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04/14/24 10:01:40 AM
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Bio1590
04/14/24 11:00:11 AM
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https://twitter.com/CarymaRules/status/1779246864379826299

These people are absolute fucking lunatics

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Tyranthraxus
04/14/24 11:02:18 AM
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It just goes to show they don't really care about Palestine their primary purpose was just hating Jews the whole time.

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Bio1590
04/14/24 11:10:45 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
It just goes to show they don't really care about Palestine their primary purpose was just hating Jews the whole time.

Exactly.

And it's not even Iranians cheering this on either, because at this point the vast majority of Iran's diaspora, a significant chunk of Iran's remaining population, and Israel actually want the same thing!

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hitokoriX
04/14/24 11:13:44 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
It just goes to show they don't really care about Palestine their primary purpose was just hating Jews the whole time.

Not even close. People actively despise the state of Israel for their repeated violation of international law with seemingly no consequences. One major line is "Israel has the right to defend itself". Well if Israel does -- so does Iran. Also lets not walk out that tired "If you hate Israel you hate Jews" rhetoric because its demonstrably false.

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falayyou01
04/14/24 11:14:42 AM
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hitokoriX posted...
Not even close. People actively despise the state of Israel for their repeated violation of international law with seemingly no consequences. One major line is "Israel has the right to defend itself". Well if Israel does -- so does Iran. Also lets not walk out that tired "If you hate Israel you hate Jews" rhetoric because its demonstrably false.
This. You cant instigate an attack against a countrys top generals on foreign embassy soil and not expect some form of retaliation.

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PowerMan5000000
04/14/24 11:15:02 AM
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Those people need to be deported asap

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ooger
04/14/24 11:15:46 AM
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UNFUN FACT!

Iran is closer than ever to having nukes, thanks to Donald Trump.

https://apnews.com/article/iran-iaea-nuclear-quarterly-report-bca494913fbc8ccc1621466fe9c221e6

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legendary_zell
04/14/24 11:17:07 AM
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Nah, they probably think a country is committing genocide with impunity and another evil country that got attacked by the genociders is retaliating, and that's why they're cheering. Because Israel is being treated normally for once. When you attack another country, you typically get attacked back.

They could hate Jews, but I don't think that's the most obvious or likely explanation here.

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invertedlegdrop
04/14/24 11:18:05 AM
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think i still have some old 261ers tagged as Iran simps...

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Prismsblade
04/14/24 11:19:08 AM
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Considering the circumstances, especially recent ones.....no, not really.

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SaikyoStyle
04/14/24 11:19:58 AM
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legendary_zell posted...
Nah, they probably think a country is committing genocide with impunity and another evil country that got attacked by the genociders is retaliating, and that's why they're cheering. Because Israel is being treated normally for once. When you attack another country, you typically get attacked back.

They could hate Jews, but I don't think that's the most obvious or likely explanation here.
If they do, they usually slip up and reveal that at some point in the conversation.

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LeoRavus
04/14/24 11:20:20 AM
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Maybe these people thought it was in defense of Palestine?

That whole area of the world has been a fucking mess for thousands of years. Wish we'd just stay out of it instead of making it worse.

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Fenriswolf
04/14/24 11:20:51 AM
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PowerMan5000000 posted...
Those people need to be deported asap

Does that include far right US politicians cheering for the destruction of Palestine?

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PowerMan5000000
04/14/24 11:21:46 AM
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Fenriswolf posted...
Does that include far right US politicians cheering for the destruction of Palestine?

Wtf? What in the world

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falayyou01
04/14/24 11:22:15 AM
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LeoRavus posted...
Maybe these people thought it was in defense of Palestine?

That whole area of the world has been a fucking mess for thousands of years. Wish we'd just stay out of it instead of making it worse.
Destabilization of the Middle East is part of US foreign policy 101.

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Bio1590
04/14/24 11:23:22 AM
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invertedlegdrop posted...
think i still have some old 261ers tagged as Iran simps...

A few of them definitely showed up in this topic lol

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Fenriswolf
04/14/24 11:25:39 AM
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PowerMan5000000 posted...
Wtf? What in the world

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/19/extreme-republican-palestine-conflict-us-muslim-safety

Graham described the conflict as a religious war and called on the Israelis to level the place.

