Daffney
  86. Sunny
  87. Violent J
  88. Wolfie D
  89. JC Ice
  90. Mike Sanders
  91. Jet Jaguar
  92. Judo Suwa
  93. Jeremy Lopez
  94. Tommy Rogers
  95. Michael Shane
  96. Paul London
  97. Bobby Walker
  98. Prince Iaukea/Cheetah Kid
  99. Ed Ferrara
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STEROLIZER
04/22/24 1:03:29 AM
#84:


Found one without the watermark
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/ca067702.jpg
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