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Enchantress
04/23/24 1:24:56 PM
#352:


ItzKnightz posted...
I'm not complaining about your vote, I have seen all the Marvel movies.

ItzKnightz posted...
So I know a lot of curse words.

I really hope you're not a troll account because this is adorable. I'm going to bring this up next time my improv show director tells me I'm not allowed to swear, she's constantly using the marvel movie analogy for how quasi pg the tone of our show should be.

It's just a funny line from Toy Story, don't worry about it.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/23/24 1:25:09 PM
#353:


PunishedBen posted...
Before you get pissed, consider this.

My plan was to position myself as a mislynch that scum needs and use it as close to end game as possible, preferably before final 4 or 3 even, and hopefully secure victory. I WISH I had saved Kirby, but I did not know that his role was as important as it was on night 1. Since that failure to commit night 1, I've been so embarrassed I've just been not using it until the moment is right.

Y'all are too busy trying to make a legendary play that you fail to make a GOOD one and we're worse off for it.

I would say death today and Sbell tomorrow. Hopefully you die at night, if not Ulti's confirmed self becomes awkward for scum to deal with. Scum can't block you (to kill Ulti) and Knightz so even if death isn't RBer, something would happen.

Knightz: Do NOT reveal who you will target tonight. Make it harder for scum to make good decisions.

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ItzKnightz
04/23/24 1:27:12 PM
#354:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Y'all are too busy trying to make a legendary play that you fail to make a GOOD one and we're worse off for it.

I would say death today and Sbell tomorrow. Hopefully you die at night, if not Ulti's confirmed self becomes awkward for scum to deal with. Scum can't block you (to kill Ulti) and Knightz so even if death isn't RBer, something would happen.

Knightz: Do NOT reveal who you will target tonight. Make it harder for scum to make good decisions.
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htaeD
04/23/24 1:29:01 PM
#355:


Fun time to eat dinner it appears.

Granted I like Sbell and Ben enough to feel good about our chances regardless of what happens, but I would still like some time to look back at the previous days myself now that I am finally able to.

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PunishedBen
04/23/24 1:29:51 PM
#356:


Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunny thing

I forgot they can roleblock me. I'll try my best to die going forward

Shindig


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ItzKnightz
04/23/24 1:30:50 PM
#357:


Hey, they will probably just roleblock me again during the next night phase.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/23/24 1:32:06 PM
#358:


wallmasterz posted...
With your strongman ability, once per game you may perform an extra kill in addition to the teams even night kills. You may use the kill on any night, odd or even, and no power exists in the game to stop you.

You would not have been able to bodyguard Lopen even if you had correctly done so n1 is how I read Red's flip.

But you still should have tried and you should have targeted Ulti or Corrik on 2/3.

These are not opinions, you objectively and factually should have been attempting to use your damn role.

Whatever I'm gonna put my vote down and get back to work.

##Vote: Death

Death > Sbell > Ben (if he's somehow still alive) > Lea


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htaeD
04/23/24 1:33:10 PM
#359:


Still first thought is that Lea just got counterclaimed by Ben, in a way.
Though I realize BP and BG are both possible statistically.

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Enchantress
04/23/24 1:33:57 PM
#360:


PunishedBen posted...
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunny thing

I forgot they can roleblock me. I'll try my best to die going forward

Shindig

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Forceful_Dragon
04/23/24 1:34:22 PM
#361:


ItzKnightz posted...
Hey, they will probably just roleblock me again during the next night phase.

They can't Roleblock you and Ben at the same time so if they block you then Ben gets to bodyguard successfully.

Also there is a non-0% chance that we kill the roleblocker with a lynch. And either the game ends or scum team is larger than we thought but you both get to act at night without being blocked.

In a scenario where town has both BG and BP I'd guess that 4+1 vs 10 becomes possible again, so we may still be looking for 2 scum.