Gaza is going to look like Tokyo and Berlin at the end of world war two when this is over. And if it doesnt look that way, Israel made a mistake, he told Fox News.

That was a sentiment echoed by another Republican senator, Tom Cotton.

As far as Im concerned, Israel can bounce the rubble in Gaza. Anything that happens in Gaza is the responsibility of Hamas, he told Fox News Sunday in reference to a warning by Winston Churchill about the dangers of the nuclear arms race leading to a war that will make the rubble bounce.

Senator Marco Rubio called for Israel to respond disproportionately.

The Florida governor, Ron DeSantis, told a campaign rally in Iowa that one way or another Palestinians were all complicit in Hamass crimes.

If you look at how they behave, not all of them are Hamas, but they are all antisemitic, he said.

Max Miller called on the Biden administration to get out of Israels way and to let Israel do what it needs to do best. He said there should be no rules of engagement.

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Aloc
04/14/24 11:26:22 AM
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PowerMan5000000 posted...
Those people need to be deported asap
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Dakimakura
04/14/24 11:26:44 AM
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Any day now those drones will get there.

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Shadow_Don
04/14/24 11:31:43 AM
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legendary_zell posted...
Nah, they probably think a country is committing genocide with impunity and another evil country that got attacked by the genociders is retaliating, and that's why they're cheering. Because Israel is being treated normally for once. When you attack another country, you typically get attacked back.

They could hate Jews, but I don't think that's the most obvious or likely explanation here.

Strangely leaving out the undisputed fact that Iran is the primary backers of hamas

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TimeForAction
04/14/24 11:32:31 AM
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Did they pour one out when all the drones got shot down
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Funkydog
04/14/24 11:34:30 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
It just goes to show they don't really care about Palestine their primary purpose was just hating Jews the whole time.
It could just be them hating Israeli's rather than Jewish people as a whole.

Not saying it's great to condemn an entire nation of people though but it is a difference.

Also what did people expect Iran to do? Israel attacked them and any western country would have responded similarly if Iran had attacked them in the same manner.

Fuck Iran though, but Israel simply received a response any other country would have for their actions.

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TheLiarParadox
04/14/24 11:37:01 AM
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No, not really.

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Bio1590
04/14/24 11:37:52 AM
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Funkydog posted...
It could just be them hating Israeli's rather than Jewish people as a whole.

At this point, given their other actions as a group, they absolutely do not deserve the benefit of the doubt.

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legendary_zell
04/14/24 11:37:59 AM
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Shadow_Don posted...
Strangely leaving out the undisputed fact that Iran is the primary backers of hamas

Bro, I explicitly called Iran an evil country. They're not the good guys, what do you want?

This is reaching "do you condemn Hamas???" levels of absurdity.

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ooger
04/14/24 11:38:20 AM
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PowerMan5000000 posted...
Those people need to be deported asap

ooger posted...
UNFUN FACT!

Iran is closer than ever to having nukes, thanks to Donald Trump.

https://apnews.com/article/iran-iaea-nuclear-quarterly-report-bca494913fbc8ccc1621466fe9c221e6


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Fenriswolf
04/14/24 11:38:42 AM
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Shadow_Don posted...
Strangely leaving out the undisputed fact that Iran is the primary backers of hamas

Strangely leaving out the undisputed fact Bibi himself let funding flow to an obvious terrorist organization to keep the Palestinians divided.

https://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Netanyahu-Money-to-Hamas-part-of-strategy-to-keep-Palestinians-divided-583082

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Funkydog
04/14/24 11:38:47 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
At this point, given their other actions as a group, they absolutely do not deserve the benefit of the doubt.
Israel or people protesting against Israel?

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streamofthesky
04/14/24 11:39:21 AM
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Shadow_Don posted...
Strangely leaving out the undisputed fact that Iran is the primary backers of hamas
Or that Iran is the #1 proponent of the sanctity of embassies and consulates.
No, divert your lying eyes from the fact they had a clown car of Islamic Revolutionary Guard members in a "civilian" building near the border with Israel!
Just remember it was still a consulate building on paper, no matter what it was being used for in reality, and that Iran values the sanctity of consulates and embassies more than any other nation in the history of Earth!
They would NEVER attack one themselves as long as you ignore history before 1981
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hockeybabe89
04/14/24 11:40:17 AM
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Most humans are incapable of seeing a conflict and not picking sides. They need a good and a bad side. It's pretty sad. They need to realize the world is a miserable shithole and most governments are evil and hate them.

