Board 8 > Toy Story Mafia Topic 5 - Purchased in a Leveraged Buyout

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Death was very active day 1 so hopefully we can get that energy today. This may be more of a live decision than I thought, because this re-read is mostly making me like Death more than I did a few posts ago

Did Lea push for Red on day 2 despite the claimed SK because she KNEW he was scum and knew pushing him could only make her look good while backing off of him to go with lynching the SK could only make her look like she's harboring Red?

Obellisk posted...

Hey, I was plenty active this game considering the lynches have been mostly sorted out.

I do feel bad over the whole mzero thing but hey, we're winning. probably.

True. The game has been so on rails not even Ulti has managed to throw it off

Enchantress posted...

I'm Slink, TOWN Vanilla

Just like you slink by under my radar huh

UltimaterializerX posted...

I feel like Lea was scummoned yesterday when I voted for her and played to a weakness she knows I have as a player. I think shes the best lynch today, followed by FD. There is some real two irl friends rolled scum together vibe with his Red interactions that I cant shake.

I'm sorry I was rude, but since that's how you defend yourself when you get suspected I thought it would be an argument that worked, and fair game. I just wanted you to stay on target with the caught scum, etc.

UltimaterializerX posted...

I dont think its SBell.

Corrik was the confirmed player killed instead of me because I basically always start choking right here. Scum knows this, so obviously the scum has to be someone Im familiar with enough to play into certain issues I have with endgames. Another point in SBells favor as town, because he knows I auto kill him here in most spots and would just take me off the board.

Yeah I think its Lea and/or FD. Possibly both.

##Vote: Lea

Those are damn good points.

Enchantress posted...

I mean. Probably. Felt very strongly about lynching Ctes over Red, really not doing much. The truly bizarre Chang kill.

I also agree with mass claiming today.

Cuz here's the thing wasn't everyone strong about lynching Ctes over Red? I mean besides you, and me for a brief moment after you hyped me up on the idea.

PunishedBen posted...

Did Lea push for Red on day 2 despite the claimed SK because she KNEW he was scum and knew pushing him could only make her look good while backing off of him to go with lynching the SK could only make her look like she's harboring Red?

ummm I keep ulti alive to kill him in final 3. always. Town or scum.

I really wouldn't want to have to go through an entire final three like that. You don't even get bussing credit when the entire game thinks the busee is scum. I like to think I could sway such a dead game better than that.

But anyway, if you want to get it out of your systems it's not a huge deal, I think if there's one scum you still win and if there's two losing was probably inevitable. And no I don't care at all that town keeps saying that and immediately losing the game. There's not going to be any smoking gun in water this still. It's all a meat grinder, and unlike some I'm not going to get all salty because you got one mislynch before getting the inevitable last scum.

However, I strongly recommend enforcing the mass claim today.

We're doing it eh
I am Duke Caboom - TOWN Vanilla
Dont have a lot of time to post yet, so I will just answer this first

PunishedBen posted...

Do you remember why I was on your scum list start of day 2? One of the last things you did day 1 was join in with Kirby to tell people they shouldn't put votes on me

I recall it was mostly just PoE at that point. Plus me feeling Lea and FD played it less safe than you at that point.

Now that more time has passed tho, I realize I actually dont dislike your output. Day3 especially you seemed to get back into the overconfident Ben that I expected.

Oh and one more thought I had when I saw Red flip is that scum probably does only get 3 members total. That hidden hammerer role puts them over the top otherwise IMO.

Lastly, I also would lynch Lea and FD before Ben and Sbell. At least as I am right now, still need to finish an extensive red ISO
I even wonder about FD since Red did yell at him for trying to start that NL stuff. But that could just be theater.

PunishedBen posted...

By the way, were you roleblocked last night Knightz?

yeah
Obellisk posted...

yah, Knightz, what's up with your clothes bro

I don't know what they do.

Whi did you target?

Can you tell I am phoneposting now. Its subtle aint it?

htaeD posted...

Whi did you target?