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ItzKnightz
04/23/24 1:34:38 PM
#362:


Enchantress posted...
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What is that supposed to mean?

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htaeD
04/23/24 1:34:45 PM
#363:


PunishedBen posted...
And no I did not attempt to bodyguard anyone each night so far. Very selfish of me I know. Was always planning to claim vanilla and hold my ability unless i was in the mislynch pool, then id have used it at the last possible night to take myself out and help town solve the game. I will use it tonight and die if no one believes me.

I dont like this tho.

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Enchantress
04/23/24 1:36:08 PM
#364:


ItzKnightz posted...
What is that supposed to mean?

It means like, "that's such an outlandish statement I have no words"

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htaeD
04/23/24 1:36:51 PM
#365:


On the other hand why not just fake BGing Knightz each night is what I would wonder about a scumBen scenario.

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ItzKnightz
04/23/24 1:37:46 PM
#366:


htaeD posted...
On the other hand why not just fake BGing Knightz each night is what I would wonder about a scumBen scenario.
I thought you said you had to go back to work?

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htaeD
04/23/24 1:38:35 PM
#367:


No no. My timezone is 6/8 hours ahead of America. I am done with work now, and also done with dinner.

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ItzKnightz
04/23/24 1:38:53 PM
#368:


htaeD posted...
No no. My timezone is 6/8 hours ahead of America. I am done with work now, and also done with dinner.
Oh ok.

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PunishedBen
04/23/24 1:39:02 PM
#369:


What I meant by it is that I somewhat regret blowing my identity as bodyguard on trying to gambit you. Did not think of that consequence because I didnt think we had to worry about you being town. But here we are. >_>


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Enchantress
04/23/24 1:40:28 PM
#371:


PunishedBen posted...
What I meant by it is that I somewhat regret blowing my identity as bodyguard on trying to gambit you. Did not think of that consequence because I didnt think we had to worry about you being town. But here we are. >_>

Yeah I know, I feel like I didn't use enough ellipsises if anything

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htaeD
04/23/24 1:40:48 PM
#372:


I mean scum could just RB Knightz again anyway and kill you straight up.
And that seems like a better outcome than Ulti dying at least.

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PunishedBen
04/23/24 1:42:04 PM
#373:


Enchantress posted...
, I will say that my true role is a bulletproof forcefield dog.
Thats the role name?

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Forceful_Dragon
04/23/24 1:42:40 PM
#374:


UltimaterializerX posted...
I dont think its Death.

I think it's one of him or Sbell. I'm more threatened by Death so I'd just as soon take him off the board first.

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Obellisk
04/23/24 1:44:27 PM
#375:


pretty sure is death or fd.

I don't care the orser we lynch them.

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Obellisk
04/23/24 1:45:13 PM
#376:


FD has spent more time arguing rules, standards and principals.

What a good way for scum ti spend their time.

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htaeD
04/23/24 1:45:38 PM
#377:


PunishedBen posted...
Thats the role name?

Flavor checks out.

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Obellisk
04/23/24 1:45:58 PM
#378:


all the while he's had this annoyed edge to him all Game, almost like his teammate got rocked day 1 hour 1.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/23/24 1:47:07 PM
#379:


Obellisk posted...
pretty sure is death or fd.

I don't care the orser we lynch them.

And I know it's not me. My only question about you is whether you would have been doing The Claw nonsense as game as theater.

It's possible you pulled green aliens off the dagger list and committed to it early, and if you did, kudos, that's a very strong play to make.

But if it isn't death then I know it's not me so you become next most logical.

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htaeD
04/23/24 1:49:37 PM
#380:


I do want to ask Lea in what way she was trying to draw a nightkill

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Forceful_Dragon
04/23/24 1:49:37 PM
#381:


Obellisk posted...
all the while he's had this annoyed edge to him all Game, almost like his teammate got rocked day 1 hour 1.