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falayyou01
04/14/24 11:40:47 AM
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Fenriswolf posted...
Strangely leaving out the undisputed fact Bibi himself let funding flow to an obvious terrorist organization to keep the Palestinians divided.

https://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Netanyahu-Money-to-Hamas-part-of-strategy-to-keep-Palestinians-divided-583082
Its undisputed fact that Bibi did this in order to prevent the formation of a Palestinian state.

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Fenriswolf
04/14/24 11:41:01 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
At this point, given their other actions as a group, they absolutely do not deserve the benefit of the doubt.

What other actions? A bunch of fringe protesters that has very little influence on their country's foreign policy? As opposed to the IDF that lies continuously about their atrocities and yet the West continues to believe them?

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Shadow_Don
04/14/24 11:41:36 AM
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legendary_zell posted...
Bro, I explicitly called Iran an evil country. They're not the good guys, what do you want?

Yea thats not why I pointed out that they fund hamas.

I pointed it out because your implication that Iran was fairly retaliating from an unprovoked attack.

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hitokoriX
04/14/24 11:41:59 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
Or that Iran is the #1 proponent of the sanctity of embassies and consulates.
No, divert your lying eyes from the fact they had a clown car of Islamic Revolutionary Guard members in a "civilian" building near the border with Israel!
Just remember it was still a consulate building on paper, no matter what it was being used for in reality, and that Iran values the sanctity of consulates and embassies more than any other nation in the history of Earth!
They would NEVER attack one themselves as long as you ignore history before 1981

Most Israel supporters think history started on Oct 7th 2023 -- so this is cool to see. Did the US do anything to Iran back in the day that might have backfired?

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Fenriswolf
04/14/24 11:42:05 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
Or that Iran is the #1 proponent of the sanctity of embassies and consulates.
No, divert your lying eyes from the fact they had a clown car of Islamic Revolutionary Guard members in a "civilian" building near the border with Israel!
Just remember it was still a consulate building on paper, no matter what it was being used for in reality, and that Iran values the sanctity of consulates and embassies more than any other nation in the history of Earth!
They would NEVER attack one themselves as long as you ignore history before 1981

Literally digging up an event from 1980 to justify Israel attacking the Iranian embassy in 2024 LMAO

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hockeybabe89
04/14/24 11:44:06 AM
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If you find yourself defending Iran, your life has taken a depressing turn

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McMarbles
04/14/24 11:45:45 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
https://twitter.com/CarymaRules/status/1779246864379826299

These people are absolute fucking lunatics
If youre cheering on Iran, you are not a progressive. Youre an anti-Semite.

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hitokoriX
04/14/24 11:48:23 AM
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McMarbles posted...
If youre cheering on Iran, you are not a progressive. Youre an anti-Semite.

Here -- I'll help you understand with something I said earlier!

People actively despise the state of Israel for their repeated violation of international law with seemingly no consequences. One major line is "Israel has the right to defend itself". Well if Israel does -- so does Iran. Also lets not walk out that tired "If you hate Israel you hate Jews" rhetoric because its demonstrably false.

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falayyou01
04/14/24 11:49:13 AM
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McMarbles posted...
If youre cheering on Iran, you are not a progressive. Youre an anti-Semite.
Saying Irans retaliatory actions are understandable and justified in light of Israels unlawful attack on its army on foreign soil in embassy territory doesnt equate to cheering Iran or being anti semitic. Stop trying to dumb down the argument or or make the ignorant masses kowtow to your position.

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hockeybabe89
04/14/24 11:50:13 AM
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hitokoriX posted...
Here -- I'll help you understand with something I said earlier!