I targeted Ulti

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Howdy howdy howdy

I gave my flavor hint in my first post (t1p76)

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/976ae350.jpg

I am Mr. Shark, Town Vanilla

I also find Lea's vanilla claim to be questionable, but in a way that makes her more likely to be town? Lea, you should really claim for real if you aren't vanilla.

Leaving Sbell, or Death? Possibly Ben, but his solving the past couple days has felt good and not just because he feels better about me as a result of it.

ItzKnightz posted...

I targeted Ulti

Were you roleblocked again?

Also I haven't been home in a few days so I'm still stuck updating my spreadsheet on mobile until tomorrow evening.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a2bc10f5.png

Still need sbells claim unless I missed it.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

I gave my flavor hint in my first post (t1p76)

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/976ae350.jpg

I am Mr. Shark, Town Vanilla

I also find Lea's vanilla claim to be questionable, but in a way that makes her more likely to be town? Lea, you should really claim for real if you aren't vanilla.

Leaving Sbell, or Death? Possibly Ben, but his solving the past couple days has felt good and not just because he feels better about me as a result of it.

I don't wanna, people will yell at me

As opposed to yelling at you now?

Whether there are 1 or 2 scum left (and I tend to agree that it feels like 1 when you consider the early hammer and EK) it's time to put it all on the table.

Sbell first. He was last to claim, so probably scum.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Whether there are 1 or 2 scum left (and I tend to agree that it feels like 1 when you consider the early hammer and EK) it's time to put it all on the table.

Imagine Corrik shot Red

Enchantress posted...

Sbell first. He was last to claim, so probably scum.

Or you are waiting for his claim before adjusting your fake claim?

But you could just same time

I mean. One role is clearly missing here.

I already claimed, a same time hardly seems fair.

So you're saying that you're claim was 100% truthful? And if you change any aspect of it we should lynch you?

Yes, that's exactly what I said, great job

Hm, Slink as a nilla I dont think is impossible (if thats what you are getting at FD)

Votals

Lea (1) - Ulti
Sbell (0) - (Lea), (Knightz)

Nothing will ever top the flavor meta of Lady Maria anyway

looking at the current player list, it looks like we have three possible scums who lied about their claim: SBell, Ben, and Death.
I'm not sure about Death and SBell but Ben is sus.

Sbell hasnt even claimed yet?
Also what about FD and Lea?

FD earned my trust by sticking up for me and Lea is a nice person and claimed TOWN Vanilla.

Well 1: There is no rule that says scum cannot stick up for town. (Though now I have something else to pay attention to while rereading)
2: Ben and I have claimed TOWN Vanilla too. And I dont think I have been notnice (Bens been nice as well really)

I am not saying this because I suspect you. Moreso because in the event that I die before you (through a lynching, lets be honest), I want you to remember that you should be skeptical of everyone lest you doom town by so happily voting early.

htaeD posted...

Hm, Slink as a nilla I dont think is impossible (if thats what you are getting at FD)

I don't know that I would say "impossible", but atm I'm pressing X to doubt.

Also thanks to Ulti and Corrik both starting splinter votes I had the option yesterday to swap to either Lea or Sbell and potentially save red, but I did not.

Here are the posts where I considered it:

Forceful_Dragon posted...

As 99.9% confirmed town you would support a Lea lynch before a Red lynch?

.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

The fact that it's both Ulti and Corrik in Lea's direction is intriguing. Two voices that are more or less confirmed beyond reproach.

I don't especially have a good reason to lynch her outside of PoE though so staying the course on red seems fine.

.

I could have just as easily said "screw it, something about the red train hasn't felt right, and I know you're and Corrik most be town so I'm going to throw in with them." But I did not.

Yeah but if you voted in a way where Red could use his double hammer to survive the day, it would just make you look bad once we inevitably kill Red the next day.

:shrug:

I didn't know red was scum with 100% certainly so I did consider it.

Hell it was only me and Lea and knightz holding the red lynch down at the end. What was your excuse Death, Sbell and Ben?

I for some reason thought it was -1 and didnt want to hammer Red too early.
I even asked for someone to unvote so I could vote.