I'm annoyed that you all FUCKED UP the advantage we had from scum being killed hour 1. We had an EASY way to chill and NOT get our tracker killed for no reason night 1.

Hell scum probably doesn't bother using their EK strong-arm on night 1 without a claimed scanner so it would have changed literally everything.

So yeah, I'm annoyed because y'all are being annoying in decidedly anti town ways.

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PunishedBen
04/23/24 1:59:04 PM
#382:


Lea, if you are bulletproof then why did you ask Knightz for Clothing day 2?

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Obellisk
04/23/24 2:00:31 PM
#383:


I didn't fuck up shit, so tone it down there buddy boy.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/23/24 2:01:21 PM
#384:


We don't know what the clothing does, it wouldn't necessarily be redundant with BP.

Hell Ken could essentially be a renamed weak prosty in that he'll be confirmed if anyone can acknowledge they received "groovy clothes" at night, even if they don't DO anything

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PunishedBen
04/23/24 2:02:31 PM
#385:


Asking what lea thought though

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Forceful_Dragon
04/23/24 2:03:42 PM
#386:


Obellisk posted...
I didn't fuck up shit, so tone it down there buddy boy.

It was a collective "you all", which does include you, yes.

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Enchantress
04/23/24 2:10:27 PM
#387:


htaeD posted...
I do want to ask Lea in what way she was trying to draw a nightkill

I was really annoying towards scum Red. Red used to say he'd kill me as scum. I guess he'll probably say he was caught for the wrong reasons and he was just busy, but I knew after Lopen flipped town. I knew.

Beyond that, I posted what could be a Jessie breadcrumb for a potential deputy who scanned Red.

I usually draw kills just by existing, but I'm no ability to post song lyrics at night role, aka must kill. I was more disappointed I didn't draw a scan, that wss part of my motivation for AFKing after the godfather flipped. Was sad I didn't get to be innocent scanned secret BP.

PunishedBen posted...
Asking what lea thought though

I like presents, I didn't consider they were bullet proof vests at all. I thought they'd most likely be trinket text or weak powers like one double vote. I hoped perhaps I could use it beneficially in some way as a pseudo immortal, but it was mostly just for fun. I browbeat scum Sultan into giving me an item last game, and here I thought "hey Knightz is earnest, he targetted Kirby just for asking, I should ask politely"

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Enchantress
04/23/24 2:14:36 PM
#388:


Ideally I would have liked for scum to think I was protection after FD floated the idea, but I ended up committing to claiming today because I just don't have any credibility this game. I dunno. I think in an alternate timeline where we no lynch day one, lynch Red over Ctes day two, it's just the easiest stomp in the world. Maybe Red is less obvious without the Lopen interaction day one, but I mean those decisions taken in a vaccuum each day. I may not be a smart dog, but I know what roadkill is.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/23/24 2:17:43 PM
#389:


As explanations go I like it better than courage the cowardly bodyguard

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Enchantress
04/23/24 2:30:56 PM
#390:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
As explanations go I like it better than courage the cowardly bodyguard

Lmao


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htaeD
04/23/24 2:37:12 PM
#391:


Noticed Sbell didnt have Red in his scumtop3 day2.

Now I can admire Sbell going against the common trends, but I do have to ask him if he can recall why that was.


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Obellisk
04/23/24 3:22:47 PM
#392:


htaeD posted...
Noticed Sbell didnt have Red in his scumtop3 day2.

Now I can admire Sbell going against the common trends, but I do have to ask him if he can recall why that was.


guy was calling me town.

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htaeD
04/23/24 3:42:42 PM
#393:


Flattery is a decent excuse I guess
Anyway I am more tired than I thought, and rereading is getting me nowhere that Ben hasnt also been before.
FD did sound rather salty at Ulti at the start of day2, but I cant tell if thats because Ulti was claiming a guilty scan or because he was still annoyed with the end of day1 (which was his given reasoning, but still)

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Forceful_Dragon
04/23/24 3:49:36 PM
#394:


I was salty that at the end of day 1 Ulti said I went afk to save myself. Nevermind that it was a busy work day, but the point when I left for my dentist appointment (which in fairness I didn't announce, but didn't think I needed to) I want even particularly in danger.