People actively despise the state of Israel for their repeated violation of international law with seemingly no consequences. One major line is "Israel has the right to defend itself". Well if Israel does -- so does Iran. Also lets not walk out that tired "If you hate Israel you hate Jews" rhetoric because its demonstrably false.
If you don't hate both Israel and Iran, you are wrong. That is the only correct stance.

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legendary_zell
04/14/24 11:51:20 AM
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Shadow_Don posted...
Yea thats not why I pointed out that they fund hamas.

I pointed it out because your implication that Iran was fairly retaliating from an unprovoked attack.

I didn't imply that at all, you're inserting that reading yourself. States tend to retaliate against attacks, whether those attacks are justified or not, in order to save face, preserve sovereignty, deter further attacks etc. I said the retaliation is to be expected, not that it's moral or justified. As I pointed out, I called the Iranian state evil beforehand. And I said that people are happy because Israel is being treated as other countries would when they're glaringly typically treated as above meaningful reproach otherwise. None of that means or implies that Iran is some innocent victim that was attacked out of the blue.

You and stream are seeing red on this issue.


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McMarbles
04/14/24 11:54:16 AM
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hitokoriX posted...
Here -- I'll help you understand with something I said earlier!

People actively despise the state of Israel for their repeated violation of international law with seemingly no consequences. One major line is "Israel has the right to defend itself". Well if Israel does -- so does Iran. Also lets not walk out that tired "If you hate Israel you hate Jews" rhetoric because its demonstrably false.
No, but if youre willing to overlook - lets be honest, whitewash - Irans repeated violations of international law and abysmal human rights record because Israel Bad, then you definitely get a sideeye from me.

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Shadow_Don
04/14/24 11:54:58 AM
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legendary_zell posted...
And I said that people are happy because Israel is being treated as other countries would

People are happy some Jordanians got killed and a 7 year girl was put in the hospital.

What a bunch of sick freaks.

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Fenriswolf
04/14/24 11:56:05 AM
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McMarbles posted...
No, but if youre willing to overlook - lets be honest, whitewash - Irans repeated violations of international law and abysmal human rights record because Israel Bad, then you definitely get a sideeye from me.

Says the one overlooking the fact that Israel is currently committing a genocide in Gaza.

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hitokoriX
04/14/24 11:59:37 AM
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McMarbles posted...
No, but if youre willing to overlook - lets be honest, whitewash - Irans repeated violations of international law and abysmal human rights record because Israel Bad, then you definitely get a sideeye from me.

When did anybody do that? This is a very disingenuous reading of what I said. Nobody is cheering because they think Iran is awesome. They are cheering for Israel getting some kind of consequence, particularly given the contextual irony of the phrase "Israel has the right to defend itself".

Also you do recognize that criticism/dislike of the state of Israel is not antisemitic, right?

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Tyranthraxus
04/14/24 12:01:55 PM
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Fenriswolf posted...
Says the one overlooking the fact that Israel is currently committing a genocide in Gaza.

Tell me about the Uyghur genocide in China since you're such a staunch advocate for not overlooking genocide.

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Fenriswolf
04/14/24 12:02:59 PM
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Shadow_Don posted...
People are happy some Jordanians got killed and a 7 year girl was put in the hospital.

What a bunch of sick freaks.

Show me who in the crowd is directly calling for the deaths of Israeli civilians and I'd gladly condemn them.

If you're going to blame fringe pro-Iran protesters for the deaths caused by Iranian drones, then it's only fair to apply the same logic to pro-Israel protesters for the deaths caused by Israeli weaponry, which last time I checked is around 34k.

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McMarbles
04/14/24 12:04:39 PM
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hitokoriX posted...
When did anybody do that? This is a very disingenuous reading of what I said. Nobody is cheering because they think Iran is awesome. They are cheering for Israel getting some kind of consequence, particularly given the contextual irony of the phrase "Israel has the right to defend itself".

Also you do recognize that criticism/dislike of the state of Israel is not antisemitic, right?
Oh, absolutely. It gets brought up every time someones mask slips a bit.

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SpawnShadow
04/14/24 12:07:54 PM
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Meanwhile, I'm just sitting here lamenting the fact that Iran just metaphorically dumped an entire tanker truck's worth of gasoline on this total dumpster fire of a situation, and am now fully-expecting everything to go to shit geopolitically as a result.
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