I was glad he had a guilty scan to report and was prepared to lunch whoever it was on because I knew it couldn't be me.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/23/24 3:51:32 PM
#395:


Sbell do you know off hand what your most recent scum games were?

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htaeD
04/23/24 3:59:09 PM
#396:


Yeah its more the sentence where you said you expected Ulti to be lying about having a guilty scan (and that he had an innocent scan instead) that I found to be an unusual sentence.
At the time others found it pointless to say as well

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Forceful_Dragon
04/23/24 4:07:48 PM
#397:


It's Ulti. I still wouldn't be surprised to learn that the ctes scan was a lie

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Enchantress
04/23/24 4:26:58 PM
#398:


Ulti is clearly imposter Buzz the fake mason. This is a joke. The humour comes from the dissonance between such an outlandish claim and the confirmed town mason reality. This is merely an attempt at levity based on a humourous flavour observation. There are multiple times in the "Toy Story" film franchise where Buzz is replaced or factory reset to serve as an antagonist. It is not a legitimate conspiracy theory to try and lynch Ulti. It is a dry humour that relies on the audience to know that the statement is so obviously fake, that it is not a sincere attempt to mislead them. Jokes can be considered a form of benevolent lie - and the receiver laughs as a form of relief, the amusement that two people are comfortable enough to pal around with hyperbole. The contrast between a normal every day interaction and cartoonish tomfoolery that entertains us at the motion picture show. Perhaps you could also say something to the effect of "ha ha this is my best Lopen impersonation", thus engaging in a shared meme (Lopen and his zany theories), something the group can bond about, and perhaps Lopen likes the attention without it passing over into the realm of bullying. I know I was a little sad no one roasted me for my champs game bio, although I am a veteran of many a mafia game here I just can't get a meme to stick. That also applies in real life too. I guess I come off as too fragile to banter with, or perhaps I try and banter and bring a gun to a toothpick fight. Good on the stage, perhaps not as fun as waiting 48 hours to see if Red will post something game relevant or not. Regardless, I know that tone can be difficult to convey over text, or perhaps things make sense in my head and I don't articulate enough for people to follow my thought process. I hope perhaps with a simple little elaboration I can have better communication and ensure people understand that this is not a serious theory. Perhaps with time I will focus on bringing enlightenment to others to understand my arguments instead of being cryptic to make myself laugh, or doing bits like over the top long no line break messages out of what I know is unhelpful spite, but it's entertaining in the moment to see if my stream of consciousness can become a mighty river. I still it's Sbell if I'm being entirely honest, I think on a small scum team you're incentivized to not bus, and I think Sbell saying he thinks it's 4 scum is an attempt to skew people's thought process. He doesn't seem to be looking for pairs and when I voted him he reacted with resignation and no real game opinion of me. I think over the course of this joke post I've talked myself into voting Sbell even though I don't think I have the town cred to insist upon this, I guess the theory is Ben's read of Red wanting to get town cred for calling town accurately, or my theory that they wanted to avoid bussing but didn't really pull it off because they are scum Red and scum Sbell. I'm willing to lynch Death because Death has been the last scum I catch recently. Hopefully Ulti doesn't start speaking Spanish and it's not FD or Knightz, I think I trust my town reads there.

Tldr; Ulti is an imposter Buzz, the second godfather, hundo pundo.

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ItzKnightz
04/23/24 4:29:09 PM
#399:


That is a lot to take in, but I trust you.
##unvote
##vote: Ulti

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htaeD
04/23/24 4:29:26 PM
#400:


I aint readin that. I am sure its hilarious tho.

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